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Japan NotTrik 
What is your take on this? Personally, I believe, as so many others, that this ‘dire situation’, is just propaganda by fear-mongers to get money. It is just a cyclical process that occurs over tens of thousands of years, it flips. Al Gore, for the 2000 presidential election, said we would all be boiling in 10-15 years; what happened? Nothing. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is saying the same thing, she’s also proposing a ‘Green New Deal’, which is utter insanity. These people want to stop planes, tear down buildings, and stop space travel. Personally, in my humble opinion, space exploration, colonizing other rocks in our solar system and beyond, are far more important than being scared of a myth. The only way humanity guarantees it’s survival, is to set up self-sustaining colonies, which eventually form into fully-functioning towns, and more, that have their own economy, amenities, and more.
2019-02-11 14:19
would be nice if we would get global warming or global ice age we need to start from scratch
2019-02-11 14:22
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Japan NotTrik 
The strong would survive, the weak would perish. Would be good for the future genetics of the human race. Just like what happened the last time.
2019-02-11 14:23
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United Kingdom 21savageUK 
You would die first
2019-02-11 14:24
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Lithuania TraXy 
LMAO
2019-02-11 14:28
#27
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Japan NotTrik 
Guy with the name ‘21 savage’ talking, lmao. Either way, it wouldn’t matter, I don’t care if I would die - the point is, the best of humanity would survive, and their genetics would continue on which would mean generations to come descend from the best of humanity.
2019-02-11 14:32
i actually dont believe anyone on hltv will survive a propper ice age :D this kids might act like they strong on the internet but they probably ain't
2019-02-11 14:42
#84
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United Kingdom 21savageUK 
He has 100 alts spamming hltv 24/7, is probably fat af and has diabetes, and he thinks he would survive lol
2019-02-11 14:58
+1
2019-02-11 14:44
#125
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World ///fuck 
+1
2019-02-11 15:41
Imagine what could happen if we could start from the beggining with all the knowledge we have this world would be a better place
2019-02-11 14:25
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Japan NotTrik 
100%.
2019-02-11 14:28
#47
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Germany NatsuS 
Read the Manga "stone age" It will end up as always in a war...
2019-02-11 14:43
Al gore is not a scientist, it doesn't matter what he says. There is way more money in lobbying against climate change for the oil companies than doing actual research, so there goes that argument
2019-02-11 14:45
The rich will survive... Got nothing to do with Darwin, mate
2019-02-11 14:47
+1
2019-02-11 14:50
all humans would die you mongoloid
2019-02-11 18:33
#198
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Japan NotTrik 
Ancient humans survived the first ice age, and the humans descended from them became members of some of the greatest civilizations in all of human history. Do you even know what you’re talking about?
2019-02-11 18:36
yes i know but you dont you mongoloid. we already kill so many species that if the iceage starts we wont have anything to eat. new life will form from bacteria plankton and shit like that.
2019-02-11 18:45
#201
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Japan NotTrik 
I respect the attempt, but 0/8
2019-02-11 18:48
go kill some whales amirite
2019-02-11 18:54
It's all bullshit liberals make up to try and be relevant
2019-02-11 14:23
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Japan NotTrik 
Agreed, they call conservatives the fear-mongers when in reality they are the biggest fear mongers in the 21st-20th century.
2019-02-11 14:25
So which part of climate change or global warming is it that you do not believe in, if you were to name something? Just so we might have a reference point for discussing the topic. One thing that we can start of with. Here's an example: "I don't believe CO2 contributes to the warming of the planet" ... Something like that 😉
2019-02-11 15:46
"I don't believe MAN MADE CO2 output is a significant factor in the warming of our planet. We might buy ourselves a decade at most, meanwhile crippling our ability to adapt.
2019-02-11 16:36
+1
2019-02-11 14:26
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United States 7hai 
oh dont worry brazil, you can burn as much coal as you want, just feed your people first. let the countries that matter care about global warming
2019-02-11 14:59
Thanks bro.
