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Taco vs Gla1ve
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Brazil Fallenzera 
2019-02-12 15:57
#1
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Norway rogueplayer 
Smoke is not a wall, it's exactly like that pikachu meme smoke gets killed thru smoke because unluko push :OOOOOOO What if glaive spammed the smoke and the radar zoom/bug didn't exist? What then?
2019-02-12 16:02
#7
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Then it would be ok The thing is, Gla1ve uses the correct setting for the bug works properly :)
2019-02-12 16:04
#10
Spain rmkx 
what setting? Just looking at the radar? lmao
2019-02-12 16:05
#15
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Brazil Fallenzera 
If you dont know how set, not my problem :) But people will know where u are, before smoke fade away, good luck
2019-02-12 16:07
#20
Spain rmkx 
That's not a setting. It's just a bind. You can see the people on the radar even if you're full zoomed out, but by zooming in you get to place yourself better so you can kill trough the smoke. Valve should fix the this by making it so you don't get a dot until the smoke is fully faded away, or just make the radar not show enemies at all.
2019-02-12 16:09
#31
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Norway rogueplayer 
+1 people's names has been popping on my screen and their dot has come in my radar since 2014... why are people surprised now, i just dont get it???????????????????????????????????????
2019-02-12 16:14
#36
Spain rmkx 
People are mad because TACO tweeted it and they think it's a bug when if you zoom in on the radar you get to see the dot. They don't understand how it works, and they just follow what a pro said just because.
2019-02-12 16:19
#44
Spain rmkx 
That's not what TACO is talking about, though? You can see in the clip gla1ve is looking at the radar, not the middle of the screen, so I don't know how nvidia settings have a say in this.
2019-02-12 16:22
#140
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United States xxxhoshi 
Call me liar if you want, disrespect me if you want, you can ask all my previous teammates if i have ever had some special settings or whatever you are accusing me for. Expected more from you big bad wolf 👍
2019-02-12 19:52
#75
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
Bro, you don't get the point. It is a bug that was being abused by the Astralis players when even other pro players didn't know it existed. It was clearly an unfair advantage since there are many games where Astralis won because of this bug. And the fact that they didn't say anything about it makes it even worse. It's like saying that the boost from olof was "fair". Or that if someone found a bug that enabled wallhack midgame was "fair".
2019-02-12 16:37
dude flusha used it in iem katowice 2018. that was before the era of astralis. now fuck off if you dont know what you say
2019-02-12 16:48
#93
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
proof or it didnt happen
2019-02-12 16:49
2019-02-12 16:50
#99
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Brazil assisz 
He sure did use it, but it's still a bug, and abusing that is illegal
2019-02-12 17:01
thats not the point he made. i countered his argument. he wanted to say astralis did behave wrong for not telling anybody and have it as a secret. which i have shown is false. many knew it actually.
2019-02-12 18:27
#142
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Brazil assisz 
oh yes, sure.
2019-02-12 19:53
If people think this is unfair just remove even 1000 years after the first pro usage...this make no sense if you think what a smoke should be. People think taco is dumb because this post. I think glave and device are much worst to support ah possible bug. They should just shut up and win a major after they ban this.
2019-02-12 17:25
cool story. so no one should bhop as that is a exploit? the game is not intended in that way. also jumpboosts is an exploit
2019-02-12 18:29
Then maybe they should have put more attention to their radars? It's like saying that NiP players where abusing smokes when they put time into Cobble the first time it appeared in a major, just because nobody else knew how to throw them. If they were using the nvidia settings, then you would be right because is something external to the game that's giving an advantage. Same could be said for bhop scripts or jumpthrow scripts, you're getting an advantage that wouldn't be possible without using them. But yeah, I think them using this is fair if it's something that valve hasn't patched for a long time. Same goes for olof boost, I think it's fair that they used it, it was too overpowered of a boost, but I think it was fair because it's something that both teams could have done and be prepared for if they researched the map well enough.
