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Why Astralis = Boring Team
Europe Heavon 
..I don't have the answer to that, I was hoping you have it!
2019-02-10 22:47
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Finland sadmen)))) 
because danish people are boring
2019-02-10 22:48
Thx. Astralis isn't boring, what is boring as the other teams are not near their level so most of the time Astralis wins easily.
2019-02-10 22:58
Nope, that excuse about "the boring thing are the other teams" doesn't apply. The astralis era is boring, period. Can't even compare to Nip, Fnatic or SK era.
2019-02-10 23:04
SK never had an era though
2019-02-10 23:22
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-02-10 23:46
ok 2 years of domination means nothing I guess
2019-02-10 23:52
I think they had one in 2016 but in 2017 they didn't win majors and had many droughts. Also they weren't the same.e team through that whole period
2019-02-11 02:48
they were trash in 2017 wtf
2019-02-11 14:00
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Thorin | 
Sweden ezwuo 
2019-02-11 14:08
late 2017-2018 they were horrible sry i remembered wrong 😎😎😎
2019-02-11 14:11
They didn't dominate for two years. They were the team to peak the most during those years. But they were not a consistent top 1 team for two years. Astralis has been top 1 consistent for most of 2018, a place they still hold. 9 months+ and counting. 70 weeks in total including earlier top 1's. SK have 58 weeks in total, and a much shorter stretch as consistent no. 1. Astralis have the better stats, no doubt.
2019-02-11 14:09
“Domination” -0 majors 2017
2019-02-13 17:39
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Austria Laolon 
the thing is Nip and Fnatic era was in a different era of playstyle.... they just had a good chemstry in the team and good strats.... but most important the best players except pronax..... Astralis has aslso some of the best players but the reason they are so sucessfull is that they have disciplin and playing a new style of cs
2019-02-11 14:36
There is next to no flashiness in their playstyle, they enjoy grinding wins. It's profitable but not entertaining. That is why people call it boring CS. Obviously, the less risks you take and the more "wow-moments" you're able to induce the less you satisfy the audience. It's also not dominating by raw skill, it's dominating by discipline and preparation (which obviously can be argued to be skills of their own but you probably get my point).
2019-02-13 17:38
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Austria Laolon 
yeah man
2019-02-14 09:39
#46
dennis | 
Latvia De1Co 
Rip 1:2 vs Liquid.
2019-02-10 23:26
Danish CS LUL
2019-02-11 14:04
Didn't win a tournament in 2019 hahahhahaha
2019-02-11 14:30
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Europe SadPuppet 
I met only one danish guy at my life and he tried to be funny but it doesnt work at all (like mibr lineup for example). But the danish grils were nice, funy and hot. I think danish guys do not deserve it.  I'm just kidding. I dont know have not idea about danish men. But girls were really nice and sociable.
2019-02-10 23:01
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Belgium 69Savage 
danish humour is superior
2019-02-13 17:33
#31
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Denmark belikeme 
Well im hot af so its fine
2019-02-10 23:10
Prove it or I will kill you!
2019-02-11 14:51
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SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
+1
2019-02-10 23:15
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Asia SiduLooty 
they save a lot is 1 reason
2019-02-10 22:49
so basically you want teams to be stupid on purpose? lets say the score is 2-5 and its currently 3v5 in this round. If you save, you lose this round, its 2-6, you can drop next round and you are right back into the game. Maybe get a couple of exits and then the economy is balanced and the game is still open. If you dont save and rush, the chances are you will get shrekt, you lose the round, its 2-6. Worst case you get reset, got to force and then eco, so you will find yourself 2-8 with a shitty buy, whereas the enemy team will have had 2 rounds to make enough money that its literally impossible for you to reset them for the rest of the half. Same if you can just do a straight up eco. Saving does not only stop you from throwing rounds for no reason, it also keeps the enemy team from developing their economy and keeps them within range of a reset.
2019-02-10 23:02
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Asia SiduLooty 
more exiting for the viewer if they go for clutches. bro calm LOL.. thats what this chat is about. boring as in for the viewer.
2019-02-10 23:03
yea but honestly if you are sitting on that stage playing for a major win and 500k, do you really give a shit what the viewers want? I get it i also want people jumping in sites and popping heads but lets be reasonable. Counter strike is defined by these nuances and if we undermine things like these we will be left with basically 5v5 fortnite on a shitty engine.
