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ps4 >>> PC
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United States MaximillianMus 
for any gamer besides extra competitive one, ps4 >> pc your opinions?
2019-02-01 07:41
No
2019-02-01 07:42
proof?
2019-02-01 07:42
#4
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United States codgun 
Name three things that a PC can't do better than a PS4.
2019-02-01 07:43
1. Run RDR2 and GOW
2019-02-01 07:46
#73
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Slovakia sanjuro 
exclusive games are only reason why to buy PS4, otherwise noone would buy them.
2019-02-01 08:29
+1
2019-02-01 10:09
#356
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Europe tweekzter 
And it's easy to use for people that don't care for technology. But indeed, you can do everything with a PC - you can even use it with a console controller on TV if you wish. PC just gives you way more possibilites. Besides modding and tweaking, you can also browse the web efficiently, use programs, work, whatever...
2019-02-01 16:51
#466
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Germany AdiZen 
playing with ps4 mates and getting a good "pc" for less money and long support
2019-02-04 22:40
#477
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Denmark Mikaow 
+1
2019-02-04 22:48
#311
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Iceland fatboislim 
rdr2 is coming for pc tho
2019-02-01 15:04
Yeah, when rockstar makes a 10x profit out of ps And only then let the pirate ship of PCUsers conqueror RDR2
2019-02-01 15:07
#315
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Iceland fatboislim 
yea because everyone would buy for pc instead of ps4, if they released at the same time. btw that didnt happen for gta 5
2019-02-01 15:09
"everyone would buy for pc" Nice joke
2019-02-01 15:11
#323
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Iceland fatboislim 
i mean ofcourse the poor kids who cant afford a pc would rent it for ps4
2019-02-01 15:19
No. Pc users will just pirate the game. Tf you talkin bout m8
2019-02-01 15:20
#341
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Iceland fatboislim 
why would they pirate an online game?
2019-02-01 16:19
/closed
2019-02-01 16:21
#343
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Iceland fatboislim 
what did you close?
2019-02-01 16:22
#425
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Greenland AkiKleist 
His intelligence
2019-02-04 21:05
#490
juliano | 
El Salvador mikj 
Below 0
2019-02-05 11:52
#492
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Greenland AkiKleist 
Exactly
2019-02-05 12:29
ask the millions who pirate online games that question
2019-02-01 18:16
#404
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Iceland fatboislim 
where are the millions of online game pirateers? and what online games do they pirate?
2019-02-01 19:49
PC market is the worst target platform for AAA games, you're fooling yourself
2019-02-01 15:20
#337
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Iceland fatboislim 
for who is it the worst target?
2019-02-01 16:17
producers
2019-02-01 16:26
#347
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Iceland fatboislim 
so whats your point? i didnt say otherwise.
2019-02-01 16:36
my point is that games on pc don't sell nearly as good as on consoles, therefore no, doesn't matter when the GTA would come out on PC, the console version still would get better sales
2019-02-01 16:44
#354
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Brazil jmarcelo 
because there's more console users than pc users...
2019-02-01 16:47
I could agree that there might have been more console users than pc users with good enough computer to run GTA at that time, but there's surely more PC users than console owners. That also shows that what intel and nvidia have been doing isn't really friendly to people who want to play AAA games on PCs
2019-02-01 16:49
#357
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Brazil jmarcelo 
well, I'm talking about gamers, not just regular pc users. there are more console gamers than there are pc gamers, thats what I meant. and yeah, there's a lot of people who can't run gat v on pc, but just a 750 2gb and an fx 8300is enough to run gta at like 40-50 fps on medium, which is better than what u could get on console, plus on pc u could do s much more than just play games.
2019-02-01 16:52
I'm not arguing that PS4 is better than PC, bt when it comes to AAA games, it definitely is.
2019-02-01 16:54
#359
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Brazil jmarcelo 
games run better on pc, but it is more likely that u r gonna play AAA games on console cause pc has more competitive games, but u can definitely play AAA games on pc with much better graphics than console.
2019-02-01 17:01
You can, but whether it is worth to invest much more into pc just to get better graphics, is debatable
2019-02-01 17:04
#361
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Iceland fatboislim 
yea but if you had a ps4 and a pc you would buy the game for pc.
2019-02-01 17:14
Why would I? I have a PC capable of running new games, but I can buy a game 2 weeks after release for like 180 PLN and then complete the story, and sell it for like 150 PLN losing only 30PLN, which is like 8$. Why would I want to pay like 60-70$ on steam? The best games aren't even coming on PC, so there's no debate, since I cannot buy them for PC.
2019-02-01 17:18
#366
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Iceland fatboislim 
if you really play games only for story then pirating is free and you can keep the game forever. you lose 0$ i mean if you really are that poor then why not pirate?
2019-02-01 17:28
Where's the correlation? Even if you're not poor, why not getting like 50$ back? Pirating is an option, but you cannot pirate games that aren't even on PC. Plus it's illegal and kinda ripping off the studios.
2019-02-01 17:36
#381
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Iceland fatboislim 
because maybe you want to own the game so you can play it again, or it has a multiplayer. im not talking about game that are not on pc lmfao. and you are doing the same thing. you're not actually buying the game at full price and after that you will resell it to someone else. that's ripping off a developer aswell.
2019-02-01 17:48
With the exception that developers actually allow me to do it. If I want to own the game or play it again, I can just wait a year till it drops to like 20$ and then buy it. I don't have to waste full price on it
2019-02-01 17:50
#383
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Iceland fatboislim 
you're just ripping off developers, it's insane... you should be ashamed of yourself.
2019-02-01 17:53
I'm ok with that
2019-02-01 17:54
#385
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Iceland fatboislim 
would be easier to pirate it.
2019-02-01 17:56
which is why the most popular games in the world are primarily pc?
2019-02-04 22:17
yeah, f2p online games, mostly created by indie studios not AAA games with hundreds millions of dollars budgets Also, I've specified that I mean AAA games one post before, so maybe read couple posts back before commenting
2019-02-04 22:28
#329
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Italy CESPU 
Lmao
2019-02-01 15:21
The only problem with with exclusives as an argument is the fact that pc has 100000 times as many exclusives. Also emulators.
2019-02-01 17:37
#430
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Croatia DNM_ii 
Yea because they're not even on the PC. You can't say the PC can't run games that aren't even available on the platform...
2019-02-04 21:07
cant play goty way more expensive if you want to play games made past 2015 at high 1080p dont have to pay for a OS
2019-02-01 07:47
you can run PS4 emulators on PC so no big deal pay to have an OS is an excuse pcsx4.com/
2019-02-01 08:02
intelligent
2019-02-01 08:04
is there one for ps2? I would love to play childhood games on my pc.
2019-02-01 08:49
2019-02-01 08:52
thx boi
2019-02-01 09:08
i didnt test anything btw... but they seem to be the best from what i have seen...
2019-02-01 09:08
i have played ffx and ffx2 on pcsx2 and they run smooth,emulator is working perfect.
2019-02-05 12:01
#165
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
They are only just getting ps3 emulators working, im calling bs
2019-02-01 09:24
#96
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Lithuania arres 
edit. miss-clicked a comment to respond to
2019-02-01 08:49
become cod pro
2019-02-01 08:50
#99
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Lithuania arres 
1. You can attach keyboard to PC 2. You can attach mouse to PC 3. You do not have absurd 50$/year fee to play games online on PC enough proofs?
2019-02-01 08:49
lmao what Kind of 12yo wrote that bullshit
2019-02-01 09:05
#136
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Lithuania arres 
why is that bullshit?
