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Fnatic fix (1)
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India stiwa5k 
-xizt +karrigan Karrigan is way better of an IGL than xizt. Also more technically skilled. Can get more frags than xizt any day of the week. What y'all think? Is there a way to fix this messed up lineup? Still cant belive they let lekr0 and golden leave
2019-02-17 10:19
+1
2019-02-17 10:20
#2
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United States Jamila 
xizt isn't the problem They don't have firepower
2019-02-17 10:21
#5
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India stiwa5k 
Who should replace who then?
2019-02-17 10:24
#71
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Belarus f1nesse 
they should make team around twist and krimz
2019-02-17 12:27
+1 they are a mess. JW is the main problem. He thinks he can just pick up the AWP when he feels like it. Hes not good enough to play rifler and hes not even a top AWPer anymore. Krimz is left with Tier 2 players... Brollan has potential but thats all it is right now
2019-02-17 11:48
krimz should've gone to faze...
2019-02-17 12:06
+1
2019-02-17 12:09
#122
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African Union nm1 
as much as i love JW i think that what they should have done was instead of flusha you bench JW and then you have twist who can awp afaik,have enough fire power with krimz flusha and brollan
2019-02-17 16:50
no flusha was by far the biggest disappointment in the draken roster
2019-02-17 18:47
#3
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France Menfa2 
Floosha plz cum beck
2019-02-17 10:21
#4
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 10:23
+1
2019-02-17 11:27
why it didn't work before and wont work again. He knows these idiots dont want to change their ways
2019-02-17 11:48
#53
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France Menfa2 
Look JW (3 years contract) Krimz (3 years contract) Flusha Golden Brollan That can be a good team not even close to Astralis or old Fnatic but they can do something
2019-02-17 12:06
I still don't understand why Flusha left... Now they don't have any magic left...
2019-02-17 12:10
??? what don't you understand fnatic was dogshit regardless of him being on the team or not
2019-02-17 18:34
What are you talking about?!? They were rated eighth in august of 2018, that's not half bad!
2019-02-17 19:20
#64
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Bosnia and Herzegovina happYiiiNesS 
twist>jw
2019-02-17 12:14
twist is the most consistent player on fnatic
2019-02-17 18:22
Or atleast send his old hacks
2019-02-17 12:25
-xizt +Valde -jw + karrigan
2019-02-17 10:26
#10
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India stiwa5k 
I are loving thats
2019-02-17 10:29
Yes. I've also thought of that, making a Swedish-Danish superteam.
2019-02-17 10:37
I have watched karrigan quite a bit and I think he is way overrated, he makes many mistakes and nearly never performs, not even for tear 2 ENVY
2019-02-17 11:02
He has luckily always had a good team. So, they'll frag on his behalf. Karrigan is overrated. He gets some clutches and stuff at times no doubt, but, he is not the best IGL.
2019-02-17 11:31
+1
2019-02-17 12:23
sunny instand of Karrigan and you have a REALLY sick lineup
2019-02-17 14:08
#131
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United States TheReelMVP 
Karrigan overrated
2019-02-17 17:33
#8
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Poland SebaRost 
-JW +Plopski/f0rest/REZ
2019-02-17 10:28
#9
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India stiwa5k 
None of the nip players would leave unless fnatic get rid of xizt i believe.
2019-02-17 10:28
#32
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Poland SebaRost 
U believe wrong. Xizt isnt the problem. JW is.
2019-02-17 11:42
#37
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Sweden Zaser5 
He signed for 3 more years
2019-02-17 11:51
#39
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Poland SebaRost 
They can bench him anyway.
2019-02-17 11:52
#62
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Germany Bestgerman69 
as if the org wouldve thought about benching jw when they let him sign 3y contract lul
2019-02-17 12:11
#63
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Poland SebaRost 
I mean, they for sure expected better result on major from this lineup.
2019-02-17 12:11
#164
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Sweden Zaser5 
meh I don't think so
2019-02-17 21:57
#165
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Poland SebaRost 
U have TOP 6 team in the world and u expect them to do 1-3 in Qualifier?
2019-02-17 21:58
#52
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India stiwa5k 
He's so inconsistent
2019-02-17 12:04
#55
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Poland SebaRost 
Inconsisten in what? Fragging? Still better than JW.
