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stupidest seeding system ever
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Finland Jardeet 
how is the seeding system fair in this major? because coL have been put last that means in every bracket (0-0 0-1 0-2) they have to vs the hardest team in that bracket making their major way harder than anybody elses. meanwhile teams like astralis have played coL c9 and now renegades? congratulations astralis on your free pass into playoffs. they should just randomise the games so atleast you will get some tier 1 teams playing each other.
2019-02-21 07:49
#1
shox | 
Latvia kebab_b 
1/8
2019-02-21 07:50
Why change flag?
2019-02-21 07:51
#36
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Finland Jardeet 
they dont have pluto flag for me
2019-02-21 08:21
why change the flag?
2019-02-22 12:55
#161
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
they dont have pluto flag for me
2019-02-22 13:05
thats what i thought, thats not fair its actually fucking stupid. It should be random. Teams like Astralis and liquid benefit from it though but ok
2019-02-21 07:51
#23
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Finland Jardeet 
yeah i think the format of games is great making ir bo1s until the elimination/advancing stages but the seeding makes it stupid.
2019-02-21 08:04
Liquid vs Navi No t1 teams play vs each other? It’s good because we don’t want any more stupid lucky teams like IMT, COL that just get super easy BO1 matches and then gives shitty freewin quarterfinals. This way the best teams is more likely to get though and we will have a solid bracket w/o free wins.
2019-02-21 09:08
+1
2019-02-21 09:35
+1
2019-02-21 09:53
+1
2019-02-21 10:02
+1, if you cant beat them you dont deserve to be in top8 anyways, if you think about it
2019-02-21 10:04
in reverse, its true for bigger teams like we could see in the prev majors...
2019-02-21 11:00
+1
2019-02-21 11:08
#155
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United Kingdom EKersh 
+1
2019-02-22 12:57
+1
2019-02-23 07:23
#103
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Denmark Stagz 
They are called Legends and Challengers for a reason. Challengers needs to challenge the legends to get the status of being a Legend for the forthcoming major.
2019-02-21 09:52
#120
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Slovakia sanjuro 
its not stupid its way it should be, but problem is why complexity has lowest seeding when they are legends.
2019-02-21 11:05
Because they suck and the teams ranked them the lowest ?
2019-02-21 12:55
So all the teams collectively fucked over complexity even tho they are legends. the legends should have the top 8 seeds and then the challengers should have the bottom 8 and based on the performance at the minor
2019-02-22 13:02
They seeded rng 14 when they came 1st/2nd challengers and had a much harder draw than nrg. Looks like they fucked other teams too.
2019-02-24 05:11
Yeh it was a stupid idea to ask the teams. They're too busy working on strats to be able to rank teams
2019-02-24 09:03
#4
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Romania Dumi90 
actually this is normal , in every other game , if u are nr 1 in world u should have some benefits no ? if a underdog is to win a tournament they will beat all top teams
2019-02-21 07:51
#5
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Finland Jardeet 
well they could make the first games on 0-0 seeded like they did and then randomise the rest because coL are punished every single game.
2019-02-21 07:54
#8
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Romania Dumi90 
true it would be more fair
2019-02-21 07:55
It is not punishment it is seedning....
2019-02-21 07:55
look up the definition of punish
2019-02-21 08:24
Well I have when I was learning English and that is decades ago. Punishment is something that is not deserved. In a seeding you get the seeding you deserve due to past achievements so your seeding is deserved. Therefore there is no punishment involved :D
2019-02-21 17:25
"Punishment is something that is not deserved." Dude, please look up the definition. That is absolutely wrong
2019-02-22 01:53
past achievements? of what, complexity getting legend status then getting fucked over anyway? Its a joke and people defending it only do so because they are fans of top teams. If all the teams got together and did this to astralis, there would be outrage
2019-02-22 13:03
#57
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Russia zbogus 
Instead of randomasing completely they should have fixed brackets so 1 place plays 8 or 9 place no matter what happens
2019-02-21 08:38
+1
2019-02-21 07:54
+1
2019-02-21 09:25
#85
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Germany NatsuS 
if you are nr1 it should be harder for you than for anybody else
2019-02-21 09:31
no it shouldnt lmao just take a look at other sports
2019-02-21 11:27
#130
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Germany NatsuS 
What they do and what they should do are two different things. In Dota valve tournaments they give a fuck about ranks or what you have won. So it is possible.