2019-02-01 09:09
you can attach a mouse and a Keyboard to a ps4 aswell IT IS ONLY 50$ per year, you wont even feel that lose after a month, lmao, meanhwile in pc you always need to take care of your fan etc etc, it start to became more shit, be loud, you spend next money and from a 1k $ pc you just put in 1,5k$ compare that to a ps4 that cost like 300$ and you dont need to update any of your specied to play the newest games. ps4 is far more better than pc in term of that and other stuff
2019-02-01 09:11
#185
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Lithuania arres 
PS4 was released at the end of 2013. Internet guesses that PS5 will be released around 2020-2021. That's the minimum 6-7 years of paying 50$ a year for online playing which is probably what all want and most people do. That's minimum of 300$. Original PS4 price on release date was 400$. That's 700$ in total and if you buy PS4 pro than it is even more ridiculous sum of money even if you sell your old PS4 for 200$. You probably also want a second controller which is another 50-60$ since it's fun to play tekken or mortal kombat with a friend. Now add all that money to whatever you spent on your laptop/pc and you will have more than you need to play new games on high res with high FPS + better gaming experience with mouse and keyboard. Prices of PC components price did not changed that much since technology stopped developing that rapidly as it did from 2000 up to 2010 so you can pretty much get similar PC now for the price you would have paid on 2015 so don't try "high end GPU/CPU was way more expensive when PS4 was released" argument. Also when you have that kind of PC you can for example edit high res videos from your travels and photos more smoothly, download shit and do much more things with it when you compare it to bare minimum of 200-300$ for pretty shity pc + PS4 for gaming. P.S. I know that people likes to sit on couch and play with PS and that's the experience they want and they are prepared to pay for it and I don't care, do what you want, but to act like buying PC for gaming instead of PS4 makes no sense and is way more expensive is just what a 12yo would do.
2019-02-01 09:42
#241
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Lithuania Sedge 
i ripped one of my fans off by accident, the other fried up... never replaced them... still fine
2019-02-01 10:13
Guess you just can take care of pcs
2019-02-01 16:41
mouse and keyboard for ps4 only works for some games with built in support like fortnite or overwatch. there are only like 6 games on the console itself with built in support
2019-02-01 18:42
+1
2019-02-01 15:20
you can also attach a keyboard and a mouse to a ps4? stupid uselesss addition to this thread
2019-02-01 18:19
#3
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China super_mario_64 
Can I play Super Mario 64 on PS4? I don’t think so. PC >>> PS4
2019-02-01 07:43
u rite
2019-02-01 07:48
#140
Aleksib | 
Finland MoRst 
+1
2019-02-01 09:10
#5
China wusif 
gaming is degenerate, I'm strictly an electronic sports athlete
2019-02-01 07:44
expected from next big country (blueface baby)
2019-02-01 07:52
#6
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Panama Cyain10 
Worst bait of 2019???
2019-02-01 07:45
Trik exists so impossible
2019-02-01 07:52
Of February yes
2019-02-01 07:52
No
2019-02-01 07:48
yes
2019-02-01 07:52
liquid > c9 pc >>> console
2019-02-01 10:23
c9 1 major > liquid 0 ps4 2018 GOTY > Pc best game was literally either ac odyssey (not bad) or Blackout (COD in 2018 yikes)
2019-02-01 10:25
ps4 without esport :)
2019-02-01 10:26
imo fortnite an esport (you might not agree) r6 aswell NHL, MLB, FIFA (small but exist) SMITE Ik all of these are tier2 besides fortnite and r6 but trust me when more cross platform ps4 >>>>>>>>>> pc
2019-02-01 10:27
fortnite - nobody cares r6- still better on pc sport games - very small and only fifa has some chance to exist any more smite -?????
2019-02-01 10:29
fortnite open qualifiers having same prize pool as csgo major, if no one cares about fortnite csgo has it rough r6 - true sports - true, but im a nhl fan so i can pray smite is t2 i will admit but still pretty large
2019-02-01 10:31
nobody cares about fortnite 200k viewers every day on twitch 1m viewers at tournaments $100.000.000 prize pool in 2019 LMAO
2019-02-01 17:37
200k of kids or braindead people :)
2019-02-01 17:42
and you are obviously one of them
2019-02-01 17:42
im 21 with very good job very good salary with very good school and with brain.
2019-02-02 00:12
#10
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Denmark Stylepoint! 
PC will always be above PS4 if you got a high end-gamer PC. Plus it won't overheat and makes sounds that's constant annoying you. I got the PS4 Pro and it's overheating plus it's extremely loud within games, brought it 8 months ago. People have the same experience. And every single game you can play on PS, you can play on PC. :-)
2019-02-01 07:48
the biggest reason to buy a ps4 is cause of the games you can play on it and not pc Red Dead redemption 2 (GOTY) God of war Spiderman all extremely high rated games pc cant play i will admit it does make noise (i have ps4 slim and it is loud) but with headphones on i cant hear it, but i can see how this is a problem, but same could apply to someones pc unless the spend even more on a case or quiet fans or something (idk to much about pc's) high end gaming pc's are 700 above a brand new ps4 and around 800 if you buy a ps4 off offerup/ebay
2019-02-01 07:51
#18
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Switzerland mauricee 
buying ps4 bc of 3 games gigalul
2019-02-01 07:52
82* with more than 10 being some of the best, imo thats better than spending 1k just to play some dead esport
2019-02-01 07:54
#26
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Switzerland mauricee 
u dont need to stend 1000 dollars to have good performance on a pc???
2019-02-01 07:55
if you want to play any the newer games yes
2019-02-01 08:06
#70
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Switzerland mauricee 
not true at all lol
2019-02-01 08:26
according to pcgamer a gtx 1070/1060 6gb is needed to play assassins creed odyssey at 1080p high, literally just the ps4 can do that im sure throw in a cpu that works with the gpu and doesnt bottleneck, ram, case, psu, and harddrive/ssd/motherboard, itll be around/above 1k
2019-02-01 08:31
But can it run over 30/60 fps? Don’t think so there, bud.
2019-02-01 08:47
it can because i own it lmao
2019-02-01 08:49
#246
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Lithuania Sedge 
lmao
2019-02-01 10:16
How is that even an argument?
2019-02-05 11:32
#94
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Switzerland mauricee 
OMEGAGIGALUL pcgamer has to be retarded then, also who wants to play ac in the first place..?
2019-02-01 08:47
>nominated for GOTY > no one wants to play pick one
2019-02-01 08:50
#172
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
I have odyssey on ps4 and still think its shit. Was such a disappointing game to play after rdr2
2019-02-01 09:27
yeah i played odyssey before rdr2 and i feel in love with it so much but i think if i played rdr2 before i wouldn't have liked it as much, but tbh its been the same with other games, i havent barely touched NHL since i got it cause of rdr2/ac
2019-02-01 09:29
#177
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Ac games are just the same shit year after year, sure they changed combat in origins but it is still braindead and i beat that game on nightmare. The horse in odyssey is buggy as shit compared to rdr2. Ac games are shat out yearly to make $$$
2019-02-01 09:31
ac odyssey was a 2 year project and same with origins and same with the 2020 ac, not sure what ur tryna say here
2019-02-01 09:40
#199
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
Ok my bad then, i stopped caring about then ages ago. My point is obvious, they are overrated trash with fuck all effort put into them. Name me one gameplay concept in odyssey that isnt lifted from another series
2019-02-01 09:42
im just now realizing your name... im slow
2019-02-01 08:50
PS4 plays AC Odyssey on Medium settings at max bro.
2019-02-01 15:12
not ps4 pro, but a regular one yes
2019-02-01 16:13
The pro is shit also idk where people think it's some insane improvement, the only thing it brought was stable framerate the games are still being played at equivalent to what pc would look like in medium settings 60 fps.
2019-02-01 18:55
yeah go Play the witcher or gta on a 1k $ PC, it will never be constast smooth, unlike the PS4 that graphic is insanely good
2019-02-01 09:07
#219
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Switzerland mauricee 
XDDDDD
2019-02-01 10:03
You can still play overwatch on ps4 lol
2019-02-01 08:16
shii u rite
2019-02-01 08:18
"(idk to much about pc's)" answers why your opinion is shit.
2019-02-01 10:32
the building is what i meant, ive played pc games pretty much my whole life, i dont see you debating with me so idk how your judging my opinion to be shit
2019-02-01 10:33
no but i've read your answers to the others. and i can pretty much say that you didn't do jack shit on pc and you're a fortnite cunt that's trying to cause an argument.
2019-02-01 10:34
so you skipped over all my other counter arguments that people are yet to reply but come to the conclusion that I'm a cunt cause i like a popular video game expected tbh
2019-02-01 10:36
That is true, high-end PCs are far superior compared to PS4. However, most people wants best bang for minimum amount of bucks, and PS4 fits perfectly into that. Why spend over one grand when you can get PS4 for much less and get the job done? Sure graphics isnt the best but they're decent enough and unless one is a graphic whore the difference between PC and PS4 graphics is minuscule. Emulator and modding falls into niche category which does not represent most gamers. Lastly silent PC is a luxury for those who can spend more bucks on advanced gpu cooling and fans.