2019-02-12 19:00
#132
aizy | 
Hungary tNyd 
+1
2019-02-12 17:51
#32
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Germany Fabbsen 
To make it not show enemies at all is stupid imo. If you handle it perfect you can get so much important informations about it. I agree with the other thing that Valve should fix though
2019-02-12 16:15
#35
Spain rmkx 
You didn't see enemies in 1.6, just teammates and the bomb if I remember correctly and it was fine. So why not?
2019-02-12 16:18
#40
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Germany Fabbsen 
never played 1.6 when csgo wasn't out yet. Also if you play mm or something soloq or without full team and your mates can't speak it makes it way harder for you also it deserves those people who are aware of the radar etc. instead of just looking at the screen to kill an enemy who shows up on it just my opinion
2019-02-12 16:21
#48
Spain rmkx 
Yeah, I have to give you the ponint in MM, but you still had to look at the radar in 1.6 because of friendly fire. Although, in 1.6 you needed the same communication as now or even better because of the radar not showing enemies. So maybe if all the community agreed on communicating we wouldn't need radar to show enemies and we wouldn't have arguments like this between pro players and the community itself.
2019-02-12 16:24
#51
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Germany Fabbsen 
Yeah, but there are many people playing the game who are maybe new or just see the game as killing people instead of playing proper as a team.
2019-02-12 16:26
cry is free
2019-02-13 12:30
#8
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United States circles308 
if he gets lucky by just spamming thats one thing but hes clearly staring at the radar
2019-02-12 16:04
and whats the problem on that?
2019-02-13 12:31
European logic on hltv, it doesnt matter if something is wrong, if an European are being accusing of something, lets just defend him.
2019-02-12 16:06
It not eu logic its just this guy is retarded
2019-02-12 16:11
oh ok, sorry
2019-02-12 16:11
Everyone who defends abuse of bug should try doint that on game that actually gets fixed like League (i dont play it but they actually try to make the game without bugs) abuse of shit like this should get punished... same goes for Big bug that they abused...
2019-02-12 16:13
#33
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Norway rogueplayer 
How can you conclude this? csgo devs has yet to say if it's a bug or a feature This shit has been going on since the launch of the game, why are people surprised now?
2019-02-12 16:16
Because since big every unfair advantage is looked upon very carefully, and i really doubt its feature. If you want to call it feature its unbalanced one.
2019-02-12 16:20
#41
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Norway rogueplayer 
How is it unbalanced if it's available to everyone on the server through the game settings and console?
2019-02-12 16:21
Because it gives advantage to the person outside of the smoke, also its same "feature" as invisible molotov smoke, that noone dared to use because they knew it was bug and guess what it got fixed...
2019-02-12 16:22
#46
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Norway rogueplayer 
What do you even mean? Do you even play this game? This shit works both ways, i.e. both outside and inside the smoke...
2019-02-12 16:24
If you are inside you spot person on radar like half a second later
2019-02-12 16:26
#78
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
If the MAJORITY of the players in the world didn't know about this "feature", then it is an unfair advantage. So you're saying that the boost from olof was fair?
2019-02-12 16:39
I bet that if someone from NA or Brazil did it he would be crying to get removed. I am european, my whole family is, i dont like brazillians on hltv but this "feature" is stupid broken shit.
2019-02-12 16:43
#87
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
+1
2019-02-12 16:47
#102
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Norway rogueplayer 
You're so triggered it's funny... all of this EU bias assumption is legit cringe of you because I have no favourite team in this scene so please cry more, it's obvious you're below DMG rank
2019-02-12 17:03
Saying truth is cringe? Only people i see defending this are eu people who are sick of brazillian retardos on hltv, so anything brazzilians support (in this case taco) they have to oppose like little kids. And for your info when i cared what rank i was i was supreme.
2019-02-12 17:15
#116
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Norway rogueplayer 
>only people I see this are eu people Still doesn't give you a valid reason to assume
2019-02-12 17:16
Its called educated guess
2019-02-12 17:24
#127
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Norway rogueplayer 
lmao gtfo outta here
2019-02-12 17:24
2019-02-13 12:26
#101
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Norway rogueplayer 
But that was a legit bug though, pixel jump shit afaik no? How is spotting someone through smoke a bug? Also #68
2019-02-12 17:02
#104
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
It's not that by itself.. he knew about it and instead of explaining how he does it so that the pro scene was balanced, he decided to just abuse it. It's like saying that the boost from olof was "legit"
2019-02-12 17:04
#105
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Norway rogueplayer 
Imagine explaining your advantages to your enemies in 2019 Holy, this logic of yours lmao Have you ever competed in sports....??
