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Xantares isn't the best Turkish player
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Germany Lvl_35_HLTV_baiter 
Why is everyone talking about xantares being the best Turkish player when you have woxic , a player that has proven himself and carried hellraisers time and time again both online and LAN , without a doubt woxic>xantares
2019-02-03 14:47
#1
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United States ChrisBrown 
w0xic is better i agree
2019-02-03 14:47
+1000000000
2019-02-03 14:48
woxic>calyx>paz>tugux>xantares>irrelevant
2019-02-03 15:22
+1
2019-02-03 14:48
#5
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Ukraine mpletop1 
because xanaxtares plays for a German team and you now have a considerable amount of German fanboys hyping him up
2019-02-03 14:48
It's more of Turks than Germans but both sides are to blame...
2019-02-03 14:51
it may seem like that cuz most germans are turkish immigrants
2019-02-03 15:35
3% of germans are turkish immigrants
2019-02-03 15:44
#84
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Ukraine mpletop1 
More like 3% of the German population is actually German
2019-02-03 15:48
congratz for a 100% irrelevant reply. dont waste my time.
2019-02-03 16:01
#87
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Ukraine mpletop1 
mad german fakeflagger
2019-02-03 16:28
#104
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Australia Amazon_Alexa 
mad 3rd worlder would love to be german citizien
2019-02-03 19:42
#81
s1 | 
Ukraine mpletop1 
It is the case lmao Germany mught as well change it's name to Nordturkei
2019-02-03 15:46
#6
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Turkmenistan Ronaldofanboy 
Nign > xantares
2019-02-03 14:49
1 half of a map in and already salty guys writing all sorts of shit about big or XANTARES already
2019-02-03 14:49
Typical fanboi at his natural habitat , can't take any sort of critic , all I said was that woxic is better than Xantares , I haven't mention xantares being a bad player have I ? And if you wanna talk about match performance Xantares has choke against both c9 and FaZe at Eleague invatational...
2019-02-03 14:53
Im not agree about c9 match but you are right about faze
2019-02-03 15:10
He had like 21 frags by the end of first half against c9 and finished the game with 25 frags , only 4 frags while c9 managed to comeback , that's what I call a choke...
2019-02-03 17:10
Who did get kills on T site? You can just talk about xantares' bad t sitr because he played well on ct site. He didnt get kills on t site because gobb didnt let him free. It was first LAN and xantates listened him. If he played like himself you can see something better
2019-02-03 17:15
Doing good for one part of the game and then just falling off for the other is a choke. Don't blame gob for not letting him go free...
2019-02-03 18:14
Watch the match and say me who how much did get kills on T site from big. Then we can talk
2019-02-03 18:21
I watched the match , what's ur point ? Ur english is to broken for me to understand what you try to point out...
2019-02-03 18:41
#8
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Czech Republic Rewask 
#4 is complety right
2019-02-03 14:50
#9
2019-02-03 14:54
#20
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Czech Republic Rewask 
You talk to different people then
2019-02-03 14:56
#10
FalleN | 
Brazil zhrp 
+1111111
2019-02-03 14:50
LOLLL Xantares T1, nobxic T3
2019-02-03 14:51
-1 kardesh
2019-02-03 14:54
#37
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Turkey RFB_Kolta 
Bad bait
2019-02-03 15:11
#13
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Wox is is nasty.
2019-02-03 14:52
yes men))
2019-02-03 14:55
+1
2019-02-03 14:55
Only clueless people would say this. XANTARES destroyed w0xic many times. He's not even playing 1 month with BIG and some expect from him hard carry. w0xic plays AWP his role almost never changes while XANTRES role changed as we saw in ELEAGUE or gob b interviews. And not to forget nex is playing his first official matches after weeks again. Just look back how bad HellRaisers performed when Hobbit joined them.
