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I really hope Astralis don't win the major
Japan DeletedAccount12341234 
I think most of you can agree that this amount of dominance from Astralis is overwhelming. I hope they dont even reach the final of the major so we can see some action-packed and most importantly UNPREDICTABLE CS in a major final again. I used to like Astralis as a team and their players but right now I just want to see a big final without Astralis in it and without a team that is predicted to win by 99% of the fans and 99% of the time actually ends up winning. I know some of their fans will call me butthurt or mad and stuff like that, but honestly I just miss finals like the E league major final last year man
2019-02-03 22:46
relax, mibr will win
2019-02-03 22:47
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Europe porrasm 
nt but deep down you know ence will win
2019-02-03 22:50
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
nt you know its time for NA 2nd major
2019-02-03 22:53
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Europe porrasm 
but ence isnt from na so you must be mistaken
2019-02-03 22:54
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
your computer must be hacked. 'win' isnt in ENCE dictionary...
2019-02-03 22:58
+1
2019-02-03 22:59
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United States flybywire12 
+1
2019-02-03 23:27
ENCE have won 2 tournaments.
2019-02-03 23:42
#39
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
uhmmmm.... fluke!.... yes fluke!!!!
2019-02-03 23:47
At least choking isn't in their vocabulary lul
2019-02-04 00:32
What u mean Liquid or choke9 have never choked xddd
2019-02-04 00:48
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Slovakia twat 
Decent attempt yet Faze will be the actual champion
2019-02-03 23:05
#28
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
anotha nt. but time 4 guardian to retire. let NA beat EU
2019-02-03 23:21
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Slovakia twat 
my mom told me ur dumb and she made me strawberry pudding so shut it
2019-02-03 23:40
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
ughh. at least have a choco pudding
2019-02-03 23:48
#73
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Slovakia twat 
You know what they say, strawberry pudding eaters shag while choco pudding eaters 3 stones drag
2019-02-04 07:09
#80
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
never even heard that before. wtf
2019-02-04 20:12
Is strawberry pudding actually a thing?
2019-02-04 00:42
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
IKR
2019-02-04 06:59
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Slovakia twat 
Saw it in a supermarket few days ago but never tried it
2019-02-04 07:04
Applesauce.... strawberry sauce..?
2019-02-04 08:12
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United States litdabber21 
NA will only win major if canada annex finland
2019-02-04 01:18
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Portugal csmwargod 
i also think mirb will win this :P
2019-02-03 23:06
#64
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Brazil Vitor_IS 
Made In Rbasil
2019-02-04 01:30
+1
2019-02-03 23:26
#53
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Denmark DanishDelight 
Mirbr = Brazilian Ence
2019-02-04 00:44
It's pretty difficult to repeat a major win. Teams can easily get hot in the playoffs and knock the favorites out. I don't think they'll win Katowice.
2019-02-03 22:47
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United States DervGuy 
Personally, I don't mind that they win. Like you said, if the others teams are able to have an amazing game against them, and not topple over like FaceIt , that would be great. Even if Astralis do win, I just hope we get fucking hype games, and the hype-ass final Katowice deserves.
2019-02-03 22:49
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Germany Stuttgart 
you think boringstralis has a chance against mibr with TACO and felps?
2019-02-03 22:50
Oh man imagine if MIBR go back to their 2017 form with TACO and felps, MIBR vs Astralis will be one hell of a game to watch, actually I dont mind that being the final
2019-02-03 22:52
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Germany Stuttgart 
Yes but i doubt it. They have the same roster back but FalleN and fer are shadows of their 2017 form. Will most likely be like fnatic after godsent fiasco. JW, KRiMZ, flusher olof and dennis are a team again but could never reach their old form until they split up
2019-02-03 22:54
I agree fer is nowhere near his old form, but Fallen does repeat those legendary games here and there, but imo there is a lot more to it, will they have the same chemistry? will Cold play like the 2017 Cold? will fer be able to step up? and btw Fallen will need consistency, you cant win a major with good performances once in a while
2019-02-03 22:57
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Germany Stuttgart 
cold played like 2017 cold all year. Check his ratings they are only a little bit worse which can explained with tacos absence and lack of motivation during the end of the year
2019-02-03 22:58
I dont usually base things on stats, I watched alot of SK/MIBR last year, Coldzera just wasnt quite the star he was in 2017, he turned up towards the end of the year and had some insane games and clutches, he still has it in him, but it has to be an all around team perfection from MIBR to take down this juggernaut Astralis
2019-02-03 23:02
PGL Major flashback Astralis will 2-0 them any day
2019-02-03 22:52
lmao dont ruin the hype
2019-02-03 22:53
lol
2019-02-03 23:17
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Germany Stuttgart 
I tried so hard to look forward to the major and you use facts. Screw you
2019-02-03 22:54
Why do you call them boring? To me what is boring is that the other teams are way behind Astralis most of the time, so I want them to improve and be a threat to Astralis. Faulting Astralis for playing to well is silly, by that logic banning any players that are above average would be the thing to do.
