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Communism dumb
ninja | 
Albania BunkerBoy 
People you might didn't know that they supported communism or socialism because the media don't want you to know about this: Albert Einstein Pablo Picasso Tupac Shacur George Orwell Nelson Mandela Charlie Chaplin John Steinbeck Nicolas Tesla Mark Twain Helen Keller and many more but i guess i can stop here now. if you think communism is a stupid thing you should think about how smart those people were. the media just made communism a different thing for your mind than it is in reality, its crazy what people sometimes think what communism really is. go read marx, just as a source, give it a chance, his books are for free now a days, use it.
2019-02-07 14:50
Belarus @Bitly 
Zzzzzzz Nothing new.
2019-02-07 14:53
China wusif 
interesting yes great topics you make, high iq for sure
2019-02-07 14:55
ninja | 
Albania BunkerBoy 
it was my little brother
2019-02-07 14:56
United Kingdom Ginoe 
2019-02-07 14:57
2019-02-07 15:17
Netherlands Wdym_wdym 
2019-02-07 15:04
George Orwell thought communism was good, until he discovered the terrible authoritarian nature of it. He then went on to become one of its greatest opponents you dolt.
2019-02-07 14:55
Slovenia kivoJ 
I knew they supported it because they weren't brainwashed like kids of today and they were able to choose on their own without the parents bias because they were actually smart and talented people. Nowadays herds will never know the feeling of self completion.
2019-02-07 14:56
What's good about communism?
2019-02-07 15:01
It's for the people, for everyone, not for individuals like in capitalism case. If you strive to develop and socialize in the community of well known people, if you're a honest person who knows justice, communism is for you.
2019-02-07 15:04
Are you sure that you're grandparents (ancestors) didn't suffer because of communism? Don't know much about Slovenian history. Oh wait, Yugoslavia had the better communism, now I remember
2019-02-07 15:06
Only the dishonest and filthy people suffered from communism. You're foolish to make claims because it's right to think that way today. But you were born into this, it's for long. I just prefer to think for myself.
2019-02-07 15:08
I also think myself. I am a mediocre at school. But I am an individualoist. Never understood why share something if others didn't do anything. Also, my father almost got rejected by university because none of his parents were members of the Party (the only existing back then political party - communists, of course) If that system is for the people, does it mean that my father wasn't a human?
2019-02-07 15:12
Your university is not the communism headquarters, it may have its own rules and orders. Also I think they gave him the reason why, they're in the position to do so. He was of course a human being, I believe a very good one. But in the present time, there's no Communism in Europe.
2019-02-07 15:16
They didn't give him any reason, just reject. In Czechoslovakia was the hard communism. If a resistant person had children, they weren't given any real education. Why? Because "state" said so. You live in delusional Communism, the one, that actually works for people. But once people rule, they rule for themselves, they don't care for regular people. Also: You couldn't just travel to different state without a ticket. If you didn't like the regime, the ticket wasn't possible to get
2019-02-07 15:20
You told me he was rejected cause of his parents. Whatever. Communism is really hard to get rolling but once you did it, you live in prosperity and the country rises to the stars. We know bright examples but it didn't last long. Neither does any other modern idealogy though. Whatever whoever likes more.
2019-02-07 15:24
Well, the university can't write: "The reason for not accepting his application are his parents. If they were members of the Party, that would be different" But you are right, that they don't really need to give any reason for their final decision. I believe in ideology of City states and democracy, that seemed quite working. The problem with communism: People get lazy, especially once they build "the perfect world". They stop any research, inventions and contra-evolucion is on the scene (nah, it won't. Communism never worked long enoug for that to happen)
2019-02-07 15:32
Democracy is failing much harder than communism now. Spawning things like 100 genders, acceptance of gays and lesbians, be more freaky to be more loved and etc. No, it's surely not the way for a healthy society. Anything but that. Communism is 50/50, just like capitalism. Whatever you like more. But I would choose Monarchy or Imperialism, it's tested with time and very structured to have success in the long run.
