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Why so many csgo players end their career's in 30 or 31 yo? Look at Ronaldo and Lebron James. They are still tier 1 players at their sports
2019-02-15 15:12
30yo 30cm?
2019-02-15 15:13
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo there, 30yo's
2019-02-15 15:13
#7
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Europe pencilvester 
🤦 actual content
2019-02-15 15:15
🤠 what do you mean
2019-02-15 15:16
#39
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Europe pencilvester 
Howdy there partner
2019-02-15 15:28
Howdy ma'am 🤠 *tips cowboy hat and spits tabacco in the spit bucket
2019-02-15 16:12
#75
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Belarus Pagonya 
*Slaps* the horse.
2019-02-15 16:18
god bless you 😎
2019-02-15 15:19
#37
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Europe pencilvester 
Thx men I couldnt hold it
2019-02-15 15:26
#78
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Finland _Niilo22_ 
Learn english
2019-02-15 16:19
#80
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Europe pencilvester 
Vittu you men
2019-02-15 17:04
#89
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Finland _Niilo22_ 
Reported
2019-02-15 18:26
#92
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Europe pencilvester 
Wtf men I say thank you in your language and you report?
2019-02-15 18:33
#53
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United Kingdom munt_ 
godspeed men
2019-02-15 15:35
#95
Kaze | 
Malaysia Mazekage 
31 actually count it
2019-02-15 18:41
31
2019-02-15 15:13
#4
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Hungary lemusz 
couz at 30 you have a reaction time like grandma compared to 18s
2019-02-15 15:14
Do you think, that you don't need reaction in football or basketball?
2019-02-15 15:15
Not close to CS, i used to box and trust me CS demands much faster reflexes and much more precise motor controls. This coming from someone who boxed for 12 years from the age of 6 to 18.
2019-02-15 15:17
I'm not sure. When you are playing in Champions League final or NBA final, you need same reaction
2019-02-15 15:18
You really dont though, things happen slower than in this game, then the targets are so small and can move so fast and in a manner far more agile than even the best athlete, the margins are so fine that the slightest decline in fine motor control is huge.
2019-02-15 15:19
This is all offset by the fact that you need to move a lot and run a lot. In the csgo you only needs to move the mouse.
2019-02-15 15:21
Yes exactly, one is more about power, stamina and being explosive , the other is more about fine motor control and reflexes, things like this really start to die once you start to enter your 30s.
2019-02-15 15:23
#43
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United States BGS 
yea man.. you dont need any reflexes in baseaball. plenty of older gents in the MLB who still rake in the mid 30's.
2019-02-15 15:29
You still need to react to where the ball goes and intercept the ball first but they arent as important.
2019-02-15 15:30
#18
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
you are full of shit,i am boxing for 4,5 years and its not true at all.
2019-02-15 15:19
It is, i boxed for 12 years, youll realise in the next few years how much time you really have in the ring, at your stage youre kind of a novice. I can personally completely relax when i box and use hardly any energy.
2019-02-15 15:21
#32
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
u simply cannot compare cs to boxing.Boxing is far more difficult
2019-02-15 15:24
Im not comparing it im saying how they are different, Boxing is far more physically demanding yes, but CS requires much more fine motor control and i would also argue even more in terms of reflexes, boxing more about the understand of timing and angles, in Boxing if your opponent is faster than you theres a lot you can do, in CS theres not as much so it leans more on the side of raw mechanical skill. In boxing you can clinch, spoil, smother and slow people down with body shots or just use angles where they cant hit you without opening themselves up, you cant do that to the same degree in CS. For instance in a ring i can stand right infront of you and hardly get hit, in CS you expose yourself for 300ms your dead.
2019-02-15 15:31
this
2019-02-15 15:49
#59
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United Kingdom drackula 
Boxing eggs at Tesco doesn't count pal
2019-02-15 15:40
You right, well done, you get one house point.
2019-02-15 15:52
Disagree, these old players can switch roles and still be useful at an old age. A lot of footballers switch to more support roles at an old age. With their experience they can still be useful. But most of these 30 yo cs players just lose motivation it seems. Someone like f0rest for example has won everything in his career, no reason to tryhard at his 30s.
2019-02-15 15:52
#19
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Hungary lemusz 
not like in csgo where a lot of things can happen just in 1 second
2019-02-15 15:19
Tell that to Tom Brady, best NFL QB of all time in the history of the game and he plans on playing till 45. Pretty sure for his sport you need to be in shape, have brains and a fast reaction time.
2019-02-15 15:19
#30
Savage | 
Austria RRRS7 
that is not true. its all about motivation and training. like in every sport
2019-02-15 15:23
Not really, you can train all you want some people just dont have it and some do and some people lose it and never get it back.
2019-02-15 15:28
Dumbest myth ever, there's literally almost no difference in reaction times between 18 and 30 year old, unless you have parkinson's The real answer is that people start having kids and not having enough time/motivation to play CS 14 hours a day anymore
2019-02-15 15:28
#77
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Italy CESPU 
+1 but its not only reaction... if you see, EVERY 30 year old gamer just cant get compared with 18. movement/aim/everything
2019-02-15 16:19
thats completely untrue, stop spewing bs
2019-02-15 18:28
Saved enough money or cause of family and kids dunno, they could still play in their 40s its just gaming, not like they are using their body and not in shape.