2019-02-03 23:12
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Asia CritStarrHD 
sometimes the most structured cs is the most boring cs, thats why faceit major was so boring astrali's dominance in faceit made it the most boring major in cs, in the other hand eleauge major 2018 was amazing coz every just ran in and took 1v1 duels and other shit like that. cs in chaos is the best cs.
2019-02-04 07:10
As astralis fan I have to disagree :D But I also think that more close matches would be nice. Overtime Games like Boston Major
2019-02-03 22:55
as an astralis fan i respect this because you are not hating on them. you just want to see something different... respected <3
2019-02-03 23:01
<3
2019-02-03 23:04
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
It would be cool if they do so
2019-02-03 23:04
Easy for Gambit
2019-02-03 23:15
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Other khorkalba 
Dominance? Last year they failed to win 3 out of the 4 biggest events: ELEAGUE major (Cloud9 won it) IEM Katowice (Fnatic won it) ESL One Cologne (NaVi won it)
2019-02-03 23:19
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
fnatic and NiP were more dominant in terms of big events won. Astralis may or may not have an "era" currently, but the comment you are replying to doesn't make a ton of sense in that regard, anyhow. Na'Vi, FaZe and NiP were the only three teams to consistently beat Astralis, that is obviously before North beat Astralis in two separate BO3's in DreamHack Stockholm; one of those very games saw Astralis being dismantled 16-1! hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/73177/.. I think the Major will be closer than everybody assumes.
2019-02-03 23:26
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United States RyxxyR 
I don’t think consistently beat is right. More like occasionally beat.
2019-02-04 00:22
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Actually that is a valid point... Nobody "consistently beat" Astralis back then, just more teams than most. NiP will forever be the Danish Kryptonite, though. Even back when TSM had a winning-streak of 10+ in a row, NiP were the one to shut them down at FragBite Masters. Beating them on d2 and then inferno. A fun fact: To this day, the core of Astralis has NEVER beaten the core of NiP at a CS:GO Major before. Copenhagen Wolves, Dignitas, TSM-- they've taken a map off of NiP, but never successfully beat them. Now the tables have turned and honestly I want to see the two in the Grand-Final prove who can overcome their demons the most. :P
2019-02-04 00:44
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
So it's obvious you never saw NiP during 2012/2013 or fnatic during 2015 if you don't like Astralis being dominant now. The best team will win... Obviously Astralis being that very thing currently, but it's honestly a pleasant change from the mish-mash of under-performances from the previous year. Coldzera and co. may have stole the top spot, but CS:GO in 2017 was all over the damned show. Every team was winning and nobody was consistently dominating for a long time. 2017: Boring. I want a dominant team like fnatic/NiP 2018-now: Boring. I want more balance. HLTV, make up your minds... Your opinions respected, but at least keep them consistently critical at a common sense level.