2019-02-11 15:01
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United States 7hai 
you're welcome my man.
2019-02-11 15:01
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Turkey tastemycobra 
i think it is real but it is way too costly, especially for powerful states like USA... all those investments that took many years would go away because of this newly discovered phenomenon.
2019-02-11 14:25
#104
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Germany Fabbsen 
Its real but the damage is already done. We can't stop it anyway just minimize it. Like u said its way to costly
2019-02-11 15:11
#173
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India otgps 
Actually we can kind of reverse/stop it. Right now, I was working with a Carbon sequestration plant where they control their CO2 emission by using Slaked Lime and that results in commercially viable Limestone. With large scale Zero Emission schemes and Sequestration schemes along with Oceans doing their thing, we can reverse/stop it but its gonna cost some very powerful people a lot of money and they are paying off politicians not to do it so we all suffer while they book their lands on space crafts.
2019-02-11 16:30
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Germany Fabbsen 
Its possible yeah, but as u said many people would need to take part of this especially powerfull ones
2019-02-11 16:31
#177
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India otgps 
If you're really german, atleast you can keep your head high. I don't know if Government mandated it or BASF is doing it on its own but their utility network to minimize energy losses and reduce emissions is amazing. It saves environment and saves them money. Similar plants in USA consume upto thrice the energy and china upto 5 times. Your government also has good policies against further worsening of climate and Most of your companies also have a strong commitment. If only you guys could convince USA and/or China to follow you, we all might be saved
2019-02-11 16:35
#179
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Germany Fabbsen 
Yeah, we're on a good way right now but its still not good.
2019-02-11 16:36
#180
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India otgps 
I would disagree. Its good for now but not good enough for the future. For God's sake, Munich and Berlin now have laws concerning Ground water recharge inside City built up limits. That's amazing and unheard of. In China/USA, they pour concrete on everything. In Germany, your government is literally uprooting concrete to make more ground for water to seep in and prevent logging
2019-02-11 16:39
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Germany Fabbsen 
Yeah, thats what i meant. I hope many countries, like you said the US for example, take that as model to go into that direction aswell. All countries need to be involved in it otherwise it won't bring that much at all.
2019-02-11 16:41
#183
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India otgps 
And that's the problem. USA and China combined are responsible for half of the harm being done to Environment yet both ignore and make fun of any environment talks. There used to be such a large issue of acid rain in EU but EU fixed it while USA destroys Canada's Forests and China destroys itself
2019-02-11 16:44
literally 99% of scientists agree that climate change is a teal issue, how can you still deny this.
2019-02-11 14:25
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Japan NotTrik 
Science doesn’t exist anymore, the system of leftist lobbies has infiltrated and paid off “scientific” organizations.
2019-02-11 14:26
lmao what are you on about
2019-02-11 14:28
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Norway PeteZz 
Right-winger complaining about people being paid off. Roflmao.
2019-02-11 14:33
#33
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Japan NotTrik 
I do not advocate for a majority of right-wing politicians, just as I do not for left-wing. They are all fruit from the same tree, they are all paid off by the same people. Only thing that is ‘different’ are their societal views.
2019-02-11 14:35
You don't know any of those "scientists", you haven't read any of their "articles", yet you keep repeating this bullshit like it's the absolute truth.
2019-02-11 14:27
You're making quite a lot of baseless accusations. Do you have any proof that Loonek hasn't read any articles related to the subject at hand?
2019-02-11 14:43
Nope. Just making an assumption which is 99.99% likely to be true.
2019-02-11 14:49
Based on what? The fact that he left a few replies on a forum?
2019-02-11 14:50
Yes.
2019-02-11 14:53
Can we then, by your logic, make any assumption about any user on this forum and present it as truth? As long we personally think it's plausible ofcourse?
2019-02-11 15:51
Why not
2019-02-11 15:56
same scientists that claim there are more than 2 genders...
