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VIEWER PASS IS GREAT
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Change my mind, "anti-passers". Like, I do not see a single reason why the Viewer Pass is a bad thing to add. The value you are getting from it is insane: 1. Pick 'Em is fully accessable. In previous Majors, e.g. London Major, in order to fill in each and every slot you would need around $15, if not sometimes more. Now you get all the slots for just 10. And also, if you wanted to place someone for 0-3, you would have to buy their sticker. And let's agree that spending $1 on a ViCi is kinda an overkill. So, the value is immense already. 2. Souvenir Package is guaranteed.* When watching the previous Majors, you would sometimes spend hours on stream or leave your PC turned on for ages just to get a drop, and not get any in the end. Now, just by watching 4 matches (1 on different stage of the tournament), one Package is already in the bag. Combine watching one match from every stage and a succeesful Pick 'Em, and BOOM, you got 2! So now, there is a real point in doing Pick 'Em and trying to pick correctly, and not for some medal you can only get for display. And no viewbot is gonna steal your drops, since they now have a money barrier to get through. * - if you watch like 4 matches, you get a drop. It's so easy. 3. You are able to choose a Package. For example, while watching the Boston Major, I received only 1 souvenir, and was a Mirage pack from NaVi vs. QBF quarter-final with Boombl4 signature. I, at that time, thought it was disappointing, since I could've gotten a flamie or a s1mple signature from the same match. So, I sold it quickly, and it wasn't even that expensive, like $2. Now I can get a Package I actually want, like an HR vs. NaVi Overpass collection, which would be my dream package, if that match-up was to happen. Speaking of money and selling packages: 4. You receive your money back partially in Packages. If you get like an Overpass or a Nuke or a new Inferno, and sell it, you can get like $3-5, so you even get some money back. 5. Graffiti and Medal. You also receive a cool Medal and unlimited graffiti for the duration of the Major. This is not much, but a cool addition to the deal of, let me repeat, 10 dollars. So, for a $10 dollar pass, you receive: - a service which used to cost ~$15 - a guaranteed Souvenir drop of YOUR CHOICE, which is sellable and makes back about $3-5, making it worth $5-7 in the end - a 3-week supply of your fav team's graffiti - an upgradable coin as a trophy That is a STEAL! You not being able to afford that means you shouldn't get. If that is a significant sum of money for you, maybe you shouldn't buy it. It does NOT ruin or damage the experience in any way. If some package is the only thing that gets you hyped about an event, you shouldn't be around pro CS or eSports in general. "BuT tHe ViEwErShIp Is GoNnA dRoP!!!1!" Like, come on, why do you care? It's not like you are the organizer of the tournament, the amount of people watching does not affect you in any way, and also, wouldn't it be satisfying to see good viewership knowing that the amount of fake, "package farmer" accounts to be on its minimum? "BuT I wAnT mY pAcKaGe!!!1!" Look, it's time to realize that stuff won't come to you for free. The previous system of getting drops could be massively exploited, and Valve had to do something. Not like you had much chances anyway... So, all "anti-passers", the following message is for you: Stop being cheap crybabies and appreciate what Valve are giving you for once!
2019-02-10 23:48
#1
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Brazil eoteamo 
tldr waste your money as you please
2019-02-10 23:50
+1
2019-02-11 00:19
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2019-02-10 23:51
#3
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Estonia teremartin 
8 dollar is expensive. free is better
2019-02-10 23:51
Even though I'm not going to buy a pass, this is the best idea they could've came up with since people would create thousands of accounts just to farm cases. So +1 all the way
2019-02-10 23:51
#5
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
so true tho
2019-02-10 23:52
#6
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Brazil Leozzin 
viewer pass is great
2019-02-10 23:54
#7
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
+1
2019-02-10 23:56
#8
ZywOo | 
Germany fulltilt 
even if I didnt like the change and I neglect all of ur arguments, what else could they have done now that the game is f2p? There is no other way. Its common sense
2019-02-10 23:56
#9
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Exactly, yet some people still complain...
2019-02-10 23:57
#10
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United States SilveryoHD 
+1
2019-02-10 23:58
#11
United Kingdom aima 
No cobble to choose no fun. Bought one tho
2019-02-10 23:58
#12
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Spain VIKTORAL 
paying money for some pixels LMAOOOOO
2019-02-10 23:58
#38
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Panama Cyain10 
Paying money in 2019 LUUUUL
2019-02-11 00:31
+1
2019-02-11 00:00
Sounds Stupid If it was a operation it would be worth it
2019-02-11 00:01
Care to elaborate?
2019-02-11 11:41
Well I mean its up to you. I would rather just wait for an operation, but obviously nobody no's when it will happen. I mean its cool that they have the option of the major.
2019-02-12 00:40
paying money to watch games LUL
2019-02-11 00:02
#16
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
But, you don't have to pay to watch it.
2019-02-11 00:03
brazilian brain kkkk
2019-02-11 00:19
#35
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Finland Vkims 
You pay money for watching any other sports too
2019-02-11 00:28
#17
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United States zer0skill 
Love the viewer pass, only thing that could be better is bringing back the Player Pick-em's from MLG Columbus 2016. That was really cool and I'm sad it didn't come back after that.
2019-02-11 00:05
#20
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
No point of that. s1mple would own all the scoreboards anyway, amirite? *high-five* :D
2019-02-11 00:07
#21
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United States zer0skill 
True haha
2019-02-11 00:09
Cs go is not the best of making money and I can see no reason of buying Viewer pass but to earn some $$$
2019-02-11 00:07
It could also be to prevent free botting the matches to farm packages. If that would be allowed the prices of the packages would massively drop now that the game is free which would hurt the paying viewer
2019-02-11 12:03
#19
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United States SweatyBawlz 
+1 dont understand the complaints
2019-02-11 00:07
#22
United Kingdom aima 
So im able to pick for example 3 nuke souvenirs? Im sure its stupid to take mirage for example...
