work -- 70%
talent -- 30%
Csgo is all about luck, nt
if you think they got 4k hours overall in counter-strike then you're clearly idiot, expected from poortugal btw
if you work and are not talented, you'll be aight
if you work and are talented, you'll be great
if you don't work and are talented, you'll be bad
Exactly. You're either born with or you're not. You can still be good without talent and lots of hard work but you will never be top1
intelligence > hard work > talent
most people have more than one account though so wouldn't count on those hours xd...
I like to think that hard work is about maximizing your talent. It can be used to surpass more talented people, but only to a certain extent. If someone is too far ahead of you in talent, then you'll never pass them no matter how hard you work.
Talent is actually the ability of a person's brain to develop certain abilities more easily than the rest. With that applying hard work comes an exceptional result.
stupid word talent
they just better and faster learn how to play cs
theres no such thing as "talent", it's only hard work and inteligence, if you're dumb and lazy you'll be bad at something, "talent" is what dumb people use as an excuse for their failures
From my experience:
No work + talent < Hard work + no talent
but as soon as:
Medium work + talent > Hard work + no talent
Talent without work < Work without Talent
Talent with Work > Work without Talent
Side point worth mentioning - when Fnatic won Katowice last year they didn't train for the event at all as a team.
It confirmed something I suspected about Fnatic for a long time... that they started losing because they lost confidence in their individual talent and felt they had to compensate by bootcamping and overthinking the tactical side of the game.
Messi = talented
Ronaldo = product of training
Messi > Ronaldo
s1mple = talented
coldzera = product of training
s1mple > coldzera
there is a misconception about that, you can become a proplayer with 4k-6k hours if its done in the same year, thats about 12h per day.
The thing is csgo was released in 2012, so its not dificult to find ppl with 4-5k hours on lower level, what most of them doesnt understand is player that can pull 4k hours in one year will be much higher level than playing 4k spread in several years.
If you can pull 12h/day doing MM and faceit or esea at the end of the period there there is a great chance you will be starting playing qualify for decents events and if you can manage endure this routine in two years you will be winning some of regionals qualify, 3-4th year for major events.
Cs is 70% hard work, 25% social skill (you have to know how to deal with teammates) and 5% luck.
hard work can only help you to a point and then you hit a plateau.
your learning curve is almost flat at this point.
you need talent for raw skill and also to process information and make the best decision quickly
in each situation.
any average guy can hit lvl 10 with hard work. like 3-4k hours.
but many of them will never get fplc, even if they play 10k hours.
Have you ever heard the saying "Perfect practice makes perfect"? Just because someone has 10k hours, and another person is better than them at 4k hours, doesn't mean the 4k hour dude is more talented or has some natural ability. He probably just practiced in a more efficient way.
ez 166ms reaction time retarded underdebeloped average plebs
Hard work is not measured in hrs, it's about the quality
Comparing time played is dumb considering 1 person can waste it and not use it effectively.
Don't misunderstand hard work with hours playing cs:go without brain.
You have to be a complete retard to think they're mutually exclusive.
this is fucking stupid.
zywoo and sergej only have 4k hours because they used their time in the game efficiently. That goes double for zywoo; he's been active since just three years ago.
This number oh hours thing is retarded.
- People could've used another account (or even accounts) in the past.
- People still can have an alternate account nowadays.
- Some people plays 100% serious and focused all the time, while others take it for fun, trolls, etc. So, you can make yours hours worth and some can't. 1000 hours is not only 1000 hours, two persons can use them in very, very different ways.
talent is a real thing whether you like it or not
How many of those hours are afk or not practicing seriously i mean it takes talent to practice efficiently
I wonder how much time pro players spent on hltv before making it.
Let's just browse hypothetical or unrelated forum posts as opposed to grind out practice hrs.
Yiu are all wrong
If you have talent but dont put into much hours you'll still be good
If you hard work but dont have talent, you cant get good as a guy with talent
If you want to be pr, at least you need talent
Hard work can beat talent only if the talented one doesn't work hard...
it all depends in how you waste your hours
are you stpd bro ? They have 4k hours because theyre kids . 6k hour difference happens when they are playing with toys. it will equalise when they reach other pros age.
device its the pure example that u dont need to be talented to be a top player at this game :>)
or flusha in prime,xyp9x,etc
Depends on how those hours are used and when they are used. 4k hours over the span of 6 years is different from 4k hours last year. And 4k hours training and playing with high level people is different from 4k hours on mm or playing community servers.
I got No talent and with 6k hours the best i achiebed was getting to supreme