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Astralis won't care
Germany darksemmel 
How dense does one have to be to think that because a bug everyone knew about is now no longer in the game will suddenly make Astralis less dominant?
2019-02-13 10:33
Rip in Pepperonis (smoke flavored)
2019-02-13 10:34
2019-02-13 15:05
Asia SiduLooty 
2019-02-14 18:57
Poland OkayAlright 
Because they usually won around 2 to 3 rounds a map by only killing people while standing in smoke?
2019-02-13 10:35
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Almoe 
2019-02-13 10:37
you must be kidding 1:10 and that was not the first important smoke kill
2019-02-13 14:58
The smoke wasn't even dissipating? He just knew the lineup. Get over yourselves with this shit
2019-02-13 15:06
yeah purely game sense right)))
2019-02-13 15:08
alrighty dude
2019-02-13 15:09
so you think a normal person can shot through a smoke making a direct hit to the guy defusing the bomb without any external tools? lm not talking only about the "smoke bug" here
2019-02-13 15:12
Yes...go play a retake server and you learn these angles. I have done it many times and I suck
2019-02-13 15:15
so l have no voice here /retiring
2019-02-13 15:16
Not only had the link you sent in #44 anything to do with the 'smoke bug', that one is just pure lineup. "so you think a normal person can shot through a smoke making a direct hit to the guy defusing the bomb without any external tools?" Sub silver, no. Above silver, absolutely. And last but not least: >normal person >pro
2019-02-13 23:39
lmao ofcourse, he didnt even hit the first 2 shots so wtf u talking about silver XDDD
2019-02-14 18:45
you are actually a silver
2019-02-14 22:37
Unbelievable, pros not so often hit someone that is defusing under smoke, but you think is totally ok if dupreeh being the smoked one hit a person with AN AWP through smoke. Right
2019-02-15 01:02
do you really think that if that bug was the reason for it no one else would use it? Do you remember the jump-bug BIG started to use in one event? It didn't take half a day until every time used it
2019-02-13 10:37
yes I think so. They used it alot before everyone else caught up. mibr even figured out how to not play into astralis smoke recently (still ost though) but they looked mortal
2019-02-13 10:39
and afterwards they were still dominant, correct? So whats the point?
2019-02-13 10:40
not really, there havent been many events. they look beatable now The point is the game is fair and without clutch smoke kill rounds and strategies, im sure close games will edge in favor of teams that invested more time into playing legit
2019-02-13 10:42
yes. 6 1st places in the last 7 events is of course beatable... but you like to not answer to the main point: do you really think that if that bug was the reason for it no one else would use it? Why does only the magic Astralis have the capability to clutch rounds with it? Because its selective perception of what you want to see and what not
2019-02-13 10:45
not to the same extent and definitely not at the first half of the season, afterwards teams started to realize what was going on. ofcourse its selective perception, I dislike astralis its pretty obvious, but I am glad they fix this exploit so easily. I mean astralis could go on keep dominating, but im relieved that now there wont be this shit no more
2019-02-14 18:26
Denmark MeToxi 
You do realize that there is no turning of this bug? Every single professional AND casual player will see it on the radar when a smoke is dissipating and an enemy is behind it. You would have to directly focus on not looking at the map to avoid it and I doubt that any pro would like to waste energy on that when it: 1. Has always been part of the game 2. Have been used by 99% of pros 3. Is considered fair play because of just that.
2019-02-14 19:03
You mean 16-0? Was that because of smoke?
2019-02-13 10:50
what are you talking about?
2019-02-14 18:21
you just said that astralis are winning only cuz of smoke bug. getting 16-0ed is it only because of smokes? wtf are you smoking, pass it on to us mate
2019-02-14 20:23
Denmark Twick_ 
Not true
2019-02-13 13:46
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
2019-02-14 21:15
Cus they abused it so much like a priest does with a lil kid
2019-02-13 10:36
do you really think that if that bug was the reason for it no one else would use it? Do you remember the jump-bug BIG started to use in one event? It didn't take half a day until every time used it.