2019-02-01 08:05
huge +1
2019-02-01 08:19
#125
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Lithuania arres 
#124
2019-02-01 09:03
#76
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Slovakia sanjuro 
the biggest problem of consoles is their FPS, true gaming begin at 85fps+
2019-02-01 08:32
"true gaming" nice gatekeeping. 60fps is adequate enough for decent gaming experience, more than that is not a necessity but luxury.
2019-02-01 08:38
#87
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Slovakia sanjuro 
it is until u start playing on more FPS, then u cant go back.
2019-02-01 08:41
lmao what are you on?? i played fifa 18 on my pc and my ps4, then went to 19 and still have no Problem with the fps change
2019-02-01 09:09
#270
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United Kingdom TheBoxerKick 
Well if you're stuck playing on 60 Hz obviously the change is minimal.
2019-02-01 10:29
I have 144hz bro
2019-02-01 16:39
#124
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Lithuania arres 
People buy computers anyway. Add what you would spend for PS4 (don't forget the ridiculous online playing fee that adds up to huge sum throughout the years) onto the computer and you will be able to run all new games on good graphics if you buy laptop and probably highest settings if you buy PC.
2019-02-01 09:02
if you game for 10 years with a ps4 (god forbid ps7 will be amazing) it'll cost 900$ if nothing changes, pc that can run odyssey would be more expensive...
2019-02-01 09:44
#212
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Lithuania arres 
Look, I'm just arguing that buying gaming PC is not that much more expensive if any as you try to make it seem. Especially when you take into consideration much more other things you can do with that powerful pc instead of shitty pc/laptop + PS4. If you like to lay on couch, controller is enough for you and you do not need to edit high res videos or uncompressed photos - go for it. But even a standard things you do on PC like browsing is unbearable with cheap PCs. #185 P.S. oh... and if you do not mind downloading games instead of buying then gaming PC is cheap af when you add game prices for PS4. I know that it is possible to hack ps4 but I think then you might have some problems when you want to buy a game for playing online + it's way more complicated to hack ps4 instead of replacing exe file with a cracked one on pc and it is way harder to find ps4 games to download.
2019-02-01 10:02
In this time and era computer is already secondary need, while gaming is more of a tertiary need. Having one mediocre computer/laptop in every household should already be a given on most middle class families and as such should've been ruled out when you're adding laptop/pc into calculation. They're not great but not unbearable/unusable either, your perception is biased because your standard has changed. Also even basic editing is not everyone's thing and only makes up a fraction of average gamers, even much less those who does high res editing which mostly falls into professional use, therefore the need for powerful PC becomes unecessary for average consumers
2019-02-01 11:07
#295
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Lithuania arres 
OK, buy ps4 then, I don't care
2019-02-01 11:36
#14
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Switzerland mauricee 
na brain
2019-02-01 07:52
proof
2019-02-01 07:54
#432
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Greenland AkiKleist 
>thinks 3 games locked behind a paywall are the only reason that PS4 > PC
2019-02-04 21:11
84*, and thats not the only reason
2019-02-04 22:12
#482
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Greenland AkiKleist 
Is that all you want, 84 specific games?
2019-02-05 08:29
As it stands right now, yes I agree. Their exclusives are stellar, performances are consistent, and with current pricing of PC parts PS4 (even pro version) is somewhat cheaper, at least here. Of course, PC offers versatility like emulator and modding, but that falls into niche category and does not represent most gamers.
2019-02-01 07:52
that is true, while you can plug keyboard/mouse into ps4, that isnt really much compared to pc emulating
2019-02-01 07:55
#17
Blue | 
Sweden face_baby 
0/8
2019-02-01 07:52
GTA>RDR nt
2019-02-01 07:53
gta 5 on ps4, we gotchu
2019-02-01 07:56
Imagine playing GTA 5 on the ps4 in 2019
2019-02-01 07:57
imagine playing gta in first person in 2014 on pc, o wait
2019-02-01 07:59
We're not in 2014 anymore, NA brain too delayed?
2019-02-01 07:59
was to prove a point that things come to ps4 quicker, or just only ps4 expected from Sixer fan Imagine buying something that cant play the past 2 GOTY
2019-02-01 08:15
Imagine paying for a PS4 only to play GOW and RDR2
2019-02-01 09:08
You get like 100-150 hours out of RDR2 and GOW. Imagine how much you gotta spend on tickets in cinema to get the same time of entertainment. Plus you can buy used console and resell it after completing these games. At the end of the day, you might lose like 50-100$ bucks, but you're acting in your post like it's spending 10k$ for nothing
2019-02-01 11:20
#24
Altekz | 
Netherlands xielA 
Ps4 for non gamers Pc for gamers /closed
2019-02-01 07:54
>ps4 more higher quality games >for non gamers expected
2019-02-01 07:56
#36
Altekz | 
Netherlands xielA 
More higher quality games? Hahaha Nice esports on ps4. Omg 3 games on ps4 that arent on pc thats wow. But expected from NA
2019-02-01 07:59
nice research 82 games on ps4 that arent on pc (and a lot more better ones to come) and I'm pretty sure GOTY 2018 is better than league of legends, probably the worst argument yet
2019-02-01 08:09
#60
Altekz | 
Netherlands xielA 
HAHAHA no one plays league of legends. Cs > every ps4 game combined with active players alone and cs is a dead game! Omg 82 games not on pc but on ps4??? There are more than 1000+ games that are on pc but not on ps4
2019-02-01 08:19
not sure why 1k irrelevant unfinished games are better than some of gamings best titles, (rdr2, God of war, uncharted, etc.) and if you seriously just said Cs is better than every ps4 game combined when literally overwatch gets more attention i cant take u serious (btw is this is a bait i fell for it hard)
2019-02-01 08:22
#65
Altekz | 
Netherlands xielA 
Sure thing, Overwatch scene pc > overwatch scene pc I wont respond anymore my brain hurts from this usless thread. Bot NA play some rdr2!!
2019-02-01 08:24
Overwatch scene pc > overwatch scene pc nice comparison tbh a sign of defeat and another debate won by the top1 debater, expected
2019-02-01 08:27
1000k+ unfinished games still better than 82 finished games
2019-02-01 09:10
#28
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Denmark Lars69420 
Die
2019-02-01 07:56
why u bully me?
2019-02-01 07:57
#45
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Denmark Lars69420 
cuz you like ps4 over pc ain't it obvious?
2019-02-01 08:05
understandable
2019-02-01 08:07
nah, pc is better as long as u got money to get good one.
2019-02-01 07:57
but why spend extra money on it?
2019-02-01 07:58
fps is better :), also I think playing shooters with controller is like you are handicapped person in the game, fucking terrible xD...
2019-02-01 08:00
fps is better but ps4 can run every single game at above 60 1080p for only 300, where as you'd need to spend around 1k for that it is a handicap if there isnt aim assist, but even if thats not your style you can still keyboard and mouse
2019-02-01 08:01
I do not like to have advantage over people cuz controller method that is not even really meant one for the system, seems simply not fair battle.
2019-02-01 08:14
Its like aimlocking
2019-02-01 09:11
#434
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Greenland AkiKleist 
PC is good in any budget, it’s best if you save up or know someone selling their old ones. That’s a start, upgrading is up t oneself
2019-02-04 21:13
Imagine paying for online play
2019-02-01 07:58
basically just paying your internet provider or Netflix
2019-02-01 08:12
#74
Lekr0 | 
Peru firey_ 
thats not an excuse youre paying internet + netflix + some shit to play online.
2019-02-01 08:31
5$ a month is not that bad and if it is this you shouldn't have a ps4 or pc and should focus on feeding yourself
2019-02-01 08:35
#107
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Ye but long term it means that you will pay more to play on your PS4 than just buying like 600$ PC that can do much more stuff
2019-02-01 08:51
if you play ps4 for 10 years (probably wont) itll be 900$ in total (including ps4) still less than a pc needed to run most tripple a titles at 1080p high settings
2019-02-01 08:54
#278
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
You can easily get by with a 600$ gaming rig.. and even after 1 year you have paid 60$ more just to play online on the ps4 .. That + PCs gaming capabilities and usability (not to mention upgradeability) easily makes PC the winner here
2019-02-01 10:37
yeah you can get a 600$ gaming rig, doesn't mean it will run as well, and yes it is 60$ a month but spotify premium is double that so imo it isnt a issue at all, PCs gaming capabilities arent to far out from ps4's i will give upgradeability to pc tho
2019-02-01 10:41
#280
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Yea, I don't have anything against consoles but just those little things make PCs still better right now. And if u bulid your 600$ rig right then it can outperform the ps4
2019-02-01 10:44
bullshit, long term you gotta pay the same amount for AAA games, with the exception that you cannot resell them, so basically you're losing like 40$ per PC game, meanwhile in case of PS4 it's like 5-10$ max
2019-02-01 11:23
#309
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Ok kiddo, firstly you can sell ur steam or origin account. Secondly the 60$ you lost that year with ur ps4, I could buy a game for that money :P not to mention PCs got free to play games and if someone wants/risks it then they could even pirate it. As I said I don't have anything against consoles but saying PS4 is better than a 600$+ PC is just wrong.