2019-02-12 17:06
#114
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
Have you? If it's an exploit that gives you an edge towards your opponent, then in some sports it's even considered CHEATING. We are not talking about not sharing tacticts, we are talking about a legit bug. Might as well use wallhacks and blame it on valve...
2019-02-12 17:16
#119
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Norway rogueplayer 
You're assuming it's an exploit or a bug. This whole discussion is just words back and forth without knowing anything for facts Explain to me how you came to this conclusion without asking the primary source here, i.e. in this situation is csgo dev? You're so lost on this case
2019-02-12 17:18
#57
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Brazil davidzor 
So you take is that because it has been on the game since day launch it isn't a bug? What about the jump BIG was using in 2017? Bugs and glitches are found playing the game. The right thing to do is to report it to the devs and find a solution that doesn't hurt the competitive environment.
2019-02-12 16:28
#68
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Norway rogueplayer 
I agree, but it's not up to us to assume whether or not it's a bug or a feature. Why is it like this to even begin with? csgo dev has to answer this because they're the primary source here
2019-02-12 16:31
#74
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Brazil Charizaldo 
This is not like a lucky kill spamming through smoke he just kept his eyes on the radar all the time
2019-02-12 16:36
oh boy how stupid are you, i havent seen more retarded comment here lol
2019-02-12 16:45
#98
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Norway rogueplayer 
imagine insulting someone for their comment yet there's no explanation to why nt subpar iq men
2019-02-12 17:00
'What if glaive spammed the smoke and the radar zoom/bug didn't exist? What then?' dude if you really need an explanation about this retarded sentence then im giving up, bye
2019-02-12 17:02
#103
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Norway rogueplayer 
cya never kiddo
2019-02-12 17:04
#2
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Brazil taylor4tw 
Hes not even looking for middle of the monitor lol.. just aiming by radar spotts.
2019-02-12 16:02
#6
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
np, mouse4 does the rest
2019-02-12 16:04
#17
BDSM | 
Europe AneleClap 
What is he supposed to do if he sees a player on the radar? not shoot? This is the oldest "bug" in the game. Everyone has known about this for years.
2019-02-12 16:07
#21
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Brazil Fallenzera 
No, we are not talking about seing a player on radar when next to him. We are talking about the radar showing someone behind the smoke, even so the smoke haven't faded away, this can only happen with the correct setting.
2019-02-12 16:09
#80
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Indonesia tjoeroed 
Its not really a "settings", its just zoomed in radar, and i can even see the red dot when its about to fade(not fading).
2019-02-12 16:41
#81
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Brazil Fallenzera 
2019-02-12 16:41
#91
BDSM | 
Europe AneleClap 
It has nothing to do with nvidia settings.
2019-02-12 16:48
#96
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Indonesia tjoeroed 
look at his 👀
2019-02-12 16:53
#90
BDSM | 
Europe AneleClap 
You can see it even without zooming in the radar...
2019-02-12 16:48
#72
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Brazil taylor4tw 
It's nor fair, bro. 1.6 radar > all No fking enemies spot on there... its not a minimap but radar.
2019-02-12 16:35
#3
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Nepal Ferreira_24 
Gla1ve is noob, need to use "cheats" to win
2019-02-12 16:03
#5
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Brazil Fallenzera 
not cheat But a bug , so they must fix it
2019-02-12 16:03
lmao just imagine when valve will remove it in the major
2019-02-12 16:03
They won't
2019-02-12 16:08
they will
2019-02-12 16:10
I aren't think that
2019-02-12 16:22
LOL they did
2019-02-13 10:34
#9
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France J0riS_ 
#8 of 2018 btw
2019-02-12 16:05
Everyone who pays attention to the minimap has spotted people behind smoke due to the bug, what are you supposed to do? Ignore it and wait for the smoke to clear? No you're going to shoot through it and kill the guy, only people to blame are valve for having a bug which makes people visible on radar through smokes.
