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VALVE what doink
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
Why do you have to use exact currency to sell ketowice pass to regions? (in turkey it is exactly according to currency) 1 dollar = 5.2 liras in usa ketowice pass = 10 dollars in turkey ketowice pass = 52 liras this is not how the economics work. you cant use exact currency to sell a item from another country consumer.
2019-02-07 12:21
So you want it in 10 in your currency ?
2019-02-07 12:23
#2
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
nope. 25 - 30 liras would work
2019-02-07 12:24
#96
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Germany hatrez 
Go and thank erdogan
2019-02-07 15:05
+1
2019-02-07 17:08
#118
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
+1
2019-02-07 18:05
+1
2019-02-07 18:46
#143
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Germany 2k19 
+1
2019-02-07 19:14
#42
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India Thepotat 
I mean it's 700 plus for us
2019-02-07 13:09
How much it is? 700 rs?
2019-02-07 13:10
#69
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India Thepotat 
Little above I haven't checked it from the game yet
2019-02-07 13:28
According to #31 its Rs699
2019-02-07 13:50
#97
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India Thepotat 
Still can't afford it
2019-02-07 15:41
Im retarded, are you saying because the us dollar is worth more your paying more than what other countries would be?
2019-02-07 12:25
#4
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
im saying im paying more than i could afford. 10 dollars mean 10 chocolates 10 chocolates in turkey = 25 lira. not everything can just be explained by currency in economics.
2019-02-07 12:28
#5
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
im now paying like 20 chocolates in turkey for a pass but someone in usa is paying 10 chocolates for pass you get it ?
2019-02-07 12:29
this is why you use big mac rule men)) so 35 liras
2019-02-07 13:02
#87
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Netherlands BornyHitch 
nt, but that's how international economics work. the value of 1 dollar isn't the same everywhere with product from you local store, but on the internet you pay the same for the same product.
2019-02-07 15:01
some steam games have different prices in different regions.
2019-02-07 17:04
#127
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Poland misterr_ 
+1 but situation in turkey is different, because of some moves of their president their currency is so bad atm
2019-02-07 18:12
But the raw material used for turkey chocolate may be much cheaper than the material used for chocolate in the US. That's why the price difference.
2019-02-07 13:17
he is right. exact same products have different prices
2019-02-07 18:07
#81
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Norway VemRawr 
They're not gonna make it cheaper cuz you're poorxd
2019-02-07 14:34
almost every company does
2019-02-07 18:07
#105
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India pm_oldmonk 
dude it's a virtual item in an online game market. even if u gotta equate with other commodities, compare using skins... if it's worth 10 skins in us it should be worth 10 skins in ur country .. which is basically how currency works but i gotta dumb it down for u >_<
2019-02-07 17:07
old 20 dollar games are 40 tl new 20 dollar games are 120 tl (but mostly steam still converts it correctly so we can buy games, it's rarely like this) their new card game is about 110-120 tl. what a joke..
2019-02-07 12:55
#6
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France p2l 
They can't because the souvenir drops you will get for these 10 dollars are going on the global market It's not the same thing as the games price
2019-02-07 12:30
#8
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
this is kinda logical i agreed
2019-02-07 12:31
valve cheeky fucks, said csgo items have no monetary value, but they keep adjusting prices to real market
2019-02-07 12:31
#9
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Norway rogueplayer 
Well in valve's defence they are still a company that needs to please their shareholders
2019-02-07 12:34
valve is a private company and isn't listed on the stock market
2019-02-07 12:48
#109
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Czech Republic realProkda 
That doesn't mean that they don't have shareholders
2019-02-07 17:14
#10
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Algeria RunGo 
1$ is 200 algerian dinar
2019-02-07 12:35
#16
China o_O 
lmaooo
2019-02-07 12:38
#17
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Algeria RunGo 
we are out here dying in algeria RIP
2019-02-07 12:41
#122
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Canada top_zozzle 
rip
2019-02-07 18:10
#11
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Finland Comethazine 
well fuck you m8, why would it be cheaper for you just because you earn less?
2019-02-07 12:36
thats how prices on steam work too...