2019-02-17 12:06
#56
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India stiwa5k 
I meant jw, he's so inconsistent
2019-02-17 12:07
#57
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Poland SebaRost 
Excatly, thats what im talking about.
2019-02-17 12:08
bring back golden
2019-02-17 10:32
#12
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
+1
2019-02-17 10:32
#15
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Austria zeroflo 
and way more practice, i think its the biggest problem
2019-02-17 10:34
#16
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Sweden v1king 
i don't understand why they replaced him almost as soon as they won Katowice 2018.. some really fubar decisions... i don't get it really..
2019-02-17 10:34
+1
2019-02-17 10:36
#50
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 12:03
#51
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Jordan xrealx369 
+200
2019-02-17 12:04
#96
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Russia X@NjK 
+10000000
2019-02-17 13:53
#13
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Sweden deadvein 
xizt ruined NiP and now fnatic, omegalul. So glad that he got kicked from NiP
2019-02-17 10:34
#23
Xyp9x | 
Sweden v1king 
ruined.. he is just in bad shape, so he should back out like Friberg did. He is neither a tier 1 player anymore..
2019-02-17 11:00
#49
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 12:03
#14
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United States StevenJo 
karrigan joined mouz
2019-02-17 10:34
He didn't.
2019-02-17 10:36
#19
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Russia mnight 
fnatic beat g2 2-0 a couple of months before. just so you know
2019-02-17 10:37
Yeah, and that is why I am soo confused, 2 months earlier they are putting up good numbers against Astralis and even beating Liquid. Now they went to pure shit.
2019-02-17 10:38
#26
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Russia mnight 
NY holidays. They will pickup their form eventually imo. And karrigan is a nice guy but he has to prove himself now - maybe take on a captain role in a t3 team.
2019-02-17 11:27
also MAD tilted because plg ibp and the major had delays
2019-02-17 17:40
#48
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India stiwa5k 
I know but now they're lacking structure in their game. Dont know what went wrong
2019-02-17 12:02
lekro olof krimz golden flusha if you want a chance
2019-02-17 10:41
#47
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India stiwa5k 
So much more like the iem katowice 2018 winning lineup. No way they're gonna bring in these
2019-02-17 12:01
karrigan? Xa xa xa. It's the worst move unless you somehow put Zeus in it. They need someone who can frag, not the same BOT.
2019-02-17 11:03
#46
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India stiwa5k 
Like who tho? X6tence galaxy bois or?
2019-02-17 12:00
Someone from Red Reserve maybe.
2019-02-17 12:38
Swedish teams just recycle the same washed up players over and over again. That said karrigan is not a solution and I don't want more multi-national teams. If they wanna keep recycle they need to get olof back into the Swedish scene to begin with, else there are less known options. JW is pretty much done but just signed a 3 year contract.
2019-02-17 11:30
#74
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India stiwa5k 
+1 but olof aint leaving faze anytime soon tho
2019-02-17 12:52
karrigan??? that has to be a b8 :)
2019-02-17 11:30
#44
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India stiwa5k 
Noo b8 m8, fo real he better than xizt
2019-02-17 11:59
There is no way to fix fnatic without removing legends. Same for NiP. People who have bin around for years won't get better whereas young players will improve after a few lans.
2019-02-17 11:32
#43
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India stiwa5k 
So true. But this means no way to resurrect the legend organisations of the game?
2019-02-17 11:59
You know swedish and Danish are NOT the same
2019-02-17 11:45
#42
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India stiwa5k 
But they're known to play together. Like in the heroid mix. Also they can speak english and see hows everything going
2019-02-17 11:58
How is friberg playing with Heroic then?
2019-02-17 12:10
#66
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Sweden Ch3eSy 
It is not the same, but you can get what the other is saying. It is much more "normal" mix than Tyloo squad
2019-02-17 12:17
What about -Xizt +MODDII ?
2019-02-17 11:48
#41
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India stiwa5k 
Moddii has previously played for fnatic too. But it's just my personal preference I'd get karrigan over him
2019-02-17 11:57
karrigan did too, am I right?
2019-02-17 13:41
#94
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India stiwa5k 
Yes
2019-02-17 13:52
#38
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Bosnia and Herzegovina ERMIN91 
Just KRIMZ is good, other 4 not
2019-02-17 11:52
#40
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 11:57
brollan is really good and has so much potential, if this team want to rebuild something I would keep these 2 and build around them
2019-02-17 14:06
#45
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Brazil Boldro1965 
>fix >karrigan The guy cant aim against tier 3 NA. Not even Envy needs him.
