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Kazakhstan abcdefghijklmnope 
The most impressive thing about device for me personally is his insane role change. People tend to forget that he has been an equal 'flashy' and high-paced player like simple in the past when his primary role has been the rifler where he sometimes picked up the 2nd awp next to fetish. He made insane HS-Taps with ANY gun while being a great fast paced awp, too, similar to simple (when he was a main rifler and 2nd awp). They had similar roles and were basically the same but took completely other paths in their evolution. When device played a more solo flashy role he was putting insane numbers on the board like simple now, like old guardian or like kennys used to. But the results were mixed. Always close and intense games that could've went either way, similar to Navi now. With ASTRALIS they realised you need an unit of 5 players in CS rather than only one flashy. Being flashy is very risky, as it also can't work out for your team. (Economy can get wrecked, your own positioning on the map can suffer from it when the flashy player dies, the rest 4 of a team have to stay passive to let their star player shine and get much worse - check flamie in navi vs him in past teams, often mentality problems within the team - old ldlc when they traded shox/smithzz for kennys and apex - Still in 2019 shox doesn't realise what he's doing wrong, it's insane.) Also you literally can't be a flashy player for many years in a row, you'll get wrist pain sooner or later. So what did Device and Simple do? -Device stopped being flashy and a main carry. He realised CS is a team game. So he stopped focussing on his flashiness and focussed on completely other things ingame what the average 0 iq viewers calls 'boring' - playing INTELLIGENT and with as less risks as possible. He focussed on positioning, utility, trading, communication, TEAMWORK, as they go as a UNIT by 5. When doing that your team has a lot more variaty of doing things rather to just rely on a main star player and being able to push somewhere or don't. And what happened? They turned into the best team in CS right now, simila to like NiP has been in the early years. IMAGINE this game would be reality, would you rather rely on one guy or go as a well balanced unit? Another good comparison: CPU in video games. Idk eg go by the best CPU in FIFA (i think it is called ultimate). You feel like the CPU isn't even that good/ plays weird. -> You start to push and let your feelings influence your gameplay and get destroyed 6:0. That's the psychology/mental coach part of Astralis. They make them not get influenced by natural feelings ingame - A CPU doenst have feelings - They play the way as a unit to beat their opponment. -Simple meanwhile focussed on being the best solo player. Playing FPL (youre literally playing with different ppl all the time- youre playing this game solo.) etc helps you getting better yeah, but as a player and not as a team. The results of the team he's playing will always stay wildly mixed dependig on his game rather on the teamplay. Also remember his early struggles, his very first games as a Main Awper for Navi when guardian left: He tried to play like Device rn, but failed miserably. He was really slow and passive, just watch the demos somewhere. And people expected him to be flashy. As hes a person that gets influenced by other opinions really fast or cares about it (na/taco - simple beef) he sticked to being flashy back again where he developed to the best flashy player now. And dont get me wrong, i dont hate on simple neither do i dislike him, i'm a fan of both players as they're both insanely skilled. I'm just looking at the gameplay development of CS in general, what's making teams win tournaments and be good. Having a flashy player may work out and can let you win tournaments ofc, but not consistenly. What makes you be the best is a BALANCED (the key!) good and unique teamplay like NIP, FNATIC, LDLC, SK and now ASTRALIS prove. Too many teams do not get this, like Navi. They think it's good to sacrifice 4 or 3 (Now as they use electronic as a 2nd star) players to have 1,2 insane players rather than having a unit of good 5. The same goes for the whole french scene - nbk or shox won't ever understand this and it's sad. that's why i also hope someday to see happy leading a top 5 team again while the others keep on whining towards him. Even mixwell learned french to help them. Ik i'm drifting away from the main topic but imagine an unit of happy, mixwell, kennys, zywoo, kio. that would be such an insane and well balanced top 5 contender for sure. meanwhile we got 2 tier 5 french teams bc both shox anf nbk ruined their scene. CS 2019 is gonna be great. Astralis, Liquid and Mibr will fight for the No. 1 that year. Ence will be a top 10 team. tl,dr: read it cow
