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Now that i got your attention,
**THIS TOPIC IS FOR WHO REALLY WANTS TO DISCUS AND LEARN ABOUT THE ISSUE OF
(GAZA-Hamas- IDF issue)
Following to "israel, why?"
I don't really think that you gonna watch/read it at all, and a admin will probably delete my topic like always when it's something positive about Israel and trying to explain their situation for retards who just knows details from news at EU.
I'm posting a video and I will break it down for you, just for things that happened this year.
Hamas and their news org like to use the thing I call "Weak Card".
Weak Card explained in this hated video (Obviously):
youtube.com/watch?v=no__OfEsh4o
And I will give you little tiny examples to this video from things that happen recently,
paper planes can be referred to;
jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Shin-Bet..
SHIN BET HEAD: ISRAEL THWARTED 480 PALESTINIAN TERROR ATTACKS IN PAST YEAR, Argaman also referred to 590 potential lone wolf attacks that the Shin Bet had prevented.
*Not including all the successful terror attacks that actually killed Israelis during this year.
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5398776,0..
More than 300 rockets fired from Gaza, IAF strikes 70 targets
Palestinian militants in Gaza fired over 300 rockets and mortar shells into southern Israel within a span of five hours Monday evening in the most intense hostilities in the region since 2014.
timesofisrael.com/hamas-demands-15-milli..
jpost.com/Breaking-News/Report-Qatar-wil..
More Ammo for Hamas( NOT GAZA'S CIVILIANS ) for terror attacks.
At one night, more than 300 rockets, And obv they asking for a ceasefire after we strike them.
0:56 refers to
nypost.com/2015/05/02/un-report-outlines..
israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/18..
(Video inside the article above: youtube.com/watch?v=NMiG9JD2OxM )
youtube.com/watch?v=7BWPhC3-AGU
bridgesforpeace.com/2018/05/captured-gaz..
(“They’re (Hamas) pushing civilians, women, children into the line of fire with the hope of creating casualties,” he explained. “We try to minimize casualties. They’re trying to incur casualties in order to put pressure on Israel, which is horrible.” )
1:10 refers to;
timesofisrael.com/israel-responds-with-a..
"Two targets in Gaza City were hit by the Israeli strikes and no one was harmed, security sources in Gaza said.
Hamas is believed to have a large network of tunnels crisscrossing the Strip and close to, or under, the frontier with Israel."
rt.com/news/447631-israel-helicopter-ham..
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5373020,0..
basically, attacking sands and empty useless hamas "bases".
Than everyone is trying to get the cute terrorists of hamas to chill,
jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israel-H..
hamodia.com/2019/01/11/report-egypt-prom..
"In recent weeks, Abbas’s insignificance has been accentuated by efforts made by Egypt, Qatar and the UN to reach a truce between Hamas and Israel."
than it's just repeat it self everytime,
hamodia.com/2019/01/15/hamas-issues-fina..
middleeastmonitor.com/20190117-hamas-fat..
I hope that atleast one of you here with a brain will actually read it, and try to discuss.
And the news media ofc just enjoying,
youtube.com/watch?v=k7BDa8hm0G8
youtube.com/watch?v=vy_z2iru_sw
youtube.com/watch?v=UizG2lT8fS4
bye.
yea who cares about 3rd world and religion
israel is palestine for me
nt australia Kappa
turkey is 100% turks
arabs different race
findladrussia
What? Turk brain to start insulting the one who is with you
we have no friend
It's as simple as Israel are killing innocent Palsestinians and taking their land.
20-25% of Israel population are Muslims.
5% of Sweden population are Muslims.
0/8
He is really dumb for saying that..but anyways,
I think that he refers to the mass refugees that came for Germany, France and other EU countries, that was great that EU opened their hands and accepted so many refugees to their countries.
But in every good thing there is a bad thing too, because we are humans, we can't see people enjoy their lives, so Isis and other terrorist org decided to pretend as refugees and recruit or do terrorist attacks, and unfortunately, People like to remember the bad things.
or maybe it's because muslims iq are around 80-85 which is accounted for violent behavior and they have a completely different culture from europe which is in no way compatible and will only generate hatred in the long run?