2019-02-21 12:47
#146
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World Donut123 
so in our world astralis should have choked at every event for the paast 3 moths in order to get the lowest seeding. so that they get the easier path?
2019-02-22 02:36
#153
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Germany NatsuS 
As would anybody lose and lose to win one tournament. Haha
2019-02-22 12:53
#163
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World Donut123 
cause major is more important...
2019-02-22 19:33
#165
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Germany NatsuS 
yeah throw probably 2 million pricemoney for a major LUL
2019-02-23 07:21
You are stupid man, sorry to tell. If you are an underdog, you need to prove that you deserve to reach the playoffs. And of course you will see t1 teams against each other. IN THE FUCKING PLAYOFFS!!! that's the point, great games in playoffs. Last major BiG and CoL reached playoffs because of that "random matches" and they did shit.
2019-02-21 07:54
+1
2019-02-21 08:01
#29
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
+1
2019-02-21 08:16
+1
2019-02-21 08:23
#41
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Europe lalt 
+1
2019-02-21 08:24
#48
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Switzerland Tacticalsine 
+1
2019-02-21 08:30
#49
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India AAgOnFire 
+1000000
2019-02-21 08:30
#51
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Canada ast1k 
so if u are a favorite then what?? u have to prove that u can beat underdogs? sorry man, but u are the only one stupid here, this seeding system is absolutely shit and unfair and u can't even argue with that.
2019-02-21 08:32
I just did, also it's not only me that is saying that, you and maybe another 5% of the total viewers are saying that this system is shit. The worst possible system you can put in THE BIGGEST COMPETITIVE TOURNAMENT OF THE SEASON is fucking randomising matches.
2019-02-21 08:35
extra +1
2019-02-21 08:46
hahah, this is the first time i get so many +1's
2019-02-21 08:50
#71
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
extra +1
2019-02-21 09:05
another +1
2019-02-21 09:49
#62
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Canada ast1k 
why not? dude if u look on this situation from another side u will understand that it's absolutely unfair by teams like coL and others, also without any sensations any tourmanent looking boring af
2019-02-21 08:51
the group stage is suppose to look boring, but having all the best teams in play offs will be hype af. who cares about group stage, I just want the best teams in semi finals and finals and not some fluke team that lucked their way out of groupstage
2019-02-21 09:28
+1
2019-02-21 09:26
"u have to prove that u can beat underdogs?" They will face the better teams in playoffs. Also if you are a favourite like Astralis, every team is an underdog team compared to you. NaVi. TL, FaZe, everyone.
2019-02-21 09:56
This makes me remember the Boston major, in the playoffs cloud 9 had to defeat from the third to the best team in the world one by one to win the major, they deserved that major because they needed to prove themselves against the best teams (although it wasn't because of seeding) anyway, if teams want to reach something they should prove themselves against the best teams, and the best teams don't need to do it because they have already done it in the past tournaments
2019-02-22 02:21
underrated comment
2019-02-21 09:15
+1
2019-02-21 09:20
+1
2019-02-21 09:25
+1
2019-02-21 09:48
+420
2019-02-21 09:55
#119
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Denmark Bj3rr1nG 
1+1=+2
2019-02-21 11:03
#131
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Germany NatsuS 
Here you are the underdog cuz of opinions. Complexity was a legend team. So official no underdog team.
2019-02-21 12:50
I never said in that comment CoL is an underdog team, I only said that as an underdog you are supposed to beat high tier teams if you want to compete in this type of tournament.
2019-02-21 12:57
#150
s1mple | 
Australia gb0ng 
+1
2019-02-22 08:56
#156
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United Kingdom EKersh 
+1
2019-02-22 12:57
not sure if actually trolling or stupid lol...
2019-02-21 07:55
I think he has mental retardation. In every other sport in the world this kind of seeding is used
2019-02-21 08:11
I think this system is perfect, but i would make one adjustment to it, make it like Champions league, you have 4 brackets,1-4 seed=1, 5=8 seed=2, 9=12 seed=3, 13-16 seed=4. and in the first round you draft from these seeds(bracket 1 team V bracket 4 team etc), so it would avoid the worst team playing the best teams all the time but also avoid too many strong team head to head.
2019-02-21 07:57
+1.
2019-02-21 08:00
#70
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France Urzqor 
+1
2019-02-21 09:00
#141
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Germany JeanKanne 
good idea +1
2019-02-22 01:58
And when it was random, everyone whined about How fucking bad and random this swiss system was. Gotta love this community
2019-02-21 07:57
#16
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Finland Jardeet 
those guys were idiots random was fine not intentionally putting the best teams vs the worst teams every game
2019-02-21 07:59
Haha ofcourse this is better and makes much more sense . Better teams Will make playoffs and less flukes.