2019-02-01 14:51
yeah, because selling origin or steam accounts is so convenient for both the seller and buyer. Everyone likes having 100 accounts, one for each game. And it's not like selling accounts isn't really safe, since the previous owner can get it back after selling it to you What 60$ have I lost? With 60$ for one pc game you can buy 6 ps4 games if you play it out smart. PS4 also has f2p games, and f2p games are usually shitty, plus the better ones don't really have high requirements, so you can afford a PC and console instead of high end PC. Also, where did I say that PS4 is better than 600$+ PC? 600$ Anyway, 600$ PC is still some one of the lowest tiers you can get with new parts. Some shitty 1050ti that will have trouble running games on medium one year later. Let alone having it last for the same amount of years the PS4 lasts.
2019-02-01 15:03
#330
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Ahem, you don't buy games just to sell them later. You don't have to have 100 different accounts and every person does their own thing. And selling your steam and origin account is just an option to sell those games. Claiming you can't resell them is just wrong. For that 60$ you could buy fuckton of games on PC too.. and you don't have to play those f2p games, that is just a nice extra. You started arguing with me on a comment where I compared PS4 to a 600$ PC, so don't be surprised if you get that kind of a comment. Yes the 1050ti isn't the greatest but you still get more fps and could play with higher settings vs the PS4.
2019-02-01 15:28
Why on earth wouldn't you sell a game? You buy a game to play it, and possibly finnish the story. Whatever you do with it after is not relevant to your motivation why you bought it, right? If it is money issue, then you sell it. Then how do you find a customer to pay you a good price, i.e. 70-80%, if you're selling him an account with 50 games, are you serious? I used the argument about accounts, because it's easier to find a customer who's looking to buy one specific game, not a package. And no, I wasn't wrong by saying that you cannot resell PC games, because you're not selling the game itself, but an account that happens to contain it. I was referring to buying newly released games, not some FIFA 2016 that nobody plays anymore The difference between 1050ti and PS4 is that when you buy this GPU for example now, after 2-3 years you won't be able to run any new games on it. If you'd have bought PS4 in 2014, you'd be able to play every newly released AAA game on it for like 6-7 years. And its price is lower than what you'd have to pay for a PC that'd last for like maybe 2 years
2019-02-01 15:38
#334
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Yes, people are different, some might sell games, some not. In my experience I don't see a lot of people selling their games, so that's probably where my opinion came from. If people want to sell their games then they should buy them on a disc (I know most games don't come on discs anymore but if people wanna get sellable games like that on PC, then that's what they have to work with). And yes I agree with the 1050ti story but I bet in 2-3 years games (of course it depends what games people play) aren't that demanding that you couldn't play games at least low settings (mby @ 1080p or a bit lower) at 30-60 fps But hey that's what I think, people can choose their own path
2019-02-01 16:09
Ok, but the question is what's more profitable. If you don't want to sell games, then money clearly isn't an issue for you, therefore you can buy a high end pc and a console Games on PC with disks usually comes with a code, so you have to activate the game on your account. The disk is there to make you download less or nothing. I wouldn't be so sure about demanding games. Check out what's happening with raytracing and current nvidia's prices
2019-02-01 16:25
#350
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
I'm not in any way rich, but enough that I can keep my games, I like to have them in case I want to play them again. Yea gaming on the PC in some regards is kind of a pain in the butt, but like overall medium end gaming PC like the sweetpoint, you have enough to almost do everything. Raytracing luckily still in the future and likely (at least for the next 4-5 years) and option in the game
2019-02-01 16:41
You can buy a game for 60$, play it, sell for 50$. Before you want to play it again, the price will drop to like 10-20$, so you can buy it again.
2019-02-01 16:46
#407
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Yea that's another way of thinking
2019-02-01 20:04
It's like saying that you have 10x more chance to die from drowning than to die in terrorist attack so why do you care about terrorism
2019-02-01 09:59
not sure terrorism and paying 5$ a month for something are good things to compare
2019-02-01 10:03
#35
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Czech Republic B0barian 
PS4 = PC Cause of components inside
2019-02-01 07:58
i think if someone made a valid enough case for this i could get on board with it
2019-02-01 08:10
True
2019-02-01 08:00
glad to see a friend :)
2019-02-01 08:10
Nice try, I’ll stick to my always unfinished early access games.
2019-02-01 08:14
battlefield 5 be like
2019-02-01 08:16
#59
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Finland nevGod 
Just watch bulletbarrys console peasant quotes
2019-02-01 08:19
to lazy to watch smh
2019-02-01 08:23
#130
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Finland nevGod 
Theres like 100 reasons why pc is better
2019-02-01 09:05
name some
2019-02-01 09:07
Has a keyboard Has a mouse Dont have to pay to play online Has a lot of free to play games. Actually use your arms unlike ps4 where you just use you fingers
2019-02-01 09:13
Has a controller You don't have to pay for the controller, it comes with the console You don't have to download 10 platforms to play different online games Has a lot of exclusive games Actually you can play in whichever position you choose, unlike PC where you're most likely sitting and straining your back everybody can make shitty excuses like that lol, it's just a matter of perspective
2019-02-01 11:26
You are still not moving all the time.
2019-02-01 11:27
#290
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Finland nevGod 
Watch the videos burger u wont regret it
2019-02-01 11:24
#61
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
Only if you're casual use a console to play a few games after work while relaxong or something along those lines. And young kids maybe like <10
2019-02-01 08:21
semi +1 i will admit ps4 you can only go pro in fortnite (yes i think its a esport) and r6
2019-02-01 08:25
Sport games? Fighting games? Racing games? All pretty much exclusive to consoles.
2019-02-01 08:50
o shi i forgot about those, +1 u rite
2019-02-01 08:51
Fortnite is not a esport dont @ me
2019-02-01 09:13
@ Reply needs to have actual content
2019-02-01 09:15
Fornite needs to have actual gameplay to be a esport. Its litteraly no skill needed.
2019-02-01 09:16
overwatch doesnt have skill (isnt a esport tho u rite) imo fortnite does take skill, the building part is fairly easy but editing, constate meta changes, and especially what to use and when (planes, deagle, rifts etc) take a lot of skill (especially the last ) plus bigger prize pools in public qualifying games than valve csgo major LUL
2019-02-01 09:19
Overwatch needs skill, if you think Fortnite is a skilled base game. HOLY FUCK YOU ARE RETARDED.
2019-02-01 09:19
Is there some luck to it? Sure. Gun spread is random (although it can be mitigated through intelligent playing) and the loot in general is random so you might find some unlucky gun spawns and die to a better gun. But "more luck based than skill based," I can't really get on board wtih that... Look at any of the top players in this game. They're racking up hundreds of kills and getting obscene winrates (20% - 30% or even higher). Hard to say luck has more to do with it than skill when top players can win so consistently.
2019-02-01 09:21
every game "needs skill" you cant be good without skill, but overwatch theres just so much less to learn to know pretty much all you need to know, you dont need to know how to rotate, when to engage when to build, when to fight on site, what weapons to pick up (to an extent i guess class picking) all overwatch is is just pick a class, wait for ur other teammates and rush payload
2019-02-01 09:25
Litteraly Fortnite is the definition of you dont need skill to play a game.
