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Forsaken ban thoughts
Andorra TruthHurts 
So.. forsaken used cheats on his PC, my question is- Why didn't VAC catch him? why did the antivirus\windows defender was the flag that made the admin go and check his PC out. And that's a guy using some low tier cheats on a low tier tourney, and VAC failed! he was banned MANUALLY
2019-02-12 11:38
#1
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Brazil kaiknux 
Well we can only assume vac isn't 100% effective Saying his cheats are low tier would only lower this percentage in the discussion
2019-02-12 11:40
I assume it's low tier.. i could be wrong but i doubt he had thousands of $$$
2019-02-12 11:41
#7
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Brazil kaiknux 
Bro he's indian. Probably he programmed it himself
2019-02-12 11:43
Now that's 100% low tier cheats lmao
2019-02-12 11:43
#13
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Brazil kaiknux 
Lmao
2019-02-12 11:45
He didn't get detected lol how is it low tier
2019-02-12 13:13
nt forsaken ! he did get detected by AV, which is the reason i opened this thread.. to discuss
2019-02-12 13:16
Lul nt fake baget
2019-02-12 13:38
baguette mr tech support.. learn english and wtf does baguette has to do with andorra? stop being so stupid please..your IQ is like 70
2019-02-12 13:40
I know the spelling babydoll I just don't wanna get banned Also 70> 10iq
2019-02-12 13:43
true, but 70 IQ < 155 IQ That means that your IQ + your parents 10 IQ combined is just about half of my brain power
2019-02-12 14:13
#52
FalleN | 
India GalexE 
xaxa REKT You narcissist though
2019-02-12 14:44
At least i can back up my narcissism.
2019-02-12 14:45
#54
FalleN | 
India GalexE 
Just by words? Kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-02-12 14:45
Also by brute force. But yeah, i am too good with words
2019-02-12 14:47
#56
FalleN | 
India GalexE 
xaxa You really make good jokes
2019-02-12 14:48
Word porn
2019-02-12 14:52
#58
FalleN | 
India GalexE 
You know what? You suck.
2019-02-12 14:53
That's why he loves word porn xdxd he sucks
2019-02-12 15:09
#65
FalleN | 
India GalexE 
Yep and that is his narcissist command over the usage of words What a noob!
2019-02-12 15:14
He is maybe a kid
2019-02-12 15:15
Oh you guys are so cute, you should get a riksha and use word.exe on each other's ass
2019-02-12 15:17
Lul try hatder
2019-02-12 15:17
That's what galexE said rekt, end of game. bye
2019-02-12 15:18
Lmao can u even understand sarcsam fake baget
2019-02-12 15:18
You can't understand. How sad is it to be you.
2019-02-12 15:19
Lul
2019-02-12 15:20
omg dude stop it
2019-02-13 02:11
Lol u count urself 150iq lmao bagets are all less than 50
2019-02-12 15:09
Tech support, we've been through this before.. LEARN ENGLISH before you approach your supperiors.
2019-02-12 15:17
Lul ty for accepting defeat U have no point left so become a grammar nazi
2019-02-12 15:19
I won every time you commented, now when you lost again you turn into trying to point out how i defeated you. Sad
2019-02-12 15:20
Lul nt
2019-02-12 15:21
See? Back to tech support now loser
2019-02-12 15:21
Lul nt
2019-02-12 15:22
#91
RpK | 
France KepleR82b 
Yo man you're Indian, calm down with IQ lmao
2019-02-13 11:18
Xd
2019-02-13 11:39
#39
BnTeT | 
Indonesia pnakhwah 
I'M DYING LOL
2019-02-12 13:47
VAC can't even catch spinbotters in matchmaking, has to resort to Overwatch to do that.
2019-02-12 11:40
vacnet does it and sends them all to overwatch. just remember that overwatch has queues so it might take longer for someone to get banned
2019-02-13 02:00
+1
2019-02-13 11:25
#94
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Germany spankygengod 
Most people forget the trusted levels, vacnet introduced. Even if they don't get banned, they will play against more and more cheaters, the more they cheat.
