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f0rest greatest counter strike player ever
f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP 
dont @ me with neo cold s1mple niko even gtr f0rest is the GOAT
2019-02-16 16:48
Definitely
2019-02-16 16:49
+12134234234231111
2019-02-16 16:49
its not even close
2019-02-16 16:49
1.Forest 2. Neo 3. GTR
2019-02-16 16:49
#46
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India Noobdian1 
Yeah
2019-02-16 17:12
3. s1mple
2019-02-16 17:44
+1
2019-02-16 18:03
#113
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Denmark Derige 
+1
2019-02-16 22:32
+1
2019-02-17 00:28
#145
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Sweden StaffaN1 
+1
2019-02-17 01:14
#156
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United Kingdom Areashi 
+1
2019-02-17 02:04
#170
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Australia _Se7en 
+1
2019-02-17 11:30
+1
2019-02-17 12:57
#5
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Spain VIKTORAL 
NEO
2019-02-16 16:49
#6
Twistzz | 
Poland kamuk 
neo is pretty relevant nowadays
2019-02-16 16:50
now yes, but top#1 cs 1.6 player
2019-02-16 16:51
f0rest too, and even all greatest players choose the swede 1 f0rest 2 NEO
2019-02-16 16:53
m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdVvJpXz7wE are u sure? even f0rest said that neo top1 in 1.6
2019-02-16 16:56
You're a great comedian, of course he won't say that the best is himself LUL
2019-02-16 16:58
didnt he said that he is "the best of all time" didn't he?
2019-02-16 16:58
#30
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Finland Alko^ 
NEO has never been even top10 in csgo, its really obv that f0rest is the goat. f0rest has been consistent for 14 years, NEO's career ended 5 years ago
2019-02-16 17:01
#33
NEO | 
Poland HarePL 
holy shit its been 5 years already since VP won Katowice
2019-02-16 17:02
#36
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Finland Alko^ 
yeah and NEO wasnt even top20 at that time
2019-02-16 17:03
#69
Happy | 
Poland Millka 
2019-02-16 18:02
#88
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Finland Alko^ 
1.03 rating and thats his best ever in csgo
2019-02-16 21:37
#106
Happy | 
Poland Millka 
i totally agree with you f0rest >> neo in csgo, thats obvious but neo was number #17 in 2015 if you like it or not and his rating as igl/support these times was pretty decent ^.~
2019-02-16 22:05
So if neo never been a top10 player in cs:go, then he cannot be top1 1.6 player right? I don't get you bro. Whats the point of your comment;", when we are talking about 1.6 xd
2019-02-16 17:04
#107
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Finland Alko^ 
you are talking about who is the greatest of alltime
2019-02-16 22:13
are you stupid or it is just a joke? "now yes, but top#1 cs 1.6 player"
2019-02-16 23:50
#128
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Finland Alko^ 
f0rest is the goat /closed
2019-02-16 23:59
and here you go again
2019-02-17 00:01
#133
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Finland Alko^ 
prove me wrong
2019-02-17 00:33
are u autistic? neo and forest were close in 1.6 forest is top 8 csgo neo isnt even top 50 in csgo, the difference is fucking massive
2019-02-16 22:15
I'm autistic? I said that neo is top1 in cs 1.6 and you are another idiot who comes with "neo was bad in cs:go" WHO CARES about cs:go when it comes to cs 1.6 WTF, Wake up!
2019-02-16 23:48
This is about goat all time, not goat in 1.6, were talking about goat of all time, ur the only one on about 1.6
2019-02-17 04:01
u are really autistic, my discusion with windblows is about 1.6, thats you who comes with cs go
2019-02-17 10:22
#171
rallen | 
Brunei m!ch! 
cs 1.6: NEO > f0rest cs:go: f0rest > NEO overall: f0rest > NEO
2019-02-17 11:34
#59
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Spain VIKTORAL 
LMAO old vp was winning tournaments and destroying every single top tier team when whole finnish scene was gold nova 3
2019-02-16 17:26
#89
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Finland Alko^ 
NEO's best rating for a year is 1.03
2019-02-16 21:38
#111
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Spain VIKTORAL 
winning tournaments > having good rating
2019-02-16 22:29
#112
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Finland Alko^ 
But I thought we are talking about invidual performance?