2019-02-07 15:36
I mean the real democracy: People free to vote: Older 18, paying taxes People don't understand democracy, back in the antique Greece that was a completely different story. I would make an AI that would rule over us all
2019-02-07 15:40
Big wish but even bigger the intention. Whatever way, if the goal is good, it shall be reached. I would serve for the greater good, but I won't bow for criminals.
2019-02-07 15:43
But how do you decide, who the criminal is and is not? Especially in today's world where rich people can pay the medias to write about them good...
2019-02-07 15:46
By common sense and logic. That's what you can trust in. Believe your human nature, it's very audible and visible when people are lying.
2019-02-07 15:49
Not with everyone. Some people can lie without the bad feeling (I am actually one of them), without the stress. People like this mostly become politicians. They lie and gain money (for that basically).
2019-02-07 15:51
I can do so too in conversations but when your whole career is a lie, you cannot hide it anymore. Stories will be fake, gestures plastic, words played. Lie doesn't live long. All liars fall fast.
2019-02-07 15:53
That comes for the most people. But some lie to themselves even without knowing it. They lie about their life, mentality, qualities... themselves. At that moment, they are not liars anymore, they are shadows, nobody.
2019-02-07 15:57
Yes. They can't accept reality, very weak people. Doomed to fight the blank wall forever. I go to sleep now. Goodbye.
2019-02-07 16:02
Are you really Slovenian? Goodnight.
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2019-02-07 16:05
Communism is great, but the thing is its really hard to build a country up in that way, and therefor people usually get greedy and start making it more of a dictatorship. Basically it works on paper really well, but really hard to put into the real world
2019-02-07 15:07
"Communism is great but it doesn't work" I guess that you aren't a pragmatic
2019-02-07 15:08
Not saying it doesnt work, but its really hard to get it to work and it takes loads of dedication and trust in eachother
2019-02-07 15:09
Yes, but it worked for some countries in some periods of time and the results are very visible.
2019-02-07 15:09
Yea but then greedy fucks started fucking it up xD
2019-02-07 15:16
Just like in any other idealogy basically? Capitalism is just as easy to fall, Imperialism and Monarchy is what can last.
2019-02-07 15:17
You forgot God Gaben and his hippy company named VOLVO without any capital shares available for investors but only for employees nor a classic corporate hierarchy. But imo, communism is not the solution as it can't fix some trivial issue such as motivate people in crap jobs. So socialism, in its actual definition, (capitalistic economical system with heavy redistributing mechanism and State intervention to show the path to take) would be the best way to improve humanity lives and probably the only system possible to save our environment from ending like in Mad Max.
2019-02-07 15:01
acid | 
Estonia MC_Ride 
stopped reading at george orwell
2019-02-07 14:57
He really was a Communist but he was against Stalinism, that's why he wrote "Animal Farm"
2019-02-07 15:13
acid | 
Estonia MC_Ride 
socialism isnt communism
2019-02-07 16:17
"they supported communism or socialism"
2019-02-09 11:07
Czech Republic Wer_ 
Yes he was socialist not communist
2019-02-07 19:41
Why do you think that smart people support smart regime? Can you prove your "communism supporters"? And communism is dumb 0/8
2019-02-07 14:59
Socialism > Capitalism > Communism
2019-02-07 14:59
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
your > mom > gay
2019-02-07 15:01
no u
2019-02-07 15:01
From a global perspective : +1 From an individual perspective, capitalism is better if you are among the privileged.
2019-02-07 15:03
Agreed mon ami!
2019-02-07 15:05
socialism and communism is the same thing lmao
2019-02-07 15:10
Nope lmao
2019-02-07 20:34
Yes, Marx defined socialism and communism to mean the same thing.
2019-02-07 21:50
Do you think that everything Marx says is correct?