2019-02-13 11:29
true but there is different modules which get streamed to people with lower trust factor which causes more bans in low trust factor. these modules have no effect to people with higher trust factor.
2019-02-13 12:48
4saken cannnot be 4given Lul EZ 4 Ence
2019-02-12 11:42
reported for using the E word
2019-02-12 11:44
LolzErs
2019-02-12 11:44
#45
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Spain VIKTORAL 
wow but he was best indian player :'(
2019-02-12 14:17
Lol
2019-02-12 15:09
#5
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
how do you know its a low tier cheat? he´s dumb, the settings were too obvious only that, i think he played faceit soo its not that low
2019-02-12 11:42
Right now VAC is much better tho, it now recognises some private cheats, banning few YouTubers who's content was based around sick kills and insane skill and now it appears that they were cheating, lol, so glad it happened
2019-02-12 11:42
#11
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
who got ban?
2019-02-12 11:44
#14
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
the guy with sick "bhop" skills i forgot his name.
2019-02-12 11:46
#17
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
zuhn?
2019-02-12 11:48
#24
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
oh yeah, but he was banned by face it i think
2019-02-12 11:55
#48
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Sweden Lagge15 
Bhop? I thought he got banned because of aim assistance
2019-02-12 14:33
#49
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
who got banned for bhop then?
2019-02-12 14:37
flipgod?
2019-02-12 15:00
#61
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Portugal [N]uKKeJ 
omg no, flipgod was banned for everything xD, he was using it all
2019-02-12 15:01
#97
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
yeah i meant this guy
2019-02-13 11:56
Worsteverson?
2019-02-13 10:56
One guy named duby, 9k subscribers or some shit, was also streaming. Insane scout flicks through walls and his fans thought he was legit, donated him, gifted skins etc. When he was banned, he behaved like a victim, said he was depressed after this, etc., his fans were too kind to him and said "No, you can grind and become good without cheats" and few days later he was alright, playing again and writing some shit on twitter. People are such idiots, fcking kids
2019-02-12 11:48
Nothing makes me happier than seeing justice handed out.. What do you think about the fact that a live tourney VAC and AC systems couldnt find it? and a simple AV caught it
2019-02-12 11:45
That was ridiculous and shows us that there are cheats that can bypass VAC, faceit and ESEA, so we shouldn't hesitate to report shady players, admins will figure out the rest.
2019-02-12 11:52
played wingman vs spinbot duo month ago, still not banned, lol
2019-02-13 13:45
Because VAC sucks?? Why do you think we have the Overwatch system in CS:GO?
2019-02-12 11:46
To make us feel good as if anything is being done :) Sugar pills
2019-02-12 11:47
#89
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Australia sad_faze_fan 
Overwatch is there to improve VACnet very nice
2019-02-13 10:57
#19
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France funKKush182 
Delete Internet Explorer.....thoughts?
2019-02-12 11:49
Forsaken was setup by the Chinese #freeforsaken
2019-02-12 11:49
Chup na lund
2019-02-12 13:14
Stfu fakeflagger
2019-02-13 01:24
I spoke hindi how am i fake 0iq kid
2019-02-13 01:47
Nt google translate
2019-02-13 05:01
Chutia aadmi mumbai se hu Bhosdiwaale Google doesn't translate bhosdi u chodu
2019-02-13 06:34
Nt Nikhil "forsaken" Kumawat
2019-02-13 10:50
#freeforsaken
2019-02-12 11:49
post his steam
2019-02-12 11:53
I think you've - like the majority - misunderstood how VAC works. VAC isn't a proactive anticheat that uses an array of measures to catch you red handed when you cheat. Instead of this, VAC collects quite a bit of data which can be later be used to determine if you were using a said hack. This is also why we get VAC ban waves instead of continuously seeing people get banned during matches. Obviously there are some commonly used, easily detectable hacks that even VAC has it's proactive defenses against but this isn't it's primary function. Overwatch we have to compensate the lack of admins who would be doing the proactive work. At the same time it assures people that the reports we hand out are actually achieving something. At minimum the players that get enough reports are being reviewed upon.