2019-02-13 10:37
Yes but the problem is that astralis exploited it so much and their wins started to rely on those smoke clutch rounds
2019-02-13 10:41
I repeat: do you really think that if that bug was the reason for it no one else would use it? Why does only the magic Astralis have the capability to clutch rounds with it? Because its selective perception of what you want to see and what not
2019-02-13 10:42
Just wait to see the results on the major ;)
2019-02-13 10:45
the point is - even if they won't be first. Its not because of the smoke bug.
2019-02-13 10:46
and not answering what I say does not make your point more valid
2019-02-13 10:46
Israel unsolid 
People who think that astralis is #1 because of that bug are no people to reason with
2019-02-13 10:37
+1 but i like a challenge :)
2019-02-13 10:38
Germany mrrwombat 
2019-02-13 10:44
+1, they get like 2 smoke kills per game, if even and whenever they get those smoke kills, ppl start deep throating on panic mode, but whenever ANY other player does something lucky, they are somehow "insane". like happy's 5k deag is praised when it was pure luck, gla1ve gets like a total of 15 smoke kills in a entire year, suddenly he's hacking
2019-02-13 14:58
Israel unsolid 
And it goes to xyp9x's "luck clutch" and dupreeh's "lucky" opening accroding to braindeads. it's just top tier skill all of astralis players have. Conclusion: HLTV fangays hate astralis.
2019-02-13 15:04
they act as if those kills actually changed the outcome, xyp had the clutch anyways, he wouldve saw cold first no matter what, also astralis beat mibr EVERY single time
2019-02-13 15:06
Israel unsolid 
Astralis keeps winning tier 1 tourneys in a row, must be luck or cheats
2019-02-13 15:11
just like wallen and senor vac
2019-02-13 15:12
lsd | 
Denmark ut00 
2019-02-14 18:54
Italy CESPU 
2019-02-14 20:32
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
0/8 everybody knows that astralis will be back to top50 team from now on
2019-02-13 10:42
Only the usual tinfoils actually thinks this had anything to do with their nr 1 spot
2019-02-13 10:44
lmaooooooo mad
2019-02-13 13:27
Found one lul
2019-02-13 13:40
you'll see gayboi
2019-02-13 13:45
Who’s mad now hahaha
2019-02-13 13:57
clearly you gay dane
2019-02-13 13:57
Calling someone gay as an insult lul im 12 btw haHAA
2019-02-13 14:43
arent being gay is typical danish tho?
2019-02-13 14:54
And now in English please
2019-02-13 14:55
go to school maybe
2019-02-13 14:56
LUL self owned have a nice day budster
2019-02-13 14:56
ye i own myself, and i own you
2019-02-13 14:57
I´m actually 100% convinced you´re 12 now LOL done replying you now I cant be asked lmao have a good day
2019-02-13 15:00
i won, nt kiddo, you must be 15 and looking down on 12yo
2019-02-13 15:00
South Africa ThyFleekz 
2019-02-13 15:00
zonic | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
2019-02-13 23:21
Dense enough to shout NO BUG NO BIG lmao
2019-02-13 10:48
2019-02-13 13:26
Astralis and specially Xyp9x and gla1ve use this "cheat" most so now without this bug RIP Astralis kids MIBR TOP 1
2019-02-13 13:27
Japan Switchance 
Astralis were the best in all aspects in 2018. Not only the use of smoke bug.
2019-02-13 13:29
Finland Jardeet 
and now in English?
2019-02-13 13:42
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Shit bug use sound esp much ez :) confirmed by gla1ve
2019-02-13 13:43
North America Techno_Lover 
who even cares, the game is dead
2019-02-13 13:58
United States Trump2020KAG 
It will for Gay1ve. He gets 6+/- kills a game from it plus gives out info that only 1 or 2 or nobody is here. Device dup and mag will still be good players but 100% this will hurt Astralis.
2019-02-13 14:00
would be fun seeing them out in the groups :>
2019-02-13 14:01
Turkey mtdN 
That shows how people hate from Astralis. People generally can't stand the best such as Golden State and Astralis, they continues to play like a god and eleminates the teams until Liquid
2019-02-13 14:59
I bet Glaive will suck ass now because that is how he got a lot of his kills
2019-02-13 15:12
Croatia feelsbadmane 
loooooooool,before 1 year Glaive was always bottom fragging and then since last year (SMOKE BUG) he became best player in the team all of the sudden always top fragging always....figure out yourself
2019-02-13 15:16
Denmark MeToxi 
The smoke bug has been present for the entire lifespan of csgo dummy.