2019-02-17 12:00
#61
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Portugal Dimigue 
the problem started when they kicked flusha
2019-02-17 12:10
#78
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 12:53
#65
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Sweden Nuggeet 
Fnatic wont change lineup
2019-02-17 12:15
#79
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India stiwa5k 
They nees to? Right?
2019-02-17 12:54
#82
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Sweden Nuggeet 
No, they cant change lineup after every bad tourney.
2019-02-17 13:01
#83
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India stiwa5k 
I think lack of practice but why wouldn't they practice well before the challengers stage are they dumb?
2019-02-17 13:04
#86
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Sweden Nuggeet 
Prob just an off tourney
2019-02-17 13:06
was probably the case but the fact that their off tourney was literally the most important of the year REALLY sucks
2019-02-17 14:07
#112
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Sweden Nuggeet 
Yeee...
2019-02-17 14:14
+ chrisJ + scream -jw -xizt
2019-02-17 12:20
#77
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India stiwa5k 
Can work, huge potential
2019-02-17 12:53
#68
NiKo | 
Sweden exorzy 
Youu know Fnatic is an swedish team ;)
2019-02-17 12:20
#76
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India stiwa5k 
So hampus? Pronax? Friberg?
2019-02-17 12:53
#90
NiKo | 
Sweden exorzy 
They are all swedish or what do you mean?
2019-02-17 13:39
#95
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India stiwa5k 
Who should replace xizt among them haha
2019-02-17 13:53
they speak english perfectly tho so it doesnt matter they can always pick up nonswe player
2019-02-17 13:05
-jw +flusha flusha igl problem solved
2019-02-17 12:28
#75
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India stiwa5k 
He just signed a 3 year contract, can be benched tho
2019-02-17 12:52
#80
World Jeza 
Xizt is absolutely part of the problem. He fucking sucks and has done since even the start of CS:GO, he just gets worse every year. Can't understand why they picked him up. He's never shown anything good tactically or on individual skill level.
2019-02-17 12:56
#84
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India stiwa5k 
Ikr
2019-02-17 13:04
well actually he is fragging pretty decently in the past months for an igl but yeah, yu have to feel like his igl skill is shit since fnatic failed 2 majors in a row because of him
2019-02-17 14:04
LUL, Karrigan looked like tier 7 playing against tier 5 and 6 teams, Furia absolutely destroyed him.
2019-02-17 12:57
#89
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Germany Constikdw 
with 4 bots on the team lul
2019-02-17 13:07
5 bots
2019-02-17 14:34
remove swedes from fnatic and add 5 brits = top 6 team
2019-02-17 13:07
#88
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Germany Constikdw 
krimz (main star) twist (awp) brollan (entry) Golden/hampus (igl) Olof/flusha (lurk)
2019-02-17 13:07
#97
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India stiwa5k 
I'd love that
2019-02-17 13:54
#92
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Sweden Lagge15 
It is a lot that needs to be considered when talking about "Fnatic fix". First things first; Xizt as an IGL have proved that the team can perform against good oponents (world class), by having 5 match points against Astralis in a bo3 when the lineup still was young, and they have beaten Liquid gaming quite recently. So we know the potential in this team. But as we have seen over and over again some calls and team play is really awful for big portions of the game and against lesser known teams they regularly underperform. But even under Golden there were issues with the team (even though it was more consistantly good). Golden had a great CT-side with Krimz playing a support role as well as Lekr0 while JW got to do what he wanted with the AWP. They played more coherently and did much more pop-flashes and supporting smokes, while under Xizt the CT side is just puggy. Also; under Xizt the T-side have gotten better but that is probably not solely because of Xizt leadership and tactics but because a change in approach. The whole team is aggressive in another way and push more frequently. They easy takes site because of the overflow of players with good aim and reaction (Brollan, Twist and Krimz) but they got problems holding a site. Almost all players can see JW, Brollan and Twist declining performance under Xizt and that is something too difficult to analyze as an outsider observer. It could (most likely) be because of Xizt or Jumpy (coach) and their inability to get the team to play together. But it can also be because of other reasons. In JW's case it could be because of him ageing or it is