2019-02-11 14:28
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Azerbaijan Asiimov 
katalog you are one stupid person stop the speak
2019-02-11 14:29
#22
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Japan NotTrik 
Exactly, and the same that claim toxic masculinity is real, and a massive problem. The system pays off scientists to further advance their own agenda.
2019-02-11 14:29
#30
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Norway PeteZz 
So... You actually believe many climatologists do research on gender?
2019-02-11 14:34
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Germany 'ezpz 
No he believe that climatologists get paid like gender scientists to spread bullshit and let stupid people like us believe everything...
2019-02-11 14:37
Yes every scientist who disagrees with you is paid by Soros.
2019-02-11 14:41
+1.
2019-02-11 14:59
What I mean is, there are scientists in the world who claims there are more than two genders. With such ridiculous and bizarre claims that have been publicly accepted by the people, it proves people can believe it anything. The governments take advantage of this and exploit the mass public with this climate change talk.
2019-02-11 14:40
in 70s I believe scientists claimed we would have a little iceage by now. just saying.
2019-02-11 14:54
source?
2019-02-11 15:10
I read that ages ago. Maybe you can find something I’m really busy sry.
2019-02-11 15:12
Haha, to claim that they're the same scientist are kind of retarded. They are in different fields, have beem around different people and have different cultures in their field. To assume that all scientists are in some kind of coalition is ludicris, do you understand the immense amount of effort and resources it would take to withhold that information from the public? (I'm answering to the conversation in general here aswell as to you comment, just spinning of a bit). In most fields people compete, and that competition does not involve boasting untrue data. If something can be disputed, it will be. And a thesis does not pass as a theory before it has been tried numerous times by many different independent teams of scientists.
2019-02-11 18:37
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
its true, look at the weather, we got places with -50º and places with 50º, wtf is this. In portugal we have rain, sun, col, hot everthing in the same fucking day
2019-02-11 14:25
Your view on global warming aside (I disagree with it, yet don't have the time to fully word out a response to it), where would we build the first colony?
2019-02-11 14:26
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Norway PeteZz 
Sure, I trust a bunch of nerds who live with their mom and jerk off to dwarf porn, and the big oil corporations, and the politicians they pay off, and not the overwhelming majority of scientists :D edit: You know what I kind of respect? Those who say, "Sure I believe in it, it's SCIENCE after all. I just don't really give a shit. Economy > Global warming". Instead of those assholes who pretend that the science is flawed.
2019-02-11 14:29
NoT tHe OvErWhElMiNg MaJoRiTy Of ScIeNtIsTs
2019-02-11 14:28
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Norway PeteZz 
Im curious of you definition of 'overwhelming'. It is definitely over 90%, and probably around 97%.
2019-02-11 14:30
Stop acting like you've read and studied what those "overwhelming majority of scientists" are arguing and took ur conclusion from that. You don't even know a single one of them and haven't read any of their articles. You just heard someone say that and now you're repeating it like a sheep.
2019-02-11 14:33
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Norway PeteZz 
Well it would be hella difficult for me to know all of the scientists doing research on climate, but I can give it try. I have met a few climatologists, but I don't know any of them well, no.
2019-02-11 14:36
See? You're just being fooled, regardless of whether it's true or not. You haven't studied about it, so you shouldn't be spreading this info like it's the absolute truth.
2019-02-11 14:38
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Norway PeteZz 
It's okay to be skeptic, but you guys are doing the same thing, without any scientific backing. "It's A HOAX!!!".
2019-02-11 14:41
True. But that's because GW defenders are like vegans. They're authoritarians and I'll always stand up against that.
2019-02-11 14:48
> gw defenders(majority of academics and majority of scientists) and vegans are authoritarians > nickname is a brazilian dictator
2019-02-11 15:06
Here we go...
2019-02-11 15:06
#43
United States koth 
What is wrong with dwarf porn? It is a respectable career.
2019-02-11 14:41
#46
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Norway PeteZz 
Sorry, meant no offense. I'm pro-dwarf porn.