2019-02-14 19:09
Finland mattixboi 
they'll be less dominant even if the smoke bug fix does nothing to em, nothing can stay on for too long
2019-02-14 18:27
Israel Fledj^_^ 
2019-02-14 18:28
It'll certainly make Gla1ve be as shit as he used to be if anything
2019-02-14 18:29
I mean, i think itll affect some rounds, theres been rounds where theyve used that glitch, and it has won the round. and one round can make all the difference, i dont think theyll just crumple. ill just think theyll lose a few more rounds than usual
2019-02-14 18:58
Denmark MeToxi 
How difficult is it to understand that this bug has been so present in counter strike for so long that 99% of pros have used it?
2019-02-14 19:10
ik they have, just astralis did it more so, hell i used it, was a lot less succesful obviously, but still, its not exactly going to benefit them is it?
2019-02-14 20:27
Denmark MeToxi 
How do you know? It is literally impossible for you to know
2019-02-14 20:30
no need to get so defensive lol, im sorry but having one of you abilities in your repotoir be removed aint gonna help you
2019-02-14 21:12
Denmark MeToxi 
Are you seriously claiming to have watched 10000+ matches in the last 7 years? And being able to remember every single frag? Why haven't I heard of you on the news with that brain? Even if you just had to remember every single frag of every single match in 2018 you'd be top 0.000000001%. That is 1213 maps(top20 teams only) in total in big events where you'll have to remember every single frag from the actual POV of the player fragging. Just for 2018. There is a big difference between being successful and trying to be successful but failing. People remember the successful but quickly forgets the unsuccessful ones. Most of the frags that people remember is before the smoke is even fading which is a great sign that most don't actually know what they're talking about. And as I've said already, you're basing it of something that you're highly unqualified to assume. And FYI, I'm not defensive against astralis hate per say, I'm defensive against ignorance and unjustified hate in general. I just happen to be an Astralis fan also.
2019-02-14 21:31
right..... okay just saying that no matter who you are its gonna hurt, just astralis a bit more cause they use it more often, its not gonna do much lol, it just happened to assist in winning a lot of rounds
2019-02-14 22:17
Denmark MeToxi 
And I'm saying that the correct way of saying it is that astralis were more successful using it. Not that they were using it more.
2019-02-14 22:34
Finland Tusku 
yeah, nerfing the awp wouldnt make teams with world class awpers worse off against rifle-based teams either
2019-02-14 18:59
United States jay_320 
People are dumb. Astralis should be more worried about Liquid then a bug that was relevant maybe once or twice a match.
2019-02-14 21:15
astralis worried? ok.
2019-02-14 22:39
United States Samsquanch_ 
Lol you know they are because they responded to everyone on twitter calling them out before the major and we’re desperately trying to say that they had no idea what anyone was talking about. That was an attempt to prevent the devs from forcing the update. The community has spoken, and after this major, astralis’s Titles will forever have an asterisk next to their name (for anyone in the scene). Their ‘era’ is based on lies, and it’s over.
2019-02-14 22:43
yeah, fnatic era?? no they did cheat with flusha and olofboost astralis era?? no they used a "bug" which everybody used, and is so fucking irrelevant haha nice logic astralis is the best team right now, even if they dont win this tournemant they will for sure be still no.1 prevent devs from forcing update?? wtf you talking bout haha
2019-02-14 22:47
You're gonna all shut your mouth. All time again french team but know let's stop.
2019-02-14 23:03
Brazil coldnikozera 
2019-02-14 23:04
Astralis will still be #1, agreed. But I think you're underestimating this smoke bug, you don't understand the extend of it's value. The only thing you see on stream is when gla1ve or xyp kills someone through the smoke using the bug, but in alot of times the smoke bug was used as a way to get information without shooting. You could for example predict an A-take on inferno by sitting in the mid smoke and seeing T's on the rader.
2019-02-14 23:53
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