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FaZe wtf is happening
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Poland Astoner55 
Probably the most skilled team, but they suck tbh lol how is this possible
2019-01-25 22:19
#1
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Brazil Fallenzera 
it doesnt matter skills when no good brain to igl
2019-01-25 22:21
#14
twist | 
United States Aidoge 
If they cant beat ghost why do you expect them to beat c9?
2019-01-25 22:44
Ghost > C9 imo
2019-01-26 09:05
In terms of skill ceiling definitely not. In my opinion Flusha was the best player of 2014. And autimatic, kio, and Rush obviously have high skill ceilings.
2019-01-26 09:13
#28
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
And zellsis has his first chance to prove himself
2019-01-26 09:23
So far so good from him
2019-01-26 10:09
#68
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Korea XigNw0w 
He is just a stand-in no pressure
2019-01-26 11:26
#67
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France TROIIDA 
american players LUL
2019-01-26 11:20
#76
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
"was" Ye Xizt was top6 in 2013, he is so amazing in fnatic!!! fnatic > faze
2019-01-26 11:55
hello its 2019
2019-01-26 13:51
I just think C9 has a better chance of being good than Ghost. That's pretty obvious if you think about it.
2019-01-26 22:52
#34
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United States Jamila 
No
2019-01-26 09:31
#20
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Italy Enrico_Fermi 
and YNK as coach
2019-01-26 09:02
Nik0_major is overrated and Dosnt fit IGL role FaZe in 2019 lul
2019-01-26 09:49
#2
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Turkey plagueis 
most skilled team rofl nice joke
2019-01-25 22:22
#4
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia Ajko 
fan of smooya oh no
2019-01-25 22:23
#6
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Turkey plagueis 
nt bot guardian
2019-01-25 22:24
#9
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia Ajko 
bot ? only one player who was in top 20 every year lul NT fan of toxic smooya
2019-01-25 22:36
#16
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Europe god_of_hltv 
smooya = Young up and coming talent Guardian = old man who needs to retire
2019-01-26 08:54
>27 >old
2019-01-26 08:59
#18
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Hungary TiboRr 
ROFL
2019-01-26 09:01
smooya = shit player on shit team who thinks he's good. Nice try tho
2019-01-26 09:26
Smooya >1.00 rating >talent
2019-01-26 13:40
*cough* device *cough*
2019-01-26 10:10
#55
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Device hasnt been on every top 20
2019-01-26 10:31
device was not on the top20 in 2013 but probably one of the most consistent since he has been top5 the last 4 years
2019-01-26 11:31
You mean 2013 where most of the players were still in transition from css to csgo? Nah we can Chuck that out
2019-01-26 13:32
that was 2012 and thats why there was no top20 in 2012, any other arguments?
2019-01-26 13:33
They didn't have the top20 in 2012 and 2013 was irrelevant cuz everyone except NiP was new to the scene.
2019-01-26 13:37
+1
2019-01-26 11:05
faze weak team
2019-01-25 22:23
#5
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Denmark bulldosia 
most inconsistent team ever. they will never be top1 or even top2 when they rely on star players having a good day instead of solid tactics.
2019-01-25 22:23
#7
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Israel wetz 
teamwork>skill
2019-01-25 22:24
#8
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Brazil davidzor 
It just shows the importance of an IGL.
2019-01-25 22:26
who cares lol? U can get 5 s1mples in ur team, but teamwork will always>>>>>>>>>>>>>individual skills. Deal with it.
2019-01-25 22:39
I bet if you got 5 players as good as s1mple it would be top 1 team. But having like 5 nikos or something wouldn't cut it. Too bad theres no one else that is as good as s1mple lel.
2019-01-25 22:41
Excep for Device
2019-01-26 09:51
1. S1mple 2. Device Close, but not right there
2019-01-26 15:14
Bullshit, who simple can't bait himself. Every player in FaZe is better than astralias players, apart from maybe dupreeh. Don't link me stats because ast player stats are inflated by their impeccable teamwork.
2019-01-26 10:19
This! +GAZiLLiONBiLLiON
2019-01-26 10:22
#60
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
lul dont link u because u wrote some bull shit??