2019-02-11 14:42
Made up hoax
2019-02-11 14:30
i have phD in geoscience,i am certified climatologist, global warming happens naturally as a cycle every 100k years, also ENCE will win major.
2019-02-11 14:31
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Norway PeteZz 
I see what you did there ;)
2019-02-11 14:32
what did i do? everything i said is true, people are being too dramatic about a natural occuring process, also ENCE will win major.
2019-02-11 14:34
i believe climate changes but not as bad as they make it. like u will have some hot summers followed by super cold winters. species went extinct for many many billion years, mayb justs time for humans to be replaced by robots.
2019-02-11 14:35
climate change is real but not caused by humans
2019-02-11 14:41
they control the weather so basically its caused by human mashines.
2019-02-11 14:43
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World ///fuck 
OMEGAFUCKONGLOL, you believe we have 0 affect on earth???
2019-02-11 14:43
what?
2019-02-11 14:48
#77
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World ///fuck 
climate change is real but not caused by humans xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-02-11 14:55
ok thanks for repeating my comment back to me
2019-02-11 15:05
#107
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World ///fuck 
i find stupid people funny 😁😁
2019-02-11 15:15
im stupid yet u cant disprove what i said
2019-02-11 15:33
#120
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World ///fuck 
why would I try to dispute your stupid claim when it has been debunked too many times already, just shows your ignorance / lack of wanting to know the truth Instead show me proof that say that mankind have no impact on global warming.
2019-02-11 15:38
u show me proof first
2019-02-11 16:56
Volcanos cause the same greenhouse gaz as factories
2019-02-11 15:50
What is your point?
2019-02-11 15:56
Look @ #42
2019-02-11 15:57
Am i correct in saying that that you believe the rise in CO2 is due to vulcanoes?
2019-02-11 16:08
That's why #42 says, I'm saying the opposite
2019-02-11 17:08
Ok fair enough. Because it would take thousands of St. Helen's in a century to release that amount of CO2.
2019-02-11 18:23
USA control the weather.
2019-02-11 14:45
#57
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Japan NotTrik 
HAARP makes ‘global warming’, so leftists can lobby and steal money from people.
2019-02-11 14:47
tru!
2019-02-11 14:54
YES. Weather warfare/manipulation is ON and its been atleast from the 50's
2019-02-11 15:26
#114
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Japan NotTrik 
It is always so amusing to me how people dismiss the arguments that we have far more advanced technology extending from what the government allows us to see. Nuclear submarines were built in the 50’s. Let that sink in. The depth of technology the government is hiding almost has no limit.
2019-02-11 15:30
Then why wouldn't they fix it?
2019-02-11 15:51
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2019-02-11 18:28
#59
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Germany NatsuS 
Clima change is real. But the consequences we take out of it are questionable. Can we reverse it? Or have we to look what we do out of it? If the nature has one system it is the scream for balance.
2019-02-11 14:47
ofc climate change is real. the climate has been constantly changing since the dawn of time. the question is: how big is our impact on the change. how bad is the change really? no one can really say that, but everyone seems to agree we should all take a massive blow to our economies? with the exception of a few new industries which are getting filthy rich. I dont buy it. sorry.
2019-02-11 14:58
0/8 bait
2019-02-11 14:48
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Brazil candymau 
the intelligent ones who say that there is no global warming are the ones making money from it. simple as that .
2019-02-11 14:51
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Russia avocadosatlaw 
nt Trik
2019-02-11 14:50
#68
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Norway PeteZz 
Tbf, mother earth has had enough of us retards. She'll wipe out about 60-70%, so the earth can breathe again. Stop fucking like rabbits people. Get one kid, that's enough.
2019-02-11 14:52
You think africans and indians, the ones over populating the world, are reading ur comment? You, Europeans, need to start having more kids urselves and stop brainwashing them, if you wanna save ur race/continent.
2019-02-11 14:56
+1
2019-02-11 14:59
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United States sleepist 
+1
2019-02-11 16:17
#70
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United Kingdom IgglePiggle 
reading this thread has made me less intelligent than i was before i started.