Sadly, no. As soon as a country vaunts it is a "multicultural hub" there is no longer a need to assimilate, and adopt the cultural norms of the society they have fled/immigrated to. Because to not allow a person to be who they were, prior to entering your country is racist, fascist and just wrong. Don't worry about learning the language. Dont worry about seeking employment. Just keep having children and slowly take that country over. Leftards appreciate it.
mad cuz bad?
Ok
Ok
And you can share it here man, that's the point.
As a guy who served at the IDF for 3 years, I think that I can discuss on this subject :)
let's say more than anyone here, that actually lives in nowhere and reading bs.
Youtube isn't less doubtful than your resources unless you were here at the area.
But share with me the war crimes, *usually* there is a reason behind every attack that IDF did, unlike hamas or any other terror group that founded by Qatar in Gaza :)
"As a guy who served at the IDF for 3 years"
twitter.com/hosen2israel/status/10869881..
Even the former head of your army admits it
"we set Gaza back to the Stone Age"
And he's even proud about it.
There are a few more months of elections for prime minister, a move that he has simply tried to recruit more votes from the right wing, all the reactions in the video are from Israelis against the TWEET he did.
In fact there is nothing wrong with the publicity he made here, the man was a military man, he shows no violence towards innocent civilians. Israel is fighting a terrorist organization, and all the targets it has presented in this video are bases and locations from which rockets were launched into the State of Israel.
jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/IDF-1000..
happy to help.
when you think you know more than the people living the reality i think its safe to say you're delusional
I hope I never catch you commenting on anything non-related to Israel mate, that would make you delusional.
Do you know what else is delusional? Thinking that someone that was in the IDF would be unbiased about the conflict.
Do you know what else is delusional? Believing that this is how every Jew thinks, read the comments at that tweet and you will see that not every Jew is a Zionist.
Thinking that someone that was in the IDF would be unbiased about the conflict.
Actually I don't really know where I stand, I come from a home with a center left wing opinions.
But it doesn't matter, I answer your responds with facts.
Do you know what else is delusional? Believing that this is how every Jew thinks, read the comments at that tweet and you will see that not every Jew is a Zionist.
Ohh I can tell you that I would prefer to live in Canada or any isolated hole. I would be happy disconnecting myself from the mainstream.
But I do believe that you can't talk unless you been there in West bank or Israel for atleast 2 years, and atleast during 1 war.
If your opinions won't change from that perspective.....
So what you’re saying make so much sense as to say that it’s forbidden to talk about ww2 because none of us even lived back then?
Don’t get me wrong I don’t wannna say that Israel is the reason for this conflict, I think it’s delusional to make one of either israel or Palestine the „bad guy“, but what can I say, as a german it seems like I can’t even criticize Israel without being called a nazi even tho I’m in the 2.-3. generation after the war and my grandma was a little child at that time. So I’ma get out of here and leave you guys alone
If you really want to change something then Israel and Palestine have to sit together and come to peaceful conclusion both can live with
You see? because of your last sentence I wrote what I wrote,
"have to sit together and come to peaceful conclusion both can live with"
It's so stupid to say it dude.. I don't judge you but.. cmmon :).
the man I responded to said;
"Nah, I don't have anything else to say with a guy that sees nothing wrong with that
I bet you don't see anything wrong with Netanyahu celebrating the apartheid with the10yearchallenge, it's all good fun yeah :^)"
the guy is giving me examples and trying to discuss with me with twitter/ youtube videos.
If you lived there ofc that you will know the situation way better than a guy who lived at germany, right?
that's what I meant, maybe I haven't explained myself well there.
He didn't really talked about the WW2, he talked about things that happened recently and criticize from the Sweet EU.
And about people calling you nazi.. they are ignorant, BUT
There is growth of neo nazis too right now so it's not far from truth.. and I can sense alot of hate towards the muslims now
But as i'm writing this comment, this is the thing i'm talking about, I Don't live in germany right now, and I'm responding as a guy who hears and read from the news, It can be true but it's not the FULL IMAGE of the story, and it presented by MEDIA NEWS WITH IDEOLOGY,
do you understand now what i'm mean by you need to live it to understand it?
Nah tbh I think it’s a very difficult subject and to really discuss about the subject I’d need a few our to really inform myself. All I wanted to say is that there are ways to be informed even tho you’re not living in Israel but you are right that we shouldn’t believe everything the media tells us because most news are kinda biased so you really have to inform yourself with many different sources
Exactly,
And I see people's resources, and where they gain their knowledge about Israel and about the conflict.
