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S1mple is GOAT
s1mple | 
Ukraine vodkaslayer 
EZ for S1mple the best player to ever play this game , You can cry and be delusional and say that he dont have a major but that does not change the fact that he is the most skilled and best player in the game and no player is close to him , And he is still young , He have many more years to give and have the chance to win a major And i love how many haters have said that S1mple ''farms'' stats outside finals and so on while he had #1 playoff and FINAL rating of any pro 2018 And what is your opinion on that the HLTV ranking guy basicly said that device in 2018 was better than 2014 #1 GTR 2015 #1 olofmeister 2016 #1 coldzera 2017 #1 coldzera I dont know if he just ignored 2013 or that GTR was just better then but that confirms basicly that S1mple is GOAT in CSGO no player was close to him in 2018
2019-01-23 09:45
No
2019-01-23 09:46
haha VP
2019-01-23 09:46
haha crimea
2019-01-23 09:46
#29
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Poland WildM 
XD
2019-01-23 10:16
F0rest was the most skilled player in 1.6 but we all know neo is the goat
2019-01-26 04:06
S1mple not even top 3 in the history Coldzera, Get Right and Device are at the top greats!
2019-01-26 19:02
ahahahhha wp +1
2019-01-23 10:36
#44
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Finland trashsports 
Retard?
2019-01-23 10:42
Expecto Maluko From Baguette
2019-01-23 10:56
#43
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Finland trashsports 
Crimea is still Ukraine
2019-01-23 10:42
Nah
2019-01-23 10:42
#56
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Russia KyMbICbI4 
No. It was russian and now it will be russian. Khruschev make big mistake. People of Crimea dicide where they will be. Respect they opinion. But text from Vodkaslayer is good
2019-01-23 10:57
#71
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Finland trashsports 
No, There are a lot of international treaties about Ukrainian Crimea which was violated by Russia
2019-01-23 11:09
#123
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Russia hanzjosha 
Keep being idiot and listen to them
2019-01-23 11:40
#89
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Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
This referendum was illegal hello, moskovian)))))
2019-01-23 11:20
nt simple
2019-01-23 11:27
nt fake prokda
2019-01-23 12:46
#192
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Finland trashsports 
+1
2019-01-23 12:37
cry me a river
2019-01-23 13:06
its a truth, and you should know that
2019-01-23 15:12
As much as Crimea has the right to be Russian if it wants to be, there are still important issues behind the sovereignty of Crimea. A: Invasion of countries during peace time is absolutely unacceptable in today's political climate. B: The referendum that was held, was held under military occupation. Can you see the flaw here? I wouldn't want to vote against Russia if there were armed guards outside my polling office. The referendum result shouldn't be accepted.
2019-01-23 13:26
#323
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
nice nick down
2019-01-26 12:40
#77
FYRR73 | 
Latvia Syecr 
Gay?
2019-01-23 11:11
#84
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Finland trashsports 
I am not gay, but I respect them
2019-01-23 11:15
+1
2019-01-23 13:21
#242
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El Salvador mikj 
XD
2019-01-24 03:08
So EZ for my boy S1mple
2019-01-23 09:47
cringe
2019-01-23 12:46
people that say cringe are cringe
2019-01-23 12:49
people that say cringe is cringe are cringe
2019-01-23 12:50
people that say, that people that say cringe is cringe are cringe are cringe
2019-01-24 04:32
#298
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Indonesia MeX0NNNN 
cringe
2019-01-25 04:44
#5
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Mongolia Travys 
Dont drink vodka too much
2019-01-23 09:49
#268
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Denmark Cleandog 
+1
2019-01-24 07:50
being the best player with the highest peak in ONE YEAR doesnt mean that s1mple is the goat because no, he is far from that. the best individually skilled player in history? probably but surely not the GOAT in the right meaning
2019-01-23 09:49
So you are gonna judge a player how good they are because they won less because they dont play for the #1 team when its a 5man game ? S1mple is clearly the most skilled player ever and just because he did not play for #1 team and won a lot does not change anything and you know that aswell S1mple is GOAT as the most skilled PLAYER ever But if you wanna count in something as a lot of event wins and a major or two i guess he is not GOAT in your eyes but again does not change the fact that he is the most skiilled PLAYER ever and dont act like have been bad before 2018 he played for dogshit teams and did get #4 and #8 in 2016 and 2017
2019-01-23 09:54
i said myself that he is the best individually skilled player with the highest peak...but the goat means much, MUCH more than that
2019-01-23 09:55
Not really If you wanna compare a player to a player this is they way , You dont give a shit about how much they won when end of the day its a 5man game and you alone with 1 more cant win as much
2019-01-23 10:00
oh boy...ok, i will not continue in this since you dont the difference between the most individually skilled player and the greatest of ALL TIME. bye
2019-01-23 10:02
How can i call some1 GOAT when they clearly is way worse than S1mple in 2018 You are just calling them GOAT for the reason that they won more as a team and won a major or two , This is not Quake you cant win majors and big events by yourself but S1mple almost did that with the help from electronic without them they would never made it out of groups even S1mple is GOAT as the most skilled player ever if you wanna make a big deal out of more wins go ahead
2019-01-23 10:16
how you define GOAT? by team achievements? well in that case luck is one of the main factors because you not always can choose the right team, which will make it possible and your contribution to being a GOAT is only partial if we speak honestly here again look at the olofmeister now in FaZe, many consider him a GOAT, but for some reason (mb he tired, won enough or something else) he's really bad and of the players who drag FaZe down so I'm curious to hear what actually defines a GOAT then
2019-01-23 10:59
one of the bigest aspect if we are talking about the greatest of ALL TIME is relevancy on the highest level. if we would talk about s1mple, its about +- 2 years only. another big aspect is consistency...same as above other aspects: 1.individual performance 2.individual awards(evps, mvps, placement in the best players of the year etc) 3.achievments all those aspect have to be considered. s1mple surely is on good way but currently he isnt top3 and maybe even in top5 of the greatests of all time
2019-01-23 11:12
ok, I got it, but at the same time most of it is hugely dependant on the team quality overall and not the player himself. like lets look at your list again - achievements - almost completely on team (unless you are a defining factor in all their games, which is close to impossible in a truly #1 team) - individual awards (especially, MVP's is also pretty much team effort, simply because a team makes it to the final and the better player of that winning team will get mvp even if other players from other teams showed better performance) such things as relevancy, consistency and individual performance indeed on the player's back, even tho team influences that aspect as well by giving you confidence and making you feel comfortable in the game itself
2019-01-23 11:24
its like that in every sport. you just cant be the GOAT without achievments and individual awards. you can be the best player individually with the highest individual skill and peak but it isnt enough for being the goat youtube.com/watch?v=jqEL4CDWXR8 i couldnt agree more with him to be honest
2019-01-23 11:33
well that's true, achievements are actually essential for that title, but then again, the player, worthy of this, must really stand out from the rest of his teammates as well as other players and I'm not talking about pure stats, but also skill level, which you can determine with unarmed eye if this player is that good indeed so for example if we take s1mple and device I think none of them is GOAT yet, s1mple cause he didn't achieve that much and he's not smart enough yet in game sometimes and device because he's not really that good of a player to be worthy of that title, nor he actually stands out as the most impactful one in his team and compared to other high caliber players
2019-01-23 11:49
real performance on the server >>>>>>>> something hypotetical like individual skill which you cant even measure and compare. hard work, good team play >> talent. lets stick with FACTS here
2019-01-23 11:52
if we talk about pure teamplay and hard working team let's don't replace concepts of 'GOAT team' and 'GOAT player', cause you can't be the best of all just cause your team works like a clock, that's the other thing, so I believe skill and talent can't be so easily overshadowed by what u just said, and btw impact of a player you can actually see by following players games for some time
2019-01-23 12:00
+1 don't mind the s1mple fans
2019-01-23 11:34
yea, same shit can be said about device's fanboys, so nt
2019-01-23 11:51
I didn't say Device GOAT or said I was device fan you are saying false information nt s1mple fangay OMEGALUL
2019-01-23 12:29
find the comment where I said I personally think s1mple is GOAT and also when I wrote 'yea, same shit can be said about device's fanboys, so nt' I was referring to all device's fanboys and not you in particular, so learn to read retard xD
2019-01-23 12:33
Not my fault that you can't accept s1mple isn't GOAT and never will be.
