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HELP CSGO PERFORMANCE
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Please read till the end, I've tried to summarise it the best way possible. Around 2 years ago, something happened to my game but I'm not sure exactly when it happened or what triggered it, I only just realised how bad my game performs when I watch old youtube clips from my channel. The game appears to run really smoothly and the mouse movement looks just as smooth. Example of the game performing well (Video from my youtube channel, 2016) youtube.com/watch?v=fjP7qharrVM Now, my game feels TERRIBLE. Nothing feels smooth, my mouse movement feels "off" and quite sluggish. Tracking feels really bad and jittery, making micro adjustments (especially fast ones) is difficult & innacurate. I get 200-300fps, it's frustrating seeing clips on youtube of people with 150 FPS who have such a smooth game. Example of the game performing badly (Video from my youtube channel) youtube.com/watch?v=o4bgKdxMV8w plays.tv/video/5ac64a8cc6943d2d19 You can tell the game doesn't look smooth, and my aim looks bad, extremely static. I use the same GTX 970 & i7 4790k paired with my 144hz monitor right now as in those clips. I'm sure the problem is to do with my PC. I've tried several different mousepads & mice before I realised the problem is with my PC. I've done fresh installs of windows with Windows, BIOS & GPU Drivers. I've configured CSGO with several commands, tweaked my Nvidia 3D Settings & it helps very slightly. I've also done lots of WIN10 tweaks such as disabling Xbox game DVR and much more. This doesn't happen just in CSGO, but it's just more noticeable in CS:GO. My mouse movement on the desktop feels jittery, like theres some sort of input lag or whatever, it's not smooth. I've been to LAN with my friends & their desktop & game feel great, I wasn't aware of the seriousness of this issue at the time so didn't take my time to copy anyones settings. If someone can fix this for me which works for me long term, I will gift someone up to $40 on Steam or something else. I really want to have fun playing the game again. Before someone says, its 100% not placebo and I can put my life on it. Thanks
2019-01-21 01:00
#1
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Panama xemzex 
Placebo /close
2019-01-21 01:02
its 100% a placebo
2019-01-21 01:02
#3
Sri Lanka Coman 
Fuck all this clueless kids who say it's placebo which is not. I've exactly the same problem and I tried almost everything like you. Can you please write which Windows Version and Build do you have? Mine is the latest 1809 (Build: 17763.253) if you have the same I think it has something to do with Windows Update because I tried everything expect to get back to an older windows update version.
2019-01-21 01:16
#6
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I’m off my PC now but I’m sure I do run the latest version of Windows. Will check tomorrow & post an update. How long you been having issues for?
2019-01-21 01:21
Since December 2018. Some say older NVIDIA driver helps but it didn't fix it for me. The same with changing some regedit commands. I even changed from Windows 10 Home to Pro.
2019-01-21 01:35
#17
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Strange, mines been since mid 2017. It’s cool to know I’m not the only one cause all my mates have no clue what tf I’m on about when I say my game feels this way
2019-01-21 01:35
Do you maybe use a keyboard where you can change the hz and ms?
2019-01-21 02:09
#26
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Not sure, I’ve only ever used a Corsair K70 and CMStorm QuickFire TK
2019-01-21 09:59
#29
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
This is the exact build as me!
2019-01-21 11:29
#30
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Do you use an ASRock mobo?
2019-01-21 13:23
#32
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I FIXED IT!!!! Can I PM You?
2019-01-22 19:57
Nice man! Yes I would appreciate it and I think you should also write it in this thread as fixed and how you fixed it.
2019-01-22 20:02
#37
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I don't know how I didn't do this before but whatever. I ran MSI Afterburner to monitor my CPU cores when ingame (I have i7 4790k, 4 cores with hyperthreading so technically 8) I went into a DM and my CPU 1 was under like 80% load and the rest were less than 10 which is really strange. Now for the FIX. Go to the start menu, type msconfig From here, go to boot -> advanced options For me, it said 1 underneath processors here. I ticked it, and selected 8 processors. You should select how many you have. Apply, you will have to restart your PC for changes to take place. Hopefully its fixed for you! :)
2019-01-22 20:05
Thanks for sharing. Did it really 100% fix it? If yes glad it worked. Back then I saw this somewhere as a "fix" advice and a person wrote "By default, all Processors/Cores are enabled."
2019-01-22 20:17
#40
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Yeah, it feels just like my friends PC did at LAN and hes pretty sick
2019-01-22 20:17
Okay bro I'll test it tomorrow.
2019-01-24 19:23
#46
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Looking back it didn't quite fix it, I'm not sure what happened tbf. Did you try it and notice a difference?
2019-01-30 18:53
Hey, good that you replied to me because I couldn't find the thread anymore :D No sadly no difference for me. This is getting so annoying...
2019-01-30 22:39
#48
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I'm reverting to old builds of windows 10 to try find fix
2019-01-31 18:34
I tried to install older NVIDIA drivers since some say it helps but it made it worse. I think it has something to do with Windows build if not then I don't know anymore tbh.