2019-02-15 15:14
u my friend are retarded
2019-02-15 17:19
In addition, Ronaldo and James are engaged in hard physical labor, while the cs go pro players just sit at the computer.
2019-02-15 15:14
lebron james goat😎
2019-02-15 15:16
But even without the physical decrease we suffer from aging, I believe professional esport is much more exausting thant professional sport. Compare how many days pro players spend at home. In sport, competitions are regulated in order to let some required leaves between each other, players make quick go and back of about 2 days max every weeks, while in esport they travel for 2 weeks of competitions. In sport, there is staff for everything, players just have to train their skill. While in esport, players are part of creating the strategy, creating tricks, etc.. Also, to be on top, pro players in sport train few hours a day, way lower than esport players that are training for 8hours, plus individual skill training, etc.. I honestly understand why esport player stops after 10/15 years as this is an exhausting life and time consumming life. Once you hit 30+ years, you want to settle a bit more, thinking of kids and stuff like that. And this is incompatible with professional esport player career I believe.
2019-02-15 15:22
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allu | 
North America hesh 
yes an esport where ur required to spend 0 time in the gym is more exhausting than a professional sport....probably the dumbest shit i've ever heard.
2019-02-15 15:26
Sure thing when you have no brain to exhaust you won't be able to understand that exhaust is not only physical.
2019-02-15 15:28
it's because, you can't training more than 5-6 hrs every day, playing football, cuz your muscles needs to relax, instead of esports, where you can training 10-15 hrs every day and just sleep+eat
2019-02-15 15:32
That's what I said above.
2019-02-15 15:33
It requires the same level of time, dedication and effort, you need to train, now the training is different. The main difference is that CS heavily relies on fine motor skills and these are the first things to start to deteriorate as you age.
2019-02-15 15:30
Football players also have a family. They all have big business, so many flights and promotional contracts. They just use managers to work with all this. I think, that players like s1mple can play for a long time and also, they have enough money to use a manager and think only about cs.
2019-02-15 15:29
No not yet at least, because as you and me said, they have people to handle a lot of things. And even if esport players win a lot compared to normal people, they are far from having the recruting power of footballers or such.
2019-02-15 15:35
#55
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United States BGS 
what are you talking about? sport players do so much more then anything you just implied. don't go spewing BS if you don't really know what goes into playing a sport.. no offense to you.
2019-02-15 15:36
The point is not about sport players doing much or less. Ofc they do more. They point here is what they do less than esport players.
2019-02-15 15:37
#60
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United States BGS 
Do you know what time a MLB baseball player gets to the ballpark for a 7pm game? A lot of them get there around NOON. That's 7 hours prior to the game. They play 162 games a season (just regular season). They just started spring training 2 months prior to their season starting. Tell me more about all this time they get off. Players watch SO MUCH film on them and their competition. Literally the same thing as coming up with strats (please remember CS teams are mostly made up of coaches now at the big level)
2019-02-15 15:41
Lebron James and Ronaldo MLB players? That's new. Beside, you seems to think I believe being a pro sport player is easy, I never said that.
2019-02-15 15:46
#64
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United States BGS 
"I believe professional esport is much more exausting thant professional sport." .. dont make broad statements if you are talking specifically about something then. Never said you said sports was easy I was just pointing out things that I think you are over looking. Players have more input then you are implying. Lebron James has probably drawn up hundreds of plays throughout his career (if you want to talk specifically about LBJ)
2019-02-15 15:49
I specifically talk about a thread I'm answering to. Read OP message at least before replying. But related to the amount of csgo pro player match, are you sure LBJ or any other NBA player played more?
2019-02-15 15:52
#11
Brazil xOwn 
30yo Ronaldo - hard training to keep fit 30yo csgo player - fat and bald
2019-02-15 15:16
#15
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic JeSuS_ 
Hello, pasha here, wanna see my biceps?
2019-02-15 15:18
Pasha no biceps anymore lul, #11 is truth
2019-02-15 15:37
2019-02-15 15:19
none of the relevant players around 30 are fat and bald lmao(maybe a few but still)
2019-02-15 15:25
+1111
2019-02-15 15:34
csgo player - not gay
2019-02-15 15:59
even in 30yo
2019-02-15 16:00
gob b and forrst
2019-02-15 15:17
#22
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Brazil shakzera 
cuz they are tired, most of them played games for more than 10 years, and playing as pro is really different that playing as amateur.
2019-02-15 15:19
#23
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Turkey tastemycobra 
30 year olds have difficulties adjusting their 1.6 skills to csgo; then eventually get surpassed by some 15 year old kid.
2019-02-15 15:19
The main reason in the past is that players needed to make a living. Most had to deal with real lives and could not live playing cs unless they were number one but times are changing. You will see people playing in to their 40's soon. They can feed their family and live off the game with contracts.