2019-01-23 12:37
yea we'll see about that, he's already stands out from the rest, so nt
2019-01-23 12:42
That doesn't mean he'll stand this way you are aware of that right?
2019-01-23 13:03
I don't see the reason why he wouldn't, he's only improving if you look at the last few years I know you would like to see him fail, but I don't tho
2019-01-23 13:32
#26
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Germany thebestchen 
+1
2019-01-23 10:14
Too early to call him goat but he is on a good way
2019-01-23 09:53
His stats in 2018 makes every #1 player before look like shit and he did that with a team with 3 players outside top 20 and two of them had a rating under 1 He did get #4 2016 #8 2017 so its not like 2018 was just good for him Does not matter what you say facts cant change that no player have ever been at this kind of peak like S1mple was in 2018 You can have a opinion and dont agree and say that he needs to win a major and more events but back in your head you still knowsthat no player have ever been close to what S1mple did in 2018
2019-01-23 09:58
#30
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Germany thebestchen 
Look stats from gtr in 2013... In all better then simple 2018...more mvp more Titels more motm... Rating a little Bit lower..
2019-01-23 10:19
Not sure how many MVP's GTR won in just 2013 i know he has 10 total but dont remember how many of them was in 2014 And GTR stats is not even close to S1mple in 2018 hltv.org/stats/players/compare/39/GeT_Ri.. S1mple played way more games and vs better teams than it was in 2013
2019-01-23 10:24
#121
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
When you look at all matches (larger sample so most accurate) GTR beats s1 on most measures: hltv.org/stats/players/compare/39/GeT_Ri..
2019-01-23 11:39
now compare the teams and the amount of events with good teams -.- Then we can take Zyw0o and act like he is better than S1mple because he have better rating just because he plays vs worse teams and no games at big events almost just like GTR in 2013 because he played vs dogshit teams
2019-01-23 11:42
#133
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
I didn't say Zyw0o was better than s1mple?
2019-01-23 11:45
You are trying to say GTR is better you are using prettu much same shit logic
2019-01-23 11:46
#136
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
Well no, because he played against other big teams of the time such as fnatic
2019-01-23 11:48
#232
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Germany thebestchen 
No one say gtr is better then simple or simple is shit... Ur a simple Fan kid and dont understand that this year 2018 is good. But its nothing too special an make simple now to goat.... IT was a great year an He is the most skilled Player arm but far away from a Cs goat
2019-01-23 22:10
Meh I wouldn't count him that far away, if he get #1 2019 I think people would start to really count him as one of the goats
2019-01-24 11:39
#328
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Germany thebestchen 
Yeah maybe, and win Ing some Big Titels... But that is far far away that simple is no1 2019 and winning some Titels
2019-01-26 13:17
#10
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Slovakia Rhanus 
he is best right now , but not CSGO GOAT.
2019-01-23 09:57
No player have ever been near to what S1mple did in 2018 He is clearly the GOAT in terms of skill and peak and the best PLAYER If you wanna count in major wins and more big events win when its a 5man game and act like some1 that clearly is worse but they just won more like olofmiester and coldzera is better because of that i guess thats fine but does not really matter much in this case
2019-01-23 10:04
#12
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Brazil BlueLighting 
S1mple was the GOAT of 2018, not the GOAT ever... Just like Ronaldinho on his peak... he needs results this year and next next next year to be a real GOAT
2019-01-23 09:58
#17
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Denmark JustYes 
"GOAT of 2018" You do realize that GOAT = Greatest Of All Time Right?
2019-01-23 10:04
goat mean 2012-2019
2019-01-23 10:08
No goat means -13.7billions years to 2019
2019-01-23 10:40
brazilian education... G.O.A.T. = Greatest Of All Time "GOAT of 2018"
2019-01-23 10:13
#16
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Denmark JustYes 
NiKo is actually close to him in terms of skill, I'd even go as far and say that NiKo is the better aimer. But s1mple probably wins all around
2019-01-23 10:04
When NiKo plays his A-game yes ofcourse he is he have the most dominant title run ever i think at 1.70 rating but he is not even close to the consistency of S1mple and that he clearly is playing better in playoffs and finals I like that so many made fun of S1mple because he had a really bad major grandfinal vs the best team in the world and acted like he is a chocker in finals and farms stats in the start of events He still had #1 rating in playoffs and finals EDIT : and NiKo clearly played for a better team most of his time in FaZe (2017) aswell compared to S1mple with Na'Vi he basicly was Na'Vi itself
2019-01-23 10:12
#61
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France PowwneD 
I think that the upcoming rivalry between two greatest players will be between ZywOo and s1mple, they are just above everyone in term of skill and game vision. They are the only ones who can solo-carry any games at any time and having such consistency (maybe too early to say it about ZywOo but his consistency since he is professional is just incredible.
2019-01-23 11:00
Yes Zyw0o have 0 games at big events tho and no games vs any top teams so he still have to prove himself but what you can see so far he is skilled as fuck but does not matter if he dont do it vs the best so i hope i gets a good team later because i dont feel like the france scene will make him the best
2019-01-23 11:01
#66
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France PowwneD 
He keep the same stats against bigger teams, at the time when he was in aAa, he just solo-beat Gambit who won one month after the game the Major (just MDL match also not the best major so far i can agree but still) hltv.org/stats/players/matches/11893/Zyw.. hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/48595/..
2019-01-23 11:04
Not really ''top'' team and he had 0 games 2018 at big events so He is skilled as fuck he make his teammates that is old legends look like bots He still have to prove himself i hope he gets into the major
2019-01-23 11:08
#73
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France PowwneD 
Won DH open, i agree that he didn't yet achieve something great yet but i'm not worry about that. Would be interesting to see Vitality against NaVi. Just wait a month and there will be no more "0 games at big events" Also his stats make his mates look like bots buts they aren't lol
2019-01-23 11:10
#181
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Denmark JustYes 
NiKo is very very consistent as well, just look at his events. He hasn't had a negative event since joining FaZe.
2019-01-23 12:19
I know but not to the same level and again not as high ratings in playoffs and finals compared to S1mple or even device in 2018
2019-01-23 12:20
NiKo is close to S1mple's skill in some areas, but S1mple in addition to having better aim than NiKo with rifles which is NiKo's strongest suit, also has buckets of unprecedented skill in other places where NiKo doesn't even have places. NiKo's aiming STYLE is something different from skill level which NiKo's level is very high, but S1mple is better. S1mple is a high sens player though which is stark contrast to NiKo so his crosshair movement naturally won't LOOK as 'clean' as NiKo's, but that does not mean it isn't as effective. Fact is S1mple has the best aim in Counterstrike as evidenced by having the lowest average time-to-damage in the entire scene. And the crazy thing is this is only one fraction of his skillset. Most top players have one or two things they are very good at, or among the best in the world at. NiKo rifle aim, Devve awp skill, Xyp clutch situations, etc. However with S1mple he has ALL those skills at such a high level that are equal or better than the very elites that specialise in each of them. His movement both Macro and Micro, aim, gun skill with every single weapon, game sense and big picture understanding of a match, and so many other aspects of his skill, are the best in the world, and this is what puts him on a different planet from A NiKo, Dev1ce, Cold, etc. at least in 2018. Even just looking at his stats tells you enough. Leader by a clear margin inn opening kills and kpr while being only one 1vX being Xyp for most clutches. TL:DR- S1mple's skill as a whole is not only significantly higher than NiKo's, but its also 1000x broader.