2019-02-16 22:32
#114
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Spain VIKTORAL 
being bad winning tournaments pick one
2019-02-16 22:33
Snax > neo in csgo Pasha > neo in csgo byali > neo in csgo LUL
2019-02-16 22:15
#16
Twistzz | 
Poland kamuk 
even if thats the case it doesnt matter f0rest is still better overall
2019-02-16 16:53
Seems like you meant irrelevant?
2019-02-16 17:02
#38
Twistzz | 
Poland kamuk 
that was sarcasm
2019-02-16 17:05
Ok. I feel he is still relevant. Just not in a tier1 level.
2019-02-16 17:06
#45
Twistzz | 
Poland kamuk 
nah dude hes not relevant at all
2019-02-16 17:12
#7
f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP 
is over
2019-02-16 16:50
#57
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Spain VIKTORAL 
like mibr axaaxaxax
2019-02-16 17:25
rekt
2019-02-16 21:35
u mean "hahaha"? or do u laugh like "axaxaxax" irl aswell?
2019-02-17 01:37
#164
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Spain VIKTORAL 
ajjajajjaja
2019-02-17 11:16
#8
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
For sure.
2019-02-16 16:50
#10
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
f0rest greatest counter strike player ever
2019-02-16 16:51
I shook his hand once! Haven't washed it since.
2019-02-16 16:51
Don't even dare to masturbate with that hand.
2019-02-16 16:53
Or masturbate fiercely with that hand while watching f0rest highlight clips in infinite loop
2019-02-16 17:17
i heard thats how ppl get FPL-C
2019-02-17 01:39
#12
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Japan Cute_Loli 
Yeah id agree with that, longest active legend (apart from gob b but he was never renowned to being a legend) tbf id put coldzera in there because he was no.1 player 2 years in a row and thats pretty impressive
2019-02-16 16:52
so was get right. but just like cold it was just for those 2 years
2019-02-16 16:54
#22
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Japan Cute_Loli 
"just for those 2 years" i don't get what you mean, cold is still the best player in mibr, can still win tournaments, can still carry the difference between cold & get_right is huge
2019-02-16 16:56
i mean if u put cold there u have to put get right there. get right was number 1 2 years in a row and number 11 after. but also top 1.6 player which cold was not
2019-02-16 17:01
#47
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India Noobdian1 
Gtr 2012-14>Cold 2016-17
2019-02-16 17:15
#60
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
What has cold done? #1 #1 #10 What has GTR done? #2 #2 #2 #1 #1 #11 #18 He's still far from GTR's achievements. He still has time but don't go ahead of yourself. No one has stayed on top as long as GTR for now. What i see is that it took six years for GTR to start going down and cold is already going at his third.
2019-02-16 17:42
2009 top1 actually best player of 2009 bro
2019-02-16 21:35
#84
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
My bad :)
2019-02-16 21:35
And arguably top #1 2012 as well. Four top #1, two top #2, not bad
2019-02-17 00:42
#58
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
Wait what? GTR just for those two years? 2009 - #2 2010 - #2 2011 - #2 2012 - there was no ranking at all. 2013 - #1 2014 - #1 2015 - #11 2016 - #18 So the guy hasn't been in the top 20 for two years since HTLV ranking exists but he's been relevant for only two years? Get your fact straight he might not have played really good for the past two/three years but he's been on top way longer than anybody except f0rest. (wich has been ranked lower than him each time). As much as i love f0rest GTR is the CS GOAT atm. And that's how you see that all the retards with threads making fun of GTR and having no respect for him don't know shit about the competitive history of the game.
2019-02-16 17:28
sorry i phrased that very bad. i ment that you cant consider coldzera "up there" if you dont also include get right cause he has done the same for 2 years AND more. i said that cause even if he just had those 2 years he would still be equal to cold.
2019-02-16 17:58
#67
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
Ho ok i miss understood you then. No problemo :)
2019-02-16 17:58
nah i it was my bad after reading it again
2019-02-16 17:58
#75
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Iceland fatboislim 
yea when competition was shit, he was a great player. nowadays competition is high, and he's mediocre at best.