2019-02-12 11:55
Obviously (or not) i meant VAC as in any AC matter, be it tourney AC software, ESEA,FACEIT, anything... But i think it shows a bigger picture.. i wanted to hear other people's opinion
2019-02-12 13:12
Well, I doubt they actually have any proper proactive AC on a event like the one they had, I am guessing it is the admins doing the surveillance in general.
2019-02-13 16:39
thanks god, that he was caught
2019-02-12 12:12
#30
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Because he wasn’t cheating in valve servers playing mm
2019-02-12 13:14
Server was probably not VAC secured
2019-02-12 13:15
1-Server was probably not VAC secured. 2-As far as i know, no one has seen the source code, so we dont know if its a good or bad cheat. 3-I dont even know if the tournament org did send a sample of the word.exe to valve.
2019-02-12 13:43
By good cheat you mean... ? lmao im actually laughing right now what do you mean by sample? it's not a disease.. only 3 files
2019-02-12 14:13
By good cheat i mean something good enough to bypass VAC if it was active(wich i doubt). And by a sample, i mean a FUCKING sample, how are ppl at valve supposed to know how this work if they dont have access to it.
2019-02-12 14:19
It was ESL tourney if im not wrong..im pretty sure they communicate. BUT remember the moving force behind esports is.... BETTING Betting=mafia=rigged=you never know what happens back stage, as long as stupid teenagers keep buying stickers ,bet and buy stuff... all is well
2019-02-12 14:20
the cheat is publicly available to everyone and the paid version has caused untrusted bans before. the cheat is a joke
2019-02-13 02:03
#38
Romania jDT 
Man on 1.6 players they had cheats on their phones...so
2019-02-12 13:46
@ CSGO too
2019-02-12 14:14
#44
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Korea XigNw0w 
Nokia 3310 cheats.
2019-02-12 14:14
Unbreakable and undetectable
2019-02-13 12:01
#102
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Korea XigNw0w 
For sure.
2019-02-13 12:53
#42
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Korea XigNw0w 
Because vac is a fucking joke.
2019-02-12 14:13
#freeforsaken
2019-02-12 14:40
#51
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China Slasher8888 
The way how VAC works is it detects the apps running in your computer while ur playing cs. It has something like a database of apps that 100% guaranteed hacks. Therefore VAC is only able to detect hacks that r already proven to be hacks, for example ones that are easy to find and old online: usually are already easily banned by VAC. Forsaken might have either used a personal hack, or he got some new hack that VAC doesn't know. This is why VAC is both effective and bad: Effective because the bans are legit, there's almost no arguing against it, but bad because it's way too limiting in personal or new hacks and takes time to learn them.
2019-02-12 14:41
People who think VAC is good or any other anticheat out there ( all of them are hugely out dated ) are fucking lost and have no clue. Anticheats work just like #51 said. Its just bank of data. Without developing a whole new level of anticheat method there will be shit load of cheaters and we are fucked, but oh yeah.. cheaters bring millions of dollars for cheat makers and game developers so fuck it all and lets just rek those kids lmaooo
2019-02-12 14:55
vac was updated in 2018 to detect more internal cheats which hook the game functions in order to use features such as aimbot but of course this only applied to those who used the same exact hooking function which wasnt "bypassing" the detection. you can google this by yourself and yes, it will lead to cheating websites which i can't link.
2019-02-13 02:06
Only vac was database only in the past. Esl wire, esea and faceit all use more or less intrusive software. I have also experienced that vac is also lately intrusive. I was unable to join any vac servers when I had runelite running in the background, which heavily alters how another game plays. This doesn't happen any more though
2019-02-13 11:12
well I think that word.exe was an empty app, he definitely used the radar smoke bug..
2019-02-13 11:58
#100
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China s0lo 
hey,i am the guy caught forsaken. our tournament use B5 client(like ESEA,faceit),we have our own anti-cheat called BBI. not the antivirus\windows defender got the cheat,BBI caught it,then i went to check his pc. *edit:it's 9102 now,stop forsaken thread :)
2019-02-13 12:04
vac was joke since csgo started
2019-02-13 14:41
#106
NiKo | 
India se7eNNN 
Internet explorer still works?
2019-02-13 16:41
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