2019-01-23 11:29
#185
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Denmark JustYes 
As I said, s1mple is better overall because he is a God at literally everything in the game besides in game leading. But NiKo is also a God at everything in the game, he has perfect aim, great with awp, amazing pistol player, decent clutcher and can be a IGL to some extent. Both of them are another level above everyone else, but yes s1mple is a bit better. But he's not 1000x better.
2019-01-23 12:23
I wouldn't just say a bit either, but definitely not 1000x. I would say that simple is much better.
2019-01-24 11:41
#286
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Denmark JustYes 
S1mple is better, I agree. But NiKo is the only player that is even close to him in terms of raw skill.
2019-01-24 13:02
I agree to that aswell.
2019-01-24 15:22
I don't understand why everyone trust him to suddenly go all honest and clean after cheating and ban evading. I never trust someone who has been caught repeatedly lying or deceiving about serious matters, why would you?
2019-01-23 10:06
Yes, you are r3r4rd3d.
2019-01-23 10:13
Not really, but thanks for your concern. I might have other problems, but my intelligence is certainly not one of them.
2019-01-23 10:20
He is almsot not toxic at all anymore he have done 0 toxic moments as i can remember in 2018 he also is nice and donates his FPL money to charitys and that you bringing up cheating watch this Watch this clip at 6:05 youtube.com/watch?v=aFRyOl1RSl0
2019-01-23 10:21
I know he is improving, but he needs to fully accept, despite his insane skills, that winning CS.GO matches is a team effort, and not something he does on his own. When he fully accepts this, his stats may drop a little, but his teams trophy collection will grow. I think he is still too self focused, and not willing to sacrifice his stats. This is also why I think he was a bad choice as no. 1 (on top him having a cheating history). TLDR; Promoting a kind of selfish madfragger with a history of cheating is not sending the right signals to the community, pro, up and coming players and the general "casual" scene.
2019-01-23 10:28
Not really tell to zues edward and flamie to start playing like a top 20 player then if they wanna win more.... Makes me angry when people think you get better stats if you have worse teammates and that teams with a lot of good players like Astralis you get worse rating because they ''steal'' frags S1mple stats did go up when electronic joined becuase he was a good fragger and made them win more games and rounds
2019-01-23 10:29
It's not about his teammates playing bad. Don't forget the history of those players, and that Navi was winning more when they had Seized, who seemed to be the main target of "kick X" back then. S1mple>Guardian Electronic>Seized But still....they perform worse as a team than they did back then. The brain is not in the wrist. He doesn't make any great plays, where you think "s1mple is just so smart". His insane skills are all mechanics, not gamesense.
2019-01-23 10:50
When S1mple was not in Na'VI and Na'VI was at their peak all players was good even edward the only player that was bad was zues and during that time they had starix that called a lot for them because that was during the time coaches could IGL....... They won 4 events in 2018 dont act like they won much more before
2019-01-23 10:55
True enough. Though I think they won bigger titles back then. But I still hold onto my words about him. He needs to accept that Navi, or whatever team he plays for, is not about him. He is playing for a team, not a team playing for him. A proper CS.GO team should also be about a 5 players doing everything they can to improve the game of one another round after round, which yields you victories in the end. If one or more player doesn't commit to this idea, it will be a hindrance for the entire team. It always is, never seen the opposite. I will see him as the best when this happens, But until then, he is nowhere close to being the best CS.GO player, but merely the player with (by far) the best mechanics and the most flashy playstyle within the top teams.
2019-01-23 11:03
Makes me angry when you say that he nees to ''accept'' blabla Na'Vi would not even be in top 20 team without S1mple he is pretty much the solo reason they won something and made it out of groups in 2018 with help from electronic He does what every star player does but 2x more
2019-01-23 11:06
I don't believe your second paragraph for a minute. He is basically statpadding when he isn't committing to the team 100%, but expects the team to commit to him.
2019-01-23 11:08
s1mple's numbers speak for themselves and leave no room for debate as to who deserved to sit at the top of the ranking. He was by far the highest-rated player of 2018 at Big Events (1.34), standing out in practically every way and on both sides, averaging the best T-side rating (1.34) and the second-best CT-side rating (1.33). The Ukrainian prodigy was ranked first for frags (0.87 kills per round), damage (87.4) and KDD (+1107), and had the third-lowest deaths per round ratio (0.59). He was simultaneously the best at opening up rounds, boasting the highest opening kills per round ratio at 0.14 and the highest opening duel success at 64.9%, and the second-best at closing them when left alone, racking up 75 clutches, only two fewer than Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth. s1mple had no match in terms of consistency, however you look at it: round-to-round (76.0% KAST), map-to-map (86.5% of maps with above-average ratings) and event-to-event (1.19+ ratings at every tournament).
2019-01-23 11:11
You have your ways of picking the best, I have mine. None are better than the other, I accept your ways of picking the best, as they are yours to choose at anytime. But I do not accept them as generally true. The HLTV rankings are HLTV's rankings, not some universal truth, but rather a high prestigious ranking system. They aren't even official CS.GO rankings, despite being treated as such.
2019-01-23 11:14
#165
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United States Jammin800k 
Explain yourself, what do you mean when he "doesnt commit to the team" do you have any actual examples of this?
2019-01-23 12:03
#110
2019-01-24 03:06
#80
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France PowwneD 
Agree with that, also when you have a war machine like s1mple in your team you will try to make him shine and make him the most confortable possible cause he is the kind of player who can carry hard when it's needed
2019-01-23 11:12
Yes but people are stupid and say its just ''bait'' and act like everything else is not a factor
2019-01-23 11:14
#87
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France PowwneD 
Yeah but it's not, when you have a player who is able to drop 40 bombs each game, you will let him do it in the best way possible. Nobody in Astralis got the same skill level as s1mple and they are way more homogeneous than Navi or Vitality in term of skill, so plaing around a player who can solo beat any team is not a bad idea as far as you have a larger panel of plays than only baiting for him.
2019-01-23 11:17
Worked wonders a few years back. Doesn't work as well anymore.
2019-01-23 11:16
#88
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France PowwneD 
#87
2019-01-23 11:17
Their igl was starix when they were successful with that lineup,not Zeus,thats a big difference maker
2019-01-23 11:29
Zeus won a major with a team with zero star players. You, s1mple, electronic, and everyone else shouldn't forget this when calling him a problem. Maybe Gambit had more respect for him? You know, S1mple publicly flamed Zeus for having his side project going, on cam. You don't wash your clothes in public, that's just stupid. S1mple is probably convinced the brain is in the wrist, that's how smart he seems.
2019-01-23 11:33
#264
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United States Jammin800k 
That's irrelevant to the current situation of navi. If Zeus is such a good leader then he should either be able to work with the pieces whil having two top 5 players on his team to create a consistent team or realize that the team needs changes. S1mple is not the issue with navi
2019-01-24 05:26
He has been an issue before, he is still an issue when he publicly flames a teammate (Zeus for starting a side-project now that his player career is about to end.) I understand the issue with Zeus doing this, but that s1mple throws fuel to the fire is not going to make teamplay and trust any better. This is an action of a young immature mind. He is still toxic, and yet to understand what it means to be a proper teammate.
2019-01-24 08:55
You have no actual proof to your statements, stop spreading bullshit.
2019-01-24 11:44
Live on cam, unfortunately I don't bookmark every fucking little thing I see, sorry about that. It's still true, he was washing clothes in public, which is plain out stupid.
2019-01-25 04:27
#308
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United States Jammin800k 
Almost as stupid as publicly announcing that you will retire this year and starting a 2nd new side project within the csgo scene
2019-01-25 18:41
nah, it isnt. Why don't you go to Ukraine and ask to suck his dick, instead of all this virtual sucking?