2019-02-03 23:22
I watched NiP dominate from 2012 to 2014 and as a 13-15 year old fanboy(back then) I enjoyed it so I can't really comment on that xD. But in that fnatic era, their playstyle was nothing textbook, they had massive comebacks, they did crazy shit like the overpass boost and they played such a random highlight-full CS that it was almost enjoyable to watch them dominate(even tho they had just stolen the spotlight from my favorite team). With SK they were not as dominant as Astralis, at some points their dominance was pissing me off but they werent winning or reaching the final in basically every tournament they participated in like Astralis has been doing, they had their downs, and they had also close entertaining games that they looked like they would lose but ended up winning. By the way 2017 was not boring bcuz one team wasnt dominating everybody, it was boring bcuz litterally EVERY GOOD TEAM was shit in 2017, we had teams like Gambit and Immortals playing the major final, NiP in one of their worst times during CSGO managed to beat FaZe in IEM Oakland final even tho FaZe had just signed Olof and Guardian and everyone was expecting an era of dominance from them which never happened. 2017 was boring due to lack of good teams performing, not the lack of one team dominating
2019-02-03 23:43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
That's the thing, it's the opposite of boring. CS:GO will always provide entertainment in the masses by being an interactive experience everybody can join in on, Astralis being the best team in the world currently is simply them working their arses off to achieve this. "NiP in one of their worst times during CSGO managed to beat FaZe in IEM Oakland final even tho FaZe had just signed Olof and Guardian and everyone was expecting an era of dominance from them which never happened." If you remember correctly, they flunked out of the ELEAGUE Boston Major with Kjaerbye, had a rocky start with Magisk and then went on to gradually show AND prove they were the team to beat. It started off as a winning streak, then tournament wins started coming in and then the Major afterwards... They were a team who were knocked out of the first CS:GO Major of 2018, made some adjustments, came back and then went on to win the next Major. Your comment simply highlighting how one team can become the best team, even if it's just for a single series -- akin to world-famous upsets as we've seen in the past. That in itself is an endearing tale of how any team can be at the top and any team can have the confidence, experience and resilience to perform; to become the best in the world. How Astralis' dominance can be boring to you is beyond me, same goes for 2017 as that one of the best years for CS:GO in terms of new talent arising. "2017 was boring due to lack of good teams performing, not the lack of one team dominating" This is a double-standard... What is the difference between your post and 2017? What is entertaining CS:GO for you if one team dominating is boring and clearly so is the opposite? I really do not get your post as Astralis were not as dominant as NiP or fnatic (according to me anyway), but at least your comments/points portray your love for the game, it isn't just a random whinging without genuine thought. So for that, at least, I'm thankful for an engaging discussion about one fan to another of CS. :)
2019-02-03 23:53
I agree with some of your points, however, I made this post based on my frustration on the lack of hype and entertaining games due to Astralis dominating basically every final they play. In my response to some others, I have mentioned that fnatic and SK's dominance was more fun to watch because they did not play the (IMO) repetitive textbook perfect CS that Astralis is playing. About 2017, you either got my point wrong or I wrote it the wrong way, I was disappointed with 2017 because of all the expectations not happening. We had a dominant SK entering 2017, they did not perform anywhere near their standards(not that I minded them falling off a little after so much dominance but still, keep reading), The FaZe rebuild with so much hype did not work at all, if anything, FaZe got worse in some ways after those changes. Everybody was expecting the ex major winners Astralis to get back in form and challege SK, people were hoping fnatic would get back in form to challenge SK, none of these happened because SK dropped off, Astralis almost didnt exist let alone challenge the juggernaut version of SK, fnatic never showed up and ended up losing Olof to end all the hope for their return, NiP continued their shit form(except IEM Oakland) and add to that the fact that NA teams were shit during most of 2017. The upsets and new talents rising was good, but it was not what the fans were hoping to see and thats why AT THE TIME it was not as fun as it sounds today to see big upsets like the Krakow major. Hope you get my point about 2017 now
2019-02-04 00:14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I got your points clearly the first time friend, you didn't need to explain yourself at all. You essentially said exactly the same thing, but with more detail, which was already present in your aforementioned post. esports as entertainment is always like this, but Counter-Strike was one of the most watched since it's arrival. Basically epitomising esports alongside Quake, Team Fortress original and the original DotA MOBA. Simply complaining about it won't change the versatility or madness that comes with a game like Counter-Strike. The reasons you find boring are the exact reasons it's entertaining to watch, as I pointed out previously the development of teams being seen live in the flesh. If you personally find it boring then that is your opinion to be respected, but despite your points being noteworthy, I have to disagree in that I find zero boredom in watching CS. Never have and I've been playing/watching the game since 2002. xD
2019-02-04 00:21
Cool to hear, feels like we are looking at the same thing from different perspectives imo, I'm more about my feelings and how I would enjoy it more if this and that happened which effects my judgment on whats boring or not. While you see the whole thing from a more logical perspective and see the whole picture rather than judging it on personal expectations. I was 3 years old in 2002 :) but started playing CS source around 2010 I think, and slowly got to know the pro scene. it was nice to have a chat with you anyways :)
2019-02-04 00:38
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Ah, the pleasure is all mine, friend. The beauty of forums like this one is the difference of opinions and how one can engage in pleasant discussion, utilising the internet at it's maximum capabilities. ^^ So thank you for proving why HLTV is still the number one forum worldwide for engaging Counter-Strike discussions. ^^ Have a good day, friend. It's after midnight in Sweden. xD
2019-02-04 00:46
haha thanks, goodnight to you too, I study and work from home so my sleep schedule is all over the place xD
2019-02-04 00:58
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Ah, same here then, friend. xD Mind you, mine is self-employment to an extent.