2019-02-01 09:28
ez baited
2019-02-01 09:50
+1 TRUE
2019-02-01 08:21
glad to see a friend :)
2019-02-01 08:25
#66
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Germany beerbear 
15 y/o na brain
2019-02-01 08:24
proof why pc is better? (assuming thats your opinion)
2019-02-01 08:25
#72
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Germany beerbear 
1 single ram latch in my pc is better than a ps4 + xbox combined
2019-02-01 08:28
obviously, xbox is so shit it'll turn ps4 into a iphone 4, remove the xbox then ps4 > pc until pc is worth above 1k EDIT : thats just if were talking graphics
2019-02-01 08:33
#90
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Germany beerbear 
should i build a tower for 1k which is definitely better than a ps4? EDIT: i could almost build 2 towers for 1k which are better.
2019-02-01 08:43
build a tower that can run ac odyssey at 60fps high 1080p for 500 and ill make a thread saying im disabled
2019-02-01 08:47
#101
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Germany beerbear 
challenge accepted
2019-02-01 08:49
#122
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Germany beerbear 
2019-02-01 09:01
psu?
2019-02-01 09:14
#168
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Germany beerbear 
take a closer look EDIT: the case is being sold with a psu. so gimme my thread now.
2019-02-01 09:28
#78
Lekr0 | 
Peru firey_ 
lol you dont know anything about pc's and making a great pc for low price that in the future is capable of upgrades
2019-02-01 08:33
ok make a 300$ pc that can run ac odyssey 1080p high 60fps
2019-02-01 08:34
#86
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World ascet 
why would you wanna play single player game in 2019 unless you are a streamer and just have to shit some content?
2019-02-01 08:41
because its a good game? if you want to talk multiplayer then black ops
2019-02-01 08:46
#144
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World ascet 
whats the point? to sit in couch with yo fat belly and play single player games (waste YOUR own time and even PAY for playing that) then yea.. not sure how you can aim in shitops without mouse if you are telling that its "affordable" whats the matter if you cant reproduce even your initial deposit on ps ? can you render content? can you make any value from 0 in that environment ? or only sell accounts which values based on bought games and nothing else?
2019-02-01 09:12
I can litteraly play Crew 2, Dirt 4, Call of Duty on my shit pc
2019-02-01 09:16
#391
Lekr0 | 
Peru firey_ 
do you really think ps4 plays games at high? nice joke in a couple of minutes ill make a pc now im busy
2019-02-01 18:20
it's better even for comp. you'll never hit this on PC - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz2y3uaJOvw
2019-02-01 08:34
Huge +1/fax
2019-02-01 08:36
Pc is better 10 times but sometimes its better to chill in yoyr bed with ps4
2019-02-01 08:38
dayum well if you have both then that would be pretty nice, but imo ps4 just has more advantages so if you only had to pick one ps4 would be the semi-obvious choice
2019-02-01 08:42
The only thing I use my ps4 to is netflix and youtube tho. So make a good choice
2019-02-01 18:06
#85
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Ukraine Najara 
60+fps >>>> ps4
2019-02-01 08:38
1k for 60fps high or 300 for 60fps high?
2019-02-01 08:42
#115
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Ukraine Najara 
Cheapest is the dearest. If you buy cheaply, you pay dearly Better to buy PC by 1k$ and have a PC (where you can work, play etc) Then PS4 where you need to pay for online and buy games (on PC i prefer Torrent edition games)
2019-02-01 08:53
lets say u have 1k to spend on a gaming system, 1k for pc, or 1k for ps4 + 10 years of online internet (which im sure ps5 or something would've changed by then) you probably shouldn't have a gaming pc at work most cracked games cant be played online
2019-02-01 08:58
#123
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Ukraine Najara 
nah for example I want to play GTA5/AC/Final Fantasy15 etc I go on torrent and got it for free on PC On PS4 I need to pay for it ~60$ so 1k PC = PS4 + 11 games + 1 year online Also you can upgrade your PC PS4 is good only for FIFA coz no cheaters or some exclusives if you are fun
2019-02-01 09:01
#126
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Ukraine Najara 
>>>you probably shouldn't have a gaming pc at work I need a lot of virtual machines.. Also I need to open and compile code at IDE So I need a powerfull PC
2019-02-01 09:03
#91
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
- Ps4 is good for casual gaming. If you're the competitive type of gamer a ps4 isn't what you should buy. At the beginning pc gaming was mostly for people who were interested in computer science. Who liked to built they own pc's and who liked to upgrade them in order to have graphics you can't get on a console. You're speaking about games you can only play on ps4 but there are a lot of games you can/could only play on PC and some of the best ever made as well. ( half life series / doom / quake / watercraft outcast and so on ) Without computer gaming you would have never seen STR's or FPS. In conclusion it all comes down to preferences and what you can afford. I've always had both consoles and good quality gaming pc's. That's two different type of gaming and both have their pro's and con's.
2019-02-01 08:44
best case I've read yet, and extremely impressed man :)
2019-02-01 08:52
#306
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
thanks, that's mostly because i'm an old gamer and kinda have seen it all when it comes gaming, had my first console in 1990 wich was the NES (kinda had all of them since then) and my first PC in 1997 or something. That's a subject i actually could speak about for hours and i always find it funny when people argue about those things, the best one is the one you enjoy the most and that's about it :) And about my previous post. WTF IS WATERCRAFT DUMB PHONE!!?? I meant warcraft series obviously.
2019-02-01 12:45
#97
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World VeryNiceFap 
yes
2019-02-01 08:48
glad to have a friend :)
2019-02-01 08:53
PC>all
2019-02-01 08:51
proof?
2019-02-01 08:52
Keyboard and mouse > game pad
2019-02-01 08:56
u can have keyboard and mouse on ps4
2019-02-01 08:58
Writing as if emulator for ps4 doesn't exist on pc...
2019-02-01 08:52
pc u spent 500+ on smh
2019-02-01 08:53
PC is absolutely necessary for doing many things other than gaming and required for work for a lot of people (myself included). PS4 isn't necessary for shit, and you have to use a controller (ew). Mouse/Kb far superior for gaming IMO. Also 1000 dollars isn't a lot of money, if it is then you need to stop playing games and focus on school / your career.
2019-02-01 08:59
shi if 1k isn't a lot to you wtf is? also yes most people need a PC for work but most workplaces provide them, or you can get something cheap like a surface pro (what I have) if they don't if you hate controller you can still use keyboard and mouse
2019-02-01 09:01
True I guess you can still use those on PS4. I'm not trying to brag about making money or anything, I'm just saying if you can't afford to drop 1500 on a new computer every 3 - 5 years then you should be focusing you're efforts on improving your financial situation :)
2019-02-01 09:05
meant to hit reply edited...
2019-02-01 09:06
144 > 60
2019-02-01 09:10
"extra competitive"
2019-02-01 09:16
Casual NA gamer spotted
2019-02-01 09:12
#1 fortnite player is a casual gamer with your logic
2019-02-01 09:15
Yes lol
2019-02-01 09:16
expected from ruski
2019-02-01 09:16
Expected NA ps4 gamer to be a fortnut player. Eks de
2019-02-01 09:18
stick with ur 1 million dollar prize pool
2019-02-01 16:14
Pc you can do your work on aswell as play video games aswell, but with ps4 all you can do it play games you can get on PC apart from RDR2 and a few others.
2019-02-01 09:19
if you really want to you can work on ps4 (they have safari, ive used it for porn once but i got paranoid) but if you need it for work your workplace should provide you with a pc, or you could get a cheap laptop of offerup or surface pro (like me) for work, so you have mobility with it
2019-02-01 09:22
Or you can litteraly Buy a gaming pc and use that. Just stop making excuses for ps4 > PC because you know that PC > PS4
2019-02-01 09:23
gaming pc's arent mobile, and personally i dont want my gaming stuff mixed up with work stuff, im not making excuses im stating my opinion
2019-02-01 09:27
No you're litteraly making excuses. And Watch im gonna blow your mind. google.com/search?q=Gaming+laptops&rlz=1.. LAPTOPS BOI I bet you cant play games at work on your shitty ps4.
2019-02-01 09:29
1k for a gaming laptop that literally has worse specs than a xbox 360, nice once again mixing up work and gaming stuff, ik thats personal preference but still
2019-02-01 09:31
You realise Consoles was my first gaming experience right??? I then moved over to pc and Ive never gone back. Honestly shut the fuck up. 90% of Hltv agrees pc is better. If you dont like Pc get the fuck off this site.