2019-02-21 08:29
#115
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Europe lalt 
Eh, dude, you are the definition of idiot. To figure out who are top8 out of 16 teams, you dont put best teams against each other unless it's full round robin system.
2019-02-21 10:55
Jardeet just stop it, nobody agrees with u. Best seeding system so far.
2019-02-21 11:30
#164
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Finland yesyess 
i think only fans from weaker teams are complaining about this system.
2019-02-22 19:37
+1 This may be good in first round, but not in all 5
2019-02-21 08:00
It’s not in all 5
2019-02-21 08:15
It is.
2019-02-21 23:12
It's not, 4th and 5th round is by elo
2019-02-21 23:17
They say that they gonna build kinda ranking around it so seeding won't be so crucial, but obviously you can't make a ranking on first event with that kind of system.
2019-02-21 23:17
#14
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Germany ONE7 
If you have a swiss system with a group of all teams it should be random and if there where a couple of groups then it should be like in worldcup groups. One a b c and d rated team in each group.
2019-02-21 07:58
#11 Just what i think as well, perfect solution
2019-02-21 08:22
I think only the 1st or 2nd round seeding at most would be better and the following rounds match ups should be drawn by lottery
2019-02-21 08:00
#18
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Finland Jardeet 
true
2019-02-21 07:59
#17
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United States HowToK 
can't please everyone...
2019-02-21 07:59
#20
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Finland Jardeet 
except astralis
2019-02-21 08:00
I hate Astralis, I don't like their playstyle, I don't like their players, I don't like anything about them, but they worked really really hard to be #1 in the world and they deserve to get "easy games". (btw, c9 is not an easy team to beat). And why would you have a 2-3 bo1's with t1 teams now, some of them maybe even get eliminated, only to see CoL get rekted in the quarter finals again. Where is the logic in that? If an underdog wants to win a major, they need to beat every team out there, not only teams on their caliber. This system is 100x better than match randomising, of course it can be improved, but it's still better than anything we had so far. Also, is the fucking major, not some weekend league, there is no place here for t100 teams.
2019-02-21 08:08
#30
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Finland Jardeet 
i agree to an extent but there has to be a better way than the seeding right now. If coL beat astralis on the first game they are rewarded by having to play liquid. then if they lose that they play Faze... like they have no games where they have any chance and if they manage to win a game theyre still getting fucked every other game.
2019-02-21 08:16
1st, I don't actually think CoL would've played Liquid second game....maybe the 3rd seed like Na'Vi. But you can't just give them easy games only because they are the worst (and admit it, they are pretty much one of the worst team in this stage of the tournament). 2nd, I don't understand why would people want t1 teams to get eliminated now, only to get boring games in the quarters. Last major, only FaZe-Astralis was somehow entertaining in the quarters, the other games were boring af. 3rd, Vitality is pretty much an underdog too, 5 time at major with this line-up....and they did pretty good. and 4th, that seeding is based on how a team performed in the last months. You can't simply not attend tournaments and expect a good seeding.
2019-02-21 08:23
#43
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Finland Jardeet 
no coL were ranked last so they would have played 2nd seed which was liquid. coL is last seed so they will play the highest seed every single game in their bracket. and having good games in the groups would be more fun because if these teams are truly tier 1 they wont be getting eliminated in this swiss as they have to lose 3 times including bo3s
2019-02-21 08:28
It's an ELO system, that means if they managed somehow to beat Astralis, there is no way that they remained the last seed. Also, I just looked back at the London major. in the playoffs CoL was the 1st seed and they were matched against the last seed. And they barely managed to win 16 rounds in 2 maps. Why would you want to see that again?
2019-02-21 08:29
#53
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Finland Jardeet 
no it isnt an ELO system they literally show the graphic of the seeds on each bracket after each round of games. not sure why you're making stuff up
2019-02-21 08:34
You must be joking right now xD
2019-02-21 08:35
the elo would of kicked in raising their rank they probably would of played navi or faze
2019-02-21 08:32
#22
Xyp9x | 
Denmark baccster 
The teams get a say in the seedings too which is fucking ridiculous, it's like asking Astralis, "Hey what team do you want to play against for the 1-0 spot?" Get fucked, that is all.