And then suddenly, I just understand why people afraid to fly to Israel and afraid of IDF.
The media is FULL but FULL of bs, everytime there is a video against IDF, it always starting cut off to the respond from IDF.
They will never show you the full story or what happened before the incident.
Unfortunately, people will listen to who is louder, and the haters gonna hate hate hate like taylor swift said.
Thanks for the discussion anyways, people that willing to read are rare here :)
Yeah I assumed that you don't anything else to say really, if the first thing to discuss about is a twitter video, and I explained for you genteelly why this tweet is "ok" .
"You know that anyone could posts as many links as you did about IDF war crimes and without resorting to shitty youtube videos posted by no names, right?"
You little bit disappointed me..but what can I say. good week :)
It's ok because you have a fucked up morality and think ethnic cleansing is "ok"
"Yeah I assumed that you don't anything else to say really, "
Mate you literally want me to post a hundred links from biased sources as you did? You even posted Pallywood videos, the lowest of the low
timesofisrael.com/btselem-israel-killed-..
I'm gonna post one of "Your" sources, that's better.
Do you really think that I will use holocaust examples and will be positive about ethnic cleansing.. ;D be real with yourself.
But why you respond without reading the first comment?
Like you use my sources, You can look at the first comment and look how Hamas is using civilians as human shields.
As a editor the PallyWood videos really edited badly i must say, but it doesn't say it's not true :)
Reason?
Just consider this. If you were living in a country whose powerful neighbor held you and every other person in your country in deep poverty, made sure that no real future was available, with even clean drinking water being an exception and also again and and again took away the best land available. Then would you think it justified that fighting back by whatever means available was justified - or would you turn the other cheek?
What Israel is doing is wrong. It doesn't mean what Hamas is doing is right, but you are the guys that have the power so you are the guys that can change things. Instead it seems Israel is doing its best making things worse, using the IDF to make your self more hated so you can then excuse using even more force.
You have a choice - go further down the path of hate or chose a different way and try to create a peaceful relationship with the Palestinians. If you continue on the path of hate, then eventually you'll have no friends left - your tactic of calling critics anti-Semitic has already become so transparent the World is catching on. Being a critic of Israel isn't being against Jews, it is being against a country which uses it's military to kill en essentially enslave a people.
Nice speech, let me break it down.
"If you were living in a country whose powerful neighbor held you and every other person in your country in deep poverty, made sure that no real future was available, with even clean drinking water being an exception and also again and and again took away the best land available."
Country whose *powerful* neighbor *held* you,
Powerful- I don't really want to go back now to the the six day war.
You can read it by yourself, and which potato weapon we used.
Not that I really love the stigma that jews are smart, but I think Israel really smarted out the enemy.
So I think that Smarter neighbor is the word.
Held- Yes, I think that Israel controls FROM OUTSIDE GAZA. Inside they can use their money for whatever they want, and they have ALOT ALOT OF MONEY to create a beautiful land and state.
I will refer for you 3 things for the "HELD YOU"
Second Intifada, Operation Defensive Shield , and
haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli..
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5321985,0..
jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/IDF-dest..
timesofisrael.com/hamas-demands-15-milli..
held you your country in deep poverty,
Search on Hamas, Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine, Palestine Liberation Organization, Abdullah Azzam Brigades
And please! tell me how they are treat their innocent civilians.
Who is richer and for what goes the money :)
" real future was available"
It will be available if Israel will disappear ? that is a question that you need to ask yourself.
timesofisrael.com/hamas-demands-15-milli..
timesofisrael.com/hamas-spends-100-milli..
I kind of stopped reading because your point is that GAZA's civilians has bad life because of Israel, And that's just simply not true.
1. Look who controls the money in Gaza.
2. Look from where it came, and for what reasons.
3. What happens eventually with the money, On what the money is spent on.
I will be glad to continue discuss after you answer these question and read my comment, because blaming Israel is the easiest part, but you didn't gave any evidence.
I'll just go back to my main point here. You are the ones with and army, a navy and an air force. What forces do the Palestinians have.
No question Hamas is a big problem, but looking from the outside is sure does seem like you guys are helping them to gain and stay in power - this simply by making yourself a much bigger enemy than Hamas is.