2019-02-11 14:53
From 20 IQ to 5, welcome to HLTV But ofc to people with great intelligence like me I won more IQ than lost
2019-02-11 14:57
#86
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United Kingdom IgglePiggle 
nobody here is winning I'm afraid :(
2019-02-11 14:59
You've pretty much described 80% of all off-topic threads regarding politics and/or global warming.
2019-02-11 14:58
I assume your intent in creation of this thread was to troll could you PM me your answer to clarify whether I'm right or not?
2019-02-11 14:58
Global warming doesn't exist, why is it sometimes cold then???
2019-02-11 15:01
+1+1+1+1
2019-02-11 15:02
+a11
2019-02-11 15:51
#163
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United States sleepist 
+999999
2019-02-11 16:17
Fake news brother
2019-02-11 15:09
#105
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United States Trump2020KAG 
ClimateGate says it all. Billions of dollars every year are spent on research to prove it. How do u keep funding coming?????? Make shit up and show a couple starving polar bears on tv and in pictures. BOOM EASY BILLIONS EVERY YEAR IN FUNDING.
2019-02-11 15:12
I looked up their website and I found nothing worth talking about. Just a load of nonsensical blabbering. There are 0 scientific documents on the website, as far as I could see. Do you have any better source (preferably with research) than a website created to spread baseless theories and conspiracy theories?
2019-02-11 15:33
Check his name. Do you think he has any real sources?
2019-02-11 15:37
I don't suspect he does, but I'm willing to give him a chance. Never judge someone by their username on a forum :)
2019-02-11 15:39
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Well it’s all leaked emails between American and European scientists. What more proof do u need?????
2019-02-11 15:42
Link them. I'm curious as to where you found them. Emails can be faked, just like ClimateGate claims most, if not all, research has been doctored up to push a certain agenda.
2019-02-11 15:45
#137
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United States Trump2020KAG 
skepticalscience.com/Climategate-CRU-ema.. Explains some of what was found in the emails. U really have to search because they don’t put the real real stuff on the front pages of google. Everything is sensored by the left leaning media google face book and YouTube. It’s the same thing if u search for American inventors. All u get is black after black after black inventors. Barley any white inventors. Same thing if u ask google or Alexa about Jesus and Muhammad. It’s all sensored to the lefts agenda.
2019-02-11 15:52
No link, or images of the actual emails. Taken directly from the site: When a selection of emails between climate scientists were published on the internet, a few suggestive quotes were seized upon by many claiming global warming was all just a conspiracy. A few quotes were taken in order to spin a certain narrative. There are alternative search engines to google. Social media shouldn't be taken as reliable standalone sources. I looked up american inventors and the first few pictures (20 ish) mostly had Edison, Tesla, Ford, Whitney, Graham Bell etc. and a bunch of pictures showing that a certain google search shows pictures of inventors with a different skin tone.
2019-02-11 16:00
If you don't trust overwhelming majority of scientists, tho who do you trust? Nobody? Science has proved it is the "realest shit" in the middle of this crazy world full of liars and religions. Scientific method works! Sure science can get things wrong due to badly planned experiments or wrong conclusions, but in this case the evidence is so strong that we can't just ignore the conclusion.