2019-02-21 08:02
Yeah, who in their right mind wants to see the best teams in the final, huh? It's a lot better when they put two of them in the same branch and get one knocked out early, just to see a 40 round BO3 final in the end against an underdog. What were they thinking...
2019-02-21 08:13
#32
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Finland Jardeet 
yes but if the 2 best teams play each other its no big deal because they still have to lose 3 games to be eliminated and no "tier 1" team is going to lose 3 times especially if the last game is a bo3
2019-02-21 08:18
#44
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
Like fnatic right?
2019-02-21 08:27
#45
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Finland Jardeet 
do you think fnatic deserved to go through with who they lost to?
2019-02-21 08:28
#52
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
No way, but by other teams, they were favourites to go 3-0 and screwed up massively.
2019-02-21 08:33
Best system that ever happened to cs and people still complaining
2019-02-21 08:15
#31
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Bulgaria FrostNixon 
Look at tennis, this is the seeding they've used, since well basically forever, and it works great, produces great semis and finals and even better underdog stories. And tennis is the best individual sport at that.
2019-02-21 08:17
#33
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Finland Jardeet 
but isnt tennis single elimination?
2019-02-21 08:20
#69
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
That makes it even worst in tennis Especially if the goal of coL is to save major slot they have ONE fucking game/match to win And you speak about them allways being against the strongest team, yeah, but in a fucking BRACKET, which means that at 0-2, even if seed 16, you play against 13th team in the competition in current form. So even if 16th you can’t beat 13th of the competition, you don’t desserve to come back for next major.
2019-02-21 09:00
Are u gonna comparing Esport to tennis sport? Ohhhhhh Gawd, why there's a lot braindead people in this world...
2019-02-21 08:20
#35
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Luxembourg alex24 
thats why we have bot teams like NRG beeing top10 global ranking when they haven`t won anything, or played against T1 teams... this is the normal way to play games... T1 teams should never play against each other in groups
2019-02-21 08:20
#38
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Finland Jardeet 
its not groups its a triple elimination swiss. this type of seeding would be better if it was actually 4 groups instead of swiss. like the world cup
2019-02-21 08:23
#66
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Luxembourg alex24 
GSL was the same 4 groups x 4 teams 2 x bo1 and the elimination was bo3 only 2 teams advanced, the one in upper bracket and the one in lower bracket look at the major formats from DHW13 to Cologne15
2019-02-21 08:56
That's the best seeding system that was on major yet
2019-02-21 08:38
#59
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Australia Renegades! 
Tbh this system is the best system that was on major yet. + Col would lose to every other team too so stop crying.
2019-02-21 08:43
#63
flusha | 
Germany Kupferr 
bring back groups.. Teams know who to prepare against which leads to better matches. You can have your stupid swiss system in normal tournaments, but the major should have a grouo system.
2019-02-21 08:55
#145
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France LanaRhoades 
GSL is fucking bad , swiss is best
2019-02-22 02:27
#64
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Norway analpain1337 
Yes thats why big, nrg and ence are 0-2 all Lost to overpowered lower seeding. All col shuld have to do if teams preforms = 0-1 face the 8th swedes team 0-2 face the 12th seeded team 0-3 face the 14seeded team. But since this system works and lower seeding teams win col as the worst team Will Go 0-3
2019-02-21 08:55
nvm
2019-02-21 09:09
yean Astralis vs Col was so unfair
2019-02-21 08:56
#117
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Europe lalt 
Astralis has well deserved top seed. And Complexity has well deserved bottom seed. That was the fairest match up of whole major.
2019-02-21 10:59
#67
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Australia t0rrent 
Total fucking smooth-brain right here
2019-02-21 08:57
Vici won and played tougher opponents next round in challengers. This system is a fucking joke since vici could have been better than some teams that qualified but all they did is play top 5 seeded teams lmao. People think nrg are good but they beat no one that qualified in challengers. Get a good seeding here. Now getting exposed. Nip and avangar ranked rng 13th cause they lost to them. People are gaming the system with shitty rankings outside the obvious top 2. This format would only work in single elimination bracket.
2019-02-21 08:57
its fair but not exciting for the viewers
2019-02-21 09:06
#123
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Europe lalt 
Uhm.. random swiss group stage has produced some of the most boring playoffs ever. I'll ve excited to see great match ups where they should happen: in playoffs.
