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G2 > Vitality
SmithZz | 
Belgium Chuckyyy 
How can people think Vitality are better than G2 ? I mean c'mon... NBK may have played well but how long will it last until ZywOo has to carry 1v9 like always ? They lost to Tyloo, almost lost to Grayhound ( i mean wtf, Grayhound came at the event as tourists xD ), played Vega on one of their worst map and won vs ViCi in some very close games thanks to ZywOo for the impactful clutches and plays. apEX's playstyle is a double-edged sword, either it works or it doesn't, but it's very unlikely that it will work vs structured teams. Everything relies on individual plays. In the other hand, you have G2 who started the major pretty badly in Bo1s but played great in Bo3s. They obviously lost their first games because of the pressure. Then, they started playing like they use to in practice. ( Ocelote even said himself he was very satisfied with how well things were going for G2 in their practice games ) Mirage obviously is a map they need to work on if they don't wanna give a free map all the time but their teamplay on D2, Cache and Overpass was the proof that they worked hard since last month. I could see a lot of refrags, new strats, good individual plays and they even created a new way to take mid on Cache that i had never seen before. I don't say G2 are perfect, they have some shit rounds too but they have much more potential than Vitality. I have nothing against Vitality btw, i would love to see them going far too.
2019-02-18 23:56
Too long
2019-02-18 23:57
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2019-02-19 08:03
France PowwneD 
Daily G2 > Vitality thread from Chuckyyyy
2019-02-18 23:58
Russia bralBry 
He acts like a braindead troll 90% of the time but this is surprisingly good and well-thought thread.
2019-02-19 00:02
France TheArchitect 
The real question is : do he really believes in what he says ?
2019-02-19 01:20
Russia bralBry 
I hope not)
2019-02-19 07:57
France Paprii 
+1 Delusional fan
2019-02-19 12:24
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
G2's map pool is the opposite to most other teams so they have a chance in Bo3s.
2019-02-18 23:58
Teams will probably ban D2 against G2 but from what i've seen from them recently, they seem to play very well on Nuke and it would probably be their pick
2019-02-19 00:01
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
In Bo1s sure, but remember in Bo3s most teams ban for comfort so D2 will be available as no-one really perma bans it these days.
2019-02-19 00:02
Teams with a good map-pool will ban D2, the others will ban the map they ban usually
2019-02-19 00:03
Russia zbogus 
No one has a god map pool, even astralis always bans cache unless the other team (Navi) permabans it
2019-02-19 07:53
United States Samsquanch_ 
Doesn’t matter with ast or liquid They have almost no perm bans And could shit on g2 in almost any bo3 I love Kenny and shox just as much as the next guy, but their tactics (as always since 2015) are stale
2019-02-19 00:11
United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not expecting them to beat Astralis or Liquid, I just don’t think it’s impossible that they make it through.
2019-02-19 00:24
i think ur right if "cant beat AST/liquid" = "not qualifying" then only 4 teams will qualify lmao g2 has a chance of sneaking in at 3-2
2019-02-19 08:11
Tldr but G2 have looked like absolute crap this year
2019-02-18 23:59
But the year has just started xD
2019-02-19 00:01
You can count 2018 as well Although 1,5 months is already enough to make an impression
2019-02-19 00:04
Judging a team who only played for 1 month and a half is retarded tbh
2019-02-19 00:08
They’ve played more than that and we both know they won’t go far with this lineup. G2 management is retarded so it’s not surprising they decided to sign some trash players and keep body as well
2019-02-19 00:10
> we both know they won’t go far with this lineup. "We" ? You mean the people in your head ? Because i don't
2019-02-19 00:12
Well you’re delusional then
2019-02-19 00:13
Belgium AKANorth 
Chucky at it again.
2019-02-19 00:02
> They obviously lost their first games because of the pressure. So did Vitality tho
2019-02-19 00:07
Vitality weren't even looking that good at the 4th day, unlike G2
2019-02-19 00:09
ZywOo | 
France bjjthibz 
yeah sure they beat Vega 16-2 or someth but not looking good. Man stop your bullshit and cheer for both teams G2 and Vitality stop wanting to opposite them ... french ppl cheer for both teams.
2019-02-19 00:11
Overpass is one of Vega's worst map. And as i said before, the only things i saw were individual plays etc...
2019-02-19 00:14
Vitality didn't play on day 4 lul But I assume you mean round 4 and I mean, ViCi played really well, you think G2 would've raped them? Props to G2 for beating TyLoo though.
2019-02-19 00:12
+1 I was going to type this same thing.
2019-02-19 00:09
+1 How can people think zywoo better than kennys... No cheater no vitality win no onliner no vitality win thats s1mple Vitality=1 man army
2019-02-19 00:10
Overall, Zywoo is better than kennyS but Kenny is much more complete with the AWP. KennyS is a better AWPer for sure
2019-02-19 00:17
JaCkz | 
France Nairelav 
It's probably because Zywoo isnt a main AWP ^^
2019-02-19 07:42
Czech Republic QuertyX 
2019-02-19 12:53
Brazil fuNNa 
i feel sad for you
2019-02-19 00:11
United States Samsquanch_ 
Should just be Shox, NBK, Kenny, zywoo, and jacko Shox and NBK need to sit down and make out already, or French cs will never win another major
2019-02-19 00:13
shox kennyS ZywOo ScreaM apEX Would be ideal
2019-02-19 00:14
Please stop overrating ScreaM like that, people....