2019-01-26 03:46
#313
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United States Jammin800k 
It actually is and you've provided no relevant points that prove the opposite.
2019-01-26 04:01
#288
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United States Jammin800k 
S1mple is the hardest working player on navi and it shows the team playing around him is because Zeus feels that's the best way for navi to play. S1mple isnt calling the shots, just read any interview with him. If you're blaming the teams style that's fine but thats Zeuss fault not s1mples
2019-01-25 02:18
You don't think s1mple is wielding his ego between games. You don't think he has anything to say about the tactics? Zeus is IGL...In Game Leader.
2019-01-25 04:55
#307
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes and if you've ever heard Zeus talk or witnessed vods of their in game comme it's very clear that Zeus controls the team and their decision making. I'm sure all of the players have something to say that's the point of being on a team but the tactical elements and teams style are completely on the back of zues, it's his choice to play around s1mple and enable electronic which greatly reduces the amount of resources the other 3 have.
2019-01-25 18:40
Dude. Tactics are not made on the server. Ever heard of preparation? And you have no fucking ideo if it is his choice to lay around s1mple or not. Just book that flight and go suck his dick already, would ya? You are blatantly fangay.
2019-01-26 03:49
#315
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes I've heard of preperation. I've also heard that s1mple is one of the CS:GO players who puts almost allll of his time into the game which is why his hour count is so high, he has nearly double the hours of NiKo on CS:GO and is pretty much always playing the game, thats how he got so good in the first place on top of some insane natural talent. "And you have no fucking ideo if it is his choice to lay around s1mple or not." Basic logic says he does considering his temperament and his role in the team. But if I dont know if its his choice to play around s1mple, then how do you think you're even more qualified to make an even bigger assumption and say that s1mple is calling the shots and that his ego is affecting the team? Pretty huge lack of self awareness on your part, and you've officially been destroyed in this argument.
2019-01-26 04:06
lol, you are a fool.
2019-01-26 04:34
#320
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United States Jammin800k 
0/8
2019-01-26 04:43
Typical HLTV pleb, 0/8 when truth is presented.
2019-01-26 12:37
#329
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United States Jammin800k 
-8/8
2019-01-26 18:59
#156
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United States Jammin800k 
These have got to be some of the dumbest comments ive ever read. To insinuate that s1mple has low game sense and is "all mechanical" and that Navi's failures dont entirely rest on zeus and edward being way too difficult to carry.
2019-01-23 12:00
Zeus 1 major (with 0 star players on the team winning), s1nple 0 majors.
2019-01-24 03:07
#265
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United States Jammin800k 
Hobbit and adren were both top 20 that year and mou was a strong player. Current navi peaked higher than gambit so I'm not even sure why you think that's a relevant point. That's like saying c9 won a major therefore they're better than 2018 liquid
2019-01-24 05:27
They wouldn't be anywhere near top 20 without that major win, which is easily argued to be mostly contributed by Kane and Zeus. And no, the comparison in your last paragraph is pure bullshit. I don't even want to state why, it's bloody obvious to anyone, even you I presume, but you conveniently refrain to state the impact of roster changes within C9. You are wasting my time when you bring up such an irrelevant argument.
2019-01-24 08:59
#289
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United States Jammin800k 
The roster changes occurred because the team was going downhill and stewie gave them an ultimatum. I'm sorry didnt adren get the major MVP? All of the players were doing their jobs very well Zeus had good leadership and the trio was playing some of their best CS. It wasnt just Zeus and Kane it was a 6 man effort. The major win isnt the deciding factor or which team is better anyway so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up. This iteration of navi has won more tier 1 events and placed top 4 much more consistently than the major winning gambit team and its largely on the back of s1mple with strong help from electronic and the rest of the players being severely inconsistent or overall poor.
2019-01-25 02:24
So what if Adren got the MVP. MVP has a natural bias against IGL's, you know, being all stats based, just like your view upon s1mple....all stat based, and you and others stand up for him like you own life is at risk. But keep on praising a player lacking proper team spirit. You NEVER flame a teammate in public, ever, s1mple did that not long ago I think it was at one of the blast tourneys. Nice way to promote people to pick up cheats in an attempt to become a oneman army, not giving a flying fuck about teamplay. Astralis became good when Magisk joined and they stopped making device center of everything. But let's just piss in the face of teamplay, in the name of s1mple, his insane raw mechanics, and his yet to be fixed, toxic behaviour. If you really wish him to win more games and tourneys, you should urge him to work on his weakest side, instead of solely praising his stronger side while flaming his teammates, acting ike s1mple is a complete player who can't improve anything but his mechanical skills.
2019-01-25 04:42
#306
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United States Jammin800k 
He doesnt do any of the "flaming" or "toxicity" that your claiming. And how do you know he didnt talk to Zeus privately about starting a new side project. You talk so much about team building and respect and yet it's fine for Zeus to publicly announce his retirement a year early and begin heavily focusing on another project to secure his retirement? I'm pretty sure you wouldnt like that anymore than s1mple. Especially considering s1mple is playing the best CS of any player to touch the game and wants to win right now and should be able to and is being held back by multiple members of his team individually. Let me ask you, do you think the current navi has enough individual talent to consistently beat Liquid and Astralis?
2019-01-25 16:43
Yes they do, if the selfish players put their ego aside. You know I am right, but yet you keep sucking his dick.
2019-01-26 03:50
#314
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United States Jammin800k 
Annnnd you're out of things to say so you resort to "stop sucking his dick" which basically translates to "I have no relevant arguments. Thanks for conceding :) If the current Navi has enough talent and S1mple and electronic are playing like top 5 players in the world then how can the fault be on anyone but the under-performing players and the IGL? You simply cant deny that Edward doesnt belong in tier 1, mechanically or fundamentally, Zeus is a poor fragger and the team lacks tactics, and flamie has been severely under-performing. If it wasnt for these things Navi would have a lot more trophies despite whatever egos and personality clashes the team has (which stem from multiple players, not just s1mple) to only blame s1mple is clear hate and ignorance as well as a clear lack of understanding of roles within the team and CS as a whole
2019-01-26 04:11
it's 2019, not 2015 where madfraggers was all you needed for success.
2019-01-26 12:38
#330
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United States Jammin800k 
Nah multiple team styles can work if executed properly. That's how they won 3 big event trophies (tied for 2nd most of any team last year). The issue with navi is a lack of tactics and underperforming players. Thank you for once again confirming your lack of knowledge about the CS scene.
2019-01-26 19:02
his cheating history was like forever ago at the start of his career and it is not clear was that really cheats or what kind of cheats anyway, it's 2019 already and why can't the best player earn his deserved #1... some ppl leave in the past way too long
2019-01-23 11:10
#83
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France PowwneD 
Same with ZywOo, in 2k17 everyone said tat he was 100% cheater, then in late 2k18 everyone claiming him like the new god of CS ..
2019-01-23 11:14
yea, interesting stuff xd
2019-01-23 11:26
Was Zyw0o caught cheating and ban evading? Not the same, at all.
2019-01-23 11:36
Was flusha caught cheating and ban evading? Just stop it.
2019-01-24 11:45
no, but s1mple was, which is a fact. You stop it, trying to derail the conversation by posting a completely irrelevant post.
2019-01-25 04:57
You're being irrelevant, i just countered your argument with the same argument you used, yet mine is irrelevant, how childish.
2019-01-25 07:41
Flusha hasn't been caught cheating, which makes the comparison that YOU made irrelevant. You are comparing a suspected cheater with a player who has been caught cheating.
2019-01-26 12:40
You must be very very young if you call 4 years forever. IMO, he is most likely a cheater. Live with it, you or anyone else can't change my opinion no matter how hard you try to belittle me. Your kindergarten tactics doesnt work on me.