2019-02-07 12:37
#15
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Finland Comethazine 
i know and FUCK STEAM for this
2019-02-07 12:37
its a matter of supply and demand my friend
2019-02-07 12:50
are you braindead ? 60 dollar titles are %25-30 of the minimum wage here when it's converted directly. That's why regional pricing exists. If you are willing to pay half of your wage just to buy two games i can support you, but if not, stop talking shit about something you don't know.
2019-02-07 12:59
#82
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Norway VemRawr 
apperently turks dont have a good education system either lul you make 0 sense
2019-02-07 14:44
he makes sense for people that are able to read.
2019-02-07 17:07
How is that exactly ? I'm explaining regional pricing which is a feature of steam. How does that make me uneducated ? Just be a good little boi and get the fuck outta here i don't want to argue with a 12 y.o on hltv.
2019-02-07 18:04
i know american school system doesnt work well but cmon its basic economy knowledge
2019-02-07 13:16
'murica braindeads, you know "Eeeeh i don't want him to pay lesss, thats not fair meeeeeh"
2019-02-07 13:53
#25
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
you dont need any opinion how economic works dont you
2019-02-07 12:55
LOOOL, its a good deal bro, much better than buying stickers, i had to spend 15$ more to get Gold for my boston. I didnt do pick em for london because the pin looks ugly anyways
2019-02-07 12:37
#21
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
i know it is a good deal bro. my point is totally different
2019-02-07 12:52
Well, if Trump presses the red sanction button again.. You might buy it for cheaper.
2019-02-07 12:37
Humm, because turkey has an unstable currency.
2019-02-07 12:52
#22
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
its been stable for 6 months now
2019-02-07 12:53
It's not permanently stable. It may stay stable for couple of months, but it will start losing stability over time.
2019-02-07 12:56
in steam store 1 dollar is mostly equal to 2-2.5 tl but in reality it's 1 dollar = 5+ tl. The problem is valve suddenly started to price valve's content using the current conversion rate, 20 dollars worth of content was 40tl and now it's 120tl, basically prices are tripled now for valve's content (this includes new valve games like artifact, and in-game items of csgo, dota 2, tf2 etc.). Apart from that Steam community market always uses the current conversion rate so prices are always high there, but it's not a problem for anyone since it's not necessary. But valve's pricing policy have changed for some reason and if hl3 comes out i'll probably have to waste half of my wage to buy it.
2019-02-07 13:04
#23
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Finland Jodecast 
Blame your shit country for it, its their fault
2019-02-07 12:53
#27
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
why are all finnish people here so toxic. like every one of you
2019-02-07 12:57
#72
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Finland Jodecast 
toxic? is telling the truth being toxic now lol
2019-02-07 13:38
>shit country >not toxic pick one
2019-02-07 13:55
#90
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Belarus @Bitly 
It's still the truth.
2019-02-07 15:03
Did he said it's not the truth? nop, he said he was toxic. That's the truth
2019-02-07 15:05
#98
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Finland Jodecast 
Well if you cant accept the sad truth then cry :)
2019-02-07 16:56
I am crying so much, i'm so sad you know :') 12yo
2019-02-07 16:58
10 US dollars is worth about 52 Turkish Lira.. Source: xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount.. So the fair price is 52 Lira.. Why are you mad? That is exacly how economy works lol.. If you are mad about the Lira loosing value you should be mad at your president not Valve.
2019-02-07 12:59
#33
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
no its not how economics work. you will understand me when you gradueate from highschool and get in a university and maybe you will have an economics lessons
2019-02-07 13:03
hahaha dude I have an degree so gtfo. You are basically saying that you want the Katowice pass to be cheaper in Turkey than in the rest of the world.. The global price is 10 dollars.. But you want it to be cheaper in Turkey and only Turkey?
2019-02-07 13:05
#40
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
no i want valve to consider regional pricing. and i recommend you my graduate frriend that please dont have words about topics you dont have any ideas. have a good day
2019-02-07 13:07
So I am right? You want the price to be lower in Turkey compared to rest of the world?
2019-02-07 13:09
#43
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
no need to argue with you. dont have any idea about economics.
2019-02-07 13:10
Because I am right :)
2019-02-07 13:11
#48
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
hltv.org/forums/threads/1977144/valve-wh.. correct answer is here . you are ignorant. have a nice day . i need to work.