2019-02-11 15:25
There are two different subjects in your thread : global warming and space development. Both related by our civilization's sustainability. It is probably a bait but as your were clever enough to be polite and I do believe my answer has a chance to enlight some of the people who'll read it: Are people trying to take advantage of climate chance to acquire fame or money? Yes, as in every other topic. Are some of these people scammers? Yes, as in every other topic. Are scammer a proof that a subject doesn't exist? Absolutely not, skin scammers exist in csgo, yet csgo skins exist. To take your exemples, if anyone say water will be boiling anytime soon, they are obviously fraud. To boil we should have at the very least an increase of temperatures of more than 70°C. Global warming is about few degrees every centuries at worst. I never read Al Gore saying such things, but if he did, that answer your question. And even if it took advantage of the global warming in a more subtile way, it doesn't dismiss the global warming. I could explain how global warming is not something you can believe in or not, but a fact, for various scientific reasons. I did it already in many other HLTV threads, I could explain you the difference between solar cycle, magnetosphere, natural green house effect and human activities increasing it. But as it is not the subject of my answer I won't here. For the purpose of this reply that will be long enough already, lets say that temperatures are rising for whatever reasons and the consequences will be disastrous for our civilizations : - the hotter the upper oceans are. Most of our cities are costal, 3 meters up (won't happen before a long time) is enough to drawn the MAJORITY of our actual human habitation. Even few centimeter are enough to justify the expense of billions in protective dams. Billions of taxes to come for walls, Trump will be ecstatic. - Infection and disease thriving under warmer temperatures, ever heard of Malaria? If you think Dengue is a problem when it comes in our countries wait for it, you won't be disappointed. - as the south get warmer, it will get dryer. Southern people won't be able to get water or food anymore in their place and so will immigrate in northern country. If you had a problem with few hundred of thousand immigrants, just wait for the hundred of millions to come because of that. - Etc.. The point here: we have to do something to limit this global temperature rise. Because our fault or not is not even important, we have to do something against it if we want to keep our ways of life. About the 'Green New Deal' now, as its name refer, it is about a stimulative policy. To be synthetic, there is two way to handle macro economy for states : austerity (that become the rule since Thatcher Reagan) and investment (on what was made the New deal). Both are legit economical policies, both have many Nobel prices in economy defending them, and some of these people even defend both alternatively. Most of time, these massive investment policies are made by the left more than by the right for "meta reason" : state investment means strong state, state investment means regulated investment not exactly fitting the free market dream ideology, etc.. The point here is : on a purely economical point of view, it works well. To a point that a state hiring people to dig hole and other to fill these digs (to rephrase Keynes) would be positive for the people's state economy as it make the money move in a positive sum game. So this 'Green New Deal' would improve the GDP of USA, and so the GDP of each US citizen. For the exact same logic Trump called for infrastructure investment during his campaign and building his wall would be a positive thing for US economy (keeping it up is another debate). I'm not specialist of what contain this plan, just heard of it here and there, but as I said it would be a benefit for US economy. And if it is effective on current temperatures rising, it is what we call a win win. If it allow USA to take a meaningful lead in "green energy" it give USA an advantage to other countries in global economic competition. Win win win then. Now about the plan itself. As I said, I'm not aware of it. You seems to quote some unpleasant policies. Economy is always about that: "destructive creation" said Schumpeter : we don't like change, every change is taken as a downside, but changes are needed in order to make things evolve. So the question here is : are you agreeing to endure these changes? That is politic, and in a democracy it is up to the people to answer that. But being aware of the causes and consequences is needed to do so. That's why I'm giving my knowledge in this very post. It is kind of surprising that "Green policies" want to stop space travel. As Space long term goal is not about colonization of other world. Humans can live in space, on mars, or whatever, but humanity CAN'T. It even worst than with global warming : humans, some here in there will survive any global warming happening in the next centuries, but humanity won't. If you wan't an image, imagine Mad Max world : with some thing like 5-10°C global increase, human still live, but our civilizations? Not really. Terraforming planets if ever possible, would take millenniums just to be able for humans to breath. Temperatures, UV radiation and other problem is a whole more complex issue. Meanwhile global warming issue is just tiny degrees to handle, imagine changing a whole planet for dozens of it, air composition, magnetic activity, etc.. Space exploration is our future, I'm convinced of that. But not to go on another planet after we wasted ours, but because it is an access to unlimited ressources without any ecological issue for its exploitation. Not just metals but also infinite water and fertilizer, etc.. It is also the next gold rush, maybe even the biggest humanity ever knew, as the first trillionaire will be part of this adventure. TL;DR: to join your conclusion, I personally believe that space is our future, but I also know for fact that limiting global warming is our present. And we need a present to have a future. There is nothing economically bad with any of these, just a bunch of opportunities for the first people or countries able to seize these two domains first. Too long to read myself looking for errors, so apologies.