2019-01-26 10:50
You're a fucking retard if you think that.
2019-01-26 15:13
#11
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Turkey Thunderball 
what do you mean with most skill? LUL
2019-01-25 22:41
#15
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Poland Astoner55 
Show me a team that has more individual skill.
2019-01-26 08:47
wtf? rain is washed up, olof is average, guardian isn’t nearly as good as he used to be, adren wasn’t exactly the biggest fragger late into his gambit career and niko is niko. liquid, astralis, even fucking mibr has more firepower
2019-01-26 09:04
+1
2019-01-26 09:05
#25
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Poland Astoner55 
Rain is showing signs of being washed up, Olof is a great CT side anchor and a really good lurker on the T side, Guardian has fallen off massivelly, true, but he still hits the shots he needs to hit, Adren showed that he's still capable of playing well... they still have the skill, but they simply cannot make it work.
2019-01-26 09:08
#50
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Sweden toddn 
guardian is ranked 11 LUL
2019-01-26 10:16
#26
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India SupratimO8 
bro i get your point but just to add astralis is known for the whole team work but not individual skill
2019-01-26 09:11
Stay salty Choke Clan fan
2019-01-26 10:12
Washed up barely exists, lack of motivation and lack of team synergy has the biggest impact on form. Astralias don't have a player better than the whole of faze line up apart from dupreeh and maybe device. Shroud was the king of rank S because he was confident and comfortable in that play style, there are far more variables than just adding the best players into one line up,. Remember when FaZe first formed people thought they'd never lose a game, after the their honeymoon was over they proved what has been true since the birth of CS, super star players don't equal success in a team game. Gambit won a major, VP won a major, confidence and Teamplay can do amazing things to frag ability. If FaZe ever hit beast mode they'd be the best team of all time without a doubt,but it's impossible with the conflicting play styles and multinational. This isn't only special to CS it's all team sports. If FaZe had a clue they'd kick Niko because he just plays for individual ego reasons, every team he's left that team ends up performing better.
2019-01-26 10:46
+1
2019-01-26 11:01
+1
2019-01-26 10:43
+adren +ynk -skills
2019-01-25 22:41
-brain
2019-01-26 10:13
washed players, poor IGL.
2019-01-26 09:02
-niko +fox faze era ezpz
2019-01-26 09:05
#90
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Europe Very_SOAD_Fan 
+1
2019-01-26 13:57
#29
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United States JustBitsy 
I remember when everyone said "-karrigan, +anyone"
2019-01-26 09:25
#35
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Other Mukade 
Also remember we are on HLTV.. home coaches know best.
2019-01-26 09:33
#74
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Brazil davidzor 
Yea, just look now everyone typing -rain.
2019-01-26 11:53
#82
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Other Mukade 
He is playing dogshit tho. Seems like he lost his edge.. getting caught off guard so many times. Its really werid
2019-01-26 13:36
#86
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Brazil davidzor 
Cannot argue with that. I agree. However give him more time. Everyone dont play their best after player-break.
2019-01-26 13:49
#98
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Other Mukade 
He has been bad for 6 months now. Which is sad.. i like him as a player. I hope he someone gets revitalized and gets back in his Mojo. He was fucking insane
2019-01-26 17:31
#102
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United States JustBitsy 
Yeah rain has been off, someone has gotta play the bad roles, make info plays, play bomb and such. Maybe they have him defaulted to it? I haven't been watching much of them.
2019-01-26 21:34
#104
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Brazil davidzor 
I don't think he has been bad for 6 months. Of course not in the form he was in 2017. His best year. But overall as an entry fragger and site anchor he has been doing his job. Some games good others bad. Just recently he has been really lackluster. Anyway, time will tell what is gonna happen.
2019-01-26 22:14
#109
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Other Mukade 
He played good on train tho :D
2019-01-26 22:34
that happens when you kick prolly the only good igl you can get, fkn idiots faze
2019-01-26 09:26
#32
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United Kingdom Xfolo 
-adren +karrigan, get themselves a good igl, i think karrigan+ynk will work much better
2019-01-26 09:29
AdreN needs a money to live. Europeans already are rich, let the poor people earn a money.