2019-02-04 00:59
I study part-time from home atm preparing for university that will start in August, and I do online work. also the government here pays you for studying xD
2019-02-04 01:14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Yeah, Sweden is very economically constructive. ^^ My best wishes for your University studies coming through for you, friend. :) May I enquire as to what it is you're studying? :)
2019-02-04 01:16
Thanks, I'm studying computer science, since I wanted to take a 1 year break between high school and university I chose to take some preparation courses to be more prepared, have a ''thing going on'' and at the same time earn some free money :) It gave me time to get my driving license too xD and watching CS is my number 1 hobby, I guess I was a glory hunter to support Nip back in 2012 but have stuck with them in good and bad :)
2019-02-04 01:25
What if it’s an Astralis vs FaZe final
2019-02-03 23:23
lmao Liquid already above astralis, its over for them TL top1 ez
2019-02-03 23:29
I can understand that you want to get an exciting final like the surprising Cloud9 vs FaZe final at the boston major, but tell me what the word "Competition" means for you? If no one is able to defeat Astralis more often than once occasionally, then no one else deserves to win, thats how it is. I am, for my part, enjoying that Astralis won so much 2018. Just remember the problems they had at their former organisation TSM, and at the early days of Astralis. The Atlanta Major win was also pretty close, could have also been a win for Virtus Pro back then. But this year, Astralis was by no doubt amazing, and even as a NaVi fan, I can say that Astralis was much better in nearly all encounters between each other (at least I was able to enjoy the Cologne win). Top teams like MIBR, Liquid, NaVi, FaZe and many more failed to beat Astralis multiple times in a row. But don't worry, all the Teams are probably ashamed of always losing to the danish squad, so they will surely do everything to deny Astralis the next major title. The Katowice major will be awesome, for sure.
2019-02-04 00:05
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World Jeza 
I mean, I'm OK with Astralis not winning Major, but it means a lot more if the team that wins beats them in the final tbh.
2019-02-04 00:16
Idc who is in final. I just want it to be interesting
2019-02-04 00:23
NA CS will rise STewie2k 2 time major winrar
2019-02-04 00:29
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Denmark DanishDelight 
Stewie2k will only win another major if he makes a new team with Jugi2k, Autimatic2k, Wardell2k and Bntet2k
2019-02-04 00:49
Don't worry, G2 will win it
2019-02-04 00:50
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United Kingdom daneclaw 
We all know that Grayhound and Renegades will play in the final.
2019-02-04 01:30
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Croatia Kikilitaf 
+1
2019-02-04 01:39
Ez 4 fnatic
2019-02-04 07:01
I guess I think about it differently than you do. I think it’s awesome to have a team that’s so dominant, it has the potential to create some really hype moments at the major. Think of how sick it would be if TL conquered them in a semi-final or if astralis was on the ropes in the group stages. The bigger they are, the harder they fall
2019-02-04 07:03
They won't Fnatic or faze will
2019-02-04 07:06
+1
2019-02-04 08:29
No team at the major can beat Astralis except MAYBE Liquid because all roster changes has been shit. Maybe after the major if teams make finally some real changes (Na'Vi or FaZe please, I have no hope that mibr or sweden will change something) to beat Astralis.
2019-02-04 07:06
all right liquid or astralis top1. Navi cant win them without roaster changes. Faze did worst roaster change ever. Mibr with roaster of january 2017 (WHY OMG?!).... No more other strong teams.
2019-02-04 07:16
Sad isnt it
2019-02-04 07:34
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
don't worry they won't even get out of groups
2019-02-04 08:13
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