2019-02-15 15:21
#26
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United Kingdom foolio 
Because most people who get to that age tend to have outside commitments that will limit your playing time(kids, wife, maybe even investments), also its very hard to have the passion to carry on playing the same game day after day if you've already been playing for 10-15 years.
2019-02-15 15:21
Well not really. If you are pro thats your job, generally all adults with commitments or not still need to work full time. It doesnt really matter if your job at the office is playing cs or developing software or what ever :) Also kids and wifes etc isn't really that time consuming what people think. Depends of course on the family and your job etc, but I have lots of friends in this situation, they pop up online around 21 in the evening and can play 3-4 hours every day (these are of course non pro hours). But motivation that surely is a factor. It is a lot of work to stay on top year after year. Reaction times and other physical stuff i dont think is an issue before way beyond 40+.
2019-02-15 18:56
#34
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Norway analpain1337 
you cant get soccer pro at age 10 since you cant spend 10hours a day training soccer. at the age 10, if your parrents allow you to play esports you can spend about 4-10hours a day from age 6ish that ecualls 11200 hours of csgo And thats 11200 soccer trainings, a normal soccer team practice 1-2 a week in that age for 1 hour. so thats 10 years of hard dedication to fotball. T TLDR they more or less have the same years in Pro play
2019-02-15 15:26
#46
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Russia mnight 
Because of family and kids? You can't do both successfully. I wouldn't recommend anyone becoming pro at any age since there's always something important to do: studying, meeting a partner, family, "carving" a man out of yourself. It just doesn't work with progamer lifestyle.
2019-02-15 15:31
People is exaggerating this "30 y/o no reflexes". The difference is not THAT big, if have good physic and kept "using your reaction ability" (in sports/games) you still have good reflexes. No problem at all. But around when you turn 40 and after that, your reflexes WILL be worse naturally. Ask many adults and they will say that "after 40" the body will change in different ways.
2019-02-15 15:32
record is 40 right?
2019-02-15 15:33
30+ yo cs pro players need to start thinking about getting a real job at that age
2019-02-15 15:34
not sure. For example, Zeus's salary is 10k$ per month. Do you think, he needs to find a job. Ofc, you can't use this money until 90yo, but if you use this money for business, you can reach more
2019-02-15 15:57
or lose it all :D
2019-02-15 17:06
They listen to the crowd too much , cuz as u probably realised people know better than u , how good ure , how do u feel etc.
2019-02-15 15:38
Here's why: humanbenchmark.com/ "Reaction time"
2019-02-15 15:49
Do you think, Ronaldo's or Lebron James's reaction is worse than esports player's reaction?
2019-02-15 15:55
#73
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France Alpha7a2 
ofc
2019-02-15 16:13
Doesn't matter nearly as much in sports. 50-100ms difference isn't shit in ball games.
2019-02-15 16:16
in cs, reaction doesn't mean too much. If you can flick, you don't need to see your enemy earlier. Experience means a lot
2019-02-15 16:18
Bs
2019-02-15 17:22
You are in denial. There are countless of articles saying Esports are very good for your motor skills and your brain reaction time as well. Regular sports are also good but not nearly as demanding as Esports. But I think the main thing why you don't see 30+ pro players doing well is because most of them have already won anything at that age. They also get a wife and kid and just can't play whole day any more. They also get the same amount of money no matter if they perform or not and that's also a really big issue.
2019-02-15 17:22
"Regular sports are also good but not nearly as demanding as Esports." Yeah, he's the one in denial
2019-02-15 18:36
I don't even play cs anymore. I was talking about motor skills and brain reaction times.
2019-02-15 18:54
not true, reaction time of a 30 yo is almost the same as 18 yo
2019-02-15 18:31
imo if u are 30+ u dont have enough time to play cs all day, u got life like fiancee/wife or maybe u got kid. if u are around 17-28 maybe u can practice around 10 hours a day but if u are older u cant cause u need to take care your family
2019-02-15 17:02
So when you are 30 you are not working 8-10 hours a day to take care of your family?
2019-02-15 19:03
ur motivation to grind practice slowly goes down, you burn out more easily, your level of play starts to drop, ur wrist is fucking dead after 1001404 years of play, as result u can't keep up with new players. GG
2019-02-15 17:14
lack of motivation/constantly changing environment and meta that becomes harder to adapt to for older players/age-related slower reaction time and loss of high motor skill/less time to devote for playing
2019-02-15 17:18
#87
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World ayyypepito 
You cant play btw 30 and 40 because you cant play video games 10hours a day with your (young) kids around.. They will start crying and rolling on the floor to take your sit, and every time you'll try to convince them that they are too young to play it. Or they wont trust you and be mad when you'll ask them to stop playing their games to make their homeworks or some other stuff to not become a zombie/vegetagle/nerd :p
2019-02-15 17:25
#88
Belgium wdnz 
I am 30 years old and I've never been a better play than I am now. Started playing at age 25. GE and Faceit 8
2019-02-15 17:27
But u have played so little time. If u start at age of 13 example and your best years is definitely not 30
2019-02-15 19:04
It's boring for them
2019-02-15 18:34
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