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Eleague is trash.
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United States Scvboy1 
Maps C9 won vs Faze - 3 Maps FaZe won vs C9 -2 Guess who win the title? Joke of a format.
2019-01-28 04:19
#1
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United States Scvboy1 
Above ^
2019-01-28 04:19
wrong
2019-01-28 04:35
If it’s not the major or premiere then it’s not a serious comp. this is the same as clash for cash or blast pro
2019-01-28 05:30
+1 high iq opinion
2019-01-28 07:15
#124
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Europe SimonRed 
Faze just baited Clown9
2019-01-28 08:19
Yeah I thought the final would be a bo5 with C9 having a 1 map advantage
2019-01-28 08:45
any format with a loser bracket is trash.
2019-01-28 04:20
loser bracket is the best format, so if the best 2 teams meet early, we can still see them in the final
2019-01-28 04:20
#10
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
that's the problem
2019-01-28 04:21
i don't see any problem, imagine astralis having a bad 1st game so they will leave without a 2nd chance ?
2019-01-28 04:22
#18
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
astralis is playing boring cs so i dont mind them going out of a tournament instantly
2019-01-28 04:23
#34
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Mad cuz bad
2019-01-28 04:27
They should stop doing double-elimination cuz ZAE^ hates it. Everything is for him.
2019-01-28 04:43
#89
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
mad goatfucker <3
2019-01-28 04:54
Didn't know that ur mother was goat
2019-01-28 20:13
Didn’t know my mother were a goat either
2019-01-28 21:43
Damn bruh, you got him good.
2019-01-28 23:52
Boring for u perhaps, the fundamental level of skill it takes to coordinate as a team on that level and their individual mechanical skill levels are so high its beautiful to see. U might like the ultra 1 guy going batshit insane but that's mostly not what wins u CS matches, teamwork does that for u.
2019-01-28 05:25
#97
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
i know that i mean i've been tired out on cs in general also the issue with astralis is that it's not fun to watch them because they rarely lose and it's not like you learn anything new either i mean some years ago you learnt new stuff for example fnatic boost on overpass and stuff like that, i guess i just outgrow this game idk xd
2019-01-28 05:27
Pro scene needs a bigger map pool.
2019-01-28 05:31
yeah or some kind of rotation atleast you know bring in tuscan cpl_mill season a new cbble remake etc etc would make people feeling hyped to watch games again
2019-01-28 05:38
Do u realize mastering even 5 maps is a task nearly no team in history has accomplished? even the dominant fnatic didn't have 5 maps down they just were absurd at winning the clutch moments & the skill ceiling on 2 of their players was at a all time peak at the time they were so dominant that they made it work some how.
2019-01-28 05:59
You only have to be good on 3 maps. 9 maps in the pool just means deciders would be more random and bo5 pick/bans become relevant
2019-01-28 06:10
Said no one ever
2019-01-28 06:57
hahAAAA people have now came to the conclusion that this is a strictly opinion-based discussion.
2019-01-28 04:24
#33
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
Ofc.
2019-01-28 04:27
#69
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United States Scrub_Disney 
I like loser bracket as long as winners bracket has some advantage. It doesnt make sense for a team to be tied with a team in Bo3s and lose the finals
2019-01-28 04:38
map pick, and they dont need to show up/wake up as early as the team coming from losers
2019-01-28 04:57
#91
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United States Scrub_Disney 
that would be fair i posted something similar in a thread i made, I dont like map advantages to be honest
2019-01-28 05:14
true
2019-01-28 05:21
#93
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United States Scrub_Disney 
Was still a great match either way GGs -A slightly salty C9 Fanboy
2019-01-28 05:22
Faze played 6 maps today, two of which reached the 30th round (vs BIG), Cloud9 definitely had an advantage
2019-01-28 05:24
#96
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United States Scrub_Disney 
just stating my opinion also look at #93 lol
2019-01-28 05:25
Never said you were wrong or anything, I'm just saying that FaZe essentially played a BO6 today since the break between the matches was only 15 minutes lol
2019-01-28 05:27
#99
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United States Scrub_Disney 
Yea, I know it just doesnt feel right that FaZe would have had to lose two Bo3s to lose and C9 only had to lose one, but mad respect for how much they played and what they accomplished cant take it away from them
2019-01-28 05:28
True, the experience behind some of Faze's players like Olof and Guardian (on train especially) REALLY made a difference, absolute legends. Keep your hopes up though, Cloud9's future looks incredibly promising and frankly I've no doubt they will dethrone Liquid as NA's best team. GGs mate
2019-01-28 05:35
#103
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United States Scrub_Disney 
I am a little skeptical that we will topple Liquid but my hopes are back for a solid contender in international tournets (making it past groups and challenging teams in Bo3's) and doing well at the upcoming major. Cheers mate
2019-01-28 05:36
#127
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Lithuania arres 
Makes sense for 8 or more team tournament but is it realy needed for 4 teams?