2019-01-22 15:05
#1
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Belgium FanOfG2 
G2 will be top 1
2019-01-22 15:07
if they kick everyone but kennys and pick up happy, mixwell, kio, zywoo yes
2019-01-22 16:27
#71
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Belgium FanOfG2 
Happy AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
2019-01-22 16:39
happy > french scene as mentioned/explained in my post
2019-01-22 20:13
happy> whole g2
2019-01-22 20:15
why mixwell in french
2019-01-22 20:16
why Adren if faze
2019-01-22 20:32
#2
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Netherlands K1nexCS 
tl;dr please
2019-01-22 15:07
too lazy sorry
2019-01-22 15:17
Device is playing a team game for winning S1mple is playing with "flashy" plays for the public
2019-01-22 15:25
nah no for the public, he thinks its the way to have a great team. but he needs to mature and realize it isnt
2019-01-22 15:29
#60
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Argentina themazi 
a nonamer trying to explain the best player in the world how to play the game lmao nt tho
2019-01-22 16:17
#64
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Simple was no-namer 2 years ago, this guy might become top1 analyst in 1 year. What is your point besides having low iq?
2019-01-22 16:21
#66
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Argentina themazi 
s1mple was ranked #4 in 2016 and #8 in 2017 "s1mple nas no-namer 2 years ago" get your facts straight, fucking retard
2019-01-22 16:25
#70
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Again, what is your point besides being low iq retard?
2019-01-22 16:34
what are u on about, ur the low iq retard he caught u with ur pants down u spewed some bullshit "s1mple was a nonamer 2 years ago" s1mple was fucking #4th 2 years ago, thats not a no namer is elec a no namer? is rain a no namer?
2019-01-22 20:30
#95
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Flag checks out.
2019-01-22 20:31
ok china talk about flag when ur dumbass loses an arguement
2019-01-22 20:32
#98
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
"a nonamer trying to explain the best player in the world how to play the game lmao" That's a shit argument if youll ask me, i can give you 200 like this per hour.
2019-01-22 20:33
im not talking about that im talking about u saying "Simple was no-namer 2 years ago" thats bullshit
2019-01-22 20:34
#100
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Oh shit, 1 year more, 1 year less, this low iq idiot jsut hang on to words, cuz his arguments has no sense.
2019-01-22 20:36
what are u talking about right now u said what u said u were horribly wrong we pointed it out stop pitting the blame on others
2019-01-22 20:36
#102
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Flag checks out.
2019-01-22 20:37
When you have edward and zeus you have to be flashy and well it worked, s1mple got 1st and deserved it
2019-01-22 15:30
'well it worked' for what? for losing all tournaments while being nominated #1 on a website somewhere?
2019-01-22 20:14
You really think that if s1mple would sacrifice himself more and play a different gamestyle, they would win more tournaments? Yeah if so they would have probably done that already cuz s1mple would for shure be down for ,if it would work out, because he stated numerous times that he would rather win than being the best player in the world or the mvp but you HLTV IQ 200 user knows everything about the game. And dont you think that some analysts wouldnt have suggested Navi that they should play like this if it would work out for `em?!
2019-01-22 20:27
Reported for calling me cow 😎
2019-01-22 15:07
gimme your milk
2019-01-22 15:17
why is my gaydar pinging on you
2019-01-22 15:46
#4
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Libya Eruptor 
Bullshit /close
2019-01-22 15:10
#7
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Poland wiktorex 
+1
2019-01-22 15:10
#5
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Poland wiktorex 
yeah for sure bullshit device was never like s1mple with awp or rifle but he is still great player just diffrent style of playing
2019-01-22 15:10
check device with fetish demos years ago newfag
2019-01-22 15:11
#11
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Poland wiktorex 
man i follow scene from 2015
2019-01-22 15:12
u didnt even have PC back in 2015 lol dumb kid
2019-01-22 15:13
#16
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Poland wiktorex 
what?