2019-01-24 03:10
lol, it's funny to hear ppl who call him cheater even now and ofc no one in this industry is smart enough to expose him, even more so, they praise him and give #1 spot instead, so nt boyo be the truth seeker that u are and reveal the horrible secrets of s1mple, I dare you xd
2019-01-24 03:14
Why do you presume the industry wants to expose him? What would happen if the industry exposed him. I will tell you what would happen: The industry would lose it's value, and everyone involved in the industry would make less money from the industry. Basic business logic, which perfectly explains the lack of bans in top CS. Valve wouldn't ban a single soul they could avoid banning. It's bad for everyone. But you presume that business men are honest? Fucking lol. Way too many people replace logic with fanboyism.
2019-01-24 03:19
if s1mple cheats, then glaive and xyp9x as well, cause what they do with smokes sometimes is x3 times more blatant and if you think that all this system is corrupted from inside, why would you bring only s1mple's argument tho? quite hypocritical, don't you think? Nevertheless, it is how it is, I don't really think you're right, but none of us can change a thing in this scene
2019-01-24 03:29
This thread is about s1mple, does that answer your question? I am not sure about all these nvidia settings, but I have had my suspicions about gla1ve for awhile. A cheat like an attached device which can vibrate and a trusted person in the audience can easily yield wonders. Gla1ve's brothers has attended lots of his tourneys...just saying. But TBH, I fear cs.go may be like pro cycling. You need some exterior help to perform at highest level. PS most of the smoke kills is from banana, right? A congested area which makes smoke kills a lot easier Especially if you practice it nonstop. But it could also be cheats who knows I don't trust the scene to be pure in spirit. It's a business before anything else. They may say they don't play for money, which is nothing but a hollow statement to please the fans. They started CS.GO for fun, they stayed for the money.
2019-01-24 04:04
Cry is free TSM fanboy
2019-01-23 10:35
I don't see the relevance of your statement. "Grass is green" has about same relevance.
2019-01-23 10:44
Cuz he baits more than coldz ? Hes aim is shaky and there are many better players
2019-01-23 10:13
Yes what a baiter :3
2019-01-23 10:14
too much bullshit in a single comment, not even nt
2019-01-23 11:11
flag checks out
2019-01-23 11:23
doesn't matter at all, bs will remain bs whatever the flag or flair is
2019-01-23 11:28
0/8
2019-01-23 11:33
S1mple GOAT
2019-01-23 10:13
+1
2019-01-23 10:14
nt sasha
2019-01-23 10:28
NT hater
2019-01-23 10:30
nope i am not hater. he deserved #1 spot af. goat's meaning is greatest of all time. all time. time.
2019-01-23 10:30
You can read more up there what i have said earlier His stats in 2018 are to hard to ignore no player have ever been close to what he did in 2018 and he did that by not even playing in the #1 team The HLTV ranking guy said that device in 2018 was better than 2014 #1 GTR 2015 #1 olofmeister 2016 #1 coldzera 2017 #1 coldzera And that was #2 player , S1mple outclassed him in everything so if you wanna call device GOAT instead go ahead because he have won 2 majors and many events and have a good ranking pretty much every year but how can some1 call him GOAT if he never even been #1
2019-01-23 10:36
Ukraine LOL
2019-01-23 10:46
Thats haram EU
2019-01-23 10:48
Low quality bait, reported
2019-01-23 10:51
#52
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CIS NaVi_Boss 
Agreed man. But u need to learn have/has :)
2019-01-23 10:54
i dont like girl
2019-01-23 10:55
#57
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CIS NaVi_Boss 
he/she/it has you/we/they have
2019-01-23 10:57
i like
2019-01-23 10:59
#54
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Turkey Lennon1923 
he is not goat u can check 2013 stats
2019-01-23 10:55
You mean GTR ? S1mple have way better stats than GTR in 2018 vs him in 2013 and S1mple have way more games and the game is way harder today than it was in 2013 it was still new back then
2019-01-23 10:58
#68
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Georgia bazuking 
hltv.org/stats/players/39/GeT_RiGhT?star.. chek it there was not big events so 1.58 kd and 1.33 rating is better i guess so stfu pls
2019-01-23 11:07
Who cares about all games its about LAN and big events and again if you gonna compare teams in 2013 to teams today jesus And S1mple still have better stats you are just looking at the RATING
2019-01-23 11:10
Dude, why didn't you write that initially? You could have saved yourself lots of time. fucking lol@fanboys protecting their idols as if they were protecting their own lives. Even if you were s1mple himself, it is fucking lol@protecting your reputation like it was your life.
2019-01-24 04:08
#293
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Turkey Lennon1923 
i think u have so much problems
2019-01-25 03:02
Do you even know meaning of GOAT?
2019-01-23 11:01
Yes you can read a lot up there He have 2016 #4 2017 #8 2018 #1 While his 2018 year is by far the monst dominant year ever by a player and no player is even close to that Just because a player played a year more or two and won more does not really change the fact that they never been at S1mple level
2019-01-23 11:04
He needs to keep it up to become GOAT , tho I'm s1mple fan and for me he is top 1 rn, but for sure not GOAT
2019-01-23 11:09
No player have ever been close to what S1mple did in 2018 Just because a player played 1 more year or 2 and won more when its a 5man game , dosent make them a BETTER player if you wanna count titles and count them in and act like they make you a ''better'' player go a head Its not like S1mple have won nothing or have no MVP's He still have 6 titles and 6 MVP's with many good runs and that is while not even being close to be the #1 team like every another top player at one point did
2019-01-23 11:20
He didn't win any major, which makes your initial statement fall flat. S1mple didn't even get close to tarik in this aspect. He was rendered completely useless in the grand final.
2019-01-24 04:09
GOAT = greatest of ALL TIME, ALL TIME DUDE not 1 year lmao. He's cs god but not GOAT yet man
2019-01-23 11:21
2016 #4 2017 #8 2018 #1 He did get these ranks by not even being close to being in the best team and his stats in 2018 makes every player look like shit You can read more in #85 He is GOAT as the most SKILLED and most impactful player EVER
2019-01-23 11:22
He wont win win MAJOR bookmark this
2019-01-23 11:24
Here is the salty d2vice fan that trash talked so much and said S1mple wont be #1 LUL
2019-01-23 11:26
That was just baiting stuff, I knew top1 simple for long time ago
2019-01-23 11:27
What do u mean? All hltv users are pro and goat , most importantly we all are better than s1mple
2019-01-23 11:27
Maybe i get 60+ kills every game
2019-01-23 11:31
#98
Turkey mtdN 
no Major, just a #1 of 2018 and call him GOAT? Coldzera has 2 major, two #1 and you call him baitzera? NT, flag checks out braindead.
2019-01-23 11:27
HLTV guy basicly said that device in 2018 was better than coldzera in 2016 and 2017 Good teams win majors and titles coldzera had 4(+him) players in top 20 while 3 of them was in top 5 during their time and how much did coldzera win in 2018 how many MVP's did coldzera get in 2018 when fer and FalleN no longer played as top 5 players You need a great team behind you to win a lot of titles thats why Astralis is winning they have 5 top 20 players while 4 of them are in top 10 S1mple make all of these players look like shit
2019-01-23 11:33
You are trying to compare others with s1mple according to 2018 If s1mple had been GOAT, he wouldn't have disappeared in Final of FACEIT Major 2018. He is so skilled but definitely not GOAT, not over olofmeister and coldzera
2019-01-23 11:48
LUL you clearly did not read about the device part huh
2019-01-23 11:49
You didn't read what I had written. He is not good as much as coldzera in finals and that makes him worse
2019-01-23 11:51
Lets see #1 Playoff rating at big events - Check #1 Final rating at big events - Check #1 Major rating - Check Playing against the by far best team and you lose and have bad rating is that something that is strange for you ? Just look at fucking coldzera in 2018 how good he did when he no longer had fer and FalleN at his side
2019-01-23 11:53
hltv.org/stats?startDate=all&matchType=M.. He was at least 3-4th his all Majors He is bigger player than s1mple about Majors which are the most important events of CSGO
2019-01-23 12:01
And how did it go for coldzera in 2018 again if i may ask ? I cant see him sadly is it because he no longer have that #1 team ? Strange
2019-01-23 12:03
"You are trying to compare others with s1mple according to 2018"
2019-01-23 12:05
Because that is his current prime and no player is close to it ?
