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Portugal astacp 
1200 euros budget (1360 dolars) i want i7 9700k and i will be using my 1050 ti for now and wait a few months to upgrade the gpu so i will be saving the money on this one. also need 144hz monitor. what should i buy? do i need 1600 power supply? is 2400mhz ram enough?
2019-02-09 13:00
#1
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Brazil HLTV_POORLACK 
to much overkill with this cpu
2019-02-09 13:00
+1
2019-02-09 13:08
#15
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Brazil HLTV_POORLACK 
2019-02-09 13:16
#26
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Portugal astacp 
thx for your time sir, it looks good enough for me x)
2019-02-09 13:38
go for a cpu cooler and safe your money
2019-02-09 14:45
Are you going to be gaming exclusively or also doing some video editing or something? A 9700k would be a little overkill. I'd recommend a 9600k instead.
2019-02-09 14:48
#53
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Portugal astacp 
its for gamming mostly but one day i might realize how good streamer i might be x) the point is that i want a machine good enough for the next years and not having to replace cpu's or gpu's every 2 years.
2019-02-09 15:47
#50
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Europe GuardianC4 
replace water cooling with air, add saved money to better ram and better ssd (samsung).
2019-02-09 15:16
so fuckin cheap fuuuuuuck i'm envy
2019-02-09 15:18
#52
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Brazil HLTV_POORLACK 
yes he's budget is 1200euro and he wants i7 9700k with 144hz monitor
2019-02-09 15:23
#44
s1mple | 
India se7eNNN 
+1 I am using a i5 9600k and ez 400-500 fps
2019-02-09 14:57
#45
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Brazil HLTV_POORLACK 
can u give me ur specs?
2019-02-09 14:58
#46
s1mple | 
India se7eNNN 
i5 9600k OC at 4.8 ghz RTX 2060 16GB ddr4 dual channel RAM Z390F asus rog 750watt modular psu 240gb ssd 2tb hdd
2019-02-09 15:00
#2
AmaNEk | 
France Sylr 
Bottleneck
2019-02-09 13:04
Bottleneck is a racist term.
2019-02-09 13:16
pcpartpicker.com/list/7Lq3J8 9900k + monitor of your choice
2019-02-09 13:08
#6
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Portugal astacp 
shouldnt i use 1x16 instead 2x8 rams? also 650W seems like to low to handle that cpu :/
2019-02-09 13:10
1. no 2. fair enough, for safety reasons you can go with this pcpartpicker.com/list/zKMcsZ
2019-02-09 13:12
#12
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Portugal NabasKi 
tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1779716/8g.. a little explanation on how it's better to get 2x8 instead of 1x16 (they are talking about 8gigs instead of 16 but it still applies)
2019-02-09 13:12
1. No, your cpu has 2 memory channels meaning that with 2 sticks you can get twice the speed (at least in theory) 2. It isnt too low, 9900k has a TDP of 95w so it uses probably max 130w overclocked
2019-02-09 13:16
1. That's really not how it works, dual channel memory offers a negligible performance boost and won't make a difference in game fps
2019-02-09 13:55
That is how it works IN THEORY. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memo..
2019-02-09 14:04
So why are you telling him something that only works in theory and not in practicality?
2019-02-09 14:08
Because its going to offer more performance either way and it isnt more expensive. There is not reason not to get dual channel.
2019-02-09 14:11
NEGLIGIBLE performance increase. Using 1 stick leaves more ram slots available and makes upgrading easier in the future There is no reason to get dual channel
2019-02-09 14:22
2019-02-09 14:23
Of course it's going to be a bigger difference with 8gb fuckhead, are you retarded?
2019-02-09 14:33
You're literally picking all the videos that suit your argument, I have been on YouTube before and I have now to double check and found a whole load more videos saying that there's barely any difference, pull your head out your ass
2019-02-09 14:43
I literally typed "dual channel vs single channel memory" on youtube and those were the first videos i picked. Show me some benchmarks that show prove your point and maybe I'll believe you
2019-02-09 14:46
Find them yourself you lazy twat lmao
2019-02-09 14:52
Ok here you go hardwaresecrets.com/does-dual-channel-me.. Not a YouTube video but whatever Sometimes dual channel drops performance
2019-02-09 14:54
Fair enough tho thats DDR3 and i would imagine that the difference is smaller on it because of the lower speeds.
2019-02-09 15:03
Go with 2x8 And 650 should be able to handle almost any gpu with that cpu aslong as you don't overclock to much but if you wanna be on the safe side just pick up a 750 watt one 1600 is way overkill For instance I have a i7 with an 1080 with 550
2019-02-09 13:17
#7
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Portugal NabasKi 
why not the 970 Evo instead of the 860 Evo? It's worth the extra 20$ imo
2019-02-09 13:10
Meh, who cares. You won't notice a difference anyway + he still wants to buy a monitor.