2019-01-22 15:13
You do realize this has been in 2013/14/15 right?
2019-01-22 15:31
#42
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Poland wiktorex 
do you think i didn't watch player highlights?
2019-01-22 15:33
player highlight =/ watching every fucking game of dignitas and such
2019-01-22 15:42
#65
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Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Dumb poorlack spotted
2019-01-22 16:24
#17
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Poland wiktorex 
newfag lol
2019-01-22 15:14
#40
2019-01-22 15:31
#43
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Poland wiktorex 
man i can watch it again and device was never like s1mple hah
2019-01-22 15:34
#6
s1mple | 
Czech Republic JeSuS_ 
"and Mibr will fight for the No. 1 that year" ok this definetly killed me xDDDDDDDDDD
2019-01-22 15:10
#10
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Poland wiktorex 
i mean every1 will fight for that spot :D
2019-01-22 15:11
mibr with the brauilian lineup -> good teamplay.
2019-01-22 15:12
#15
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Poland wiktorex 
better comunication for sure
2019-01-22 15:13
#25
ZywOo | 
Poland MBT_yt 
Vp will fight for n1 spot as well
2019-01-22 15:19
it is the truth. kid. laugh is free.
2019-01-22 15:55
this is what makes device the most professional cs player in general. in year 2018 in terms of raw skill, simple outshined everyone. but instead of celebrating having such insanely good players people fight against each other. this is just a rankig, nothing more. and it says nothing more than astralis being the best team meanwhile navi sacrifing their players to have 2 insane ones. omg someone is on #1 and someone on #2. being in the top20 list can make players proud in general and that's it. stop spreading unnecessary negativity everywhere holy fck
2019-01-22 15:13
#13
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Poland wiktorex 
sacrifing ... are you kidding me ? navi are 2nd best team after astralis so
2019-01-22 15:13
yeah bc of their main carries simple and electronic. their roles are created to let the whole team rely on 2 guys (risky, can work out sometimes tho and did so many times they placed #2) instead of using 5 as a unit without doing risks.
2019-01-22 15:16
#23
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Poland wiktorex 
while electronic and s1mple are best entry fraggers in team
2019-01-22 15:18
dude im literally saying the whole team is playing so they can shine and carry the team not the roles are wrong but the way they play, they let electronic and simple be star players and let them do their own while the other have to stay passive somewhere else astralis doesnt let anyone play their 'own game' they play together thats why at the end of a match for astralis the scoreboard will be: anyone 22k 11d anyone 21k 12d anyone 20k 14d anyone 23k 17d anyone 21k 12d WHILE THE SCOREBOARD FOR NAVI WILL BE: simple 38k 13d electronic 29k 16d anyone 10k 100d anyone 9k 100d anyone 1k 100d REMOVE THE STAR PLAYER ROLE AND FOCUS ON BALANCED TEAMPLAY AND HAVE AN EQUAL SCOREBOARD -> Good Teamwork
2019-01-22 15:39
yea thats why 99% of the times s1mple play with a deagle on force buy and edward with zeus have ak, ofc they only play for stars LUL
2019-01-22 15:47
#74
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United Kingdom rickY180 
This is because the Deag requires aim and the AK doesn't. Simple can kill 5 players with 5 bullets with the deagle. Edward and Zeus couldn't kill 1 player with 30 bullets!
2019-01-22 17:14
why then s1mple even buy that shity weapon ak? why not playing with deagle 24/7???? maybe cuz s1mple with ak > s1mple with deagle, but zeus with ak >>>>>>>>>>>>>> zeus with deagle and he sacrefice for the team more then d2vice
2019-01-22 17:40
#107
shox | 
United Kingdom rickY180 
Because it's an economy game. If you're struggling for money in a force buy then you make do with what you've got. I'm sure S1mple will be asked if he wants a drop and he will say that he's fine with the Deagle. Obv if you have the money, you buy the rifle because it's easier to kill with it. Even S1mple will miss a Deagle shot occasionally.