2019-01-23 12:06
LOL Greatest of All Time
2019-01-23 12:59
you have clearly no idea at all what GOAT even means LMAO
2019-01-24 11:41
HLTV guy is just....HLTV guy.
2019-01-24 04:12
#101
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Spain elskio 
3rd major final chock inc in 2020 2016 0.6 2018 0.8 2020 ???
2019-01-23 11:27
no, fok you man
2019-01-23 11:31
NT S1mple #1 Playoff rating Final rating Major rating He had a bad grandfinal vs the best team make fun of that as much you can :3
2019-01-23 11:32
And he choked harder than device used to. Which is why you don't built a team around one player. Astralis used to do this with device. They changed it, and became succesful. Maybe Navi should copy this?
2019-01-24 04:14
AHDKXLDŞDNSÖDKSLS +1
2019-01-23 11:49
#113
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United Arab Emirates frequency8 
0 major nt
2019-01-23 11:35
coldzera 0 titles 0 MVP's in 2018 OMEGALUL device in 2018 confirmed as #1 player if he played in 2016 and 2017 over coldzera by the HLTV ranking guy LUL
2019-01-23 11:36
#125
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United Arab Emirates frequency8 
coldzera still with 2 major(2 major mvp) s1mple = OMEGALUL
2019-01-23 11:42
Cute good for him right Makes it more funny that S1mple shits on him so hard without a major MVP LUL
2019-01-23 11:43
#130
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United Arab Emirates frequency8 
y
2019-01-23 11:44
I think he will achieve much more and all the haters will finally shut their mouths to pay respect to one of the best players in this game, he just need a better team or some serious changes in Na'VI not only on the players level, but also to their approach to the game, yea, and mb s1mple should be less greedy with his peaks in-game sometimes, but without losing his insane confidence
2019-01-23 11:36
+1 but he needs to do these plays sometimes because he dont have 4 another top 20 players in his team like device does with Astralis
2019-01-23 11:37
true, that's why this shit needs to change, I want him to win big things, but he can't do that alone when his team struggles against tier 2-5 teams sometimes, he deserves better than just #1 in ranking, cause he is phenomenal player this scene has never seen and more likely won't see in future
2019-01-23 11:54
You two should get a room and where you can cuddle all night.
2019-01-24 04:15
I'm not gay, but nt
2019-01-24 11:56
*you hope* Fixed
2019-01-24 04:15
think/hope/wish... whatever
2019-01-24 11:58
device is GOAT
2019-01-23 11:38
goat=/= not top1 one year anyway achievements count also if you consider who is GOAT, simple achieved nothing, sry he achieved perfectionism in choking in major finals hahahah
2019-01-23 11:44
no major no GOAT. /closed
2019-01-23 11:38
#116
2019-01-23 11:39
makes no sense at all. dev1ce is a shitty player compared to s1mple, in terms of skill, but that doesnt make him the GOAT over players like olofmeister and coldzera. s1mple is by far the biggest statpadder of them all; (GTR, olof, cold) And you can't deny it.
2019-01-23 11:44
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-01-23 11:45
u can laugh all u want but its true. Major is the biggest achievement of the game CS:GO and he doesnt have it, how can he be the GOAT without winning the biggest thing a player can win? When his team most needed him he couldnt do shit. Isnt he the GOAT? So why he didnt win the match against astralis?
2019-01-23 11:49
He won vs a player that had 7 MVP's Major MVP 10 titles :3 And device that was ranked #2 is confirmed to be #1 if he played same year as coldzera in 2016 and 2017 LUL
2019-01-23 11:51
i dont understand your last sentence please speak in proper english. "He won vs a played that had 7 mvp" Did he? so why he has 0 major? CSGO is a team based game. If he can't carry, he is not GOAT just accept it. GOATs carry hard, he doesnt. If he did like every1 says, he'd have a major
2019-01-23 11:53
Are you stupid ? The guy that makes the HLTV ranks said that if device played the year 2016-2017 like he did now in 2018 he would be #1 over coldzera just proves how much better S1mple is compared to him LUL
2019-01-23 11:55
that doesnt make any sense. "IF HE HAD PLAYED" lol he didnt so wtf? IF HE HAD hahahahahahah. If FaZe had won Major olofmeister would be undisputed GOAT.
2019-01-23 11:58
From 17 events attended in the year, device collected 13 individual accolades (7 MVP and, 6 EVPs), a showcase of him being consistently great in 2018. With his surge late in the year, with five MVPs from seven events, he began to challenge for the title of the best performer in 2018. However, his amazing year, which would be worthy of the No.1 spot in any of the 2014-2017 rankings, simply wasn't enough in 2018.
2019-01-23 12:00
It's true, and you fake hahahahha doesn't change it. You are promoting a selfish statpadder with a history of cheating who is less than mediocre when it comes to teamplay. And that is a fucking fact.
2019-01-24 04:17
#126
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United Arab Emirates frequency8 
+1
2019-01-23 11:42
He is clear top 1 currently and his performance in 2018 is of a higher level than ever seen in the game especially considering the qualitative factors, but for me 'GOAT' is something that should be inherently indisputable and out doesn't even necessarily mean the most skilled player, although the most skilled player can be GOAT. I think S1mple has to put up this type of performance or higher for at least one more year, which may well make the majority of fans actually consider him the greatest ever. Until then there's really no point trying to force the issue. Accolades are overrated anyway.
2019-01-23 11:44
#141
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India PRKS9 
U are absolutely correct man s1mple has true raw skills and he proves it on every platform . He demolishes rank s players easily and even top class players. He is good with awp as well as rifle. He can clutch rounds make opening kills and most importantly he really enjoys playing that's what drives u to get better everyday. Ofcourse there are legends like niko cold device who are also good but impact wise s1mple outplays them I'm telling this point after seeing tons of s1mple's stream, pro matches.
2019-01-23 11:50
s1mple doesnt outplay cold. He had not played prime coldzera. When he did, got thrashed with a jumping awp shot that led them to major victory. NO MAJOR NO GOAT And i dont even like coldzera.
2019-01-23 11:54
#160
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India PRKS9 
I agree what u said but look deep into the playstyle of both players cold most of the time plays passive. He supports rifler makes mid round strata and helps in finishing the round. Whereas s1mple plays aggressively mostly and make opening kill sometimes he clutches. And if u are stating that cold outplayed him in major final then that was cold's prime. If we consider now as s1mple's prime then who's better tell me?
2019-01-23 12:00
NOW s1mple is better but thats a hard comparison since coldzera is sucking ass in a tier5 team like MIBR i hope they can comeback because i want to see both in prime facing each other. And playstyle doesnt really mean one is better than the other.
2019-01-23 12:17
he got top 1 when csgo died(2018), nt
2019-01-23 11:50
nice name
2019-01-23 12:18
#146
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
Nice joke, flusha is the goat
2019-01-23 11:51
+1
2019-01-23 12:05
BUT IS HE OLOFMEISTER??????? BUT HAS HE WON A MAJOR?????? BUT HAS HE WON MAJOR MVP?????? NO? SO NO GOAT.