2019-02-19 00:18
Flag doesn’t check out
2019-02-19 00:19
+1 agree at this. Scream very overrated
2019-02-19 01:43
Scream omegalul
2019-02-19 07:51
Anyone else knew who the author of this thread would be before clicking on it?
2019-02-19 00:13
Finland dev2ce 
Yes, the same old delusional moron
2019-02-19 01:18
France TheArchitect 
Yes, I instantly knew it was the traditional daily G2top1hereswhy topic from Chuckyyy
2019-02-19 01:25
when turn a film you send me the link
2019-02-19 00:17
I mean Vitality did what they were supposed to do in their last 3 matches and people really need to stop underrating the asian scene. Vitality vs tyloo on inferno made mistakes that are unforgivable such as the 1v4 summer won but overall they looked better than G2 who beat a clearly very weak fnatic and just like g2, none of the teams they beat made it to the next stage so theres not much more to be said about the results, they look pretty even atm. Vitality also have pretty innovative strats to activate zywoo and rely pretty heavily on nades, they pretty much attempt to do every peek with a flash, double peek, etc. They also have a deeper map pool than G2 being able to play mirage and nuke at a higher level than g2. G2 has a skill advantage as jackz and lucky are better aimers than rpk and alex, but bodyy also sandbags a lot just like rpk does and they dont fully look like tier 1 players, just the best supportive elements that were/are available to them. Overall most of their games come down to individuals stepping up as both of them are built around star players. But in terms of teamplay and tactics Vitality is ahead. And anyway the point of the major is to see which of these teams, with respect to the others, truly has done the work and improved and can "show what theyre doing in practice" which rumors are really good for both squads, which i have not heard from the french scene in a while. Why even make the decision which team is better right now when the tournament a week from now will pretty much answer those questions.
2019-02-19 00:19
1) Vitality are shit on Nuke. Their t-sides are bad as fuck and they even got rekt by G2 on it last time they played against eachother 2) bodyy bringging them down? Wtf ? Have you seen him playing in the Challenger stage ? HE came back much stronger than before and ended up with a 1.13 rating or something. 3) Vitality better tactically ? Ok it's your opinion.
2019-02-19 00:24
1. They arent shit on nuke, thats a 1 map sample size. Flawed logic. 2. bodyy is clearly their worst player and if you think otherwise you're delusional. That was his highest rated tournament since 3. its not just opinion its backed up by nade damage and flash time/assist stats as well as the eye test that shows that G2 are much more individually based than vitality
2019-02-19 01:02
1. Yes they are. Their only wins are against shit teams. 2. He's just changed his role to a role that suits him more, like in early 2017. 3. It's your opinion. I think G2 have more potential tactically and you think the opposite, simple as that.
2019-02-19 01:04
Theyve beaten the best teams they played them on though, Cant beat teams they havent faced yet If you think hell stay at this level then im really excited for g2 but he never does my opinion is based in fact and logic i.e NBK actually being a cerebral player while shox is aggressive and skill based as well as the nade stats that back it up
2019-02-19 01:42
France PowwneD 
"G2 beat Vitality" talking about a game that was almost 3 month ago without the sames lineup so please give something relevant for the first time in ur life
2019-02-19 07:37
have u seen G2s t-side against ence on ovp? that was one of the poorest tactical displays of a professional team ive seen in a long time. I agree G2 gets underratd by many, but tactically they really have to step up.
2019-02-19 12:19
I know, they played like shit in the first days but they started playing like they do in practice vs fnatic
2019-02-19 12:33
Yeah which was still a very individualistic style but the individuals actually stepped up
2019-02-19 15:58
Sweden ScineLy1 
2019-02-19 00:17
Portugal pielott 
i agree that g2 look better because the shox lucky and kennys are prert but vilatity is just a zywoo show so i think that g2 will probably win major maybe 2th place if astralis good no bug smoke
2019-02-19 00:21
Man just imagine that both Vitality and G2 will fail and won't go to the playoffs. Vitality have a big lack of firepower and they are not proven yet and G2 maybe had won some BO3 but if they really put the effort when it comes to Tier 1 teams?
2019-02-19 00:23
Tbh, from what i've seen on Dust2 Cache and Overpass, they really have the potential to beat tier 1 teams.
2019-02-19 00:25
They have reallllly strong Dust2. Like in the previous stage they were probably the strongest team on this map. If it comes to the other maps I think they could have a problem. As we have a BIG on cache and Navi on Overpass. Mibr is good on overpass as I remember. I think that teams will be banning Dust2 against G2 all the time
2019-02-19 00:28
If teams ban D2, G2 can still pick Nuke, it's one of their best map
2019-02-19 00:29
I don't really know because didn't saw any Nuke from G2 for a long time. But most of the teams banning Nuke too
2019-02-19 00:34
But they can't ban Nuke if they ban D2, and they can't ban D2 if they ban Nuke.