2019-01-23 09:34
so statement that all team play for s1mple is false, he play way more for the team then ecovice
2019-01-23 14:41
#19
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Poland wiktorex 
hah focusing on being the best in the world ---> navi 2nd best team in the world
2019-01-22 15:15
navi is trash you dumb fanboy, they get fucked to death by literally every top5 team every time they meet in finals. can only beat vp and nrg
2019-01-22 15:17
#24
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Poland wiktorex 
ok i see you don't even follow cs go back to fortnite 0/8
2019-01-22 15:18
probably thats why you cant show me a final where they beat a tier1 team lol dumb scum i wish stepan bandera had killed your family and dog in front of you
2019-01-22 15:19
#27
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Poland wiktorex 
reported you are sick i hope you will be better human in the future cuz they many times beat tier 1 temas in 1/4 and 1/2 while your tier1 teams also lose to some underdogs hah cya
2019-01-22 15:22
#29
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Poland wiktorex 
2019-01-22 15:23
faze has won 3x more tier1 tournaments
2019-01-22 15:24
#35
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Poland wiktorex 
and much more shit places than navi in 2k18 hltv.org/stats/teams/events/6667/FaZe
2019-01-22 15:26
thats because navi has 2x less maps played against top5 teams lol
2019-01-22 15:28
belo horizone, epicentr - tier 1 TOP KEK BLast >>>>>> belo horizone without astralis in it sltv = epicentr also cologne >> iem cuz half of the team in it was some ausies noobs and no navi that would rape faze
2019-01-22 15:51
faze won finals against: astralis, mouz, navi (top1, top4, top2 at that time) navi won finals against: VP (AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA), NRG (LOL), BIG (LOL), and NiP (kek) no matter how you look at it fazes wins are much more prestigious
2019-01-22 16:30
it's really metter who you win a finals? so france doesnt deserve wc cuz they beat choratia not brazil argentina england belgium or germany? real is shit cuz they win UCL over liverpool not barca bayern juve or mc?? if all teams on the events and team won it it's mean they the best, it's navi fail that they beat astralis in semis not in final? or faze choke in semis, or why liquid cant beat NRG OMEGALUL, or astralis get raped by nip and navi in there home country OMEGALUL Navi >>>>>>>>>> faze this year, all events they won was better also more finals and better results overall
2019-01-22 16:34
'it's navi fail that they beat astralis in semis not in final?' lmfao navi got fucked to death with their families and children by astralis in EVERY final they played. the only reason they beat them in those semis was because this 30 yo 1 foot in grave inbred son of a dog danylo zeus played the game of his life. otherwise astralis wouldve fucked his wife in front of him (like they did in every final) ' astralis get raped by nip and navi in there home country OMEGALUL' thats funny because navi got humiliated on starladder and epicetner in front of all those bandera nazi kids :D got humiliated so hard that s1mple even wanted to leave this trashass team and join mibr.
2019-01-22 18:29
#72
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Yeah, sorry Faze were too busy losing to BUG.
2019-01-22 16:56
yea, Na'Vi won Cologne against BUG because FaZe lost to BUG before that and couldn't reach final OMEGALUL xddd
2019-01-23 15:06
dude i think you dont understand that i like both of the teams. navi is a good team but doesnt understand how to be the best. and why? Because of their roles! (astralis has been in the same situation) they literally let simple and now also electronic carry them while the other 3 have to let them do their game instead of playing like astralis where they could all have nearly the same inpact. (i guess you dont understand, so easier for you: ASTRALIS = NO STARS BUT 5 TEAM. NAVI = 2 STARS 0 TEAM. ok? Now -> if NAVI = NO STARS but 5 TEAM they could be the best team in the world.) it's not balanced. and they could do MUCH better. They could be the best team in the world if they would understand the game as astralis does.