2019-02-11 15:39
+1 What a well written reply! There is no chance for him to come back from this:D I wish that more people would posses this knowledge!
2019-02-11 16:10
If you base everything you know about Climate Changes by what Al Gore and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have said then you are really dumb. They are politicians and cant be trusted. You should go study what scientists all over the world says about climate changes.
2019-02-11 15:30
You need to be more active to be able to create new forum topics
2019-02-11 15:30
feelsbadmen
2019-02-11 15:52
Scientific consensus by thousands of different scientists across the earth is just fear-mongering and propaganda. Facepalm.
2019-02-11 15:36
When bacteria and their connection to diseases were discussed at first the whole scientific community was laughing. Im not saying they are wrong today. I’m saying that they could be wrong and the whole consensus could change over the next decades. Consensus is almost always political too. Don’t you forget that. Scientists who disagree with what is propagated right now are simply being shut out of the discussion.
2019-02-11 15:57
Which scientists has been shut out regarding what paper?
2019-02-11 16:05
Tons. You dont realize how political this topic is. You basically have to nurture the narrative of man made climate change or you are out.
2019-02-11 16:10
I am asking you to give me a specific example so i can check it out.
2019-02-11 16:12
m.bazonline.ch/articles/5a72cb7dab5c3706.. Translate this. Should be an interesting read for you.
2019-02-11 16:16
I would really like an english source so nothing is lost in translation
2019-02-11 16:22
Maybe google the guy in the article. Maybe he gave a similar interview? Just do something or translate it and ask if you don’t understand some parts I can translate for you.
2019-02-11 16:24
did you read it?
2019-02-11 18:28
Science is not decided by consensus but by evidence.
2019-02-11 16:04
Little more complicated than that as evidence need a consensus to be considered as it.
2019-02-11 16:08
Care to elaborate?
2019-02-11 16:09
Take for exemple for that very subject, temperatures measurement. Not even talking about their rise or not just their measurement. To consider these measurements as evidence, scientists had to make multiples consensus, from some easy going, to other more subject to debate : - is temperature related to pressure? - is pressure on mercury proportional to temperature? - is this relation linear? - is pression variation in different place of measurment meaningful or not? - is there another factor that might modify our thermometer? - are these factors meaningful? - are the measurement collectors trust worthy? - are the measurement compilators trust worthy? Etc..
2019-02-11 16:21
I don't see any of them having to do with consensus but rather to do with more experiments, leading to more evidence?
2019-02-11 16:21
You might not, but during long time scientists were not 100% sure gravity was not interfering with mercury based thermometers. And we know today that gravity field around the globe is not regular and so it is impacting the measurement. As the measurement trust, not only the trust in tools we use but even more in people making them as I said in the two last exemple, it is still a permanent debate in the current scientific population and this is the first thing looked at even before checking the result. Yes consensus are made by evidences, and yes in order to end in a consensus scientist get more evidences. it doesn't change the fact that evidences come from consensus. Each enriching the other. That's the very definition of a scientific logic : always doubt about everything until you can't anymore. In that perspective, skeptic people about anything, including climate change, are a good thing for science, as it force science to come with more and more proofs. And I'm convinced that a good part of skeptical people (not people rejecting science for ideology) but truly skeptical people, that will look in deeper, or just consider argument contradicting their skepticism are more scientific than the majority thinking "everyone saying that so it must be true".
2019-02-11 16:36
In most cases yes. This one? Not so sure about it.
2019-02-11 16:10
Scientists arrive at a consensus by understanding and testing the evidence. So you could say; consensus = reliable marker of good evidence.