2019-02-19 00:34
Not if we talk in BO1 but in BO3 you are right. Still I'm not sure about them, we will see. If they win you can be proud for yourself on the whole HLTV
2019-02-19 00:39
In Bo1, G2 always end up playing Overpass or Cache
2019-02-19 00:53
Netherlands poeya 
invalid opinion because fan of ex6tenz and smithzz
2019-02-19 00:54
Idk why it matters but k
2019-02-19 01:05
Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Jajajaja never
2019-02-19 01:03
Argentina Fa7e07 
2019-02-19 01:27
Germany k0ri 
both is shit
2019-02-19 01:13
Same as Xantares on LAN
2019-02-19 01:15
Germany k0ri 
2019-02-19 19:28
i arent think that
2019-02-19 01:15
g pas lu
2019-02-19 01:28
J'suis triste ;(
2019-02-19 01:32
India St3elSh0t 
G2 vs Vitality make it happen
2019-02-19 01:30
Won't happen G2 will probably face FaZe or Liquid in the 1st Round
2019-02-19 01:31
China serdim 
already happened wesg west Europe final
2019-02-19 01:38
2019-02-19 08:14
Brazil bernog 
man I'm starting to think that you are me in another account hahahaha, we have the same feelings #G2WIN
2019-02-19 01:41
RpK | 
Luxembourg codygod 
G2 + Vitality = VERYGAMES -> Top 1 in the world.
2019-02-19 07:54
g2 plus vit = disabled baguettes
2019-02-19 08:20
They would win but tournaments usually don't accept a 10vs5 game
2019-02-19 13:12
Another day, another G2 b8 thread from chucky
2019-02-19 07:55
Stop saying i'm b8ting, it hurts me
2019-02-19 12:34
Sho to huinya, sho eto huinya. Vot eto obe huini takie, sho ya ebal ego mamu rot
2019-02-19 08:19
Belgium wdnz 
Their MIrage and Overpass T-side are a joke.
2019-02-19 08:24
They were good vs Fnatic on Overpass
2019-02-19 12:11
United Kingdom mcswagadog 
2019-02-19 12:38
France Yo_Les_Noobz 
Obviously they dont play Mirage.
2019-02-19 19:49
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
so when vitality loose you don try to find them excuse but when g2 loose you try as hard as possible to fond them excuses seems a bit hypocritical to me
2019-02-19 08:26
There's no excuse when you almost lose to Grayhound
2019-02-19 12:12
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
there's no excuse when you almost lost to vega.
2019-02-19 12:20
But Vega are a good upset team in Bo1s xD
2019-02-19 12:35
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
they were they are not anymore stop leaving in the past i not its hard for a fan of scream ex6 and smithzz they literally only won against fucking spirit how are they an upset team ?
2019-02-19 12:50
Italy CHEBBOxxx 
hope for a baguette derby in a 2-2 series. FUCK VITALITY.
2019-02-19 12:12
Belgium talking xd
2019-02-19 12:34
s1mple | 
Kazakhstan KimiNha 
tbh ZywOo > G2. not vitality > G2
2019-02-19 12:35
+1 lets all be honest with ourselves, vitality is’s zywooality.
2019-02-19 19:41
United Kingdom mcswagadog 
2019-02-19 12:37
+1 my bff
2019-02-19 12:39
<3 JaCkZ most impactful in G2 btw
2019-02-19 18:30
Imo he's a better lurk then shox now. And he does so much in the team mentally. Keeps the others calm and full of info
2019-02-19 18:54
AmaNEk | 
France ZywHere 
Tell em Chukyyy boy but Zywoo > G2
2019-02-19 13:16
2019-02-19 17:44
expected from chucky
2019-02-19 19:29
Vitality have more firepower (actually much more if apEX and RpK show up). Ok, ALEX is a Bot tbh
2019-02-19 19:44
Rpk shows up one game out of 30 and apEX's playstyle won't work vs top teams
2019-02-19 20:26
G2 will go through they can upset in bo1s as well (inferno seems pretty strong for them) btw I think they can play train as well vitality heavy relies on zywoo nbk sometimes steps up but overall very poor performance imo in challengers stage after almost loosing to grayhound and ViCi
2019-02-19 20:47
How can you know how good they are on Inferno ? i agree for the rest :)
2019-02-19 23:06
woxic | 
Turkey Arsly2K 
Shox got married so g2 betta
2019-02-19 23:53
Both are trash so who cares. G2 are completely lost however with no plan or synergy except for on maps like D2 (shox is a terrible IGL) Both teams rely on their stars to perform, if they don't then they have 0% chance of competing with the best.
2019-02-19 23:58
vitality > g2
2019-02-20 00:00
Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Nope, it's the other way around
2019-02-20 01:07
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