2019-02-10 23:06
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Asia SiduLooty 
this thread is about the viewers bordem. what the hell u on about. if the tread was about strategy then ur point is valid. plz stop arguing
2019-02-10 23:07
yes im saying what viewers want is irrelevant. I dont hear people crying about football when they play it safe and pass the ball 1 trillion times. If you want action go play deathmatch.
2019-02-10 23:09
#29
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Asia SiduLooty 
why are u crying to me?
2019-02-10 23:09
#30
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Asia SiduLooty 
this tread is about the viewers LOL
2019-02-10 23:10
you are not very smart, are you?
2019-02-10 23:11
#34
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Asia SiduLooty 
thats all u can say buddy :)
2019-02-10 23:12
thats all you will be able to understand. I have written 3 paragraphs but you seem to be limited to 10 words.
2019-02-10 23:14
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Asia SiduLooty 
cool
2019-02-10 23:15
oh with the big words im proud of you.
2019-02-10 23:16
#43
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Asia SiduLooty 
m8 if u havent realised i dont care anymore. plz stop LOL
2019-02-10 23:16
Are you fucking retarted or what..? Like any other posts on HLTV, this is pure shit. No arguments, no perspectives, basically no clue about anything. The initial post actually states: - "..I don't have the answer to that, I was hoping you have it!" So how the fuck can you say that this thread is about viewers?? No one besides you have mentioned it being about the viewer's perspective.. Grow up, go to school... The world doesn't need stupid people like you...
2019-02-11 14:13
Don't fall under the misconception that schools makes you smarter.
2019-02-11 14:20
Oh trust me, I don't... But it would definitely help in the case of certain people on the HLTV forums...
2019-02-11 14:43
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Belgium 69Savage 
edgy boi found 😎
2019-02-13 17:36
Football had this transition so long ago that we aren't even aware how naive it were played in the past. football-bible.com/images/image/127-foot.. This is symbolically how many CS.GO teams play today, denying to adapt to something like -> football-bible.com/images/image/soccer-f.. despite it being much more effective.
2019-02-11 14:17
People said nip was boring People said fnatic was boring People said sk was boring People say nip Astralis is boring
2019-02-10 22:50
Never saw people complaining that those teams playstyles were boring. It was more like people complaining that they winning all the time was boring.
2019-02-10 22:52
Yes, but people said 100% said that SK's playstyle was boring. Also people said that fnatic were all cheaters.
2019-02-11 00:34
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Nast1a | 
India teguP 
cs is a boring game
2019-02-10 22:52
Way more interesting than dota.
2019-02-11 14:52
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Nast1a | 
India teguP 
who said anything about dota? i have never even played dota
2019-02-11 15:42
Thinking back I feel like all of these teams were fun to watch and I can pretty confidently say that was my opinion back then as well.
2019-02-10 22:53
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Xyp9x | 
Denmark Spite48 
My opinion as well, doesnt change the fact that most People were complaining that nip, fnatic(especially fnatic) and Sk were boring to watch.
2019-02-11 14:56
Liar
2019-02-10 23:05
#78
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Spite48 
It is true though.
2019-02-11 14:56
Astralis is a boring team because they are so far above everyone else, this results in the fact that they demolish all teams so therefor all matches you watch of them will be boring as fuck. I think its the fact that other teams suck that make Astralis a boring team, if other teams step up and starts being competitive versus astralis then no one would call astralis boring.
2019-02-10 22:51
Tbf, i hardly doubt many players are willing to do all the stuff Astralis do outside the game. Thats why they are so much better.
2019-02-10 22:53
I completely agree with the exception of maybe Liquid. I think it would be fair to say that teams like Navi and Faze put in like a tenth of the work that Astralis do, players on these teams are so stubborn because their ways of relying on individual aim has worked in the past so they are not willing to change things up. Sad for the scene..
2019-02-10 22:56
What about fnatic in their prime? They were fun to watch even when they were so dominant. Sure, they might not have been as dominant as Astralis has been recently, but still.
2019-02-10 22:55
Former fnatic and current astralis are two opposites. Fnatic were so dominant because they literally had 3 players who were the best in the world at differnet points (olof, krimz, flusha) Give pronax all the credit you want but that team relied 90% of individuals. A team that relies on individuals going ham with a somewhat loose style that relies on mid round calls is obviously going to be fun to watch, but this style is only consistent as long as you consistently have some of the best players in the world.
2019-02-10 23:00
That's true. Even though I've never really been a fan of Fnatic, I still think their prime was the most entertaining point in the csgo scene ever. Astralis is the complete opposite of that imo.