2019-02-21 11:14
hltv.org/forums/threads/1985747/change-m.. I created a thread earlier on this exact topic and got some pretty toxic responses. I believe every team should get an equally difficult path to the Major, though I do understand the arguments for this current format. I thought Buchholz from the London Major was excellent and that the only downside was the lack of BO3 for Elim/Advance matches.
2019-02-21 09:06
#95
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Germany mrrwombat 
+1 I mean complexity vs. Astralis? Come on how should that shit be fair? It´s like they didn´t even want underdogs on the main stage
2019-02-21 09:46
Buchholz was the worst, a system that produces coL-BIG and Ast-Liquid as matchups for 2-0 instead of overdog-underdog cant be good
2019-02-21 09:48
I believe that was due to lack of proper first round seeding. My proposed solution is: Katowice 2019 seeding for first round (like the one used right now) Buchholz for the remaining rounds Bo3 for Qual/Elim matches
2019-02-22 08:22
Possible, but to me the current system seems just fine, with the exception that the team ranking matters a bit too much
2019-02-22 12:39
That's exactly what we're complaining about lol The fate of the teams at the Major depends too much on their initial ranking
2019-02-22 16:33
BEST SEEDING SYSTEM IS INSERTING UR SEMEN INTO UR BROS ASS gachiBASSS
2019-02-21 09:08
#77
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Netherlands Keith_Bakker 
Retard
2019-02-21 09:10
According to your logic, mibr had a free pass for playoff too. Look what happened
2019-02-21 09:19
That's not how it works
2019-02-21 09:32
This system makes sense. The stronger team should practically get a free pass and the lesser team should by definition not be able to make it. Complexity and hellraisers got lucky last year. Top 8 at the major should be the top 8 teams in the world
2019-02-21 09:35
Well, there could still be problem that we get some washed team like mibr to playoffs cuz they only face easy teams thanks to seeding being more important than results in event, unluko moment...
2019-02-21 09:42
The "easy" opponents should not be able to make it without proving themselves against the favoured ones
2019-02-21 09:43
Well I am not talking about these easy teams should make it but rather fact mibr makes it to playoffs over other teams only cuz this other teams has to win over navi, astralis, liquid, faze while mibr plays low ranks shits xd...
2019-02-21 09:47
Yes, it is very hard system for low seed teams but also what you have to realize is despite the fact all of this makes it maybe indeed unfairly tough for low seed in 0-1 game they still meet team who lost their game, in 0-2 game they meet team who lost 2 games, in MIBR game they had many chances despite MIBR high seed cuz MIBR isn't playing that well RN...
2019-02-21 09:39
#90
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Romania themightyflea 
Asta e un forum romanesc acum.
2019-02-21 09:40
#92
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Malta xwinsus 
how much?
2019-02-21 09:42
This system is good to prevent stupid draws like mousesports - FaZe and C9 - Winstrike in London
2019-02-21 09:44
Its good man
2019-02-21 09:47
Alright OP, I agree with you *to an extent.* If we were to have a different, randomized system, where high t1 is playing high t1 and lower t1 is playing lower t1, sure maybe there wouldn't be such utter domination, but.. if you are going to make it to playoffs, **you need to be able to beat the high t1 teams too.**
2019-02-21 09:47
#101
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Denmark reverseee 
101
2019-02-21 09:49
#107
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Myanmar xdcc 
So you're mad complexity gets blocked yet astralis gets a "free" pass despite playing the team that gets blocked? So maybe complexity shouldn't even be there. They wouldn't be last everytime in ELO if they managed 1 upset but clearly won't happen so why even have them in playoffs? This system is a lot better to weed out bad teams. Astralis would still make through vs better teams.
2019-02-21 09:57
#113
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China Flash_kaze 
in the first stage, ViCi(16th) upset fnatic(1st) in 1st round and they still rank the last and get a NRG(2nd) draw. What do you say?
2019-02-21 10:15
#116
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Myanmar xdcc 
Do you ever stop for a second and think? Every single team in 1-0 won their games if that isn't obvious enough for you. Why would Vici suddenly be ranked over them? They went from 14.07 to 10.43 seeded which is insane. Advantage of being low is you climb fast and drop slow. Which came into effect once they actually met teams with losses in 1-1, 2-1 AND 2-2. So yes them winning astralis actually had some impact and would've had more had they won NRG also in bo1.