2019-02-07 13:12
Reginal prices are for poor countries. Do you even make 10 dollars a month on your work? GL
2019-02-07 13:13
#56
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
currently im not making money cuz im still a student. but when i do no matter which country i live probably i will make more money than you ty :)
2019-02-07 13:15
hahaha... i make $7000 a month before taxes.. If you make more than that I will be happy for you :)
2019-02-07 13:18
#65
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
hmm probably if i choose a surgeon department yes i will easily make more money. if i choose internal medicine or pediatrics sadly you will be richer than me :(
2019-02-07 13:20
Not really.. A surgeon takes what? 8 years to become? During that 8 years you study I make a lot of money and you will have no chance of catching up.
2019-02-07 13:23
#83
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
unluko maluko
2019-02-07 14:54
Its the case for all products though. A can of coca cola isnt the same price in turkey as it is in my country or yours. Prices in turkey are low in comparison to us and so are their wages. If we dont adjust prices for them (and A LOT of other countries), hardly anything will be sold there. its very basic economy.
2019-02-07 17:11
in steam store 1 dollar is mostly equal to 2-2.5 tl but in reality it's 1 dollar = 5+ tl. The problem is valve suddenly started to price valve's content using the current conversion rate, 20 dollars worth of content was 40tl and now it's 120tl, basically prices are tripled now for valve's content (this includes new valve games like artifact, and in-game items of csgo, dota 2, tf2 etc.). Apart from that Steam community market always uses the current conversion rate so prices are always high there, but it's not a problem for anyone since it's not necessary. 60 dollar titles are %25-30 of the minimum wage here when it's converted directly. That's why regional pricing exists.
2019-02-07 13:06
Actually I found the pass pretty profitable, here in India: 1$ = 71 rupees and I got the pass worth 10$ for 699/- rupees. Also we don’t have to purchase stickers in pick em challenge, so save money there + atleast 2 sovenirs are confirmed (3 if you’re good at predictions) The souvenir price will depend on the market but we will definitely get our money back.
2019-02-07 12:59
#35
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
yes the pass thing is good. my point is different
2019-02-07 13:04
Its same as buying mega bundle like other majors for us
2019-02-07 13:12
uhm, can some1 tell me what this pass thing is? what r we talking about
2019-02-07 13:00
#53
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United States AproximateCS 
Check the update log. It's for the pickem
2019-02-07 13:14
#36
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Vietnam Oida 
I agree this is a problem. 10 dollars can be a lot of money for people outside America or Europe. Valve also usually doesn't do this. For example steam games are cheaper in SEA or Russia.
2019-02-07 13:04
Mostly due to lower taxes in those countries
2019-02-07 13:06
Most steam games are really cheap for us, but when it comes to in-game items it's completely different. 10 dollar games are 18-20 tl on steam but in steam market 10 dollar items are 50-60 tl. 1 dollar is 5+ tl now but Valve uses different pricing for games (except for ubisoft and other big companies' games they are still ridiculously expensive). Valve started to price their new games (artifact) using the current conversion rate, it should have been 40tl since it's 20 dollars but their new game is actually 110tl. But valve's other games are priced by regional pricing so they are cheap.
2019-02-07 13:13
#45
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Turkey BlackDynamite 
if they do it u can buy pass for 20 lira and sell it back for 55 lira on community market. so its not possible.
2019-02-07 13:11
#47
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
yes someone here said it and it is logical ty
2019-02-07 13:11
Steam Store mostly uses 1 dollar = 2 tl conversion. Steam Market always uses current conversion. if 1 dollar was equal to 2 tl tomorrow you would pay 20tl because it's not a game it's an in-game market item, so the price always changes.
2019-02-07 13:16
#51
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Bulgaria Gulasczek 
if they make csgo cheaper it would be kebab strike ching cykavensive
2019-02-07 13:13
it's already free, so...
2019-02-07 13:16
#54
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India PussyHound 
If Lord Gaben wants 10$ , he wants 10$ . Doesnt care which currency . Is that clear ?