2019-02-03 15:00
Yes we do ? You guys hyped him up to be a top 5 player. You remember what happened when NiKo joined FaZe ? Instant top 2 team and 3 finals in a row. I can't compare FaZe to BiG sure but a player of Xantares calibar shouldn't really need that much time to adapt and role change shouldn't be that much of a problem to a good player , a player like s1mple adapted from rifle to awp in no time , NiKo constantly changes his role for the better of the team.We just need to face the fact that xantares is a mediocre player with nothing special about him other than the hype you guys give him...
2019-02-03 15:05
0/8. Your nick is baiter but you are not trying to bait you are just clueless as fuck and serious about this one so I'll explain why. NiKo played for mousesports before and his english was good. Not a big deal for him to join FaZe. And to write that s1mple adapted from rifle to awp just shows that you didn't see him playing back then. Even s1mples english in Liquid was much better than XANTARES.
2019-02-03 15:17
0/8 NiKo's situation was the same as xantares situation , he played online most of his life and joined a tier 1 team instantly adapting to the roles and becoming thoer main carry. And I remember s1mple being the best player so what was that about s1mple ? Again 0/8
2019-02-03 15:19
0/8 because you are not funny 0/8 because you have "baiter" in your name but you don't even try to bait you just write your real clueless opinion. 0/8 again because s1mple was always good with the AWP and rifle so he didn't need to adapt to anything. 8/8 for me because i teached you something.
2019-02-03 15:25
K bye Nice edit tho , went from 0/8 to insulting me really quick , I guess you just wanted to ignore but since you aren't mature enough you just had to insult me Cheers for you fella
2019-02-03 15:24
lol we all watched both in tr scene so we all know who is better ? And stop comparing Awper and rifler. If you even ask it woxic he would probably say xantares lol
2019-02-03 14:58
I'm not comparing them as players I'm just comparing their worth , woxic has proven himself better at a better scene and is contiueing to be one of the lead carries of HR...
2019-02-03 14:59
#31
shroud | 
Canada sukuful 
You didn't give enough time to prove himself
2019-02-03 15:09
One trait that a good player has is the ability to adapt fast , NiKo for example has that ability , made FaZe a top 2 team the instant he joined , s1mple adapted to his awp role in no time...
2019-02-03 15:14
#51
shroud | 
Canada sukuful 
Niko had rain(best version) and guardian(not best but decent). Xantares has tabsen, what can he do?
2019-02-03 15:17
Wym ? NiKo had allu , kio and karrigan at the time , that's worse than having tabsen and nex and gob b and yet made them top 2 just with his arrival...
2019-02-03 15:27
#80
shroud | 
Canada sukuful 
Kio was in his form at the beginning
2019-02-03 15:45
#33
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Turkey jakrak 
+1
2019-02-03 15:10
#22
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Turkey starzb1 
+1 younger and better :))
2019-02-03 14:58
yes woxic is so much better than bottares, idk why hype too big on this guy
2019-02-03 15:00
+1
2019-02-03 15:06
#27
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Turkey Thunderball 
+ 1 M
2019-02-03 15:07
completely different type of players. its like comparing prime kenny to prime shox. i personally enjoy watching mini as he is a mini version of twistz
2019-02-03 15:08
Stfu kids woxic awper xantares entry rifler you stupid
2019-02-03 15:08
#30
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Portugal Sabymby 
nono, Paz > woxic + xantares for sure
2019-02-03 15:09
xantares > paz > woxic /close
2019-02-03 15:10
#35
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Poland zJe 
>compare awper with fragger LUL
2019-02-03 15:10
And you're retarded...
2019-02-03 15:15
#49
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Poland zJe 
>insult someone LUL expected from german /close
2019-02-03 15:16
/open U're still retarded /close
2019-02-03 15:46
I think it's hilarious you guys talk shit about xantares
2019-02-03 15:10
And I think it's hilarious you think I'm hating on the guy , I haven't mentioned xantares being a bad player have I ? If I say s1mple>devve I'm not hating on devve I'm just saying that s1 is better than device , simple as that...
2019-02-03 15:17
#38
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Sweden R4Z_RiGhT 
in Turkey best aim xantares but best player woxic
2019-02-03 15:11
#39
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Europe Xuleldar 
woxic has better game sense.