because his teammates doesn't support him with smokes and flashes as he is used to. The map pool under Golden was good but until the start of the Major challengers stage it looked better under Xizt. The approach to the game is completely different know because Xizt and Golden are so different IGLs. Take Inferno for instance: during Golden they took banana control slowly by using utility until they had 1 or 2 man lead and were at least at Car. Then after that they had map control and man advantage to do plays after that. Under Xizt they try to take as much map control as possible just by exploring where the enemies are and go for information to know where to push. I would say Fnatic should take a few months figuring out how to Solveig all the roster problems. My suggestions is to start by talong away Xizt and Jumpy and see how that affect the rest of the squad. JW signing a 3 year contract also means it is more difficult to do any other changes to the squad
2019-02-17 13:49
#99
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India stiwa5k 
Great opinion and suggestion, huge +1
2019-02-17 13:55
#100
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Sweden Lagge15 
Thanks
2019-02-17 13:56
I still cant understand why the fuck they signed jw for 3 years, great move to sign krimz but JW???? he is legit ruinning this team with all his dumb pushes and die so many times for stupid reason, useless and inconsistent player
2019-02-17 14:02
#116
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Sweden Lagge15 
cArn is the one negotiating contracts right? We've seen this before. He keep his friends in the team for too long and kick players he can't stand. To sign 3 years with Krimz and JW was kinda bold edpecially before thr majors. If they would have been top 8 this major it would have been genius to sign them right before thr Major started but now it just seems weird
2019-02-17 15:05
sigining krimz was a good move, he is a beast and has really good working ethic + smart about the game but JW is legit doing the same stupid mistakes since 5 years now and his stupid playstyle hurts fnatic so much, Ive always Wonder how good fnatic could have been if they had a consistent and solid awper with normal decision making instand of him
2019-02-17 15:09
#118
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Sweden Lagge15 
He is good but inconsistant. He was great when Flusha was right beside him. If he perform his best the new contract would be great to show Fnatic as a power house that takes care of their legends. But now they just seem to be an org rewarding lokalt instead of performance and focusing on the past more than the future. It could have been a great move but it turned out it wasn't (as of now). But perhaps they can get a gaming house and most of them will improve?
2019-02-17 15:23
#93
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France Kimiro 
-anybody +me
2019-02-17 13:50
#98
Sweden wnsz 
Danes understand swedish but swedes doesn't understand danish, most of the times. So -xizt +karrigan would never work out. I think -xizt +golden could work if he's healthy again.
2019-02-17 13:54
Yep also JW shud b kicked if he not awp why take him useless
2019-02-17 13:57
go international, kick xizt and jw for valde and sunny
2019-02-17 13:58
krimz JW twist Brollan nawwk
2019-02-17 13:58
- jw + hampus so they have an actual igl
2019-02-17 14:00
#105
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United Kingdom Mattors 
If Karrigan joins, then fnatic cannot play in WESG, which is basically a free 700K for them. They wont do that. Also, this team has potential, krimz twist and brollan are all good firepower. Jw is inconsistent, but he did have some rounds vs G2 where he was good.
2019-02-17 14:02
#126
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India stiwa5k 
Never thpught about the wesg thing, something really needs to be done tho
2019-02-17 16:53
I don't think fnatic can get that 700k too easily. Mibr probably will get it
2019-02-17 17:33
#135
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United Kingdom Mattors 
even still. 3,4th place gets like 50k
2019-02-17 17:43
well, that's pretty far to 700k
2019-02-17 17:48
JW is the problem. Bad and cocky player
2019-02-17 14:14
#125
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India stiwa5k 
+1
2019-02-17 16:53
-karrigan +xizt top1 ez
2019-02-17 14:14
-JW + flusha -Xizt +olofmeister Twist sniper flusha IGL
2019-02-17 14:17
#121
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Mongolia k0ng0 
This could maybe work. I would like xizt to be in FaZe actually.
2019-02-17 16:48
and JW to NiP as sniper
2019-02-17 17:29
#119
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Mongolia k0ng0 
Xzist is way better than karrigan pure fragging. I don't disagree with you though, just saying. Something needs to be done though.