2019-02-07 13:15
#84
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
sir,yes sir
2019-02-07 14:55
#55
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Europe potatomato 
10$ = 52 liras , wtf is your problem?
2019-02-07 13:15
Steam Store mostly uses 1 dollar = 2 tl conversion rate. Steam Market always uses current conversion rate. in steam store 1 dollar is mostly equal to 2-2.5 tl but in reality it's 1 dollar = 5+ tl. The problem is valve suddenly started to price valve's content using the current conversion rate, 20 dollars worth of content was 40tl and now it's 120tl, basically prices are tripled now for valve's content (this includes new valve games like artifact, and in-game items of csgo, dota 2, tf2 etc.). Apart from that Steam community market always uses the current conversion rate so prices are always high there, but it's not a problem for anyone since it's not necessary. 60 dollar titles are %25-30 of the minimum wage here when it's converted directly. That's why regional pricing exists.
2019-02-07 13:18
#64
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Europe potatomato 
you realise that Valve doesnt set steam store prices?Also you cant do regional pricing for marketable ingame items , because it will mess up the community markets economy
2019-02-07 13:25
I guess you don't realize there's a thing called regional pricing. Valve doesn't set prices but they do the conversion. 10 dollar games should be 50tl right now but they are 20tl. Steam converts prices differently in some regions to allow people to use their services. If games would cost more than twice as much nobody would buy them. Minimum Wage was around 1600 tl i think and 60 dollar games cost between 300-400 tl. It doesn't make sense as you see.
2019-02-07 13:26
#73
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Europe potatomato 
like i said you cant do regional pricing for ingame items.
2019-02-07 13:41
I was talking about game prices. Since you said 10$ = 52tl i told you about regional pricing. I know ingame item prices shouldn't be regional priced.
2019-02-07 13:46
#76
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Europe potatomato 
topic is about viewer pass not games
2019-02-07 13:48
#115
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Denmark lulgod 
you're lucky you get all that cheaper than us. Stop crying
2019-02-07 17:35
It's cheaper for you if you directly compare but it's still expensive if you factor in the wage difference. For exanple you earn 30 and you pay 3 for games, we earn 10 and pay 1 for games. Yes it's cheap but you only look at the price, there is more aspects to it than just that. I'm not complaining about anything since the system works good enough.
2019-02-07 18:09
#128
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Denmark lulgod 
ITS NOT CHEAPER FOR US? And why should we factor in you earn less? that's your problem, not ours. Just because you earn less you're not entilted to get cheaper games
2019-02-07 18:12
You obviously don't understand what economy is lol that's hilarious.
2019-02-07 18:16
#132
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Denmark lulgod 
I do. I just think it's stupid seeing you cry over paying the same as us
2019-02-07 18:17
Nope, i'm just getting games "cheaper" that's all. Do u think i'm really going to pay for some virtual stickers ? lul
2019-02-07 18:19
#137
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Denmark lulgod 
I don't care if you buy stickers.
2019-02-07 18:25
I see what you mean but they can't make an exception for one country, changing the price for turkey would force them to change for anyone that complain afterwards
2019-02-07 13:18
#68
Poland neyd 
But that's how it works. Turkey earns less than most western countries, so it has a harder time affording the 10$ price tag. That's why Valve should make people in countries with lower income pay less, it would mean that more people will buy the product from that country = probably more money for Valve in the end
2019-02-07 13:27
#70
2019-02-07 13:28
They actually change prices of the games since they are just buy and play, but since steam market is international they can't reduce the prices of items because you can re-sell it for more and make profit out of it. Games are fairly cheap for us considering the current economy but i agree with you that they shouldn't change item prices.
2019-02-07 13:28
Thank Mr erdogan
2019-02-07 13:43
#80
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Czech Republic B0barian 
Just checked, I paid 8.75€ for the pass 8.75€ = 9.88$ I stole money from Valve.....
2019-02-07 14:29
#86
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Belarus @Bitly 
What an alpha.
2019-02-07 14:56
legendary..
2019-02-07 15:03
#104
NiKo | 
India se7eNNN 
I also stole 0.2 USD from valve xD
2019-02-07 17:07
#85
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Belarus @Bitly 
Wtf is Ketowice, btw it's 21.6 BYN here.