Imagine you reversed your policies, pulled back from the land grabbing settlements and aided the Palestinians if finding a real future. Then maybe all those idle hands would be glad to work and provide for their families, instead of know where almost half are without work, has no future and throw rocks or worse at you guys because you are so hated there is glory in doing so.
You know a lot about the conflict, right? Probably saw some videos on youtube. You're so smart.
lmfao didnt read
Cool. Now post all actrocites agains Palestinians by IDF or Isreali civilians.
Great thread actually, I enjoyed reading.
respond with: "who is Palestine?" game over.
You mean the 4 million Arab refugees who flood into Israel after the 1930s just look at the population statistics from that time its all over the internet...
Do you seriously think someone is gonna read that? XDD
well, count me out dude, israel meaningless, they dont even have kebab
Israeli kebab is best kebab you clearly know nothing
Turkey selling Pizzas and Hamburgers.
oMg ThEyRe StEaLiNg CuLtUrE
debating with Muslims will always lower you IQ :(
nt anne frank
nt severely autistic retard
Reported for wrong topic
name checks out
The majority of "Palestinians" support terror and that's a fact... if you see the street names named after people who stabbed little kids to death you'd regret saying that
false
hamas isn't the only terror organization, there's Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Al aqsa brigades, some make hamas look like saints...
not saying it isn't declining but its way higher than that chart for a fact.
its like having a survey talking about benjamin netanyahu and if people are favorable or unfavorable the results would show nothing about their political stance because at least half of them would want an even more right leaning government, so those statistics show nothing and the vocal majority in "Palestine" speaks for itself
there's no one to blame by them themselves the Israeli government it self gives money to the "Palestinians authority"(fatah) nevermind the US giving billions in aid to them as well, just like we Israelis made our decision by electing our government they made theirs by electing their war mongering leaders, the myth that Israel somehow is responsible to their poor choices is insanely ignorant and far fetched, blaming Israel's arms blockade for the terror organizations they are electing is like pulling a red card on a boxer with his hands over his face so he doesn't get hit...
well saying one dimensional facts is the number 1 weapon of "Palestinian" supporters, like saying oh well look look at the deathtoll on both sides when completely ignoring the IDF is defending it self against people who fire rockets from inside schools and hospitals...
i.imgur.com/MPz7Z.jpg
and it's like showing an angry IDF soldier that was spat on by "peaceful protesters" for 5 hours straight until he got frustrated, and those 10 seconds of frustration are shown worldwide in a cut video.
Also showing soldiers detain a kid for "no reason" when the kid and 30 of his friends were bombarding bricks at soldiers 5 minutes beforehand...
if you think that's the definition of a "fact" than you're not doing yourself a favor.
Well, thats one point of view. Let's see it from the second ok? You lost almost whole your country after war which you joined in. But for. ex. Italy/Germany/japan didn't. So you will fight for you country. You will be in huge disadvantage because you don't have any support from rich jews families in USA corportaion and even from USA goverment. After all you will lost any hope to get your country back and even prove it to world that EVEN EXISTS! And you will get still punished by much more stronger nation and get revenge for Hamas attacks. For Attack managed by houndreds of radicals who you don't even support. I'm sorry but i have to disaggre with what Israel do in Gaza. Palestina attacks first with rockets which can't even go thru Israel defense and the revenge on the ppl who lived there and have NO connections on Hamas are getting killed. Hopefully you will get my minds. #freeGaza
Hamas got started using Israel tactics against them. Israel plated week card during the ww2 it is not like they are the only one fucked in war but well it is what it is.
Again civilian death 50-55mil 6mil Jewish ppl russia 26.6mil china 20mil.
And read my comment I did not say they did not get fucked just that other nations got more fucked but they played weak card and got best deal of all.
They got kinda chased all over EU if I really need to mention that.
Hitler's mission ( not sure if it was his idea or Himmler) is to kill every jew from this planet.
It wasn't just a war. it was a war against ethnic group, that was one of his main things that he said in front of the Germans at speeches, Jews are the reason why Germany had very bad economy and other bs.
It was war against not arians so not just jews gypsies etc were prosecuted anywhere on planet. But why not give gypsies same treatment as to jews? You see my point a lot of ppl died and got killed for not being what hitler/himmler wanted of pure world but to say only jews got it bad is insault to all other ppl who died horrible death im useless war
I agree with you that the holocaust is one of the main reasons that Israel exist, with no doubt it pushed the idea more to reality.