2019-01-31 19:08
#50
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
its so fucking stupid, if you clicked on the videos on the original post u can see in my first clip its so fucking smooth and this was when i was noob
2019-01-31 19:08
It's a really shit problem. Hopefully it has something to do with Windows build otherwise I guess we will never find a fix :D
2019-01-31 19:11
#52
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I dont even play cs much anymore so I let my brother play fortnite on my PC and ik his aim would be 5x better if i could fix this
2019-01-31 19:14
Which mouse do you use?
2019-01-31 20:46
#56
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
atm im using razer deathadder elite for 2nd time, ive tried like 10 mice.
2019-01-31 20:57
#57
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
what hdd/ssd u use?
2019-01-31 20:57
Samsung and Crucial SSD. after I uninstall my mouse program (SteelSeries engine) my mouse/game feels much better. And another question, do you also play 4:3 Stretched?
2019-01-31 22:23
#61
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Yes, I play 1024 768 stretched. I've tried lots of resolutions. Just a question, you notice slight mouse stutters on windows desktop too right?
2019-02-01 20:37
Sometimes. Fuck this shit removing the engine made much better but not smooth enough like it should be.
2019-02-02 00:14
#64
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Have you tried buying new SSD or running game on a fresh drive?
2019-02-02 20:34
I bought a new one so it's 100% not the SSD. Do you have SuperFetch (SysMain) enabled under services? Many say people who has SSD should disable the service and people who has HDD should enable it. I installed Windows 10 new but this time without login into my Microsoft account which means every setting will be default. I'll let Windows Update install the drivers and test if there is a difference if not I'll go step by step to install the newest drivers and if this also don't work I'll disable Superfetch and some other things and if this all still don't fix my problem then I've sadly to deal with it.
2019-02-02 22:13
and I forgot to write you the most important thing: 1) Disable fullscreen optimizations for csgo.exe. Right-click on the csgo.exe file which you can find in steam/steamapps/common/csgo folder> go to Properties. Check the "Disable fullscreen optimizations" box> hit Apply. this is the most helpful fix for me so far where I can see a difference.
2019-02-02 22:33
Another thing which could help you. Did you check HPET in BIOS and Windows? Make sure you have the same value in Windows and BIOS. For example: Disabled in Windows, Disabled in BIOS would be right but if it's like this: Enabled in Windows, Disabled in BIOS it can cause problems. Let me know if anything worked for you.
2019-02-05 18:37
#69
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I disabled it in windows, made my frames more stable. Mouse still feels shit though. Just to ask, can you feel the mouse stuttering slightly when moving your mouse across the windows desktop? Like just a little bit, something other people wouldn't notice
2019-02-05 20:40
#71
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Silly question, but have you tried switching DVI cable or buying HDMI cable (120hz max on HDMI) cause I haven't tried this
2019-02-05 23:50
#72
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
This has helped a bit, it makes the game playable but still doesnt feel natural Secondly (Works with XP, Vista and Windows 7) 1. Click Start button 2. Select Run 3. Type 'regedit' in the open textbox 4. Open the tree 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER', select control panel, then select mouse 5. Right clicking, modify the SmoothMouseXCurve and SmoothMouseYCurve hexidecimal values to the following: SmoothMouseXCurve: 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00 00,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00 00,40,01,00,00,00,00,00 00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00 00,00,05,00,00,00,00,00 SmoothMouseYCurve: 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00 66,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00 cd,4c,05,00,00,00,00,00 a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00 38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00 If done correctly, you will notice you are holding a more responsive mouse (if you have been playing with mouse acceleration turned on for a long time, be warned: it does take some getting used to.)
2019-02-06 15:12
I finally fixed my problem hopefully it will help you too. I downloaded and installed every latest drivers even Microsoft Visual C++ from 2008-2017. After this it felt better but it wasn't the real fix for me so something was still missing and then I realized out of nowhere that I didn't upgrade the Firmware of my SSD. So the real fix for me was to upgrade the Firmware of my SSD. + I also did the 2nd tweak here: reddit.com/r/csgo/comments/7qgn0x/fix_fo.. so if you didn't do both steps do it but if you have still the same problem then you should also try the 1st tweak which helped many people.
2019-02-09 18:05
Did u try install older drivers for gpu ? for example nvidia 347.88 or something which is at least 2 years old. This helps me a lot. You can try.
2019-01-21 01:18
obv its not good for other games, but i still use old drivers for csgo since i didnt play any other games.
2019-01-21 01:20
#7
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Where can I download old drivers?
2019-01-21 01:21
#33
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I fixed it!! Can I PM You?