2019-02-07 15:00
u tebya market v BYNah?
2019-02-07 15:05
#144
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Belarus @Bitly 
No, the market isn't in BYNs, USD, but I converted it.
2019-02-07 20:02
1000iq 4Head
2019-02-07 20:05
#146
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Belarus @Bitly 
Yep because whenever I buy a game from Steam I have to convert the $ to BYNs, so I actually know how many BYNs I will pay.
2019-02-07 20:09
#88
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Germany hatrez 
Ofc they can do
2019-02-07 15:03
ketowice
2019-02-07 15:03
I'm not watching this shit, I usually fell asleep while doing it anyway too boring lmao
2019-02-07 15:04
lmao just get money.
2019-02-07 15:05
#100
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Norway FaZe_s1mple 
0.001iq
2019-02-07 17:02
#102
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Turkey Kebapmaster 
omg that too much for me
2019-02-07 17:04
#101
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Brazil Boldro1965 
What this katowice pass does?
2019-02-07 17:03
well: -you get ability to take part in pickem challenge, no need to buy stickers of teams as you will get them for free (only available to use in pickem tho) -ability to do missions that will upgrade your coin (which is pretty much a trophy now) -after getting enough missions you can redeem your souvenir from a match of your choose (at least I heard that it works like this now) (3 max) -you will get every graffiti (as long as major is played) that you can use -free team flairs on steam.tv
2019-02-07 17:20
#142
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Brazil Boldro1965 
Sheet. This gud stuff, no counting that Gaben do everything for more money. Whatsoever I can't participate, too much study. I actually unistall csgo :((((
2019-02-07 19:12
#113
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Denmark lulgod 
haha you want it to be cheaper for you than everyone else? So because you're somewhat poor you have some right to pay less than us? No wtf, if you can't afford it then don't buy it. SIMPLE
2019-02-07 17:28
2 iq, unexpected from denmark
2019-02-07 18:11
#125
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Denmark lulgod 
How exactly am I wrong? You're just defending the other turkish guy because it benefits turkey if it were cheaper
2019-02-07 18:11
That's not about turkey it's a system applied to many countries. For example russia gets games cheaper than us, look at the prices at sites like g2a. Let's say a worldwide game key costs 10 bucks, when you buy a russian region locked key which only can be activated in russia, you will pay like 3 bucks for the same game. That's a system used worldwide. It's also used in uplay and other launchers too.
2019-02-07 18:15
#134
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Denmark lulgod 
I get how it works.
2019-02-07 18:18
You actually can, when the cost of delivering the product is the exact same, as it is with a virtual item like this. Being US based, and privately owned also allowed Volvo to do whatever they want. I personally applaud them doing this, as 50% of the revenue is split with the teams, most of which use USD as their daily operating currency. you also need to understand the economy based in CSGO itself. If they sold you a virtual item that can be resold for less than they sell that exact item to someone in another country, it makes your item potentially more profitable if someone from the USA invested a bunch of money into a Turkish account, bought the stickers on the inferior currency, then sold them for US currency. example: 1 sticker in US for $1 USD ( just a simple cost comparison ) sold a month later for $1.50 USD(hypothetical steam market value) = $.50 profit. 1 sticker in Turkey for 2.6 turkish Liraa ($.50 USD value) sold a month later for $1.50 USD(hypothetical steam market value) = $1.00 USD profit Now imagine doing it hundreds, or even thousands of times... I wonder how many money launderers would take advantage of such a flawed system.
2019-02-07 17:31
#116
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United Kingdom Johal 
youre paying 52 cents less
2019-02-07 17:35
Paying for pixels, that is.
2019-02-07 18:11
#131
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United Kingdom Johal 
Ok, you would spend about the same doing just pickems anyway, so what's the difference?
2019-02-07 18:16
My point was buying it is stupid imo.
2019-02-07 18:17
#135
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United Kingdom Johal 
Ok
2019-02-07 18:19
who gives a fuck what happens in turkey lmao.
2019-02-07 18:11
lol dont cry turkyman. its your own fault if u guys let someone like erdogan be president, topkek
2019-02-07 18:40
#139
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United States Venom_ 
Get a better economy smh
2019-02-07 18:42
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