2019-02-01 09:33
PC Master Race > all /close
2019-02-01 09:21
/open false /close
2019-02-01 09:22
/open Pc is better /closed /locked
2019-02-01 09:24
/unlocked (im jonathan e.) banned for disagreeing with me, cya in 10 -Jonathan E. /locked
2019-02-01 09:26
/open Cant unlock it Im the owner of Hltv BITCH /locked I ate the key
2019-02-01 09:27
/open joanthan E. is allergic to keys, i should know cause i am him /lock
2019-02-01 09:32
You are such a retard
2019-02-01 09:33
- consoles have much worse graphics than high end PC - no mouse, no keyboard -> much worse controls - no mods - not upgradeable, you are stuck with the same hardware until next console gen is out And I speak of experience. consoles I own: SNES, N64, Gamecube, PS1, PS2, PS3. I was a console die hard for 20 years After PS3 I bought a gaming PC and I will never ever touch a console again.... PC is superior in every aspect
2019-02-01 09:28
- high end pc is key, why spend 1k for a little bit better graphics? - you can use mouse/keyboard - your right on that part - you dont need to upgrade
2019-02-01 09:33
If your ps4 breaks. You have to buy a NEW ps4. If our pc breaks we can fix it.
2019-02-01 09:34
you can repair ps4's
2019-02-01 09:37
2019-02-01 09:35
google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enNZ817NZ8..
2019-02-01 09:38
if you are OK with just 1080p and 30 fps, a concole is maybe better for you :)
2019-02-01 09:35
1080p 60* and yes i dont see the need for more than 60 fps
2019-02-01 09:38
1080 and 60 fps cannot be done by current gen consoles, cuz they use 3-4 year old GPUs
2019-02-01 09:46
i literally own a ps4 and can run every game i own 60 fps 1080p but nt
2019-02-01 09:51
LOL first of all, no, even the ps4 pro cannot handle 60fps and 1080p (according to tests done by eurogamer). and second of all, tell me how you measure your fps on your ps4? jesus christ just accept it that PC is better.
2019-02-01 09:54
#178
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Netherlands @Deji 
+1
2019-02-01 09:31
glad to see a friend :)
2019-02-01 09:34
lul pc 1000 times better better control better graphic
2019-02-01 09:31
ps4 1k times better controller is fine imo but you can still use keyboard/mouse pc has a little bit better graphics if you spend 1k compared to 300
2019-02-01 09:34
keyboard and mouse on ps4 lul what?
2019-02-01 09:42
theres usb slots on ps4
2019-02-01 09:51
So what? I guess it is just for menu controll but not for gaming
2019-02-01 09:53
#192
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Brazil BlueLighting 
"YOU ARE WRONG" -change my mind
2019-02-01 09:37
im right did it work?
2019-02-01 09:39
#201
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Brazil BlueLighting 
still wrong, but at least you have little faith in what you say
2019-02-01 09:42
dam i tried
2019-02-01 09:46
#198
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Pakistan jarpeet 
Or if you want the best experience you build a high end PC to play most games, get a PS4 Pro for the exclusives and the switch for the exclusives (if you want them). /closed
2019-02-01 09:41
#203
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Poland Kleigen 
Consoles are made for gaming and relaxing after work or school, not like "competitive" PC. -Multiplayer is optional (if you want to play, you pay) -Of course best exclusives -You don't need to worry if your console can actually run a game (it will be always in 30 or 60 frames) -A lot of nostalgic games which have never been created on PC -Backward compatibility in XBOX -Better controller (less useless controls) -No emulators or some shit -No cheaters in ONLINE (best thing) -Achievements and prizes IRL Haters gonna hate anyway :)
2019-02-01 09:45
huge +1!!! i also think ps4 is slowing getting chances to become a console where you can go pro, i know a lot dont agree but i think fortnite is a esport and disagree or agree people are making more money of playing pro in fortnite than csgo, the number 1 fortnite pro is a console player, so there's slim but some opportunity
2019-02-01 09:49
laughed my ass at this -Better controller (less useless controls) OMEGALUL
2019-02-01 10:07
-How is that good to have to pay for online? -PC has exclusive as well, you're on a CSGO website, aren't you? -How is that good to only being able to play at 60fps max? -which games? -xbox=/=console -you can use a controller on PC -How is that a good thing? -just wait until they crack the code -also on PC
2019-02-01 10:12
#259
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Poland Kleigen 
Expert here hahaha shitty arguments tho, you only disagree to what I said
2019-02-01 10:23
Still waiting for arguments
2019-02-01 11:09
no.
2019-02-01 09:57
yes.
2019-02-01 10:03
3,81 easy
2019-02-01 10:05
i no follow
2019-02-01 10:08
#215
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
no.
2019-02-01 10:00
yes.
2019-02-01 10:04
#223
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
no..
2019-02-01 10:04
proof?
2019-02-01 10:09
#235
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
yes.
2019-02-01 10:10
#216
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Norway supremoxd 
No. /closed
2019-02-01 10:01
/open yes.
2019-02-01 10:04
#225
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Norway supremoxd 
Just no dude. There is no way a console is better than a gaming computer. Give me your reasons
2019-02-01 10:05
> cheaper > exclusive game x10 better than esport games > 1080p 60fps on EVERY game many more
2019-02-01 10:07
#237
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Norway supremoxd 
60fps? I'm not sure if i'm saying this correctly but PS4 isn't always 60 fps in every game. Correct that is most likely a lot cheaper than a decent gaming pc, but it's more worth it to invest in a 1k dollar or less gaming pc which is quite decent than spending money on a ps4. That's my opinion
2019-02-01 10:12
in some sections of intense games it will drop to 40 to 50, but every game in most places are 60fps 1080p, the difference between 1k and 300 is huge but ps4 and pc are almost the same, and imo ps4 takes the edge
2019-02-01 10:14
#262
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Norway supremoxd 
Yes the difference is quite big but it's still worth it to invest
2019-02-01 10:26
why? imo save the 500 and buy a nice monitor to go with that ps4,
2019-02-01 10:28
#265
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Norway supremoxd 
True, that's also a good option.
2019-02-01 10:28
#267
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Norway supremoxd 
But you don't know what's the budget for each person. Some people can, some people can't
2019-02-01 10:29
#217
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Slovenia Josip09 
Tbh i used to be exclusive pc gamer for a while but once I got ps4 i started to really preffer it to pc. Exclusives are just so much better than pc games. No drivers/updates makes life so much easier when you got a tight schedule.
2019-02-01 10:02
+3!!!
2019-02-01 10:04
I am sorry but just no! in ps1 times, yes, you could just put in the disk and go! while on PC you had to update tons of shit every time. today, consoles suffer from the same "problem". you have day 1 patches, updates all the time, so there is almost no difference to a PC. on new PCs on the other hand, you only have to update your nvidia software, which it does automatically, and click on "optimize" to get the best settings for your games. it so easy and convenient and doesnt take more time than using a console.
2019-02-01 10:09
#300
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Slovenia Josip09 
-windows update -antivirus update -flash update -java update -launcher update -game updates -drivers update (sound,graphics etc) while on console there is just 2 updates really -os -games
2019-02-01 11:57
afaik we were only talking about the gaming aspects of both system. anyways, all these updates are related to general maintenance of a PC. yeah, ofc it takes more to keep everything up and running, but it is a vastly more comlex machine which can do 1 million more things. and again, most updates run in the background, they do not cost any of my time
2019-02-01 12:05
It's cheaper in the long run
2019-02-01 10:05
pc or ps4?
2019-02-01 10:07
Pc ofc
2019-02-01 11:05
pc ofc. when you pirate games, you can play basically for free, if you want that. and with steam sales, games will always be cheaper than the console version.
2019-02-01 10:10
most pirated games aren't online, (and imo immoral but i am guilty i did pirate ac origins) there is ps4 plus discounts, and if you go irl (gamestop) you can get used disks for really cheap any time of the year (24$ for ac odyssey is an example)
2019-02-01 10:16
dude, I am glad you enjoy your ps4. and for you its better than a PC, which is fine. but the majoritarian consent in the entire fucking universe is that a PC will always be better than a console. those are the facts, compared to your personal preference. /close
2019-02-01 10:19
how about instead of writing that paragraph come up with a counter argument? tbh seems like another debate won be me
2019-02-01 10:21
dude I already brought sound arguments in #169 but you ignore them or bring up shit counter arguments. any why should I bring more arguments? every sound argument (made by me or others) bounces off your chest like bullets from Superman. you already made up you mind and will not change your mind, no matter what people say. you think ps4 is better. thats the end. hence /close
2019-02-01 11:51
what exactly sound argument have you brought? That not being able to upgrade is a flaw? That's completely other way around, you buy one thing and you're not bothered with the must of upgrading for years consoles have worse graphic? No shit man, no wonder 300-400$ device has worse graphics than 1000-2000$ PC. That's the point of consoles - it has to be cheap and available for years. The price has to be reasonable, to maximize profit from selling the console and games for it. Check steam spec statistics, most of the users play on old shitty video cards. They could make high end console, but why? To lose money?