2019-01-26 09:51
They have on paper the most skill but in game its not doing a lot because guardian and rain are nowhere near star levels of play.Niko is doing good(though he could be better without igl-ing),olof is just meh. They are obviously not going to be any good iwhen the one thing they were good at -firepower- isnt there
2019-01-26 09:41
#40
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Belgium M4RTEN 
i feel so facking red
2019-01-26 09:51
because all players are just aimers
2019-01-26 10:00
What is this everyone was like "when do you finally kick kurrigan" now everyone is like "why would you kick karrigan he was the brain" People get your life together
2019-01-26 10:08
#45
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Czech Republic Regon 
Karrigan was that problem
2019-01-26 10:11
It's because YNk and NiKo are both ultra toxic. So they destroy the team together now
2019-01-26 10:13
rain is the problem. Get back karrigan and -rain + cromen
2019-01-26 10:15
saving strat like every event
2019-01-26 10:21
2019-01-26 10:29
+1 they need a real IGL and not NiKo, NiKo always 2v8
2019-01-26 10:33
#59
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Turkey zootxD 
you're right
2019-01-26 10:44
it would be better if niko played with his team instead of waiting for them to die and playing for exit kills
2019-01-26 11:58
That’s a meme, NiKo isn’t a designated exit fragger unlike other ”top” players
2019-01-26 14:19
Nikosports recreated under the NiKo Clan banner
2019-01-26 10:51
"most skilled team" ok. skill is dynamic and relative. being top5 player in one year (rain for example) doesnt make you to one of the most skilled guys ever and forever. Players can lose skill and other players can increase skill. you should start to deal with it that your "star hyper skill team" doesnt have the most skilled players. if hltv ranked players every 6 months (for example july-jan) , Niko would propably be the only one in top20.
2019-01-26 10:54
Yea and imagine... that this team cant win a MAJOR.... Major trophies - ZERO ... HOW??? Bought every best player from europen teams : Guardian , olof, rain , niko and still be Second... or even worse
2019-01-26 11:03
Adren is ok The other 3 are past prime so the “so much firepower/skill” argument doesn’t really hold Only niko consistent. I think it’s more of a teamwork issue/communication than anything, NOT AN IGL ISSUE. Igl can’t micromanage every flash/smoke/push etc. Most of their flashes are garbage and they’re not coordinated or playing off of each other anymore. Really no chemidtry right now.
2019-01-26 11:21
#69
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Other khorkalba 
1. Olofmeister and Guardian were long past their 2015 prime even before FaZe signed them. 2. Rain is overrated and in 2017 was perhaps the best example of "end of year form bias" on HLTV. 3. AdreN has been in a slump for over a year now and has to re-learn CS in another language. 4. NiKo still seems in fairly good form but isn't completely immune to IGL skill drop-off.
2019-01-26 11:27
#75
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France 0racle 
+1
2019-01-26 11:54
niko only getting good stats because of baiting
2019-01-26 11:57
#88
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Russia baryga007 
lol do you actually watch faze's games? Wait, i know the answer! You don't LOL
2019-01-26 13:56
i try sometimes but then i see how they play and i stop watching
2019-01-26 14:04
Should have kept GodAllu
2019-01-26 11:31
#72
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Germany Constikdw 
Honestly, they should definitely sign an igl. Niko is god Tier Player but a shitty igl. Imo they should definitely sign golden when he comes back from illness and c9 doesn’t want him anymore. Good igl and the other 4 can do what they used to do. They should also consider getting rid of rain/Olof and get a young and fresh player like Amanek
2019-01-26 11:37
#73
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Brazil candymau 
Just like SK. TACO (karrigan) was not the problem.
2019-01-26 11:40
they have shit teamwork and no brains
2019-01-26 11:56
#85
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Ukraine mpletop1 
most skilled team? with bots guardian and rain? OMEGALUL
2019-01-26 13:41
#89
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Germany Merkelistan 
Nik0 igl
2019-01-26 13:57
Niko is incredibly skilled, rain and guardian are inconsistent, olof is average and adren is just the newest addition to the team. Don't expect wonders fron them to work perfectly as a team in such a short time.