2019-02-12 16:06
Agree, but Valve needs to fix that as soon as possible. The game shouldn't have those kind of stuff.
2019-02-12 16:09
I agree however it seems they just aren't good enough to fix it, through the years of CS the smoke has always been the buggiest feature, how many times have you thrown a smoke at a fire only for it to bounce away? How many times have you got killed through a one way smoke, remember the bug where if you tabbed out and in the smoke would disappear? I think value genuinely don't have the skill to fix the smoke.
2019-02-12 16:12
Yeah, I believe it's probabily really hard to fix, but they need to find a way.
2019-02-12 16:24
#82
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
No, we also have to blame the people that were using it and DIDN'T SHARE with the community in order to make the pro scene as balanced as possible. It's like if I used a cheat in game and say "Oh, blame Valve because their VAC system isn't good enough to catch my cheat"
2019-02-12 16:42
The smoke radar bug has been a thing for years, i have extremely good peripheral vision so i can see when a red dot appears on my minimap out of the corner of my eye, its been a bug ever since the game came out basically and i thought it was common knowledge this entire time.
2019-02-13 01:14
#157
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
Rekt! Valve just patched this bug
2019-02-13 02:26
That just makes me really dissapointed in valve, not for actually fixing it but how long it's taken to fix it, like I said I've known about it for years and thought it was common knowledge since it happens so often. Really shocked that it can be fixed so simply and they just never did it.
2019-02-13 11:30
#86
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Slovakia sanjuro 
you should report it to valve if u are pro and not silently using it.
2019-02-12 16:46
#12
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Sweden Trkmag 
Can't wait for when they remove this so gla1ve wont get these kills anymore
2019-02-12 16:06
#30
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United States AproximateCS 
Major might actually be interesting
2019-02-12 16:13
Astralis SHAME
2019-02-12 16:07
Idiot who use bugs and bigger idiot who doesnt...
2019-02-12 16:07
He never claimed he didnt use that?
2019-02-12 16:11
TACO use it aswell but he sucks at it that's why he's crying on Twitter.
2019-02-12 16:13
I agree, its part of the game therefore not cheating, what are we gonna ban people who bunnyhop now?
2019-02-12 16:30
+1
2019-02-12 16:53
#106
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Brazil assisz 
are u kidding? this is a bug asshole, abusing this shit is illegal. Like the big's jump in PGL Krakow
2019-02-12 17:07
#158
kiss | 
Albania My_Dick 
Rekt idiot! Smoke bug patched!
2019-02-13 02:26
I'm glad, I don't like having to abuse bugs nor get killed through smokes :)
2019-02-13 10:25
#67
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Brazil davidzor 
You can see the command on his cfg.
2019-02-12 16:31
#77
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World b1uhwk 
Literally every player looks at the radar when facing a smoke just in case you see them early but REEEEEEEEEE Astralis cheating <:(
2019-02-12 16:38
#27
swag | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
combat of the centurie, 2 big headed guys
2019-02-12 16:12
#34
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Germany Fabbsen 
Actually in the clip he could propably see him as the smoke was fading away and there was a hole at the bottom and smokes are client bases. Also s1mple stepped like an elephant and just began to sneak the last 2 metres. There are way better clips of him getting those smoke kills
2019-02-12 16:18
#58
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Germany mrrwombat 
+1
2019-02-12 16:29
#71
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World delliriun 
Look at hes eyes. "Fan of Astralis"
2019-02-12 16:34
what an idiot, are you blind or 10iq?
2019-02-12 16:48
this one is normal the smoke was just fading and the red dot could've just poped on the radar its not even some kind of a setting its a default bug gla1ve has hundreds other smoke kills that are unexplainable thats what we should be concerned for
2019-02-12 16:20
#43
SPUNJ | 
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
jesus i can't stand that ground squirrel.
2019-02-12 16:22
Do any of you guys have a headset?!?! You heard him running in that direction, and stop at the wall. He spammed the only place the guy would actually run to without running through the wall.....