2019-02-01 15:16
i literally replied to your argument with counter arguments... - high end pc is key, why spend 1k for a little bit better graphics? - you can use mouse/keyboard - your right on that part - you dont need to upgrade
2019-02-01 17:32
#301
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Slovenia Josip09 
yeah except that's bullshit. steam sales are same as ps sales. Only thing that is true you can get keys cheaper from shady sites like g2a etc
2019-02-01 11:59
ok fair enough, I dunno the current ps store. back in ps3 times, the console game was by default 10 Euro more expensive than the PC version. back when I was buying PS3 games. and there was no ps store. if they also have this mad sales every other month, then it makes no difference
2019-02-01 12:07
For poor people who can't buy very good pc, then yes
2019-02-01 10:13
yes, imo if your rich enough to buy 1k pc you should just get 700/800$ pc and ps4 cause of exclusive games
2019-02-01 10:17
My pc is 2k I'm also have ps4 for some games
2019-02-01 11:38
Mouse and keyboard > controller also higher fps and better grapgichs on pc. The only reason I would consider a ps4 are the exclusives
2019-02-01 10:13
mouse and keyboard on ps4 higher fps if you spend 1k+ (same with graphics) and really is not noticeable unless your looking for it
2019-02-01 10:18
From 30fps to +100fps with a high refresh rate monitor is a huge improvement. Also you dont have to pay for playing online and games are genrally chepaer.
2019-02-01 11:19
on PC yes, but 30 fps doesn't feel the same on PC and PS4. People think 30fps is like locking csgo to 30fps, because they've never tried playing on consoles
2019-02-01 15:06
I have had a PS3 and have played on my friends PS4 and i know that 30fps feels better on console than on pc which I assume is because you cant really do fast movements with a controller like you can with a mouse. But it still doesnt feel as smooth as 60fps or above on PC.
2019-02-01 15:12
It is correct, but still it is very much playable. People treat it like it is an ordeal and next to impossible to enjoy it. 64 tickrate in csgo makes my experience shittier than 30fps on consoles
2019-02-01 15:18
havent tried playstations since ps2, but i never play single player games even on pc, so i guess im the extra competitive player
2019-02-01 10:14
o wow, absolutely
2019-02-01 10:19
Why even compare them ? its just stupid.
2019-02-01 10:14
you have to compare everything Na Georgia > Eu Georgia
2019-02-01 10:20
I would doubt it but I am not retard who can't accept different opinion.
2019-02-02 07:53
console only better for sports games and racing games.
2019-02-01 10:19
and GOTY games
2019-02-01 10:21
#250
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Sweden Kasidro 
the only reason for a ps4 is exclusives, the rest a PC does better
2019-02-01 10:19
if you spend 1k plus, which it makes no sense to spend an extra 700 for more than 60 fps which doesn't do anything and graphics which are only noticeable if you look
2019-02-01 10:23
In terms of game quality yes no questions. But as a device PC is way better.
2019-02-01 10:22
huge +1, no denying PC is a better all round device, but thats because they can be cheap, and mobile, add the gaming factor in and they lose there strength imo
2019-02-01 10:29
#266
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Myanmar xdcc 
In terms of games PC = strategy, RPG, MMO, MOBA, competitive FPS. PS4 = story games, action, racing, sports, fighting, casual FPS.
2019-02-01 10:30
pretty large +1 but ps4 does have almost every rpg pc has
2019-02-01 10:30
Why console is better than PC for racing games?
2019-02-01 11:11
#292
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Ukraine Najara 
can you play Forza or GranTurismo on PC?!
2019-02-01 11:26
Tell me, what's the point of a racing game?
2019-02-01 11:38
#273
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Russia TheMall 
ofc yes
2019-02-01 10:33
#283
Holo3 | 
Denmark Holo3 
0/8
2019-02-01 11:06
they have their place, but nothing is better than a pc
2019-02-01 11:09
fuck controllers
2019-02-01 11:53
The only PC problems is no GOW and RDR
2019-02-01 12:17
Actually no, the problem PC has is no excellent AAA game since 2015's Witcher III
2019-02-01 15:05
That's so sad
2019-02-02 00:13
FPS and RTS on a pad? I aren't think that;
2019-02-01 12:24
keyboard and mouse on ps4
2019-02-01 17:33
Your argument says much.
2019-02-01 12:42
your reply say so much about how much my arguments says, thanks for input!
2019-02-01 17:34
Exactly you dumbass. I don't have any arguments from your side to counter with my own arguments and logic. That's the whole point and it says enough the fact that you cannot spot and understand from the beginning something as basic as this.
2019-02-01 17:42
i cant tell if you agree with me or not
2019-02-04 21:03
lol xD
2019-02-04 21:44
thanks for clarifying!
2019-02-04 22:14
It's a very simple idea that should be understood by anyone. It looks to me that you do not want to understand it, that's why I give no further explanations.
2019-02-05 07:33
#308
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France Leskines 
Ps4 is more for casual players , pc is for experienced gamers or gamers who want To go deep in the processus , tbh i prefer ps4 because we can play it while chilling
2019-02-01 12:47
+1
2019-02-04 21:03
Bought PC only for CSGO
2019-02-01 15:11
ps3 has csgo
2019-02-04 21:04
0/8 That's some very low quality bait
2019-02-01 15:11
no bait my friend
2019-02-04 21:04
That's what a baiter would say.
2019-02-04 21:37
thats what a baiter would say.
2019-02-04 22:14
At least you agree.
2019-02-05 13:30
#325
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Poland Venox1k 
mouse+keyboard>joystick
2019-02-01 15:20
mouse and keyboard is option on ps4
2019-02-01 17:35
So is it >>> or >>? How many times better? Why? Compared to what?
2019-02-01 15:21
>>, comparing ps4 to pc
2019-02-04 21:04
I suppose you might be right, when comparing ps4 with a 10 years old PC.
2019-02-04 23:32
if you love your ps4 so much then fuck off and play on it and stop posting shitty bait threads on hltv
2019-02-01 15:39
why cry?
2019-02-04 21:04
because you're literally braindead
2019-02-05 11:20
#333
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Germany KaZo04 
Im not sure but aint pc games cheaper than ps4 games for example fifa,battlefield and cod are 10 euros more on ps4.So you will save much money when you buy many games on pc.
2019-02-01 15:49
if you get used games there extremely cheap (at gamestop for example) but if you download with ps plus sometimes there on sale, if not then in that case u rite
2019-02-04 21:05
#338
NiKo | 
India se7eNNN 
No because ps4 might be cheaper but the games cost like 60USD for a new AAA game which is too much imo. If the games were like 30USD ps4 would win over PC all day.
2019-02-01 16:17
gamestop has used versions of the game for more than 1/2 off (ac odyssey was 25$ for me), but if you want it on download you right
2019-02-04 21:06
any game that requires aiming sucks on consoles
2019-02-01 16:17
you can use keyboard and mouse, and theres aim assist
2019-02-04 21:06
well, what can we expect from burger. Brainless as always :)
2019-02-01 16:18
someone whos a fan of s1mple just called me brainless... yikes
2019-02-01 17:36
fan-burger of fluke9 talking :DDD s1 #1 and where's ur team huh? chokes against faze with ADREN XDDDDDDDDDD yikes
2019-02-01 18:13
flusha major 3 autimatic major - 1 rush major - 1 kio major - 2 zellsis/golden major - 0 zeus major - 1 rest of navi - 0 C9 - 7 navi 1, sounds familiar 7-1?