2019-01-22 19:57
Glad to hear that, yes you can, but why ? :D
2019-01-22 20:00
#38
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I don't know how I didn't do this before but whatever. I ran MSI Afterburner to monitor my CPU cores when ingame (I have i7 4790k, 4 cores with hyperthreading so technically 8) I went into a DM and my CPU 1 was under like 80% load and the rest were less than 10 which is really strange. Now for the FIX. Go to the start menu, type msconfig From here, go to boot -> advanced options For me, it said 1 underneath processors here. I ticked it, and selected 8 processors. You should select how many you have. Apply, you will have to restart your PC for changes to take place. Hopefully its fixed for you! :)
2019-01-22 20:05
#12
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Ukraine rthr|arturka 
+1
2019-01-21 01:26
#8
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Bump, paying someone for a Fix like I said in my post!!
2019-01-21 01:22
uninstall and reinstall paypal is : maxpjax@gmail.com
2019-01-21 01:24
Nvidia drivers are to blame, they are shit. You need to do a clean DDU uninstall, and download 378 or older drivers, not only you will get rid of the stutter, but your fps will increase. Also be sure to update bios, and use default xmp profiles on RAM in bios settings, ram degrades over time and some timings will not be stable, so you need to increase ram voltage a bit. Also make sure that you use balanced power mode instead of high performance, and that you remove -high and -thread from launch options. Make sure that your overclock is stable with 30 mins of prime 95, make sure that you have enough voltage, or lower the clocks if temps are too high in prime95. Try to swap ram slots as well.
2019-01-21 01:27
#15
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Good idea, also haven’t tried anything to do with memory. Will do this tomorrow
2019-01-21 01:32
Good luck, troubleshooting is a pain in the ass sometimes, but mostly people have really bad overclocks/cooling or they have no idea how to optimize the game... On the other hand cs runs as crap since panorma update on many rigs... I have 2 rigs, one with i7 7700+gtx 1070tiwhich has super high fps but stutters, and Ryzen 7 2700x + vega 56 which has less fps, but it's smooth as butter in all games, flawless experience.
2019-01-21 01:39
#20
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I don’t overclock which makes things a bit easier. I’ve had the same 2x8gb DDR3 2400mhz since I got my PC, will try switching slots and borrow a stick or two off my mate to check
2019-01-21 01:45
why you talk about the balanced power mode ? all videos and people say to put on highperformance ( you talk about the option in the driver nvidia 3d panel ? )
2019-01-21 01:44
No, about windows power management, because high perf might come with stutter because of the bad overclocks or unstable temperatures cuz of bad cooling
2019-01-21 09:57
#34
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I fixed it bro!! so fucking happy
2019-01-22 19:58
Glad to hear that, hope ive helped a bit :D What was the solution?
2019-01-22 22:05
#43
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
For some reason, only 1 core out of my 8 was being put to use I monitored the game with MSI Afterburner and core 1 was being used like 70-80% and the rest beneath 10, so I looked it up online for a fix. im just gonna copy paste what I said to others below __________________________________________________________ I don't know how I didn't do this before but whatever. I ran MSI Afterburner to monitor my CPU cores when ingame (I have i7 4790k, 4 cores with hyperthreading so technically 8) I went into a DM and my CPU 1 was under like 80% load and the rest were less than 10 which is really strange. Now for the FIX. Go to the start menu, type msconfig From here, go to boot -> advanced options For me, it said 1 underneath processors here. I ticked it, and selected 8 processors. You should select how many you have. Apply, you will have to restart your PC for changes to take place.
2019-01-22 22:19
#44
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I was still getting the same frames which is fucked
2019-01-22 22:19
Have you moved from windows 7/8 to 10? Shit os = shit performance
2019-01-21 01:31
#16
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I use 10.1 or whatever at the moment, was thinking of going back to w7 but it’s unnecessary despite all the shit which w10 comes with like xbox game dvr etc
2019-01-21 01:33
>performance goes to shit when you move to 10 >going back to 7 is unnecessary ???
2019-01-21 03:22
#27
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
I’ve heard of a couple ppl who have the same issue on windows 7, so going back to Windows 7 will be last resort cause I don’t wanna switch and have the same issue
2019-01-21 10:01
Did you have these issues on windows 7? If you're prepared to reinstall your os you should be prepared to install a better one
2019-01-21 10:05
#21
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
Install word
2019-01-21 01:47
Use maximum rate
2019-01-21 03:09
#31
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
bump
2019-01-21 18:34
stop using word.exe
2019-01-22 20:18
#53
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
bumperoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019-01-31 19:35
in windows processes delete explorer.exe
2019-01-31 20:05
have the same prob man, sometimes in cs my mouse working differently, idk how to say, lagging or smth like that/
2019-01-31 21:29
#70
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
Do you feel this in desktop too?
2019-02-05 20:41
On what ur cs is isntalled, ssd or hdd?
2019-01-31 21:31
#62
milk | 
United Kingdom sam_mooya 
500gb sandisk ssd
2019-02-01 20:37
did you try windows 7 yet
2019-02-02 20:39
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