Gypsies and Jews were the only two groups that the Nazi regime sought to exterminate completely.
About the gypsies, this is probably why;
: The Gypsies, long the objects of scorn in Europe, had no organization and no political champions. West German laws discriminated against them. The German Supreme Court in 1956 even ruled that Gypsies deported before 1943 were taken because they were antisocial and so were not entitled to compensation."
nytimes.com/2000/08/14/opinion/gypsies-a..
Wdym.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, and then Hamas was elected in 2007 - 12 years have passed, look how much money Hamas and the PLO are investing in terrorism against Israelis, and what they could do with that money for their people:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Author..
jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Palestin..
Well look any country could do with money but no they invest trillions in military so dont go there im saying they just play by Jewish rules by playing weak card nothing less nothing more. Im not pro Israel or pro palestine both do bad things both are shit
You live in Austria? just curious.
And I agree with you, With all the years of fighting, Israel has been involved and now get the upper hand when they need to, not that they want it.
but like USA RUSSIA CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES, they see positive and benefits in wars. Israel isn't special here.
And to be honest, the cards that israel are using that presented by BN or Dani danon, are pretty valid.
Totally agree on other countries but than again you backstab your allies during ww1 so u could get country after ww2. I also dont believe in gas chambers in ww2 since not 1 dead person was found with purple veins and purple skin witch you get when u vet gassed by zyclon B witch they say german used. (Bio chemistry major here) its all one big shit fest of lies and deception from all sides. Cmon Russians even claimed they have hitlers head and than it turned out to be women skull
Cumback Israel
tl;dr?
israel top 1
nice!
thank you
Israel more like isntreal
fortnite club isreal
your timespan is short to have an accurate view of the situation. u talk about the consequences as if there is no cause to it but pure evil.
u need to go back to when fatah had the arabic political power and why hamas managed to rise.
when u manage to put up a story since those days u will find answer on why things scalated to where they are now.
ofc. back then there were no suicidal bombings, or not as the signature weapon. there was no hamas and even more extremists running the islamic world. few sharia if any. hamas was the peoples pledge after fatahs failure of dealing with the jerusalem issue, as i know it and in a dummie explanation, as well as quite a few of extremist regimes in islamic world after the international affairs concerning the palestine matter.
ofc things now are sort of easier, uve wrecked palestinian army and cities backed by vetoes from usa despite several un documents pointing human rights violations and war crimes. all they have now is guerilla tactics.
idk what sort of brainwash ur education does with new generations to keep the shit going on, but what is really awkward is that u confounded abbas with fatah.
i didnt know about fatah now, and indeed is abbas the actual president. but now fatah is a secondary force. i was talking about the old fatah in arafats time, before hamas rose to power; before abbas. fatah was majority back then and for a long time
so, yes, despite being abbas their leader now, he rose after hamas overcome. i didnt consider him in my dummy historical painting. hamas rise to power was, as i know, exactly the failure of fatahs policies towards the diaspora.
ofc theres lots of shit and interests in the region, and after decades of underdog fights theyre now putting bombs on themselves to make statements.... this is extreme stuff. the religion argument is bullshit, u know. theyre so enraged theyre killing themselves just to make statements.
love israel
youtube.com/watch?v=CziHrYYSyPc
Iraqian fan of american team
Sounds legit lmao
TL;DR
nt propaganda IDF
Ok
youtube.com/watch?v=F8OKlbuWkTE
Rocks thrown every day, stupid image.
never trust the jews
they are evil mass murderer psychopaths that think they are chosen by god
"they are evil mass murderer psychopaths"
Ok, what caused you to think that very very hard opinion about 14M people, and 1 religion that is the biggest thing related to all of them?
" think they are chosen by god "
Some jews think that, some people that considered secular jews don't even believe in god..
evil jews saying that Poles kill jews in dead camps and wants money from us after WW2, they are disgsuting demonic evil
Real christians never judge anyone by their ethnicity, sexuality, culture or whatever. Real christians shouldnt judge anyone. Christians should love everyone (to an extent of course, f.e. love friend as a friend not life love). According to the bible christians shouldnt truly hate anyone
First of all, this is just a very small part of a report that you don't even know, a nice man edited it and cut the small part of the report to his own agendas.
Yes, this kids are brainwashed.
People that hold extremists opinions like them are very minor.