2019-02-01 18:17
who fucking cares? XDDDDD ur team choking against FAZE with NIKO AS IGL and ADREN XDDDDDD XDDD ahahahahah omfg XDDD
2019-02-01 18:21
ur team literally has the 1st and 4th best player and cant win a major, not sure what your trying to say here, if were talking about chocking vs then this hltv.org/events/3985/epicenter-2018 faze literally had KARRIGAN and yall still lost, but expected from s4mple
2019-02-01 18:31
and what? :DD Faze was much better under karrigan's igleading :DDD nt tho, fat kiddo-nolifer XDD try again
2019-02-01 20:01
please, win major then speak to me "fat kiddo-nolifer"
2019-02-01 20:26
but u didnt won a major as well, what r u talking about u ugly fat fuck? XDDD
2019-02-01 21:59
please, win major then speak to me "fat kiddo-nolifer" when navi win major you can reply
2019-02-04 21:06
XDDDD nt kiddo nt XDDD where's clown9 now btw? :DD
2019-02-04 21:11
getting better, went from like 17 to 10 final time ima say it, when navi win a major you can reply
2019-02-04 22:13
Console fags lul
2019-02-01 16:22
flair checks out
2019-02-04 21:07
#351
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Germany PeKay 
Consoles are dead
2019-02-01 16:42
PC games are dead Console games become GOTY smh
2019-02-01 17:29
Console only good for Fifa
2019-02-01 17:16
I would buy PS4 only to play Bloodborn, besides that its useless for me.
2019-02-01 17:19
#365
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El Salvador pink_dildo 
20-60 fps (assassin's creed odyssey 27 fps average OMEGALUL) (DS 3 40 fps PEPELAUGH) the list goes on shit graphics on 24+ monitors pay for online the only reason to buy ps4 is exclusives otherwise the pc is better
2019-02-01 17:24
#370
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United States Kzpif 
B8
2019-02-01 17:34
for non competitive ps4 by far
2019-02-01 17:37
yall some retards if u think console is better than pc
2019-02-01 18:20
and sky is blue
2019-02-01 18:21
MegaDrive > Saturn > N64 > Dreamcast > PS2. Sold my PS2 in 2003 and didn't touch consoles until I got a PS4 for RDR2. Been a hardcore PC gamer for over 15 years and I can't believe how fucking dumb I was shitting on consoles for the entire time.. ignorance just means you miss out on awesome games.
2019-02-01 18:23
Im a #PCMASTERER but Nintendo switch -> Everything else
2019-02-01 18:46
nintendo switch is good and has goty 2017 so semi +1
2019-02-01 18:49
PS4 over pc when you have people over or with girlfriend for sure. PS4 for single players over pc because big screen beats my GTX 1080. PC for multi players over PS4 because of lack of aiming in PS4 controllers. The older you get the more you will love console over pc tho. Especially with all those sick titles that are coming out.
2019-02-01 18:59
#402
NiKo | 
India se7eNNN 
+1 I only use PC for csgo and sometimes pubg. For other games ps4 is da real mvp.
2019-02-01 19:02
large +3, to fix the multiplayer issue you can use keyboard and mouse
2019-02-01 19:32
#412
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Switzerland Alpollo 
Only for racing games if you dont have a controller. Also the best racing game is on XBOX/PC.
2019-02-02 00:14
the best game is on ps4
2019-02-04 21:01
only for playing games while on the couch. PC is always better More of my mates play PS4 however besides one other mate who plays cs with me
2019-02-02 08:03
the reason i got into ps4 is because i have more friends on it, it seems to be the better family option > xbox
2019-02-04 21:02
only if your iq 110> and you like 30fps always and maximum )))
2019-02-04 21:07
#439
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Not true Your opinion?
2019-02-04 22:13
true, your opinion?
2019-02-04 22:27
#442
shox | 
Norway fen0m 
i love my ps4 but i love m y pc more
2019-02-04 22:15
Yeah for total nerds who only play games all day
2019-02-04 22:16
most total nerds who only play games all day are pc users
2019-02-04 22:30
#445
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Portugal csmwargod 
yes i have that opinion ps4 rules!
2019-02-04 22:19
glad to see a friend :)
2019-02-04 22:30
#446
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Poland OmgBRS 
for fps games / strategy / RTS PC is godlike. rest ez for console.. i have both so ez comparison
2019-02-04 22:21
#447
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Poland OmgBRS 
and ps4 = paying for playing online PS+, its so shit.. i have this chinese aka japanase shit only for the last of us / uncharted / bloodborne
2019-02-04 22:23
5$ a month for online games, less than netflix tbh
2019-02-04 22:28
#455
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Poland OmgBRS 
you pay for internet and still pay for playing on internet ? its stupid
2019-02-04 22:32
its not stupid? its just like a extra 5$ onto your internet fee, which it isnt like paying for internet because you can still play free online games (most major online games are free) without it, and most good exclusives are single player.
2019-02-04 22:35
Reported stupid american. go play ur fucking games at 30 fps Btw is it nice to pay every month to play online? hahahahha
2019-02-04 22:27
5$ a month isnt a lot unless your poor, is it nice to pay 1 grand just to have a pc that can run ac odyssey?
2019-02-04 22:29
Yes I paid 1.5k for my pc. A ps4 is 400 + a nice monitor around 500/600 = 1k But u play games at 30 fps with big drops while i play 100fps+ at 1080p. u can say the human eye cant see above 30 fps, well thats fucking bullshit u can see the difference and its huge. Plus u can use pc to work. and you will have to upgrade ur console when ps5 is out so.. yes i know my english sucks
2019-02-04 22:37
who tf pays 600 for a monitor? and a ps4 is 300? cant take your argument serious cause you dont know what your talking about
2019-02-04 22:39
the cheaper in my country is 300 euro... idk about your country lol. maybe my pc would be cheaper in your country too man. and my pc was 1.5k because i wanted a beast pc, u can make 1 cheaper and still better than ps4
2019-02-04 22:45
PC > PS 4 I have both because of exclusives and that's all. Ps 4 is not better at all. Shit graphics and imagine playing fps games on console where mostly all people are using aim assist and thinks that they are somewhat good OMEGALUL. Also don't even bring money into conversation because it's reatarded.
2019-02-04 22:34
cant take your argument serious when you just said reatarded
2019-02-04 22:36
Can't take any NA argument seriously because you are all retarded. /CLOSE
2019-02-04 22:37
ok reatard lmao
2019-02-04 22:40
HaHAA
2019-02-04 22:40
#461
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Netherlands @Deji 
0/8 Aimassist need skill
2019-02-04 22:38
And the worst baiter in hltv history strikes back FeelsWeirdMan
2019-02-04 22:39
#470
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Netherlands @Deji 
Do you know aiming with thumb is harder than your whole wrist
2019-02-04 22:42
Have you tried with your D?
2019-02-04 22:44
#475
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Netherlands @Deji 
Nice logic
2019-02-04 22:45
Nowhere near your autism.
2019-02-04 22:53
#462
swag | 
United Kingdom sc4rycs 
never go full retard mate...
2019-02-04 22:39
reatard* according to #456
2019-02-04 22:40
He is from na so what did you expect.
2019-02-04 22:41
1. Same price you can get a PC with more power and quieter cooling rofl 2. U can actually use a PC for important things like work but I guess those brainless terds prolly dont even have work 3. PC also has a lot of interesting exclusive games starting with every single forza game.
2019-02-04 22:43
#474
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Netherlands @Deji 
For less than €300 you can play fortnite 60fps
2019-02-04 22:45
+1
2019-03-14 17:56
ratardad 0/8
2019-02-04 22:46
8/8
2019-03-14 20:07
#481
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United States Wemaster33 
buy all 3 idiots
2019-02-05 07:34
#483
xseveN | 
Finland x7en 
FUCK U AN YOUR HOLE FAMILY U THINK WRONG KYS NIGGER
2019-02-05 08:30
wtf mad finlandernesian lmao
2019-02-05 08:39
flag checks out
2019-03-14 20:07
PC > consoles in general only reason i'm buying ps4 is to play that muhfucker final fantasy 7 remake, which is taking ages to release.
2019-02-05 08:38
#488
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
PS4 > PC only if you poor af and cant afford yourself to buy good PC lol. Enjoy 30fps btw.
2019-02-05 11:47
lmao nope, i own a ps4 just to play exclusives, but pc is far better.
2019-02-05 11:50
Can you elaborate on that?
2019-02-05 13:32
Im guessing you have bad pc..
2019-03-14 18:05
false, had a 1060 and ryzne 5, not the best but not bad
2019-03-14 20:08
#500
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Israel rvt1 
kkkkkk
2019-03-14 20:08
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