2019-02-16 21:10
That excuse is pretty retarted
2019-02-16 21:28
#78
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Iceland fatboislim 
and yet valid
2019-02-16 21:30
Why? You just need to know that without those "shitty years" according to you, today they wouldn't be any cs scene, and he and other retired or bar performance players were the motivation to the new players to play. So, what's the point of been such a dick and have that excuse to the past times are irrelevant? As I said, full retarded.
2019-02-16 21:34
#91
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Iceland fatboislim 
now i would give you and sensible arguement but the fact that youre an irrational fanboy mocking others, im not going to bother. keep your little bubble and have fun.
2019-02-16 21:39
#120
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Japan Cute_Loli 
+1 thats why i didnt even try to defend my opinions
2019-02-16 22:40
#77
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
That's kinda easy and lame to say. Schumacher was shit cause pilots were shits Pelé/maradona were shit because footballer weren't as good as today Micheal jordan was shit because basketball players weren't as good as they are today You can apply your shitty logic to everything. He is just no as good as he used to be. wich is understandable after more than 10 years in competition. Flusha, device, dupreeh, forest, shox and all the player you've fuckin praised during all these time were shit back then? everything that happenned before 2016 is irrelevant? You're stupid AF.
2019-02-16 21:31
#79
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Iceland fatboislim 
well not really gtr was the best because noone else had interest in being the best. nowadays there are much bigger money involved, so gtr has no chance anymore.
2019-02-16 21:32
#81
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
Yeah sure... Device, f0rest and other pros spent their life playing professionnaly just for fun not wanting to be the best... Done with you, you're just dumb at this point. Good evening.
2019-02-16 21:37
#87
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Iceland fatboislim 
go ahead and dodge all the facts and stay in your little bubble. have a nice evening.
2019-02-16 21:37
#96
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
I'm not dodging the facts you're making the dumbest statements possible. It's so damn stupid that i'm not sure if you're baiting or not. Players spending 8hours/day skipping school and jobs and going to every fuckin tournaments didn't try to be the best as during this time GTR made over 500k$ earnings without counting salaries? That's your argument. What the fuck is there to answer to such a dumb claim. Yes players were contracted to orgs getting small salaries and chasing prizepools hoping that they could live from it. Salaries may be bigger now but they still earned more than with a shitty job. And at that time they really needed to be the best to live from it... But yeah they weren't trying... If you're to stupid to acknowledge that all pro players try to win your dumb af, there's no point discussing with you.
2019-02-16 21:47
#102
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Iceland fatboislim 
oh my... gtr did make all that money because there was no competitin, little by little. if the competition level had no impact in his performances the why isnt he #1 now?
2019-02-16 21:49
are u braindead???? just becoz teams are better nowadays doesnt take away from back then. There isnt a single competition in which older players > newer players, newer players are faster, stronger, quicker, smarter, they learned off of older players. Older players dont have advantages newer players had, so compare older players in their context with newer players in their context, dont directly compare them without context
2019-02-16 22:19
so where was cold when competition was shit? where was fallen olof fnatic where were they xD kid?
2019-02-16 21:37
#93
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Iceland fatboislim 
they were playing other games. and when the money hit cs, they came in. if i remember right they were playing crossfire.
2019-02-16 21:41
but why does he suck now?
2019-02-16 21:42
#97
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Iceland fatboislim 
i never said gtr sucks, i just said he is mediocre at best.
2019-02-16 21:45
atm but coldzrea is shit now after 3 years and gtr is on top since like 2009 so you can compare them only in csgo but overall cold is not even near
2019-02-16 21:46
#173
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Iceland fatboislim 
yea its hard to stay on top because the competition is so good. thats the only reason gtr was on top because there wasnt good competition.
2019-02-17 11:36
yea its hard to stay on top because the competition is so good. thats the only reason cold was on top because there wasnt good competition. 2016-2017 when all teams had slump era of uncertianity no fnatic no vp no franchies no one
2019-02-17 12:49
#180
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Iceland fatboislim 
exactly, that's actually true.
2019-02-17 13:25
after 3 years?
2019-02-16 21:42
#103
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Iceland fatboislim 
after 3 years of what?
2019-02-16 21:50
being on top
2019-02-17 10:49
#172
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Iceland fatboislim 
being on top of what? wtf are you talking about?