2019-02-17 16:45
#124
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India stiwa5k 
Changes are needed really
2019-02-17 16:52
-xizt (igl) -jumpy (coach) -jw -twist +pronax (coach) +k0nfig +valde +chrisJ (igl)
2019-02-17 16:48
#123
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India stiwa5k 
Huge +1 and a great lineup, very unlikely tho
2019-02-17 16:52
#127
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African Union nm1 
the only problem is that since olof left there hasnt been enough individualy good player to carry the fact that they didnt have like a t1 igl ,problem is there is no good swedish igl since pronax left .Xizt is shit and still is the best swedish igl so that says sth.
2019-02-17 16:56
#149
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India stiwa5k 
True
2019-02-17 18:17
Agreed, if he's ready to play in swedish.
2019-02-17 17:29
#148
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India stiwa5k 
Can he speak tho? I've heard danish and swedish arent similar much
2019-02-17 18:16
Norweigan and danish np, but swedish and danish needs bigger adaption, he'd probaly had to move to get used to it, maybe some lessons too, but Device learned it just from his girlfriend etc. and moddii also learned danish fairly easy back in the days. Doesn't work when u like Znajder for dignitas is not willing to move at work on the language.
2019-02-17 18:22
#158
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India stiwa5k 
Hehe alrighty
2019-02-17 18:33
#132
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Hard to argue with that.
2019-02-17 17:37
#146
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India stiwa5k 
Heheh honest
2019-02-17 18:15
imo you should put twist in the star awp role instead of jw make jw 2nd awp and lurker don't let xizt do vetos
2019-02-17 17:42
#144
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India stiwa5k 
Who'd do vetoes then? Jumpy is even more useless than xizt
2019-02-17 18:14
#136
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Italy AlCapone1925 
-4 of current team bots Forest +Ins +DSN +Carn +Archi
2019-02-17 17:44
#145
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India stiwa5k 
Good old days
2019-02-17 18:14
#137
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Austria zeroflo 
swedish superteam: Olof KRIMZ twist (AWP) golden (IGL) brollan pronax (Coach)
2019-02-17 17:44
#143
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India stiwa5k 
+1 No swedish superteam without f0rest imo tho
2019-02-17 18:14
#138
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Czech Republic Bj0rnCSGO 
Twist (AWP) Krimz Olof Lekr0 (IGL) brollan
2019-02-17 17:46
Faze +xizt Finatic +karigan No context next Black devils +PashaBiceps +Neo
2019-02-17 17:47
#140
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Sweden fxzo 
No dude, karrigan isn't better than xizt in terms of skills. Karrigan couldn't even perform against T3 teams
2019-02-17 17:48
#142
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India stiwa5k 
Atleast better of an igl than xizt then?
2019-02-17 18:13
#147
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Austria zeroflo 
2019-02-17 18:15
#152
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India stiwa5k 
OmegaLOL
2019-02-17 18:19
#167
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Sweden fxzo 
LOL
2019-02-17 23:23
#169
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Sweden fxzo 
Well he make faze a top 3 team so he was better IGL. But nowadays idk maybe xizt is slightly better
2019-02-17 23:26
#150
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Denmark shaekbye 
1st karrigan isnt better, krimz is slightly overrated, brollan is overrated but lets wait for the future, twist??? never seen sth special with awp from him.. when they lost flusha it was over
2019-02-17 18:17
#151
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India stiwa5k 
Swedish cs is in a slump, nip are making up for it. As far as fnatic are concerned, they need to get their ahit together
2019-02-17 18:18
#153
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Denmark shaekbye 
i would love to see flusha for dennis in nip.. scary
2019-02-17 18:19
#154
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India stiwa5k 
Would be a whole new NIP, f0rest and flusha with rez and lekr0 would be really sick
2019-02-17 18:20
#155
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Denmark shaekbye 
then flusha igl and gtr can step it up too as we can see.. flusha just cheating them away :D
2019-02-17 18:21
Options flusha KRIMZ twist Brollan karrigan or flusha krimz brollan twist hampus JW need to be droped,flusha might comeback to EU after the major,same with kio. he even said dont wanna be IGL for a long time if golden wont return
2019-02-17 18:36
+1
2019-02-17 18:44
i hate fnatic. they're only mistake in my pick'em
2019-02-17 21:58
#170
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India stiwa5k 
Unluko
2019-02-18 00:45
Disband /closed
2019-02-17 23:25
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