2019-01-28 08:30
no
2019-01-28 04:20
#15
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United States Scvboy1 
Why?
2019-01-28 04:23
loser bracket is the best format, so if the best 2 teams meet early, we can still see them in the final
2019-01-28 04:23
#26
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United States Scvboy1 
If the 2 best teams play early then the best team better win. Simple.
2019-01-28 04:25
#108
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Belgium Kakibrun 
You're missing the point entirely
2019-01-28 06:31
ikr, thats exactly why dota 2 always have good finals except for ti4, because at the end of the day, the 2 best teams in the tournament will meet in the final, meanwhile in csgo, they can meet in quarters and we have boring final.
2019-01-28 09:14
#126
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CIS ShimonSS 
but it gives a teams a feeling of safety, like we can still get through the lower brackets, sometimes I feel that it would be more intruigin with single elimination on tourneys
2019-01-28 08:27
FaZe won the most important match-up. Deserved.
2019-01-28 04:20
+1
2019-01-28 04:20
+1
2019-01-28 06:34
+1
2019-01-28 22:50
-1???
2019-01-28 23:25
Cry is free c9 fanboi
2019-01-28 04:20
#16
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United States Scvboy1 
I like OG so I hate C9, but it is true
2019-01-28 04:23
Why would you hate C9 because you like optic?
2019-01-28 04:24
#36
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United States Scvboy1 
They took two of our players and we had a rivalry in CoD before the left the game.
2019-01-28 04:27
"our players" LMAO Also the NA Optic team was trash and never achieved anything. Cry is free.
2019-01-28 04:28
#45
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Best Astralis in the Eleague finals as well as beating FaZe Clan
2019-01-28 04:29
Yeah that's one time lmao. Just because they fluked a couple of wins against decent teams doesn't mean they were good.
2019-01-28 04:30
#47
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United States Scvboy1 
*Won the first major event for an NA team in years, also finished top 2 in 3 out of 4 event* "Never did anything". Canadian brain.
2019-01-28 04:30
Oh wow they won 1 event. Top 1 team.
2019-01-28 04:31
#57
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United States Scvboy1 
They won another event 2 weeks before Eleague, and they also finished 2nd at a top teir even the next week lol. Then Stan left and everything fell apart after them major.
2019-01-28 04:33
They were a shit tier 2 (at best) NA team. They weren't even the best NA team when NA teams were all shit.
2019-01-28 04:35
#65
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United States Scvboy1 
"Shit tier 2". I think you mean number 2. hltv.org/ranking/teams/2017/january/23
2019-01-28 04:37
Wow they were in the top 5 for like a week. Great team.
2019-01-28 04:39
#72
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United States Scvboy1 
Top 3 for a month and then their IGL left after that lol. Most teams would be trash if they lost their IGL overnight and had to replace him with some wash up teir 12 trash. Like taking Glave off of Astalis and giving them Snappi.
2019-01-28 04:40
They were top 5 because they fluked an event win. That doesn't mean shit.
2019-01-28 04:41
#78
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United States Scvboy1 
Again you have no brain. They were top 2 in 3 of the last 4 LANS on 2016 (winning 2 of them) they qualified for the major, then got a trash draw and matched up against VP the Astralis (the two finalist). After that the IGL left.
2019-01-28 04:44
Now is a cool word.
2019-01-28 04:45
#81
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United States Scvboy1 
Now? Learn to spell
2019-01-28 04:44
I spelled it right? Wtf man?
2019-01-28 04:45
#84
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United States Scvboy1 
Cool edit
2019-01-28 04:47
Cry is free
2019-01-28 04:35
#67
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United States Scvboy1 
"Reply needs to have actual content"
2019-01-28 04:38
Cry harder burger king.
2019-01-28 04:39
#74
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United States Scvboy1 
>Canada > Calling someone else "burger". Lol
2019-01-28 04:41
You are a gross burger. US has way more obese people than Canada.
2019-01-28 04:42
>winning 1 event in the entire lifespan of a team makes them really good. USA brain.