2019-02-17 11:34
did you smoke something or what? or just b8ting
2019-02-17 12:50
what are you saying bro, cold has been playing csgo since 2013 maybe even earlier liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Coldzera/Re..
2019-02-17 01:01
#140
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Iceland fatboislim 
so what?
2019-02-17 01:03
so that means #93 is invalid
2019-02-17 01:06
#165
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Iceland fatboislim 
not really, since they only had a chance to play small inside brazil events. when the money hit cs then they got to international scene. and they were playing crossfire too so... so if there wasnt real money in cs, get right or forest might still be one of the best players. which sounds kinda sad...
2019-02-17 11:20
Zeus man
2019-02-16 22:37
#13
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Norway rogueplayer 
definitely better than GTR
2019-02-16 16:52
#61
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
Even tho f0rest is my fav player you're wrong. He is now for sure but except for those two last year GTR has always been ahead of him and i've been around since 2002. #58
2019-02-16 17:38
#99
World hkzz 
Lol GTR entered the scene in 2007. By that time f0rest had been hauling ass for years
2019-02-16 21:46
#104
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
I know exactly when they both started playing since i've been playing competitively from 2002 to 2009. Yet during the time they were both playing GTR has always been ranked ahead forest 2016 being the only exception. I'm a fan of f0rest so i don't have any problem with people saying he's the goat. thing is people dimishing GTR's achievements piss me off.
2019-02-16 21:51
So you think gtr was better than f0rest in 1.6?
2019-02-17 10:53
#17
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World fw5151 
Neo overrated
2019-02-16 16:54
#48
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India Noobdian1 
Yeah
2019-02-16 17:15
#18
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Finland Alko^ 
f0rest GOAT
2019-02-16 16:54
+111
2019-02-16 16:55
Hm, what about markeloff? Maybe not so much in CS GO, but 1.6 he was a pretty nutty AWPer.
2019-02-16 16:57
#32
Slovakia pgb1 
Markeloffs one year was 100x better like simples career ever will be. MarkelON god
2019-02-16 17:01
All I have to say is, +1
2019-02-16 17:07
in cs 1.6 the best player was neo, but combining players from 1.6 and csgo the best player is imo get_right. Neo is still good in csgo he never was the most important part of vp in, more impact players in csgo was pasha and snax with byali. Neo with taz was super supports and igls. f0rest is great now but get_right is still better looking at the every years of csgo. 2013-2016 get_right 2017-2018 f0rest and this year begins for f0rest well
2019-02-16 16:57
#28
Slovakia pgb1 
Gtr was always a baiter like coldzera and simple bots. Forest is by far the best ever
2019-02-16 17:00
#49
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India Noobdian1 
Who did he bait?
2019-02-16 17:16
#73
Slovakia pgb1 
He was a lurker all the time the last man standing so you have aleays good stats
2019-02-16 18:07
#29
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Ukraine DNNNS 
hahahha lmao how is 2016 GTR > 2016 f0rest?
2019-02-16 17:00
#50
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India Noobdian1 
Ikr😂
2019-02-16 17:16
#65
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
well 2016 is the last year they've both been in the top20 anad the first time f0rest was above GTR. GTR 2010 - 2016 : #2 #2 #1 #1 #11 #18 f0rest 2010 - 2016 : #6 #5 #2 #7 #16 #7
2019-02-16 17:49
#52
jOELZ | 
Faroe Islands staxus 
f0rest #7 2016
2019-02-16 17:17
#27
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Israel unsolid 
He is not even top 8
2019-02-16 16:59
#51
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India Noobdian1 
Wot??
2019-02-16 17:17
#56
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Israel unsolid 
I pushed it but not even top 5*
2019-02-16 17:23
#35
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Australia niaouli1998 
Get Right is my idol, but damn it F0rest is the fucking goat accross all CS since he touched that game Neo and GTR are his brothers, and S1mple, Cold and Device are the childrens of this generation, this ends here
2019-02-16 17:03
#53
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India Noobdian1 
Childrens??
2019-02-16 17:17
#39
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Taiwan SCVready 
Absolutely yes!
2019-02-16 17:06
#41
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United Kingdom wellhyper 
Pretty sure ronaldo is better at CS than f0rest is at football, so he can't be the GOAT.