2019-02-08 05:01
literally retarded
2019-02-07 15:19
Nice argument fucktard.
2019-02-07 20:34
before we can argue you have to understand the words you're using
2019-02-07 22:02
Some sources for these claims would be nice
2019-02-07 15:00
"Albert Einstein was widely known during his lifetime for his work with the theory of relativity and physics in general. He was also an important peace activist, a world federalist and a socialist. " "In 1944, Picasso joined the French Communist Party, attended the World Congress of Intellectuals in Defense of Peace in Poland, and in 1950 received the Stalin Peace Prize from the Soviet government.[69] Party criticism in 1953 of his portrait of Stalin as insufficiently realistic cooled Picasso's interest in Soviet politics, though he remained a loyal member of the Communist Party until his death." "Tupac Shakur joined the Young Communist League in Baltimore as a teen in the late '80s. He was dating Mary Baldridge, the daughter of Jim Baldridge, the chairman of the Communist Party of Maryland at the time and his wife, Margaret Baldridge. Ironically, Tupac Shakur and his "white girlfriend" participated in an "antigun violence campaign" spearheaded by life-long "activist" Truxon Sykes.[1] Though murdered in September 1996, in the famous East Coast West Coast hip hop wars, Shakur's revolutionary memory lives on in Baltimore. The Young Communist League branch in the city is named the Tupac Shakur Club in his honor ." "Orwell joined the British Independent Labour Party during his time in the Spanish Civil War and became a defender of democratic socialism and a critic of totalitarianism for the rest of his life." Etc..
2019-02-07 15:12
You didn't link anything for those last 2 quotes, but I appreciate it anyway.
2019-02-07 15:13
Because as I was copy pasting I become lazy, just put them on google to find out the source. I took wiki quotes but there is plenty. I also used names he gave in order so I couldn't be blamed for cherry picking names in his list (and I had no idea if Tupac was true or not). Take notice that communism and socialism then may not be actual communism and socialism (for exemple, what is today communism? The DPRK? Cuba? China? not meant to rule occidental communist party?) What is common with all their view and today definitions, is at least an heavy regulation of a capitalistic system.
2019-02-07 15:22
India mak4u2 
flag checks out
2019-02-07 15:04
China ene1nz 
Communism is when at the end of the day noone gets good.
2019-02-07 15:06
SS | 
Japan NotTrik 
Communism is a terrible, garbage thing. Those people may have loved communism because they believed in a utopian society in which communism would flourish. There is no such thing as that utopian society, and there will never be such thing. It’s a myth, that people genuinely believe will happen. Communism will never work due to the unpredictability of the human mind. Communist society will end up being a society of authoritarianism or totalitarianism.
2019-02-07 15:12
Israel BingoBango 
stfu retard
2019-02-07 15:12
2019-02-07 15:14
SS | 
Japan NotTrik 
Yeah lmao is this guy retarded? Orwell was a socialist
2019-02-07 15:15
he was socialist, thats true but he didnt like totalitarianism.. which is pure communistic shit. :D
2019-02-07 15:17
France nico0o 
marx is absolutely worthless in todays society. read some anthony crossland instead
2019-02-07 15:15
2019-02-07 15:21
That's why the only school we have to read and analyze Marx are the top economical schools such as HEC, Science-Po, etc.. in your country. His analysis of society still stand, perhaps today more than ever.
2019-02-07 15:26
France nico0o 
how? where is the mass outcry at the exploitative nature of late-stage capitalism? the false consciousness has totally prevailed, the atmosphere for revolution of the working masses (which no longer even exist in the post-fordist economy) is completely non-present. marx's predictions have run out of time to occur, if communism is indeed to come about it will come in a very different shape to the revolution & dictatorship of the proletariat as predicted by marx. his model of the 'working masses' doesn't exist in the west anymore
2019-02-11 21:29
Sweden WhisperingEye 
These people weren't politicians. Sure they were really smart but just because you're good at one thing doesn't mean you're good at something else. Look at countries that have communism right now, great countries right? Move to North Korea then you dumb shit. Communism sucks.