2019-02-03 15:11
xantares = scream good aim = good aim overrated = overrated
2019-02-03 15:12
no brain = no brain btw
2019-02-03 15:16
#41
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Turkey tastemycobra 
It is too early to talk... gob b always choosing their weakest maps. Obviously they are still trying some things before the major. These games don’t show much really. We’ll have a more solid idea until summer.
2019-02-03 15:12
Yeah I guess
2019-02-03 15:25
woxic is the best turkish player already why would you made a thread man? :D
2019-02-03 15:14
#45
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Poland SebaRost 
+1 XANTARES is good, but woxic >>> XANTARES
2019-02-03 15:14
- watching debut matches of big - comparing awper vs fragger choose one
2019-02-03 15:16
Man , I really don't want to insult you Turks cuz cya in 10 but can't you just take a fucking critic ? Have I said xantares was bad ? Have I even mention BiG in this thread ? God fucking damit making a thread that involves Turks in any way is a pain in the ass...
2019-02-03 15:22
#62
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Turkey tastemycobra 
You re criticise him for not takşng criticism and you dont take criticism yourself lol wtf
2019-02-03 15:26
You don't understand , I'm taking criticism for something I haven't done , I haven't insulted xantares yet I'm criticised for doing so , I haven't called BiG a shit team yet I'm being criticised as if i did so. You see the problem ?
2019-02-03 15:29
#68
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Turkey tastemycobra 
That guy you replied said nothing, he didnt insult or anything wtf
2019-02-03 15:31
Fair point
2019-02-03 15:34
its too early to say woxic > xantares. at least we should see them in a big tournament. I also didnt mentioned that u said bad about xantares.
2019-02-03 15:27
Fair point
2019-02-03 15:30
#54
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Russia TheMall 
ofc woxic better
2019-02-03 15:20
rather say that xantares ain't the most successful turkish player
2019-02-03 15:22
woxic_1_major_playoff_XANTARES_0_major_playoffs
2019-02-03 15:24
#70
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Turkey Thunderball 
well said brother
2019-02-03 15:34
Thanks bro.
2019-02-03 18:16
hardstyle>woxic
2019-02-03 15:29
Woxic lan = xantares online
2019-02-03 15:37
I wish he (xantares) wouldve joined HR in place of DeadBOT. Would've been good move for everyone imo
2019-02-03 15:37
+1
2019-02-03 15:38
+11
2019-02-03 15:39
#77
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Latvia Agbetchok 
Turk is best city
2019-02-03 15:43
+1 for the flair
2019-02-03 15:54
#83
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Qatar FeelsDadMan 
+1
2019-02-03 15:47
#89
woxic | 
Turkey EPHESUS 
true woxic > xantares
2019-02-03 17:12
woxic is way better
2019-02-03 18:17
#98
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Turkey darknight53 
I think paz is better than both , rifle level like xantares , awp level same with woxic , pistol level godlike
2019-02-03 18:44
+1
2019-02-03 19:57
#99
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Turkey Experium 
+1 w0xic > Xantares better game sense better english better consistency
2019-02-03 19:38
+1
2019-02-03 19:38
w0xic playing for HR like 2years? Xantares playing for BIG like 2 weeks? Whats the foundation of this comparission?
2019-02-03 19:41
Cuz xantares is supposed to be top 5 material but no one really talks about woxic , and if you go and see his stats , most of his games he will top frag and sometimes even hardcarry , that's the foundation...
2019-02-03 19:59
thats why noone talks about him, he has proven himself already everybody wants to see how xantares can perform in t2/t1 level constantly he can aim brutaly good, so the exspectations are high
2019-02-03 20:10
I think people forget about W0xic because he went international a time ago. When people think about turkish players, their mind jumps to the Ex-SS guys
2019-02-03 19:41
+1
2019-02-03 21:08
woxic is already best Turkish player.Anyone can't change this oppinion.
2019-02-03 20:04
#109
XANTARES | 
Germany k0ri 
xantares is way better than woxic just he needs time
2019-02-03 20:09
Flair checks out
2019-02-03 21:08
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