2019-02-16 17:07
Actually no. F0rest is the GOAT
2019-02-16 17:18
iirc f0rest played football in high school or something, i might be wrong though
2019-02-17 00:51
He is literal trash
2019-02-16 17:09
f0rest, the greatest cs player of all time
2019-02-16 17:11
#62
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Switzerland Tang1 
Obviously, no one is even close at this point imo.
2019-02-16 17:38
#63
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Turkey emre1s 
#1- f0rp #2- nij0 #3- totte
2019-02-16 17:41
#71
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Austria db42 
goat yes not best in csgo though, but its ok, being 30 and still having +30 in a bo3 in major is ok result
2019-02-16 18:04
Yes but when s1mple is 30+ hes LIKE WOAH MAN WOAH IMPRESSIVE WOAH BEST WOAH
2019-02-16 22:34
neo still best in 1.6 alongside f0rp. But yeah if u take CS+CSGO f0rest is best
2019-02-16 18:06
Pointless talking about it now forest is ofc the goat at the moment but he is 30 and nearing the end of career S1mple is only 21 and I can definitely think there’s a decent chance of him becoming the goat later on in his career
2019-02-16 18:22
#100
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Brazil Fallenzera 
But s1mple nobody on cs1.6 When people talk about counter strike in future, forest will be the first name to mention
2019-02-16 21:47
It is true S1mple was a kid then but there’s no reason that S1mple couldn’t dominate for years after forest retires possibly even on another counter strike although i highly doubt it would be released not for some years yet
2019-02-17 00:25
#86
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Sweden Fimpo 
if you count cs 1.6 and csgo togher yes if just csgo then you kinda wrong - f0rest fanboy
2019-02-16 21:37
f0rest = overrated washed-up noob /CLOSE
2019-02-16 21:39
Printf("Yes");
2019-02-16 21:41
+1
2019-02-16 21:48
#105
Romania jDT 
you know...when you are playing with weaker colleagues you become like them. this is was the problem of neo...he never had the chance to play with guys from north countries... but in terms of thinking, my friend, neo it s much above everyone. so no, is not
2019-02-16 21:54
+1 f0rest is the GOAT
2019-02-16 22:33
#1 s1mple #2 everyone else
2019-02-16 22:35
#119
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
+1
2019-02-16 22:37
AGREED
2019-02-16 22:42
Nobody wrote Zeus lol Man won all 4 of biggest events in sequence in 1.6 with Navi squad 1(Zeus, Edward,markelloff,starix,ceh9) Became 2 time finalist of major and top2 +(even top1 for a week) + win some top tier events with new Navi squad again (Zeus,Edward, Guardian,Flamie,Seized) Got kicked from a team Became IGL of absolutely different squad Gambit Won 2 t2 events + major with them + top3 placing at rankings(mou,hobbit,Adren,Dosia,Zeus) Return to Navi again and won t1 tournaments + final of major with new Navi squad(electronic,s1mple,flamie,Zeus,Edward) Under Zeus lead 10 different players became finalist of majors at least and was at least top3 in teams rankings. He is 4 time major to finalist who made it with 3 different squads and 2 different cores. Name at least any IGL who swap 2 players and make it to the final again, i think nobody.
2019-02-16 22:49
1.6 its neo and overall forest no doubt
2019-02-16 23:01
yes /close
2019-02-16 23:02
he is the best ..as
2019-02-16 23:48
+1 ofc
2019-02-17 00:08
No doubt he has insane natural talent. Nobody has really come close to the level of sustained top level play he has, being a top level player for nearly 15 years who is still good and not washed up, never really even gone through a big slump. shox is like him as well, but shox needs to be at the top of the game for another 3-4 years to achieve what f0rest has.
2019-02-17 00:46
f0rest or GTR , GTR is the highest rated player in 1.6 with 1.26 rating with like 600+ maps at big events GTR would have been #1 of all time in 1.6 if he had some more years but then CSGO come and he got #1 2 years in a row But i would probably say f0rest is GOAT in CS with GTR close behind neo was good in 1.6 and trash in CSGO so there is no world where have a reason to be GOAT for all CS
2019-02-17 00:47
#149
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New Zealand flux1 
gtr might not have actually it all came down to how stubborn the Swedish 1.6 was maybe if the scene was more great full for young talent and the veterans werent so egotistical the defiantly gtr wouldve crushed it like no competition maybe have won more major series aswell but talking about the past is useless at this point when the go pro scene is flourishing
2019-02-17 01:31
I have to bad english to understand
2019-02-17 01:50
in whole cs - yes in csgo - no.