2019-02-12 16:25
#107
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Brazil assisz 
Cool, now explain gla1ve's eyes looking at the radar all the time
2019-02-12 17:10
I actually have the radar zoomed more out, to see exactly where others "spot" the opponent. I use it often as AWP player to see where the player is eg. in window on mirage, d2 on long and from apps towards pit/site when others are short or long spotting pit. And when I'm playing with players without microphone to see the "info" on the radar before he writes it in the chat, or if he don't.
2019-02-12 17:51
#52
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Portugal Antzrede 
Using the radar
2019-02-12 16:26
#61
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Brazil Fallenzera 
proximacentauri
2019-02-12 16:29
#63
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Brazil Fallenzera 
ill ruin your try
2019-02-12 16:29
#69
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Greenland MadsMisKat 
You could see he was running, Gal1ve could hear him run you moron
2019-02-12 16:31
u can see him looking at the radar
2019-02-12 16:32
Who cares? Everyone does this Everyone fucking knows the red dot shows up on the radar before the guy shows up on screen
2019-02-12 16:35
#108
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Brazil assisz 
r u dumb or what? they r using a zoom on the radar to see it before, this is a bug, and they r abusing it
2019-02-12 17:13
Retard, everyone knows about it, felps was using it on stream as well while playing FPL 1 month ago The zoom on the radar doesn't make the enemy show up earlier on the radar, it just gives a better idea of where he is when the smoke is fading dumbfuck
2019-02-12 17:14
#117
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Brazil assisz 
still a bug asshole, they need to fix it, the people r abusing it, fucking dumb
2019-02-12 17:17
e-mail valve then dumbfuck
2019-02-12 17:19
#123
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Brazil assisz 
why would I do if more relevant people have already done it? so dumb mannnn
2019-02-12 17:20
TACO is complaining about a fucking zoom in on the radar bind, he's retarded, people could just default use the radar zoomed in Dumbfuck
2019-02-12 17:22
#126
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Brazil assisz 
REZ and SPUNj complained about seeing the enemies on the radar, my god you are very uninformed
2019-02-12 17:24
Who cares about REZ and SPUNJ, RETARD? The thread is TACO vs gla1ve, no shit this bug needs to be fixed, but everyone knoew about it dumbfuck
2019-02-12 17:46
#138
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Brazil assisz 
"why would I do if more relevant people have already done it?" "TACO is complaining about a fucking zoom in on the radar bind, he's retarded, people could just default use the radar zoomed in" OMG, How can you be such a fool? your arguments are flawed
2019-02-12 19:50
Holy fuck you're stupid, probably another 70 IQ paraiba
2019-02-12 19:51
#141
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Brazil assisz 
Typical attitude of a retarded, trying to attack the opponent and not rebut his arguments.
2019-02-12 19:53
You don't have arguments, literally zero. Both players behind a smoke can see the enemy in the radar 0,5 seconds before it shows up on the screen, this exists for over 3 fucking years, complaining about a fucking "radar zoom bind" is something that only a 70 IQ ape like you and TACO would do
2019-02-12 19:54
#144
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Brazil assisz 
This is still a fucking bug, and with the help of the radar zoom they have "improved" the abuse of this bug. You have to understand that bugs should not be in the game, Valve need to fix it. Now stop trying to defend that shit, you asshole.
2019-02-12 20:00
Retard, who is defending a bug? No shit the bug should be fixed, but that's with valve. The topic is about a fucking ZOOM IN RADAR BIND, and MONKEY TACO wants a fucking ZOOM IN RADAR BIND BANNED, can't you understand how stupid and dumb he (and you) sound?
2019-02-12 20:02
#148
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Brazil assisz 
I don’t want the zoom in radar banned, i just want that Valve fix the fucking bug. “Both players behind a smoke can see the enemy in the radar 0,5 seconds before it shows up on the screen, this exists for over 3 fucking years” U were defending, you retard
2019-02-12 20:08
Defending the bind, and that taco is retarded for asking to ban a fucking BIND, who the fuck is going to defend a bug? RETARDDDDD
2019-02-12 20:11
#150
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Brazil assisz 
You were defending asshole, just accept this. Now i will do something better, cya bitch.