2019-01-23 11:56
Nope he dont have major but he won against a player that won a major and 7 MVP's and 10 tiltes And that player ''device'' was confirmed to be #1 if he played in 2014 2015 2016 2017 over GTR olofmeister and coldzera , just proves how much better S1mple is LUL
2019-01-23 11:58
He won because he is more skilled, and no one doubts that. What is your point comparing him to Ecolai Reedtz? dev1ce is far from being GOAT or best player in the world. S1mple is better in every aspect no questioning. But DID HE WON MAJOR OR MAJOR MVP???????????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO therefore, can't be GOAT, plain and simple, CAN'T be something that big if you didnt win the biggest achievements of the GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019-01-23 12:01
From 17 events attended in the year, device collected 13 individual accolades (7 MVP and, 6 EVPs), a showcase of him being consistently great in 2018. With his surge late in the year, with five MVPs from seven events, he began to challenge for the title of the best performer in 2018. However, his amazing year, which would be worthy of the No.1 spot in any of the 2014-2017 rankings, simply wasn't enough in 2018.
2019-01-23 12:01
"WOULD BE" WOULD W-O-U-L-D
2019-01-23 12:02
haha so salty getting owned by the guy that makes the ranks LUL
2019-01-23 12:04
lol /closed after this statement
2019-01-23 12:16
You act like HLTV's ranking system is a holy indisputable truth.
2019-01-24 04:20
+1 for your name
2019-01-23 12:00
#172
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India PRKS9 
Ok so if s1mple wins major mvp then u will consider him as goat? Because according to u raw skill wise he's above all but he lacks major mvp that's it. We will see bruh
2019-01-23 12:09
MAJOR + MVP yeah pretty much? Because in raw skill he is the best i've ever seen, only NiKo comes close in these recent years. I didnt see f0rest some say he was pretty good in raw skill as well. He is a complete player he can play every role basically. But in terms of raw killing an enemy, fragging, head shots, exchanges. i mean 1on1 situations with no boxes to hide NiKo and s1mple are just gods. Its not like olof and cold who relies more on his absolute godlike gamesense and positioning. If he wins a major with NaVi aka weaker team and get major MVP he can be considered the GOAT because he has achieved everything that has to be achieved in the game + he is the most skileld player.
2019-01-23 12:15
18+ Dont look if you have a weak mind hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp..
2019-01-23 12:08
undestand something. stats doenst make u goat.
2019-01-23 12:15
also s1mple statpadder since zeus and edward said their system pretty much are to be played around s1mple, they bait for him EVERY TIMe and thats what ZEUS said, not me. OFC he will have boosted stats. i dont care if they bait for him tho this is part of the game but its undeniable that his stats are boosted because of NAVI's style
2019-01-23 12:20
HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH
2019-01-23 12:30
I'd say they are rather forced to play around him cause, except electronic, no one can do jack shit in this team Edward can't kill in the back sometimes and would you want to rely on the player like that?let him be a bait if that's the only good thing he's good for these days
2019-01-23 12:59
I are agree and its the best thing for them. But that implies on what? Stat boost.
2019-01-23 13:17
that's why he needs to leave or Na'Vi make some crucial changes in their roaster and approach to the game I also don't think his stats would suffer too much in an actually good team either if he continues his good form Edit: look at device's stats overall, he's in the best team, in which all members have good frag potential, plus he's not nearly as good skill-wise as s1mple
2019-01-23 13:39
IDK man, i think the best for him would be making roster changes on NaVi. Zeus will retire soon and so will Edward. I dont see any good IGL to join NaVi besides ange1. Their communication is also key in their winnings. s1mple w/o a IGL like Zeus or gla1ve would not be that crazy good. Even with good teammates like in FaZe I.E. I hope he goes to FaZe because i want to see super team xaaxaxaxxa but i dont think it'd work.
2019-01-23 13:45
S1mple needs to change his mentality to improve. That is his biggest hurdle, and if you can't see that, I would suspect you of being very delusional.
2019-01-24 04:22
the key problem is his team, put any other player in the scene in s1mple's place in Na'Vi and they will fail hard for sure they decided to play around him by themselves and no wonder when 3 of them not even on a tier1 level in individual skill yea, s1mple has some flaws but they are minor compared to this and to be honest, he can change his approach to the game if the team requires to, but in Na'Vi it's easier for them this way
2019-01-24 12:07
Yes yes, just as it happened to mouse when Niko left, who is generally (s1mple fanboys aside) is seen as less toxic than s1mple. You really don't want him to win a major, do you? acting like his teamplay is good, acting like he is a good teammate.
2019-01-25 04:49
well, this is another reason for him to leave to different team where a strong leader, doesn't matter if this is captain or coach, would show him his primary role and encourage him to play more structured style.. kane and zeus let him do everything he wants and feel comfortable with that, he won't just change everything by himself tho
2019-01-25 11:39
+1
2019-01-23 12:10
#174
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
s1mple is only the best player of 2018, not "off all-time", that is entirely your opinion. There are players out there with far more accolades and history-defining moments, s1mple is just one of these people. Do not overrate illogically as fanaticism ignores logic entirely.
2019-01-23 12:12
NT
2019-01-23 12:18
#184
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"NT" is a crude and redundantly abbreviated term for "nice try". What exactly am I trying here with my post other than attempting to drill logic into those fanatic?
2019-01-23 12:21
What im saying is that S1mple is the GOAT in terms of skill and the impact he has in his team compared to any player before He is the GOAT as the BEST PLAYER You cant name a player that have been at his level like he was in 2018 and if you try you just lie to yourself You can act that 1 more year or even a major or two would make you a ''better'' player just because of that
2019-01-23 12:23
#216
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"What im saying is that S1mple is the GOAT in terms of skill and the impact he has in his team compared to any player before" What you are doing is overrating his standard to suit that of your own... Exactly the same of Brazilians and Coldzera during 2016 and 2017. s1mple is undoubtedly the best player in the world as of right now and there is no question about it. However that doesn't equate to "all-time", that is entirely subjective. "He is the GOAT as the BEST PLAYER" "GOAT"/"BOAT" is an acronym for "Greatest Of All-Time"/"Best Of All-Time", therefore referring to all iterations counter-strike as a whole. CS:GO-wise, s1mple is definitely up there as the best player ever, but it's still down to ones own opinion, it isn't factual. His statistics are the best ever of 2018, not 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 or 2017... "You cant name a player that have been at his level like he was in 2018 and if you try you just lie to yourself" This is more arrogance shrouded within fanaticism... It's also paradoxical because no I cannot name a player better than s1mple "currently" because there is nobody better than s1mple "currently". I am not lying to anybody by stating logic, you are simply ignoring it in favour of fanaticism alone. "You can act that 1 more year or even a major or two would make you a ''better'' player just because of that" I never once "acted" like anything apart from choose logic over bias. You should do the same... I'll reiterate once more: s1mple is obviously and undoubtedly the best player there is as of right now, but to state "all-time" is entirely subjective, not factual. Have a good day.
2019-01-23 15:45
Did not read Both you and i know that there have never been a player that have been more skilled and a more carry than S1mple :3 You need to be delusional and add team wins to say he is not GOAT in terms of skill as the best player sad
2019-01-23 19:40
What you are saying is that s1mple is GOAT, PERIOD. All this other shit you added when people rightfully speak against him being GOAT. Just call him, and offer that blowjob to him, would you?
2019-01-24 04:24
he just needs a better team that's all and mb change a bit his approach to the game in some moments other than that you won't find a better player out there
2019-01-23 12:53
#217
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Again, today there is no better player out there... That isn't what I stated at all. I was referring entirely to the "all-time" bait that is there primarily to trigger responses of transgression and aggression; neither of mine suit the aforementioned because I am not replying as a triggered user, I am merely applying logic where none is applicable.