2019-02-17 00:52
#146
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Finland Alko^ 
the whole cs is more respectful than being a goat of csgo alone
2019-02-17 01:21
#142
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Sweden StaffaN1 
ye
2019-02-17 01:09
#143
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Portugal lvr1 
Is this even a discussion?
2019-02-17 01:13
#144
ZywOo | 
Portugal truzzt 
Definitely the ONLY pro with such age and history, performing at such a high level, nothing but respect for the legend he is...
2019-02-17 01:14
#147
rain | 
New Zealand flux1 
omg why are these retards saying hes igl support he cant get a higher rating is total bs both forest and neo had the same fucking roles in their teams forest had to support gtr who was the star player early on neo had to as well both igled and still igl but the matter of the fact is neo is inconsistent regardless of his role he was the lowest rated player in vp and forest was keeping up with the youngsters like rez s1mple device niko cold and others he was able to out aim and duel them while neo even when set up fell short no hate both players are legends no matter what a sweaty nerd says all time great 1.6 source ang go forest 1.6 great neo and csgo great is still a battle and forest is defiantly competing in that battle and neo isnt
2019-02-17 01:26
#148
NEO | 
Yugoslavia sotomonte 
In my opinion Neo, Get_right and edward are even more relevant. Just have a look at their achievements in cs and csgo.
2019-02-17 01:28
f0rest won more than both edward and neo and he have been WAY better than them in CSGO won more and better stats and much better HLTV top 20 neo in 1.6 won more majors thats why many people say he is GOAT in 1.6 but overall f0rest still won more events
2019-02-17 01:43
#153
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Austria iVulkaN 
1.6 was pretty even between those 2 BUT in csgo Neo has never been too top 20 in CSGO only #17 in 2015 f0rest #2('13), #7('14), #16('15), #7('16)
2019-02-17 01:48
you had your own opnion or just listen streamers ?
2019-02-17 02:03
#157
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India pongaman1 
69/8
2019-02-17 02:23
GTR is.
2019-02-17 04:04
#163
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China LewsTherin 
markeloff
2019-02-17 10:54
#168
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
kennyS of 1.6, had a short lived peak and was only good with the AWP. Extremely overrated.
2019-02-17 11:21
#166
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
THE BESTEST
2019-02-17 11:19
#167
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
NEO>f0rest cry is free
2019-02-17 11:21
#174
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Sweden Cruxor 
In 1.6 yes. In CSGO not even close? Neo has a rating of 0.85 while f0rest rating is 1.09 over the last 3 months. Neos rating of all time is 0.98 while f0rest is 1.13. F0rest top 20 in CSGO: 2013 #2, 2014 #7, 2015 #16, 2016 #7. Neo top 20 in CSGO: 2015 #17. While Neo was slightly better than f0rest in 1.6, f0rest is miles ahead of Neo in CSGO. Which means that f0rest is much better overall. /close
2019-02-17 11:37
#175
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
NEO far more diverse as a player in terms of what roles he can fill. If we're talking about raw skill alone then s1mple and NiKo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>f0rest
2019-02-17 11:45
#176
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Sweden Cruxor 
Dude no one is debating that s1mple and Niko are better than f0rest, everyone knows that. It is just that f0rest has been playing professionally CS since 2005, that's 14 fucking years and still topfrags for nip, that's pretty impressive and that's why he is the GOAT.
2019-02-17 11:50
Man this is always up to debate, first we gotta set the ground rules of "The best" Is it beeing able to deliver in high-profile games over a long period of time? Like f0rest and Neo? Is it beeing so good that the bar was raised for years to come for performing like a god during a certain amount of time? Like GeT_RiGhT and Shox? Is it beeing able to hard carry (Argubly shit-tier) players into deep runs of tournaments and many final victories? Like S1mple? There is probably way more factors than above, this is just scratching the surface of the debate. But, first we gotta agree on what the best truly is.
2019-02-17 11:27
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