I found a nice comment that pretty much presents what i think about your cute video
this famous article again, its presenting 5% of the population, it's biased, this is not a Zionist school nor a regular school, its the complete opposite, Ultra-Orthodox school, this shitty part of my country population don't serve in the army and denying our own existence, meanwhile, they get paid by the government from my tax.
This is not how average Israelis are, and not even an average school. this video was a report about the beliefs of this tiny part of our society, showing how crazy and messed up their education is (in here is just 5% but in your side its 90%) because it's getting a lot of backlash from average Israelis, the video is complete piece of crap that was taken out of context for your shitty propaganda
Have a good day, I had nice vacations at Turkey when i was at ages 6-11, when
ahmet sezer was president.
youtube.com/watch?v=_YT8VVy0zu4 (you should read the comments btw. there are a lot of people like you in there. you'll fell happy)
i wonder what are these soldiers doing on palestine lands? if you come to my lands and try to dictate me, i would do everything to kill you.
You know how to read because you are just shooting at your legs here, look what i wrote before this repond,
"Do you know what I LOVE about his videos? that it always starting at the middle, or just when the IDF responding.
If he ran with a knife towards a soldier, Could you know that from the video?
COULD YOU?"
AND LOOK WHAT YOU POSTED hahaha, again, they cut the whole video to where the IDF soldier is responding.
SOMEONE IN THE WORLD knows what happend before that just by looking at this video?!
No, just the people who were there. THIS IS WHY THE VIDEO ISN"T SHOWING THE WHOLE SCENARIO, Only the attack.
gj my friend.
I don't give a fuck about who posted or if it is cut or not. When israel killed my unarmed people who were bringing aid and food supplies to Palestine on a ship, I just will do my best in my life to speak up against those evil people. Video cut? Then all these soldiers must be right. what a logic. what are they doing there? why don't you just go back to your lands? what do you want from unarmed people?
Anyway, you are just one of these evil people. You believe there is no country as palestine, you believe palestinian people kills your people with rocks, you believe your soldiers are angels etc. I won't be wasting my time on you. I hope you will be a good hearted person one day...
OFC you don't give a fk if it's cut or not cause hate makes you blind, like you said :)
You are probably talking about the Gaza flotilla raid that
happened in 2010.
Israel's position was that the true purpose of the flotilla was to support Hamas terrorism by provoking Israel's right to fight terrorism and thus to help its struggle, since the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip is good, inter alia, because humanitarian aid can be transferred through the land border crossings with Israel and Egypt.
The naval forces approached the ships of the flotilla and ordered them to stop and not to violate the blockade, and instead to go to the port of Ashdod, where the equipment would be unloaded, checked and transferred to the Gaza Strip through the land crossings. The proposal was rejected in the name of the flotilla ships.
And this is your beautiful unarmed people!
That some of the passengers aboard the Mavi Marmara prepared and organized in advance for the takeover of the ship and physical confrontation with the soldiers, brought with them equipment and improvised weapons (such as clubs, rods and broken bottles) to attack the soldiers.;
youtube.com/watch?v=l45yxgpxgM4
Very peaceful people, I can see it just by how they attack peacefully the soldiers, the most exciting part was how they throw the soldier from the ship at 0:42
When you don't listen to orders this is what happens, You don't expect Israel's government to let you give casually weapons to enemy. right?
Second paragraph,
"believe palestinian people kills your people with rocks" not only rocks..but yeah. /s
Yeah If I was you I will would be stop talking too cause you "don't give a fuck" as your words.
You really don't give a fuck about facts.
Israel aren't a fucktard better than any entity on earth when it comes to terrorist acts.
Long live Israel!
Hamas is the problem. Just like isis is the problem just like taliban is the problem just like Hizballah is the problem etc etc etc.
amazing how this thread is still up yet the other factual israel thread was deleted.
israelis are disgusting war criminals. they should be boycotted worse than south africa was during apartheid. if they didn't control america they would have been punished long ago.
hrw.org/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-pho..
ICC refused to investigate war crimes at the time based on a technicality because Palestine wasn't a recognised territory under the UN and because Israel refused to recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC.
Otherwise Israeli scum would already have been found guilty of USING WHITE PHOSPHORUS ON CIVILIANS.