2019-01-23 15:47
yes, I get that. I just wanted to point out that, as you said, s1mple isn't GOAT cause lack of achievements and all that stuff, but he has the potential to become one or at least gain the status of the legendary player although, as I mentioned in my first comment, he can't do it alone or with this current Na'Vi roaster. No way you can become GOAT and gain achievements when your team lacking both in strategical and skill (or aim) aspects. That's just how it is.
2019-01-23 16:07
#219
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I completely agree. :) A fair statement devoid of biased fanaticism and just logical thoughts. :)
2019-01-23 16:10
thank you! I wanted to edit my comment with pointing out some s1mple's flaws as well, but I'm glad you agreed with my overall vision of the situation. Have a nice day :)
2019-01-23 16:14
#221
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Have a nice day, friend. :)
2019-01-23 16:18
+1 It's hard to argue against the potential.
2019-01-24 04:25
He needs more time and GOAT counts achievements
2019-01-23 12:38
report for calling Simple goat
2019-01-23 13:09
+1
2019-01-23 13:19
report for a stupid report jk
2019-01-23 13:42
yea and f0rest is chess player
2019-01-23 15:16
S1mple was the best player in 2018. But GOAT? No. That would be f0rest.
2019-01-23 15:20
And his 2018 year makes every another #1 look like shit and he did that by not even being in the #1 team Even device as #2 was confirmed to be better than 2014 #1 GTR 2015 #1 olofmeister 2016 #1 coldzera 2017 #1 coldzera
2019-01-23 19:42
I'm not talking about one websites view of opinion, I mean as a whole, f0rest and GeT_RiGhT are the GOATs of Counter-Strike. S1mple has played pro CS for like 3 years, GTR and f0rest has played it for 15+ years. Let's see where S1mple is in 12 years.
2019-01-23 21:39
Never said CS i said this game And f0rest is GOAT for me if you count everything but even then he is not at the same level of S1mple as the most skilled player thats what im just talking about GOAT in terms of highest skilled carry player ever
2019-01-23 21:42
I still think that 2013 NiP would rape 2018 Astralis, so I don't think S1mple is #1 of all time.
2019-01-23 23:33
He would not GTR stats droped so fast when CSGO started to get more serious and more teams started to play
2019-01-23 23:38
NiP's 87-0 and GTR's 2 #1 slots are not from a lack of good teams, my friend. That is from the greatest minds of CS.
2019-01-23 23:43
LUL
2019-01-23 23:44
"All in all, it was a historic year that likely ranks as the best ever by any player in Counter-Strike history in a calendar year..." - hltv considering that device beat gtr's 2013 record for # mvps, and s1mple played better than him, i would argue that s1mple is the GOAT
2019-01-24 03:38
Like I said earlier, let's see where S1mple is in 12 years. f0rest and GTR are LEGENDS, S1mple is just a rising star.
2019-01-24 11:32
Also it's not like HLTV is an official part of CS.
2019-01-24 11:33
Dude, it's 100% logic that a player who has 2-3 players constantly baiting for him is basically being statpadded, and the players baiting will get lower rating than if they didn't bait for him nonstop. But hey, fanboyism and logic aren't very good friends in Ukraine I guess.
2019-01-24 04:28
i dont think there can be a "GREATEST OF ALL TIME" when the era of the game is not even over yet.
2019-01-23 19:41
Yes and no I know people like to call some1 GOAT when they have won a lot and played for a long time People like to call Astralis as GOAT team now because they won a lot of events in 2018 even tho Fnatic still have won more and won back to back majors they also won 10 events in 2015 i think but still people like to call Astralis GOAT now Why cant i say the same with S1mple is is clearly better than any player ever how he played in 2018 he makes every another #1 player look like shit and that is what im trying to say im just talking about how good he is as a player how skilled he is as a individual and a carry for his team No another player have been as talanted as S1mple and thats why he is GOAT in terms of skill
2019-01-23 19:48
You're making a good point, you can't really know who's the GOAT until the game is over, unless you change it year after year, which we as humans do with everything.
2019-01-23 23:34
most skilled player in CS yet by far
2019-01-23 19:43
+1 thats that im trying to say he is GOAT in terms of most skilled and best individual player If people wanna add on major win and all that something GOOD teams win sure go ahead and im sure he will some day when he gets into a better team that dont drag him down
2019-01-23 19:49
#229
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Brazil spaark1 
no, you fucking fangay cocksucker
2019-01-23 21:40
HAHA
2019-01-23 21:44
but you are?
2019-01-24 04:28
expected from baitzera fangirls :> S1mple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 Baitzeras
2019-01-23 23:41
if we need a goat here so basically GTR will be right choice. s1mple has some talent for sure but he was never drunk enough to goin' A, this is a fact thought.
2019-01-23 23:48
f0rest
2019-01-24 04:22
#266
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Estonia beesti 
The GOAT in every real sport wins at least one championship though
2019-01-24 05:29
#267
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Brazil Collee 
He never even played for a top 1 team. There's at least 30 players who should be called "goat" before him. All goats in sports and esports played for a top 1 team at least once in their careers, no exceptions
2019-01-24 05:48
#269
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Denmark Cleandog 
He for sure is a great player but until he bags a major (or actually 2) he will be just that, great. CS GO is a team effort and if your are just a great individual you only look at 50% of a player value. Let us see if he can perform on the greatest scene with multiple majors and then we can consider GOAT.
2019-01-24 07:55
do you know his mouse grip? I could see from one of his videos that he is either using palm or fingrtip grip. Why this is of importance to me is because I got gifted a mouse that he'd been using or is currently using (fk1+). Thanks!
2019-01-24 07:59
Not sure if troll but if not thats cool , but no im not sure never had that on my mind
2019-01-25 03:14
#273
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Ukraine mpletop1 
2019 #1 s1mple
2019-01-24 09:00
+1
2019-01-25 02:25
#276
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Turkey drizit 
hltv should bring new features such as "block 'username'" , "block 'username''s all topics"... We don't have it, do we?
2019-01-24 11:36
You mad ?
2019-01-25 02:25
#305
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Turkey drizit 
I am not mad, s1mple is one of my favourite player right now and it's a pleasure to watch him play. However, calling somebody goat is a hard commitment. And calling s1mple goat is just stupid at the moment.
2019-01-25 14:42
While i'm not exactly sure S1mple is the G.O.A.T (yet). I'm certain it's not Get_Right. Had Get_Right retired before NiP fell to the depths then probably but he's damaged his own legacy beyond repair at this point. There is no debate for him to be the G.O.A.T with him being a mid-tier at best player for the past maybe 3 years.
2019-01-25 04:40
#303
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Ukraine DNNNS 
If we talk about highest peak: 1. S1mple 2. Olof 3/4. Cold/Getright
2019-01-25 10:53
idk why ur sleeping on cold, he was def better than GTR. GTR is crazy overrated. If you are actually good at the game go play in silver 1, you will look like s1mple because their positioning sucks and makes your aim better. GTR looked good for his time but put his 2014 form in 2017 and sure he would be top 5, but both NiKo and cold would outclass him. Maybe even rain late 2018 (2nd half of 2018 rain had higher peak than Fer, if it was just 2nd half he wouldve deserved 3rd that year)
2019-01-26 04:13
S1mple is nothing compared to these real goats youtube.com/watch?v=n7cDMi6Jx_0
2019-01-26 03:54
I guess most of the people dont know this but, "SIMPLE" won the 2018 ESports PC player of the year award and DEVICE was not even nominated. :-)
2019-01-26 04:34
Maybe the creator of this thread is Just retatd
2019-01-26 12:44
vodkaslayer (OP) is by far the most retarded low iq ukranian s1mple fanboy out there. Constantly making topics about s1mple deserving #1 and now that he won it, he continues to make threads about "s1mple GOAT!!". Ukranian fans are even worse than BR fans when SK were dominating. All you do is prove to everyone what a nolife clueless silver you are :(
2019-01-26 12:51
2019-01-26 12:53
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