2019-02-21 11:00
#128
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Myanmar xdcc 
Fnatic not astralis*
2019-02-21 11:58
I honestly arent think that
2019-02-21 10:00
You may think a Major is all about sport, but in the end it's business!! If you arrange a big tourney you want the big names in the final because it attracts more attention. Their income is much based on commercial income. Who would want Avangar vs Complexity in a Major final? Just look at how people are laughing at Krakow Major 2017 and saying it was a weak tournament. In the end it doesn't matter how you are seeded because you eventually have to beat the good teams anyway if you wanna win.
2019-02-21 10:04
mad mousesport fanboi
2019-02-21 10:05
I somewhat agree, if good teams play against worst team then bad teams play against bad teams so you got 30% good teams and 70% bad teams. If it was good to bad you would have 50% good teams and 50% bad teams
2019-02-21 10:43
navi vs liquid? "They should get some tier 1 teams against eachother"
2019-02-21 11:10
#124
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France p2l 
I think the seeding is ok for the first matchups, then it should be random. Only the results in the competition should matter, so 1-0 teams can meet any of the other 1-0 teams etc.
2019-02-21 11:22
#125
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Denmark Xipingu 
Then you haven’t understood it right, try again.
2019-02-21 11:26
#129
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Spain AEM_34 
Just don't be angry because you can't see your favourite team with seven actual good teams on the Finals
2019-02-21 12:06
#134
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Russia Vitaly59820 
I think the best seeding system is ELO seeding in 1, 2 rounds (and first round need to be Legends VS New challengers) and Buchholz system as a seeding tool in 3,4,5 rounds.
2019-02-21 13:01
#135
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Sweden Lagge15 
Isn't that the point of this system? That the best teams should have easiest way? Until 2-2 matches it will be as the first seeding. Then it might different during the 2-2 matches
2019-02-21 13:06
#142
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United States zer0skill 
The best teams should have it easier. If you're a team that's considered an underdog, earn a higher seed by winning more LANs and doing better against the better teams in practices. The reason teams like Astralis and Liquid get easier runs is because they've already proven that they're the 2 best teams in the world in other LANs and in scrims.
2019-02-22 02:06
#144
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North America r3ece 
renegades 2nd best team at major btw ur a retard if u dont see it
2019-02-22 02:23
#148
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United States ferric 
This is actually normal.. lmao in real sports and shit they always have the lowest seeds face the highest seeds. This ensures that the two highest seeds which are most likely to give the greatest and closest and most interesting matchup show up as late as possible. Its actually a genius move from ESL, that along with the Best of 3s for the decider matchups, the minor 3rd place play in, the production behind the event and the crowd and Katowice events in general are shaping this up to be the best major in CSGO history period. (Or full stop as y'all complicated Europeans call it).
2019-02-22 08:46
#151
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Russia Vitaly59820 
lmao It is not. It's unfair for some teams, because players can mistake in ELO seeding. They can increase chance of the second worst team on tournament to go through by putting it on 1st place (I mean fnatic). If we will consider Hltv ranking perfect: 1 Astralis 2 Liquid 3 Natus Vincere 4 NRG 5 FaZe 6 NiP 7 Cloud9 8 Renegades 9 ENCE 10 MIBR 11 Vitality 12 BIG 13 AVANGAR 14 G2 15 HellRaisers 16 compLexity 8 best teams need to advance to playoff. You can do test. For example MIBR (#10) will go through only because MIBR is 4th team in ELO seeding.
2019-02-22 09:35
#149
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United States JustBitsy 
I think its okay to do a seeding for playoffs based solely on your tournament rating based on how well you played. That would prevent the best teams that perform at major from playing eachother in quarter finals for sure. But thats really it.
2019-02-22 08:52
oh so now people are crying because bad teams face BETTER teams, if they are BETTER they deserve to be in the top8, not them if Astralis is facing worse teams, it is because they are better
2019-02-22 13:04
4 teams seeding renegades 13th or lower. Joke.
2019-02-23 19:24
The entire format is stupid. Bo1's and a Bo3 final, its shit.
2019-02-23 19:28
This seeding blows. Some teams that have shown nothing is seeded too high. Faze, nrg (beat no one good in challengers) and big.
2019-02-24 04:49
#170
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Brazil llskll 
Legends versus chalengers thats it.
2019-02-24 04:53
The seeding is dumb but teams who got to the 2-0 had good matchups trying to reach playoffs so at least we had some good series for the teams who are playing well at this major.
2019-02-24 04:58
#173
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Brazil hugoooo 
That's exactly the point and that's how a fair system works.
2019-02-24 05:14
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