2019-02-07 15:24
Politicans are mostly not the most smart persons but people with the most greed being mighty. I would rather trust Einstein than any politican, einstein don't have any reason to lie about politics.
2019-02-07 17:09
communism was awesome, all the communists weren't allowed to leave their communist countries
2019-02-07 15:28
you can leave china and cuba without any problems.
2019-02-07 15:49
chinese and cuban people are not a problem in Europe
2019-02-07 17:21
shroud | 
Australia saumyax 
Yes YES YES ! SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT OMG I LIKE LITERALLY LOVE YOU <3 Yes because a person is good in a certain subject, of course hes gonna be the smartest and have the best opinion as well as best ideas and knowledge as well as experience in Political Science ! OF COURSE IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE I like how you start with the fact "so media will never tell you this but this was actually the case" I will also start with something similar : So guys, the media doesnt want you to know but this is a true fact i just didnt made it up dont even try to fact check it on google because remember media doesnt want you to know this so u wont find it anywhere basically all these people : Albert Einstein Pablo Picasso Tupac Shacur George Orwell Nelson Mandela Charlie Chaplin John Steinbeck Nicolas Tesla Mark Twain Helen Keller these guys werent the gender we knew, they were the 54th gender and also they believed in racism as well as they werent humans they were gods Trust me on this i know this media doesnt want to let you kn0ww 0/8 try again
2019-02-07 15:34
Panama xemzex 
WTF lost all respect for them
2019-02-08 05:10
i dont care about history
2019-02-07 15:52
These political systems (capitalism, socialism, communism etc) were conceived hundreds of years ago... Can we acknowledge that the world has changed a lot since then? Use your own heads. The secret to a good society is probably something beyond capitalism and socialism. It's mostly about labor, which we need less and less of.
2019-02-07 16:09
There were much famous people who were supporters of Stalin. So Stalin was good? There were also much famous people who were supporters of Hitler. So Hitler was good? There were much famous people who were denying the Armenian and the Greek genocides. So there were no genocides? There are much famous people who are supporters of Putin. So Putin is good? It's very common mistake and it's called "an argument from authority". The fact if someone famous and successful supports something means nothing.
2019-02-07 16:22
Stephen Hawking was a anti-capitalist, also MLK
2019-02-07 17:04
didnt knew but kinda expected from a guy this smart
2019-02-07 19:39
hawking was anti-zionist and boycotted israel
2019-02-08 08:12
Vietnam rollofocker 
what a bad post. you can find smart people who support capitalism as well. second we always have to look for the situation those people grew up in. also citing media manipulation as an argument is done by all sides. no doubt the media favors PC topics more than suppressing communism. maybe in the usa this is different but in europe the idea of socialism is well accepted.
2019-02-07 17:07
Albania jamboo 
2019-02-07 19:41
no, hoxha did nothing wrong.
2019-02-09 11:02
Albania jamboo 
Si more nuk boni asgje te keqe a je normal
2019-02-09 11:15
People are so ignorant they think any tax payer funded programs are communism, meanwhile cops, firefighters, medicare, ect are all paid by tax dollars
2019-02-07 19:43
If those old important people have a bit of intellectual honesty they will never support communism nowadays!
2019-02-08 05:30
I'm sick enough of hltv kids talking about politics
2019-02-08 05:30
Why do you click on these threads then ? As politic rules their live, I like to see young people interested by it. It is better than let other handle it.
2019-02-09 11:23
They don't handle it
2019-02-10 10:49
Every journey start with a first step.
2019-02-10 14:13
allu | 
North America hesh 
u guys are gonna feel really dumb for supporting communism when you finally grow up and have a family.
2019-02-08 09:56
not gonna happen lol
2019-02-09 12:36
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