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top 20 rn(complete rosters only)
kennyS | 
Sweden captaingurgo 
1. astralis 2. Liquid 3. FaZe 4. NaVi 5. Mibr 6. NRG 7. NRG 8. ENCE 9. NiP 10. Renegades 11. BiG 12. G2 13. Vitality 14. Cloud9 15. Fnatic 16. Avangar 17. Ghost 18. North 19. Hellraisers 20. Valiance
2019-02-17 01:53
6. NRG 7. NRG
2019-02-17 01:54
K cool
2019-02-17 02:32
#48
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United States Trump2020KAG 
thats how good they are...in top 10 twice
2019-02-17 15:15
6. NRG 7. NRG
2019-02-17 01:54
K cool
2019-02-17 02:32
Yea I just wanted to be an ass
2019-02-17 03:05
Mouz? Mibr havent played for months...
2019-02-17 01:56
mouz have 3 players
2019-02-17 01:57
No
2019-02-17 01:58
so how many they got?
2019-02-17 01:58
5
2019-02-17 01:58
prove it...
2019-02-17 01:58
No
2019-02-17 02:00
these answers... seems like you are a girl
2019-02-17 02:01
No
2019-02-17 02:01
3
2019-02-17 02:03
5
2019-02-17 02:03
#39
nat | 
Turkey us_vincere 
5
2019-02-17 09:16
6
2019-02-17 09:21
xseven
2019-02-17 16:28
#4
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United Kingdom Res0 
> nrg twice > Faze 3rd > Renegades above Big > G2 above Zywoo + friends > Navi above MIBR Pretty good list but pls explain ^
2019-02-17 01:56
i think navi above mibr is a okay but g2 above zywoo + friends wth
2019-02-17 01:58
#15
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Finland dev2ce 
lmao NAVI is certainly about miBR
2019-02-17 02:00
#25
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Australia t0rrent 
Big never beat this renegades lineup
2019-02-17 02:23
1. Yeah lmao 2. Do you have anyone else above them? 3. This lineup has yet to prove itself 4. Zywootality has done nothing but farm on mixed nobodies. 5. MIBR has 2 new players. You can't assume they'll be the same team they were in 2017 just because they have the same people
2019-02-17 02:29
ofc that navi is better than mibr lmao...
2019-02-17 15:09
#11
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Brazil kaiknux 
G2 above Vitality? No
2019-02-17 01:59
#26
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Norway CheNaLii 
G2 won 2-0 over Vitality G2>Vitality
2019-02-17 02:28
vitality 3-1 g2 2-2 OMEGALUL
2019-02-17 15:17
even if c9 did lose to vici and tyloo. They did beat BIG and Faze recently so should be higher. That or BIG should be much lower
2019-02-17 01:59
#14
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Finland dev2ce 
6. NRG 7. NRG
2019-02-17 02:00
K cool
2019-02-17 02:31
Ence is overrated everywhere I swear
2019-02-17 02:02
#20
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Nope
2019-02-17 02:03
ez4ence
2019-02-17 02:04
one lucky win and u think renegades is better? lmao
2019-02-17 02:42
since when is ence better than renegades, cmon use ur peanut
2019-02-17 09:09
since 10 months bby
2019-02-17 14:39
based on what
2019-02-17 15:08
based on results
2019-02-17 15:08
Renegades and Ence have never met so to be fair I dont have much basis, but they both have been performing around the same since ence have broken into the tier 2 scene. I mean yes there is the argument that eu mdl is hard compared to na but Ence being stuck there shows that they arent that good. Honestly the only thing we have to base of directly is the major, you can look at other results but either way you are gonna be biased to Ence im gonna be biased to Renegades. Hopefully they cross paths in the next stage!
2019-02-17 15:14
Starseries season 6 Renegades bummed out in groups and ence went and win the tournament. Ence won another international lan after that. What renegades have won or even be top4 outside of asia? NOTHING
2019-02-17 15:15
I think we can both agree Season 6 of star series was not as a high tier of normal still a good tournie though. Renegades made playoffs, losing to Optic which obviously Ence beat but we are talking different rosters from that event to what Renegades beat Ence with. Ence other than that have only had their only other notable first place at a dreamhack event, and then a few smaller events. Renegades however attend more events with tier 1 teams and have shown that they can compete with them and with this roster, they have been showing more and more consistency and they have not hit their skill ceiling. I mean I can go back to their old roster but too me personally grat and liazz and beyond only really matter now! Arguably Renegades have played higher tier events and getting to playoffs have been a good achievement. But based on these teams facing Renegades had them handled pretty good, Ence's playstyle really suits how Renegades play and maybe next time they meet Ence may be able to adapt to that but for me for now Renegades have Ence's number
2019-02-17 15:27
#19
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Finland Vkims 
1. Atm ghost is not that high 2. Avangar and hellraisers way too low 3. Vitality is better than G2
2019-02-17 02:03
1. Beat FaZe twice 2. HR have been completely absent in the last 3 months besides the plg slam where they got owned by g2. Maybe I put avangar a bit too low idk you might be right 3. No
2019-02-17 02:31
#32
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
1. Bo1 2. So when mibr is absent, its ok. But when Hr is absent(which they havent been,they have been playing online games) you put them too low. Where is your logic? 3. G2 cant even qualify to real major
2019-02-17 02:40
They're both absent hence low ranking? Esl put MIBR as the number 3 team rn... HR and MIBR have been about equally as active. One of them beat astralis in a bo3, the other lost to G2-0
2019-02-17 02:59
#24
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India pongaman1 
0/1
2019-02-17 02:19
Dont see how G2 is better than vitality besides h2h Ghost isnt top 20 BIG > renegades for sure BIG > NiP
2019-02-17 09:13
2 NRG.......
2019-02-17 09:14
#44
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Turkey Thunderball 
terrible list
2019-02-17 15:09
#46
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. NaVi 4. FaZe 5. MiBR 6. NRG 7. Ence 8. BiG 9. C9 10. NiP 11. North 12. Vitality 13. Fnatic 14. Renegades 15. G2 Ghost overrated Renegades overrated G2 overrated
2019-02-17 15:13
Ence are overrated for sure
2019-02-17 15:31
#50
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United States Trump2020KAG 
switch liquid and astralis and nrg is top 5
2019-02-17 15:15
valiance kek
2019-02-17 15:16
#55
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Other Gronk22 
Valiance ZULUL.
2019-02-17 15:31
Vp where?
2019-02-17 15:33
#57
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Brazil knockera 
furia
2019-02-17 15:35
#59
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Lithuania Sealll 
20. Winstrike
2019-02-17 16:29
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