2019-02-11 00:10
#24
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
I cant get it... What will Valve do when Cobble comes back? LOL
2019-02-11 00:14
#25
United Kingdom aima 
Ye thats why im asking this. Whos gonna take mirage/dd2 souvenir anyway when theres only shitty items to get ? :D
2019-02-11 00:16
#31
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
Yeah, there will be absolutely no point in choosing any other map when you can go for Cobble. I wonder if Valve thinks about any consequences of its actions LOL
2019-02-11 00:28
#40
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Brazil xhrp 
obviously there will be low mirage-d2 packages what will make their price rise up and many nuke packages means prices going down
2019-02-11 00:43
#36
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Finland Vkims 
In which map you get most valuable souvenir packages?
2019-02-11 00:30
+1
2019-02-11 00:13
+1
2019-02-11 00:17
BuT tHe ViEwErShIp Is GoNnA dRoP!!!1!
2019-02-11 00:17
#29
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Spain Zhalos 
+1 viewer pass is like a beta version of what Dota 2 has. maybe they should add like missions to get more points for the Diamond coin or some shit like that, but not sure how. Similar to operations.
2019-02-11 00:19
#32
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Finland Vkims 
Good points, I fully agree
2019-02-11 00:23
#33
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Europe SQXZAF 
+1
2019-02-11 00:26
#34
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Pakistan Lv1_Crook 
no cobblestone no viewer pass
2019-02-11 00:27
+1
2019-02-11 00:30
#39
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Germany Fabbsen 
You forgot the really super duper cool emoticons you get on steam for every team ;) Also i agree with every point on your list. But i don't know about the prices of the packages as everyone will choose the likes of Nuke/Overpass and new Inferno which will result into a lower price
2019-02-11 00:34
#41
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Brazil xhrp 
thats why i'll wait the last moment to get my packages.
2019-02-11 00:44
+1
2019-02-11 11:39
#44
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Finland Olter 
1. cheaper cost=more people get diamond therefore making it less valuable 2. souvenir packages will become less valuable as you can get them easily. Right now getting a pack may sound good but the prices will fall so low it will be just another case to sell off. "It's so easy." Thats not a good thing. More packages=Lower prices so selling it is not as good 3. Who cares. You can just buy the thing you want, which most likely is more costly as most people actually want the same things. 4. You wont. Or you can in the same way you can make money opening cases. You buy case and sell skin you make a little bit back, but no where near enough. Also, you are thinking of souvenir package prices without adjustion to the fact more people will get them. That means lower prices and less money earned. 5. Cool medal=Who cares Graffiti=Ive never even used up a graffiti ever You are a moron
2019-02-11 11:49
#46
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
4 - i disagree. There will be much less souvenir packages this major than before thus better price
2019-02-11 11:52
#47
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Finland Olter 
So you think this is free money? Come on you cant be serious.
2019-02-11 11:53
#49
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
Well no, of course not. But for someone like me who did pick'em every major before it's worthy.... don't get me wrong im kind of sad that i will have to do with only 3 drops... when i had 19 combined from last 2 majors :(
2019-02-11 11:55
#53
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Finland Olter 
And i got 0 as did most people I know
2019-02-11 11:58
#55
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
Well still. Everyone could get a case. Now it will be only 3 cases max per person who buys the pass.... i'd actually like to know how many passes were sold to compare the stats.... But still i believe these 3 cases will be worth more than the pass so it's essentially free pick'em
2019-02-11 12:01
#45
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
I kind off agree. I'm not complaining... the only thing that sucks for me is that i had 4 accounts watching every major and had 11 drops last one, and 9 the one before... so now i will have to satisfy with only 3 :(
2019-02-11 11:50
the souvenir drop value will go down hugely, along with the skins in those collections.
2019-02-11 11:55
#50
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
no. There will be much less souvenir cases than before.
2019-02-11 11:56
overall, yeah. but if everyone decides to get a nuke one then that's not gonna hold the same value as the nuke ones did at previous majors etc
2019-02-11 11:56
#54
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
yes that's true. But don't forget you can redeem the cases until 31th of March so you can monitor the price and just take the ones that will make you the most money. But hey noone knows what's gonna happen so we will see :)
2019-02-11 11:59
#52
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Norway Sn0w___ 
+1 and -1
2019-02-11 11:57
#57
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Netherlands Jonasio 
I bought as the same day as it went live and I don't regret it
2019-02-11 12:03
#58
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Germany Constikdw 
absolutely +1
2019-02-11 12:06
+1
2019-02-11 12:06
#60
Italy Ndyx 
+1
2019-02-11 12:08
#61
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Czech Republic PaYaB 
agreed, but i wonder, what pricing will have souvenirs.
2019-02-11 12:10
nt gaben, i wont buy it.
2019-02-11 12:10
#63
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Luxembourg alex24 
i would have charged more than 8.75 euros... 15 euros next pass valve do it
2019-02-11 12:11
I don't wanna spend 10$ (like 1/30 of my moms salary) for this shit /thread
2019-02-11 12:12
#65
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Brazil VeryColdGuy 
well, i enjoyed the new pass system, and im from brazil, this is expensive for us (40 BRL$) but i enjoyed the medal, the souvenir system.. also for me, its good.
2019-02-11 12:20
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