its not funny m8.everyone know when navi play like navi what they can do.but they have some problems and they will struggle probably.
ı was big fan of navi at cs 1.6.
they obviously wont go 0-3, but i would bet big bucks for them to not make the champs stage, tbh their time as a team is ending, their showing at ice was frightening, zeus already talking about retirement, edward should already be retired, i dont see them qualifying over nip/renegades/vitality, could be wrong tho
its not really balls tbh, the 3-0 pick you should never pick the team you think will 3-0 cos if they 3-1 u lose a pick, so a team like Astralis and liquid you would be silly to put them as 3-0 as if they lose just one bo1 you dont get the pick and a team that you would have put in the other 7 spots is likely to be removed by the team you picked to go 3-0 so you could potentually lose 2 picks.
best thing to do is put in the 7 teams you think will advance including the team you think will 3-0 and then put a team you dont think will get 3 wins but could potentually if everything goes right for them (like big did) go 3-0 so a team like renegades isnt a bad pick for 3-0
Was thinking about this pickem stuff :
Wouldn't it be better to go for a 3-0 for a team like BIG, RNG, Vitality ?
Astralis and Liquid are almost 100% gonna go for a 3-x but they might get upset by a team like vitality or renegades for example.
With BIG, RNG or Vitality you got less chance (and they can upset teams like astralis or Liquid and then it's only a bo3) but it won't fuck your pickem if you're wrong seeing that you got 2 right with Astralis and Liquid ?
Btw what do you think about Na vi and Faze chance ? Na vi doesn't look too good atm but it's a major .. And Faze just added Adren and they weren't that good before that. What about putting renegades or one of the french team (which one ?) in place of these 2 ?
I'm really lost about these pickems and Idk what to do lol
yeah thats my point about the 3-0, Astralis and Liquid are a 99% chance of going through imo either 3-0 or 3-1 but if they both get upset in a Bo1 then they might not go through 3-0 and if you picked them as a 3-0 you lose the pick even if they go through.
i personally picked Renegades as my 3-0 pick, not because im Australian but because i was actually really impressed with them in the challenger stage, them and NRG where the best 2 teams in that stage and deserved the 3-0, and Renegades executes looked really strong, and i was especially impressed with there pistol strats. for me it was a really hard pick for that last spot in the 7 between Ence and Renegades but i picked Ence as the 7th spot and put Renegades to 3-0, the reason i did this is i actually think they both could go through but i think renegades have a higher chance of going 3-0 then ence do so i did a gamble and went Renegades to 3-0 and Ence to qualify for the legends stage.
my other picks are
MIBR (got a bit harder after the liquid pick as those are the only 2 standout teams atm)
Navi (its a major and i get the feeling S1mple will carry hard, and if Electronic plays well they will go through)
Ence (was between them and Renegades IMO with Vitality being an outside chance but i went with 3-0 renegades and ence in the 7th spot)
0-3 i went with complexity, nothing against them but they just look like the weakest team on the list.
thats just my thinking behind my picks.
I really think Renegades can do a 3-x so it bother me to risk them for the 3-0 ..
I'm not really sure about Faze. I hesitate to put them on the 3-0 team cause they can 3-0 or go home. It's not really good now that Adren joined them.
And I would put Vitality over Ence I think
So in fact it's either :
3-x Astralis, Liquid, NRG, MIBR, Renegades, Vitality, Navi
3-x Astralis, Liquid, NRG, MIBR, Ence, Vitality, Navi
What do you think ?
Lots of upsets could happen imo, we don't know the form of teams like Faze MiBR CoL Liquid NaVi or even Astralis whereas the team which managed to go through in the qualifier are ready to fight and now use to play on the stage. I'd like to see Vitality winning against Astralis MiBR or NaVi in the opening match because they could in a BO1 surprise anyone of them imo
Kreygasm Finally someone enlightened about the 3-0 pick and its possibility to take two points away from you. I think it might even be worth going furhtere and pick someone who will (most likely) NOT make it out of the groups as the 3-0.
Actually i'm even going to make a study of a few cases for this (the following basically assumes that your picks are the absolute thruth untill said otherwise):
Lets say you pick all 8 advancing team right, but your 3-0 is wrong. At that point you get 7 points out of it (no point for your 3-0 pick).
What happens if one of your choices for advancing team is wrong and your 3-0 fails but advances? You get 5 points. Now if your 3-0 doesn't advance, you actually get 6 points because the failed pick doesn't "steal" an advancing spot from another team. If two of your choices are wrong, you will get 4 points for the pick advancing and 5 if it doesn't, and so on.
The most important part is what picks you will need to get 5 points. Here we'll assume 0-3 pick is right:
3-0 pick advances with 1 or 2 L:
You need 4 more advancing teams teams correct, so you will have selected five teams that advanced and got 4 points. THREE picks can be wrong.
3-0 pick doesn't advance:
You need 4 correct picks for advancing teams, so you will have selected four advancing teams and got four points. FOUR pics can be wrong.
If your 0-3 is wrong, then you will need one correct pick extra for both. That means you will have to choose six advancing teams if 3-0 drops a map and five if it gets eliminated.
TLDR: A messy text which argues that it is better to pick a team that will definitely not go out of groups as 3-0 pick if your goal is reaching 5 points.
lol yes ofc, but they won a major with gambot without actually practicing so maybe the secret is to not give a fuck and go in without thinking, anyway he will retire soon after the major so im confident navi will soon disband and s1mple will finally be free to choose an actual decent team in which he can be top 1 without 1v9ing everyday
feel like s1mple will still hard carry NAVI for at least one win, even tho this team is shit overall and dying from the Inside ive seen them being way worse as a team yet s1mple just win everything 1v9
Why is everyone picking navi as 0-3 they are always shit mode before the major. Before faceit london they were knocked out in the round of 8 by north in dreamhack stockholm and they got to the final. They always come back for the major
0-3 CoL is only choice imo cause they've been losing to shitters and I don't think they will achieve anything of note.
Agree Na'vi will probably not be knocked out - safe enough for a pick at the least.
Well let's look at the facts: we can be 100% sure teams like complexity, MIBR, Na'Vi and HR are not getting through.
Which of those get obliterated with 0-3 result, I dont know. What I do know is that all aforementioned teams will disband shortly after Major (if not during it).
c9 struggled against weaker teams and their form isn't good. I'm betting 3-0 mibr just cuz i'm a fan and I don't believe astralis will win 3-0, I still think they are the strongest and favorite team to win but every time a fuckin team is favorite to win something they lose at least 1 game in the group stage just to crash any hope in the next stage
NRG is on point, they have performed very well on challenger stage and can for sure upset top tier team
And for BIG idk, i feel like presure gonna have a bad impact on xantares communication and lead them to a disapointing event
Here's my 2019 IEM Katowice Pick'Em for the Legends stage
3-0 pick: Ninjas in Pyjamas (gamble af)
0-3 pick: CompLexity Gaming