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Astralis without the Smoke Radar Bug.
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Switzerland sovereiign 
I'm actually looking forward to seeing how they play now. It's clear they learned how to exploit this bug better than any team and if you watch them they were using it constantly. Do you guys think this could change things and effect their playstyle or do you think it's a none issue? I'm leaning more towards it could have a negative effect but I also respect them as a team and think they will still be extremely strong.
2019-02-17 05:00
#1
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Finland dev2ce 
No.
2019-02-17 05:02
#2
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Switzerland sovereiign 
You don't think it will have any effect at all? Do you deny they were using the bug a lot?
2019-02-17 05:04
#4
Brille | 
Denmark siegheil 
Every team were using it alot?
2019-02-17 05:06
#5
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Switzerland sovereiign 
I don't know if this is true. Perhaps it is, but from what I've seen Astralis mastered it better than anyone.
2019-02-17 05:06
#6
Brille | 
Denmark siegheil 
well the bug is that you can see people on the minimap before the smokes fully faded. Dont tell me that not all players from the pro scene knows that.
2019-02-17 05:10
#17
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Switzerland sovereiign 
I know what the bug is; but, my point is; Astralis seemed to learn how to use it better than others. I feel like they focused on it and built strats around using it and I don't know that others teams did this.
2019-02-17 05:28
#19
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Indonesia linekerrr 
Nah, gla1ve & xyp was shooting through newly bloomed smokes as well. <15 s *as well
2019-02-17 06:12
#34
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Switzerland sovereiign 
you might be right. Looking forward to seeing them play without it.
2019-02-17 06:36
Name checks out
2019-02-17 05:03
#7
World causy 
I think it's gonna affect their mentality more than their play style. Now pressure is on them.
2019-02-17 05:16
#14
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Switzerland sovereiign 
That's an interesting point I had not considered. I can see a scenario where this could be true. Good comment!
2019-02-17 05:26
#15
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Brazil llskll 
That's make sense
2019-02-17 05:27
especially now that liquid has drawn blood with their new roster
2019-02-17 08:09
#8
STYKO | 
Brazil STYKinho 
out in groups
2019-02-17 05:17
#10
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Switzerland sovereiign 
That would be nuts.
2019-02-17 05:22
#12
STYKO | 
Brazil STYKinho 
nah i'm kidding but i think it will have quite a big effect when you see how many smoke kills they are always getting. but still, they are one of the most well organized and disciplined teams, so they will still do well. although they are all still quite skilled individually i think we'll see them getting out-aimed a lot more this time around. at least i hope so !
2019-02-17 05:25
#30
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Switzerland sovereiign 
+1
2019-02-17 06:35
Even without the bug, they are incredibly good. Nothing will change imo
2019-02-17 05:17
#11
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Switzerland sovereiign 
You could be right.
2019-02-17 05:22
#31
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Czech Republic Trolic18 
I think they will do good but they will have more close games. They would have to try hard more.
2019-02-17 06:35
I actually think they will not win the major, but still gonna be relevant
2019-02-17 05:25
#29
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Switzerland sovereiign 
who do you think will win? Liquid?
2019-02-17 06:34
Idk Liquid, Navi even Faze can surprise and win it
2019-02-17 06:58
#32
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Czech Republic Trolic18 
+1
2019-02-17 06:36
0-3 lul
2019-02-17 05:27
#28
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Switzerland sovereiign 
it definitely would be funny lol
2019-02-17 06:34
They will still be great but some the clutches won't be going their way as much, that radar bug did save them a few times
2019-02-17 05:42
#27
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Switzerland sovereiign 
+1 though I really feel like they learned how to use the bug better than anyone. I cant wait to see them play.
2019-02-17 06:33
#20
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Vietnam ponmemes 
ASTRALIS OVERRATED EleGiggle BUG UPDATED EleGiggle LONG HAVE WE WAITED EleGiggle ASTRALIS ELIMINATED EleGiggle
2019-02-17 06:08
#26
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Switzerland sovereiign 
meme's are fun
2019-02-17 06:32
They will still be top one but not nearly as dominant imo
2019-02-17 06:09
#25
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Switzerland sovereiign 
I'm mostly leaning towards this perspective. They are extremely good and will most likely adapt.
2019-02-17 06:32
Yea the only game i rremeber where the smokes literally won them the game was against mibr
2019-02-17 17:40
+1 Seeing good teams like fnatic and c9 struggling in the challengers stage showed us how bad they play without tricks, that's why the glorious Chinese scene beat them. While the "good teams" were training smoke kills, Chinese players were acquiring skill
2019-02-17 06:11
#24
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Switzerland sovereiign 
You could be right. PS. I love your name.
2019-02-17 06:31
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Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
I don't think fnatic and c9 lost cuz of the smoke fix though, they were just not good enough in general and the chinese teams hit their shots in those maps
2019-02-17 08:06
#23
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Portugal RKO23 
aug is op as fuck, so in ct they'll use aug. and if they manage to control the ssg, cuz they have magisk as a teammate which knows how to play with it, they'll somehow figure out something, is not like the end of the world, this game is a game of skill and teamwork, not about a tiny bs thing like that will stop people getting better.
2019-02-17 06:15
1st - they will have pressure on them, because everybody now knows that Astralis era - bug era 2nd - they will play worse, probably again to semifinals chokers.
2019-02-17 06:36
#35
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Switzerland sovereiign 
We'll see! I can't wait!
2019-02-17 06:37
+111
2019-02-17 06:39
They will win major, face it.
2019-02-17 06:39
no chances, without bug they won't
2019-02-17 06:40
They will and when they do, cry is free. They obly won couples of rounds with that bug. Maybe the games will be closer, but they will still win.
2019-02-17 17:37
let'see, my bet they won't get to finals 90%
2019-02-17 18:02
like BIG they used that bug on PGL, and went to semifinals, then they couldn't even go out of groups!
2019-02-17 06:42
on eleague boston
2019-02-17 06:42
#42
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United States camdavis9 
This bug was a non-factor and not even a talking point throughout Astralis's top 1 reign and all of the sudden everyone is losing hair over it. Astralis are still the heavy favorites to win
2019-02-17 06:59
#43
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Switzerland sovereiign 
Maybe you haven't noticed but they were clearly using it a lot. People were even accusing them of cheating because of it.
2019-02-17 07:00
that smoke kills made glaive hit top 20 imo. still they will be a relevant team one thing they will lose is their great inferno b defense which was getting 5-6 smoke kills every game.
2019-02-17 07:12
Even without the bug they're still a super strong team. If it has any effect on them it'll be minor.
2019-02-17 07:31
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