2019-02-09 13:14
1600 power supply? weird flex but ok
2019-02-09 13:09
#8
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Pakistan ostraka 
A 1600w PSU could power all of Lisbon lmao
2019-02-09 13:11
#11
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Portugal astacp 
kkkkkk i was just asking what is good enough to handle a cpu like that. have no idea actually :S
2019-02-09 13:12
#9
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Finland hltv_pc_expert 
"do i need 1600 power supply?" You mean 1600w? :D:D no you dont I would get faster ram, 2400mhz vs 3000mhz has a noticeable performance difference and it isnt much more expensive
2019-02-09 13:12
Cheapest way is to go with a hamster running on a tread mill to power it but to each his own.
2019-02-09 13:18
#23
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Portugal astacp 
yeah ofc i mean watts :D ive read before that from 2400 to 3000 it doesnt really affect the game performance but it seems i need to do some research on the topic :D
2019-02-09 13:28
#19
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Czech Republic @me 
lmao u sure you can build a pc?
2019-02-09 13:17
550W is more than enough, but if you buy a RTX 2080 or something like that go for the 650W. Also get 3200Mhz Ram. Mainboard is more Important than the PSU. 9700 generates alot of Heat, you should invest in a good Mainboard with good VRMs. Gigabyte Z390 Boards have the best value. Go for the Z390 Aorus Pro or Aorus Ultra. I have the Aorus Master which is really good if you wanna OC to the Limit.
2019-02-09 13:21
650w Powersupply is more than enaugh. your cpu + Gpu (depending on 150ti model) will need around 400W, so 650 is fine. you do not want to get a too powerfull supply, because you will run into some issues. haveing it run at around 80% load is ideal. Even if you upgrade your gpu in the future 650W will be fine. a 2080ti for example needs less than 400W + 100W cpu and you have more than enaugh leeway. If i can give you some other advice on power supply: For me the upgrade to a modular one was really big. simply helps a lot with cable management, especially if your case is a rather tight fit. 2400mhz ram is enaugh for now. you can look up benchmarks for ram. it does make a pretty small differance but if you dont have the money right now it would not be a priority for me. Also for CPU. what do you use your computer for? only gaming? because being on a budget you should take a look at the the 8700k. both are (comfortably) overclockable up to 5ghz. what are the prices in your country for the cpus? because in germany the 8700k just lowered its price back to where it used to be (around 330€) wich is about 100€ less than the 9700k so a pretty good deal if you compare price and performance. if you play csgo 100% get a (at least) 144hz monitor. going higher is worth it in my opinion if you have the money. but the difference between 60hz to 144 is insane and from 144 to 240 its only minor. but 144hz monitors are really cheap, 240 are really expensive. hope that helped.
2019-02-09 13:36
For easy guidance on what PSU to get look at pre-build system, there you'll see you do not need anything really special PSU wise. Focus on getting a good one and go for like 600w and you'll be plenty fine. Also why do you want such an expensive CPU for. Few games are very CPU intensive so money are better spend on GPU, and you'll get more CPU power for your money going with AMD - not the least because AMD motherboards tend to be cheaper and also offer a better chance of working with a faster CPU down the line (Intel changes their CPU sockets a lot). On RAM. In many setups 2x8 will be faster than 1x16 in others it won't matter. I can't think of a situation where 1x16 is the better way, except it leaves room for adding another module, only with 8gb total still being fine and 16gb thus leaving headroom the need for more than 16gb may be a long time coming (at least for gaming). Finally get an SSD, a 256 GB will do and a 512 GB is better. Put the OS and most used programs on the SSD and it will make for a much snappier experience.
2019-02-09 13:53
#49
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Portugal astacp 
yeah im aware that amd is doing better in a price/performance relation and honestly i think the 9700k is too much because i dont program, edit or stream (at least right now). my idea is to build a machine good enough for the next years so i kinda want the best cpu on the market right now so i dont have to change everything in 2 years or something like that. i think im gonna go for a 250gb ssd and another hd just to put stuff that is not games or the os. what motherboard would you reccomend? some guys said on thos topic that the 9700k heats a lot and that i should spend more on a decent cooler and board.
2019-02-09 15:13
psu should be around 500W if you want a 1050 ti and that cpu, but pls dont buy that setup. its a huge bottleneck. Its better to buy an i5 9600k for example, paired with a 1070 ti or something in that range
2019-02-09 14:25
#48
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Portugal astacp 
i already own a 1050ti thats why im gonna keep it for now and upgrade in a few months, perhaps when some new model is realeased and the other prices go down a bit.
2019-02-09 15:07
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