2019-02-10 23:04
Astralis = always going for % plays (never overextending after picks, saving weapons instead of going for disfavourable retakes, relying on utility etc...) It's not exciting CS, but it's effective as fuck. After following competitive CS since the beginning I gotta say that this was one of the less exciting if not the least exciting year. You can't blame Astralis for it though as it's up to the other teams to reach their level and make it competitive, sadly too many teams and players still believe that strong individuals and a loose style still holds in the top scene.
2019-02-10 23:13
All true.
2019-02-10 23:15
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zonic | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
+1
2019-02-10 23:32
The thing is that the lever of everyone has risen, with that and all the statistics available matches are a lot more predictable. Less so earlier when every team had less skill, then being better than the rest just meant less mistakes and better clutches. Made it more random.
2019-02-10 23:03
I am a danish, Astralis is the team I watch the most of all teams. But I haven't had the same interest watching them the past year. Why? It's not exciting when they are as dominant as they are, even for a potential fan. But blaming them for this is not fair, and doesn't make other teams better. If you want [X] to be better vs Astralis, urge [X] to step up, instead of urging Astralis to step down. Blaming individuals (Zeus being a prime target atm.) isn't smart either. It's undermining the team spirit of a team. A team spirit which is needed more than ever at a time where IGL's become increasingly important as a consequence of having a wider array of practiced scenarios ingame.
2019-02-11 14:29
I could watch xyp9x do what he does all day long
2019-02-10 22:52
Idk man, cus they knows its better to save their guns when its 4v5, and the Ts got the site and the bomb down. Ppl just wanna see flashy plays and stupid shit that works out 1 time out of a 100.
2019-02-10 22:52
Godtares will come for you
2019-02-10 22:55
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Ok then
2019-02-10 22:55
I think Astralis are great to watch. Seeing what plays they come up with, their team play and more is an inspiration. If that is boring it is the fault of the other teams not up to challenge.
2019-02-10 23:04
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Sweden ThorinEk 
they never do crazy things, maybe unexpected, but not crazy
2019-02-10 23:04
thats where u see a shitty cs fan. their style of playing is crazy and never seen before. insane nade stacks, mad double peaks, fishy smoke kills, king of clutches, deag gods... but yes, only s1mple flicks and no scopes are crazy.
2019-02-11 14:05
From a viewer perspective, yes it is. I'm not completely hyped and scream because astralis threw a good HE or smoke. It's boring. But when e.g. s1mple clutches an intense 1v1 with a flick, the casters, the crowd and I myself are hyped.
2019-02-11 14:34
I am not sure you understood the comment the same way as I did. I read it as Astralis are brave and smart (unexpected), not brave and stupid (crazy).
2019-02-11 14:37
stupid doesnt mean crazy but nt
2019-02-13 12:00
Dude....You abused it yourself. Crazy means kind of insane, it doesn't mean brave and willing to take huge risks.
2019-02-13 17:28
+1
2019-02-11 14:30
#32
g0d | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
3x5 and call save
2019-02-10 23:10
They don't create unbelievable moments like s1mpletronic, because they play 5 vs 5
2019-02-10 23:14
You mean p1mple and shitronic?
2019-02-11 00:17
got eeeeemmm
2019-02-11 00:18
i think that too, save dupreeh..
2019-02-10 23:15
Go tell the other teams to get better at the game so they can force Astralis out of their comfort zone and have to play a different playstyle that's not "boring" etc no team can do that consistently so they don't have to change anything.
2019-02-10 23:20
Astralis don't give a fuck if some plebs on HLTV think they are boring to watch.
2019-02-11 14:04
their style of playing is crazy and never seen before. insane nade stacks, mad double peaks, fishy smoke kills, king of clutches, deag gods... but yes, only s1mple flicks and no scopes are crazy. gold novas go crazy on flicks, thats why they say astralis is boring.
2019-02-11 14:05
Is because its safe and effective. People want to see KennyS's super quick flicks and Scream's one taps.
2019-02-11 14:08
Because 90% of their kills are kills through smokes or body sprays after weakenig the enemies to 50hp with nades.
2019-02-11 14:14
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Switzerland crustclot 
It is because Astralis really does play boring sometimes. They play really passive and don't make these flashy plays all the time like Faze. They play everything overly safe and just go for the win with the least risk. I am a Astralis fan myself but I feel like sometimes they play a bit boring
2019-02-11 14:45
#87
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Algeria MaxZeMeister 
too much tacticals kills the fun
2019-02-14 09:51
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