2019-02-12 20:15
taco is asking a way to make "radar bug useless" while valve don't fix(they probably wont) because they have only 1 dev and dont care about the game. one way easy way to control it is to check for cl_radar_scale binds , dont u you agree? what its eaiser than that? (he though nobody i know would use default cl_radar_scale 0.7, theres no reason for that besides exploiting the bug) its really hard for you understand his point? how would you do without valve help?
2019-02-12 22:55
nvidia.exe astralis too stronk
2019-02-12 16:37
Only n00bs playing the game for a couple of years think that Astralis overpowering the entire scene it's a demonstration of skill mainly when you have players being nominated mvp's (ROFL) like Dupreeh or Magisk that are absolutely regular players on the scene, adding nothing more the game except being from Astralis. What is being said bt Taco was already suggested by numerous players in the world like s1mple for example. It's a bug? Fix it! There are teams take more advantage from the bug than others? Yes. Fix it! having n00bs talking about footsteps and hearing and shit, is nothing than exactly that: n00bs! Glad that a pro player brought the matter into the open. It's time to be serious in the game, mostly in the pro scene and if a team takes advantage over any other team of a bug, that isn't being serious at all!
2019-02-12 16:41
#84
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Even i am getting kills like this and i admit i am only an mm noob. Idk why people get crazy over this. I guess they are even noober. What happened to everyone global in hltv?
2019-02-12 16:44
just the casual #1 team being hated on, nothing new kids are being kids, the average age has dropped down as well in years I guess so it has an effect too
2019-02-12 17:13
Shouldn't, I prayed to the fortnite gods to take them...
2019-02-12 17:52
Are we talking about nvidia settings or seeing someone on radar? because i see that most people dont even know what are they arguing for lol
2019-02-12 16:49
it is just a fucking bind that makes your radar more zoomed in, it is a fucking bind not a bug, how do they plan on fixing this "bug" I wonder the thing that needs to be fixed is the enemies popping up on the radar before the smoke is gone
2019-02-12 17:14
Yeah but 90% of these clueless kids dont even know what they are arguing for lol
2019-02-12 17:15
yeah it is just the casual hatred against the #1 team :D, fnatic had it, SK had it and now Astralis they need to blame something over their favourite teams' losses
2019-02-12 17:16
Yes but nvidia settings are literally free kills tho (not talking about radar things)
2019-02-12 17:18
#94
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Brazil tupacman 
gla1ve egghead
2019-02-12 16:49
#118
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Israel aequus 
you can clearly see gla1ve is killing him only because of the radar
2019-02-12 17:18
wow look at his eyes, he is clearly looking at the radar O_O
2019-02-12 17:27
LOok his eyes on map
2019-02-12 17:27
s1mple was stepping like a horse the radar thing is just a part of the game it's valve's fault for letting this shit exist
2019-02-12 17:55
so you think its a cool thing, that's supposed to be used like that ? where a player with better skill loses to a exploiter, cool game to watch huh? this is not a small thing. gla1ve was the best using this good for him, but it was really annoying to watch him killing enemies without any reaction from the other side.
2019-02-12 20:06
It's the dev team's fault for letting this exist. It's not about the radar bind. It's about being able to see ppl who are in the smoke on the radar before the smoke is gone. People adapt to it. Hopefully Valve will fix this ASAP. Just remember that it's not the bind. It's the radar bug that allows you to see the enemy before the smoke is gone. Every pro player abuses this but the Astralis players do it the best. It's only about the fading smokes. Everyone with commmon sense will know that except the "bug" Astralis players actually practice shooting through smokes. They find particular lineups for the plant spots and camping positions and prefire them.
2019-02-12 20:17
not everybody knew that,i know it sounds unbelievable, but at least some players like JW said that. but i agree 100% with you, its valve fault's maybe it's intentional , but i don't really like.
2019-02-12 21:30
#146
KSCERATO | 
Venezuela 643 
i do not recognize astralis as the last major winner, and i declare myself the major winner
2019-02-12 20:05
+1
2019-02-13 12:28
how many unfair kills he got I wonder
2019-02-13 01:15
and TACO won the fight, just like he will win this major
2019-02-13 10:32
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