Currently Israel is being investigated for war crimes by the UN cuz it keeps killing unarmed people who protest far away from it's fence which has lead to over a hundred deaths including children.
independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east..
p.s the OP and most of the zionists on hltv are part of israeli troll farms.
eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08..
smh.com.au/technology/israeli-propaganda..
jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Governm..
haaretz.com/.premium-social-media-hasbar..
Shalom trolls! hope you are making many shekels.
let me leave you all with this. fuck zionazis. go back to poland and germany.
youtube.com/watch?v=Kq0YuTzjN9U
never trust these deceitful people.
I like the way you don't know shit about the what you are saying, but let's go..
What is the first thing you want to talk about? let's go ONE by ONE, don't throw at me 60 links with 1 sentence.
And be respectful, I'm not gonna answer you if you gonna start cursing like 12 years old girl.
And don't call me things i'm not, like a Zionist and stuff like that. ty
I do understand clearly why, and I agree with you, they won't even negotiate without giving them half of the state of israel, and when they will get that part, they will want more or they will start attack like they are doing now.
Hamas and other org that are in Gaza, controls and sowing fear for the inferior inhabitants, they take advantage of the depression and the inferior status of having nothing to lose and it is easiest to exploit a person when he is in a crisis, in distress.
You can't negotiate with a organization that have extremist opinions like Hamas.
They are brainwashing their civilians by fear and hate, while receiving tons of money that going for terror, not for hospitals or schools or any positive way.
And i've posted above how many terror attacks has been stopped by the IDF or Shin Bet.
And another thing,
Investigations in the Israeli news about the recent period that many teenagers have bad relations with their family, and in order to regain honor from their father or family, they would stab a citizen or soldier and then he would die as a martyr, or stab and get into prison and receive excellent conditions.
And it's only about what they call "a lone wolf," which is the hardest to read and try to watch because a man simply decides in the morning to go stab a Jew without any signs before that, sometimes they are posting a status on facebook that they will do it, but that's rare.
But who said it was "their" land to begin with?
I don't think that greedy is the word, I think that the jews responsible for why Israel is so successful, they are the only ones who have managed to rehabilitate the land and solve problems of diseases as a result of swamps, paved roads, and established a country with developed technology and helped the world with many start-ups.
So I understand them and why they aren't willing to "give up" on a land which they built.
The situation is too harsh to forgive dude..both sides has a lot of casualties.
The only solution is to destroy the terror organizations, put a real human being as a president in gaza that will represent all of Palestinian people, give them money and food to start to build a new home and life.
but no, it won't happen. they want the entire country to their hands.
And we all can look up to see what is going on around Israel and the middle east in general.
The problem is that you can't really destroy the organization. There will be innocent casualties that will make more people join, also to other countries to see you in bad light. You will never know who is in and who isn't, which will lead to your country to split in half. If you manage to get any trust between, then the terrorists will use that for attacks.
The only solution is to negotiate and give them a country called Palestine, even if you had to sacrifice a lot. Supervise and limit their army, like usa&allies did with Germany after WW2.
'put a real human being as a president in gaza that will represent all of Palestinian people'
Put real human beings as presidents of every country? It's just impossible.
You know nothing about the conflict, stop talking from your ass.
Who is living under continuous fear? Have you been to palestine territories? Have you ever talked to a palestine in person? What are your sources? Youtube videos?
I knew a guy from 931 from SA (Josh), weird.., 32 was alwayas full of degenerates,..
And about the post, well there is absolutely no hope of changing someones mind because they argue using their emotion and not their reason, nowadays people dont listen, they respond. Good luck trying to communicate with these people
LMAO what a clown, actually Admins and every other social media deletes anything that says a single word against Israelis...
Not gonna read your crap but just one single thing for you...
You cant occupy a land in Palestine and claim it yours because your sacred book says so, it doesnt work like that...If that what you want to believe than killing 6 million jews (In reality barely 1 million but lets make Israelis happy) is also fair because some book somwhere said so...
How cute, 2 jews circlejerking and sucking each other dicks off...
Do you even know what Palestine is?
ancient.eu/palestine/
wise up, kid
You have no idea what Palestine is and you still come here saying bullshit about the conflict. You're pathetic.
No the media protect Israel, most media in the US has ties to jews.
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i can show more but you get the point, large % of media is owned by jews
"Who controls your mind" hahaha you killed it man.
anyways in reality this is what happens. they disinformation a lot when I was in Israel during Tzuk Eitan or during Lone wolves. and there is jews that hate Israel, a guy like you with a lot of knowledge should know that.
but srsly, nice pictures man.