2019-01-28 04:32
Also > Shits on Canadian intelligence > Favourite team had a Canadian igl OMEGALUL
2019-01-28 04:47
#41
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Idk I guess because C9 and Optic were tied for the best NA team back in late 2017 and he hasn’t seen a roster change post in 2 years
2019-01-28 04:29
Madddddddddddddddddddddddddd
2019-01-28 04:20
+1
2019-01-28 04:21
NA is trash
2019-01-28 04:21
#21
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United States Scvboy1 
But the best team in the world is from NA? Slavic brain checks out
2019-01-28 04:23
Forgot Astralis was NA. You right !
2019-01-28 04:25
#29
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United States Scvboy1 
Liquid is better than Astralis now.
2019-01-28 04:26
Nah not because you win a BO3 you are better. If they beat them again at the major I might consoder it.
2019-01-28 04:29
#50
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United States Scvboy1 
I know they have to beat them repeatedly but I'm pretty sure they will.
2019-01-28 04:31
#137
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Germany Ducarius 
Like north?
2019-01-28 09:28
Because they win one bo3 against astralis? So, if noname team win liquid, wil they become top 1?
2019-01-28 04:54
#30
Xyp9x | 
Indonesia Wawzloll 
liquid fluke keep dreaming NA boy
2019-01-28 04:26
#31
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United States Scvboy1 
I hope you say that after they win the major
2019-01-28 04:26
#32
Xyp9x | 
Indonesia Wawzloll 
as i said keep dreaming
2019-01-28 04:27
+1
2019-01-28 04:29
LOL DREAM
2019-01-28 04:29
#52
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United States Scvboy1 
Don't be mad because they passed the CIS trash team Navi, would not even be topm10 without simple.
2019-01-28 04:32
#56
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Canada Encry_pted 
+99999
2019-01-28 04:32
#12
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Kazakhstan aqua4kz 
ez 4 Godren
2019-01-28 04:21
#13
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
Yes that is how formats with grand finals work. thats like saying because g2 beat c9 in eleague major group stage they should auto win in quarter finals. NA brain.
2019-01-28 04:22
#42
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United States ferric 
Except you're comparing two completely different things... there was no fucking group stage this tournament. It was a 100% playoffs tournament that was double elimination for every team unless you were the team that won their two matches... Basically everyone else got a second chance except Cloud9
2019-01-28 04:29
#49
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
faze had to play an extra game though lol
2019-01-28 04:31
#104
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United States ferric 
What extra game? The one vs big? More like they had the opportunity to do it since the format is double elimination
2019-01-28 05:37
#143
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
having to play more games is harder autist
2019-01-28 21:47
#144
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United States ferric 
Delusional.
2019-01-28 22:47
#147
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
??? so ur saying c9 should have to play another game before the grand final even after going 2-0?
2019-01-28 23:21
#150
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United States ferric 
No, what I am saying is that Cloud9 should have some sort of advantage for not losing a single match...
2019-01-28 23:44
#151
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
they did, they didnt have to play another game right before grand finals...
2019-01-28 23:46
#152
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United States ferric 
That's not an advantage though.. like I said... delusional
2019-01-28 23:46
#153
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
yes it is?? cloud9 where in back room going over strats and practicing while faze where playing long game with big
2019-01-28 23:47
#155
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United States ferric 
That's not an advantage.. they're pro teams, they did all their strats and practice before the tournament. You know absolutely nothing about the pro scene if you think that an extra 2 hours of practice that late in the tournament does anything. Like I said, delusional.
2019-01-29 00:37
#156
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
Signed up 2017-10-05 talking btw
2019-01-29 00:53
My dude that's not how it works. If you lose a series to one team in the beginning of a tournament, not see that team again until you see them in the grand finals, and then beat them for the title, then you have won the event. the other team caught you first, and they didn't finish. Literally the last tournament before a major as well, not a lot of people care about the premier.
2019-01-28 04:23
#24
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United States Scvboy1 
I know but I'm saying the fact that it even can happen is dumb, there should be no losers bracket in CS.
2019-01-28 04:24
why not?
2019-01-28 04:32
#59
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United States Scvboy1 
You can have crap like this. A team loses more maps but still wins the event.
2019-01-28 04:34
C9 had every opportunity to win, but they choked at the end, it happens. Fair and square win.
2019-01-28 06:36
FaZe played 2 Bo3s in a row and won where it counted. Cry is free dumbass.
2019-01-28 04:24
#25
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United States Scvboy1 
Against a bunch of T4 trash teams and still lost more maps then 2nd place. Cry is free loser.
2019-01-28 04:25
I mean why would he cry? His team one, you lost. Face it bro, shit happens. If it happen the other way ariund you would not be crying.
2019-01-28 04:27
#37
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United States Scvboy1 
No I wouldn't be but the format is still dumb.