2019-01-22 15:24
#33
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Poland wiktorex 
man ever1 wants to play like astralis but navi have diffrent style and i think its best for them imo
2019-01-22 15:25
yeah best when you have two bots and an egoistic narcissist who statpads by baiting those two. electronic is the real deal. s1mple is just a crowd please and a selfish one at that. doesnt care if NaVi goes to shit. he'll just move on to another team and do the same shit he does right now.
2019-01-22 15:38
thank you :)
2019-01-22 15:40
#54
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Well, we have found two retarded and clueless kids who are still triggered that s1mple is top1 lmao
2019-01-22 15:59
how am i triggered when disliking noone of the players?
2019-01-22 16:20
Lol. Your reading comprehension isn't that great. Nowhere did I mention discomfort over s1mple being #1. He deserved it. I was merely pointing out his play style in a much more brute manner. It's my pov. The only one that got triggered by my statement sir is you. You shouldn't argue with strangers on the internet if your tinfoil brain can't comprehend what I meant.
2019-01-22 21:11
#56
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Loads of fcking BS and even you deluded Astralis fangay know it :)
2019-01-22 16:00
WTF how am i supposed to read all this men)))
2019-01-22 15:24
😎 Reply needs to have actual content 😎
2019-01-22 15:25
#32
2019-01-22 15:26
thanks
2019-01-22 15:44
#57
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty flawed opinion.
2019-01-22 16:01
Chill dude 😎
2019-01-22 16:02
what about yours tho
2019-01-22 16:21
tldr
2019-01-22 15:48
#32
2019-01-22 16:00
aight
2019-01-22 16:14
#61
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
We actually have some1 will brain over here.
2019-01-22 16:20
thank you
2019-01-22 20:17
#73
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Sweden leetajz 
(Now as they use electronic as a 2nd star) players to have 1,2 insane players rather than having a unit of good 5. This is why you really can't compare Astralis and Navi, simply because Navi doesn't have a good unit of 5 players. They're playing with 2-3 bots. That's why their role differs. Navi would be even more inefficient if Simple stopped playing the way he does right now to be more of a 'teamplayer' as you called it. And imo the reason why simple is #1 is because i'd say in overall he's more skilled.
2019-01-22 17:06
#75
Brollan | 
World mbata 
Stopped reading before starting.... Get a life plz
2019-01-22 17:16
hmmm mbata >2162 comments >get a life plz
2019-01-22 20:18
#105
Brollan | 
World mbata 
2162 comment in years > 36362828273737 words in 1 comment
2019-01-22 22:09
i think wasting time one time > being active in a forum and consistently wasting time with 2162 comments
2019-01-23 07:46
tl,dr
2019-01-22 17:41
a good player stops being flashy when he realize he cant get away with it anymore. i think thats the biggest differance. same happend to Jw and olofmeister. s1mple still get away with his flashy plays, JW still does it to an extent though but he used to be all about that shit
2019-01-22 18:31
man i miss flashy fnatic they just yolo'd the hell out of teams
2019-01-22 20:20
there has never been anything like it. the confident was unmatched
2019-01-22 21:03
#80
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Poland Gapikx 
If ence can land sunny that team will become 10x more epic than it already is; also North 2019 major champions ;) (in my heart)
2019-01-22 18:34
I'd love to see ence on top
2019-01-22 20:23
nothing important to read here. Basic s1MplE iS nOt A tEaM player thread.
2019-01-22 20:18
nothing important to read here. Basic s1MplE fAnBOy AnD dEViCe bAsHeR reponse. (eventhough i like them both)
2019-01-22 20:23
Basic I Am the GOD of Cs aNd I knOw fOr evEry TeaM whats beST for ThEM HLTV User. Ah also #92
2019-01-22 20:30
tl;dr naf top1 2019
2019-01-22 20:23
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