Everything is discussed openly in Germany and every German claims the right to have an opinion on any and all questions. One is Catholic, the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question. Discussions happen in public and where matters are unclear or confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate even to mention: the Jewish question. It is taboo in our republic.
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
One cannot defend himself against the Jew. He attacks with lightning speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any attempt at defense.
Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack. The accused has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought the Jew. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the following radical conclusions:
1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and this negative must be erased from the German system or he will forever corrupt it.
2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy.
4. The Jew has nothing to say about German questions. He is a foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights that he always abuses.
5. The so-called religious morality of the Jews is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state.
6. The Jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken through political means.
7. A Jew cannot insult a German. Jewish slanders are but badges of honor for a German opponent of the Jews.
8. The more a German person or a German movement opposes the Jew, the more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism. He who defends the Jews harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey or a Jewish opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene.
These principles give the anti-Jewish movement a chance of success. Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the Jews, only such a movement will be feared by them.
The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we are constantly attacked in the Jewish gazettes. They may shout about terror. We answer with Mussolini’s familiar words: “Terror? Never! It is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just as a doctor does to a bacterium.
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
In matter of fact, I had a friend in Israel, he told me that when he was at Belgium he talked hebrew( which includes some "ch" "h" sounds) with his parents, and people In the street like said they are probably Jews, Israelis, he felt offended.
Can you blame him? I don't know exactly why he felt like that or what were the people is purpose by saying that, but antisemitism is nothing new. and they learn it at schools, and some do feel less than others because they are jewish etc.
I don't really get your point. you talk about people's feelings here. some hurt by it some don't.
Isn't this off-topic post?
Oy vey, Shut it down goyim! We did nothing wrong! Those muslims invaders came to our motherland first so it's our utmost right to retaliate! Moreover, there are more important conflicts out there to focus on instead of Israel. *rub hands* I heard that Nazi Trump threw an ultimatum to the Venezuelian dictator Maduro and he was about to send his troops there to invade as he doesn't seem to resign nor give a proper answer to Trump's declaration.
I reported you btw because I won't tolerate more of this anti-semitism nonsense and your jewish conspiracy *rub hands*, It all starts with death threat and then in turns into the 3rd reich and then 6 gorillions are executed.
>alt account??????
The hell are you talking about goyim.
nt jew
I just wonder what the world would be like without religion. It was made to control people but that was a very long time ago and people are still controlled by it and fight for something made up. If I said I believed in Santa Clause people would call me crazy while they worship made up Gods that were invented by man to control them and keep them in line.
Your argument is invalid. You are an atheist. You don't believe in the scriptures. How can you tell people with a straight face that Israel has the right to exist?
The Israelites are a people who were given many chance by God, and they killed prophets(peace be upon them all) and tried to kill Jesus peace be upon him and failed miserabl. The last of the righteous ruler, Nabi Sulaiman(Solomon) a.s. have made it clear in his prayer that he does not want ANYONE to inherit his kingdom from the Israelites after he had seen a body that has been placed on his throne.
I'm talking about the validity of Israel and the right for it to exist.
Because the scriptures are the one that tells you Israelites used to rule Jerusalem. If you don't believe in the scriptures then that history for you is false.
No, actually history building and archaeological findings justify the existence of Jews on this land years ago.
but seriously I don't really care what was 2000 years ago or more.
A historical case like the Holocaust and the persecution of religion in an attempt to eliminate it for so long, this justifies that the Jews have received a state of their own.
Which historical buildings? Which archaeological evidence? Are you going to tell me Jacob a.s. never existed? Then there would be no Israelites and no such things as Jews. They feel a sense of belonging because of the prophets that came from their people. God did not destroy them like he did like the people of Nuh or Lut but kept sending prophets. Their rank were raised high because of this but it was lowered and finally ended because they kept killing the Prophets peace be upon them all and disobeyed them.
How can you not care what happened 2000 years ago? The basis for it to exist is literally because Prophets, from the Israelites, used to rule it and that ruling is ended with them with Prophet Solomon being the final ruler. Their entire motivation is in the Torah. The jews rejected The Messiah Jesus peace be upon him and totally lost the messiah to rule Jerusalem. They had their chance and blew it big time.
So did the Native Americans, but we don't see them occupying NA now do we?