2019-01-28 04:28
Lol. Absolute retard doesn't know how tournament brackets work. NaVÍ won ESL cologne 2018 while playing 2X the number of maps Astralis did for top 4. FaZe won, c9 is shit, cry is free.
2019-01-28 04:29
#28
Luken | 
Argentina Tomaas 
With 4 teams, what format would you wanted? Group stage?
2019-01-28 04:26
#40
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United States Scvboy1 
I'd want them to cancel such a dumb tournomet, but if They had to play it then just make in single elimination on 1 day. It would save everyone time too.
2019-01-28 04:29
#58
Luken | 
Argentina Tomaas 
The event is made to watch and enjoy csgo, not to waste the less time possible. The tournament was tier low but it's an strategy to promove the eleague brand into 2019
2019-01-28 04:34
#62
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United States OREOBK10 
+1
2019-01-28 04:35
are you mentally challenged?
2019-01-28 04:32
#60
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United States Scvboy1 
Well you're from Norway so you likely are.
2019-01-28 04:34
If you really are from the US the you're in no position to roast anyone based on their nationality.
2019-01-28 04:50
#66
twice | 
Korea Tzuyu 
4 team tourney waste of time
2019-01-28 04:37
#68
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United States Scvboy1 
+1
2019-01-28 04:38
#73
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New Zealand rowdog 
how most tournaments these days happen, in the last blast pro c9 won the same as navi and beat navi, yet didn't make it too the final
2019-01-28 04:41
cry is free
2019-01-28 04:44
everyone knows only final matters for the title, lets not be illogical here.
2019-01-28 04:46
+1
2019-01-28 06:37
1954 FIFA World Cup h2h goals between West Germany vs Hungary Hungary -10 West Germany -6 guess who won the WC? #CryIsFree
2019-01-28 04:51
#111
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Cry is absolutely free. ESL One Cologne Maps G2 won vs. Na'Vi - 1 Maps Na'Vi won vs. G2 - 0 Stupid format smh
2019-01-28 06:38
I think tournaments need at least 8 teams to be engaging and interesting in general.
2019-01-28 06:51
#119
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France J0riS_ 
+1
2019-01-28 07:18
#120
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
4 teams could be interesting if they invited 4 of the teams in the top 5, but they invited BIG and CoL like wtf they could have invited astralis, na'vi,mouz,mibr,liquid and faze an event with these 6 teams would be great.
2019-01-28 07:26
guess it was meant for teams with roster changes could invite mibr tho or lulquid idk
2019-01-28 08:35
Salty thread
2019-01-28 06:55
The mods were trash as well.
2019-01-28 06:58
Hahahahahha cry NA dog
2019-01-28 07:06
#121
XigN | 
Korea crepes 
sounds like a you problem
2019-01-28 08:08
very stupid format where 1 team have no chance for mistake, and other have.... it should be bo5 with 1:0 advantage for upper bracket team
2019-01-28 08:15
#123
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Vietnam ponmemes 
cry here NA \_/
2019-01-28 08:17
#125
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Brazil Gunzel 
lmao expected from peanut NA brain
2019-01-28 08:19
C9 lost legitimately, they choked and fell short during the match that mattered.
2019-01-28 08:37
You need to win those maps in the final to win lol
2019-01-28 08:38
#131
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Israel _69 
+1
2019-01-28 08:42
#133
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Norway Outin 
This shows how uneducated you guys are :) #NoHateGoToSchool
2019-01-28 08:53
#134
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Czech Republic B0barian 
OMEGALUL Salty NA fan
2019-01-28 08:54
#136
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Russia Skipoda 
trash since 2017
2019-01-28 09:25
#138
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France StickyRice 
ELeague has been trash since the Clash for cash : 250.000$ for a single BO3 between Astralis (top 1) and VP (tier 3-4 at the time). Now tourney without advantage for upper bracket winner, stupid af. This ELeague thing is aimed at casual TV viewers, not for serious CS fans.
2019-01-28 09:40
lmao NA excuses
2019-01-28 20:15
#145
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Europe Dismal 
+1
2019-01-28 22:48
all of you guys are missing the point of the post cloud9 got no bonus or anything for coming from the winners bracket. Faze and C9 lost the same amount of bo3s but faze still won because of the format. in traditional tournaments formatted like this, there would be 2 bo3s in the grand final to make up for it, but in this case, there wasn't
2019-01-28 20:22
Dude ikr that's what I said too total bullshit
2019-01-28 23:22
dude like its not even like a big deal, just relax.
2019-01-29 00:55
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