2019-02-11 16:12
#129
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Greece deST) 
I wanted to believe that people from Japan are well educated and non retarded. You prove me wrong once again. Anyway , back to your hentai i guess
2019-02-11 15:48
Fun fact, he hasn't. NotTrik isn't Japanese. You can rest easy my friend :)
2019-02-11 16:15
#164
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Greece deST) 
Then another autism fakeflagger hltv user doing low quality b8 threads i guess Because i cant believe someone is so stupid to not believe that havent fcked up everything in this planet so far to cause something so simple to explain. Thanks mr flying dutchman
2019-02-11 16:18
Climate change rather.
2019-02-11 15:50
i dont think so little boy
2019-02-11 15:52
#138
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Bulgaria lektor 
Im global and not warming before game
2019-02-11 15:55
Thick as mince.
2019-02-11 16:05
This comment section is concerning. Yes that shit is real and we need to put effort into miminizing the damage. Just remember this quote: "97% of the world's scientists have contrived an environmental crisis, but have luckily been exposed by a courageous band of billionaires & oil companies."
2019-02-11 16:09
#172
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India otgps 
Global warming is real but we are ignoring a worse enemy in Urban Heat Island that is a self perpetuating machine. We are making shit worse for ourselves.
2019-02-11 16:27
Climate change is real, the planet has gone through various phases of cooling down and warming up, man made climate change however that's a whole different story. It's probably negligible what man's impact on how what the Earth does in terms of climate, for lack of a better term, but pollution is a whole different thing. Pollution is a real big health concern and is much more of a problem than "man made climate change." We should be focusing our efforts on reducing pollution for health safety reasons, not some myth known as "man made climate change"
2019-02-11 16:34
#181
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India otgps 
But you can't deny that the overall Average Global temperature is going up and up every year which is very clearly a result of decreased albedo of earth due to build up and increased Greenhouse Gas concentrations. Maybe it was meant to go up but it surely wasn't meant to go up this fast. Also, Cities are getting heated at alarming rates and if one thing we need to control that problem first
2019-02-11 16:41
Cities are heating up because of concrete and how all that shit works. Concrete holds in the heat better than just dirt and wood. Again, the global temperature goes up and down periodically and has always been doing that. If you're really bothered by that stuff, plant some trees, I'm sure the trees are enjoying the extra CO2.
2019-02-11 16:45
#190
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India otgps 
Yes. You are getting this. Now because cities are getting heated up, Air conditioners are getting used more and more. A/c units pump heat out of the building into the environment. As A/c pumps the heat out, the efficiency plays its part and let's say for every x amount of heat it rejects out of room, it rejects about 1.2x to atmosphere. This heat gets localised in the city itself which means A/c running harder and making the city more heated. Which means we are putting all this heat into the environment which is heating it up.
2019-02-11 17:02
#184
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Dominican Republic leberkas7 
there are various "natural" mechanisms which affect earths climate, however none of them can change it on on such a great scale in such a short time. CO2 release and its effect in the athmosphere is simple stoichiometry/chemistry. Saying it doesnt effect earths climate is like saying the earth is flat. wether you care about an increased average temperature or a increased sea level is something everyone has to decide for themselves.
2019-02-11 16:45
You didn't read it right, I said the impact is negligible not non-existent. Huge difference, even if you don't think it is.
2019-02-11 16:46
#187
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Dominican Republic leberkas7 
you mean negligible for you because it wont affect your personal life in the time you have left to live, or because it doesnt affect anyone around the earth?
2019-02-11 16:49
The Bible is also a myth, and yet you still believe in it? Myths are sometimes true you know.
2019-02-11 18:30
#202
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Netherlands poeya 
yes global warming not excist and earth also flat :)
2019-02-11 18:50
personally, i believe, the pacific is filled with plastic
2019-02-11 18:54
#205
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Japan hirohito 
ofc, that's a leftist bullshit made up so they can throw enormous money into mud the same with industrial smog - krakow is often given as an example for a very dirty city, yet poles living there live for the longest time from all of the big cities in poland - therefore bad influence of smog on the life isn't proven
2019-02-11 18:56
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