2019-01-26 14:09
#94
Aleksib | 
India ketanY 
NiKo is the problem
2019-01-26 14:21
I see NiKo as one of the best players in CSGO.. But. Using NiKo as the IGL when hes clearly the best fragger in the team, its like they want him to stay toxic. If they dont get used to this soon they should consider Another IGL, even if Adren seem to do good in the few games we seen.
2019-01-26 15:17
NiKo igl makes himself play a lot better because he has the team play around him, but then everyone else underperforms. Just look at what happened to mouz the moment he left. NiKo is actually the problem and he's destroying the team the same way shox destroyed g2. It doesnt matter how good he is if he makes shitty decisions outside the game that ruin the team.
2019-01-26 17:34
LOL. Niko took over IGLing cause nobody else was competent enough (Same with Shox) & chose to give up their obvious advantage when it comes to firepower to hopefully make the team better. Obviously neither has worked out but Niko is the farthest thing from the problem on that team, even while IGLing.
2019-01-26 22:22
#111
cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
" Just look at what happened to mouz the moment he left" You mean they kicked the bots like Denis, spiidi and lowel and got some decent players instead? Well shit, I wonder how they got better.
2019-01-26 22:55
Been saying it for a while, FaZe keep kicking people like kioshima or karrigan but the true problem of FaZe is rain. He's been bad for more than a year now and never shows up when it matters. At the Major too, he was afk the entire time. NiKo + Guardian are the ones still having impact on this team and they need a 3rd player who can frag. Olof and adren won't do that for you. The only way FaZe will ever be good is when they pick up a proper IGL with a consistent fragger. -karrigan -niko -guardian -kioshima -valde SHOULD have been FaZe by now but that's more than likely never happening because FaZe think they can get good by picking up 5 starplayers. I hope FaZe will leave the CSGO scene and I hope for NiKo to return to mousesports because damn Mousesports can actually be good then with ropz and sunny.
2019-01-26 17:39
- Karrigan is just like pronax right now, look at past event it's obvious he don't have the level to play in tier 1 team - Kio is a great player but Olof is way better in any aspect of the game - Valde over Rain i agree but maybe Rain have a big impact inside the game so i can't tell
2019-01-26 22:18
Karrigan, I might agree. he's not there fragwise whatsoever as of late. Kio, I don't agree. Olof hasn't been good since his departure with fnatic. Kio has always been a smart player and is one of the best aimers in the world still. Valde, He's definitely better than rain at this point and has quite a bit of impact. Recently rain hasn't really had impact in my opinion, he's been choking.
2019-01-27 00:47
Exactly. They built a super team that wasn't even really a super team at the time. Olof was declining like crazy, as was Rain. Niko has consistently gotten somewhat better whereas Guardian has been the opposite. Going from top 2-3 AWPer (Pre S1mple main AWPing) to bottom 10.
2019-01-26 22:20
guardian cant play when all 4 of his teammates are just fraghunting. He needs a support next to him, he gets 0 support from his teammates at this point. Its rather sad to see such a great awper suffer from such a bad team.
2019-01-27 00:43
Can agree with this. But also feel like he won't reach his previous heights. Hopefully he gets a good team around him that he fits well with, along with kennyS. Need those legends back on top.
2019-01-27 23:02
FaZe is overrated since age. What would you expect with NiKo igl?
2019-01-26 21:35
Most skilled team is definitely not FaZe. Olof hasn't been a top 10 player since he was #1 & took too much time off to ever reach those heights again. Guardian has been pretty overrated the past year imo. Niko is a god but can't carry the load himself while IGL-ing. AdreN is good but not even top 30 in the world imho. Rain is a great player but has been far too inconsistent & doesn't play a large enough role on the team to really shine like he should. The team was built to be amazing but all the players were great years ago. The only one consistently holding his ground is Niko & the others aren't likely to be top 5 again.
2019-01-26 22:18
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