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Is this player legit?
Germany aitscheltihwih 
Hello guys, I just played against a dude in CS:GO and I felt that he was cheating. I found his youtube and saw this: youtube.com/watch?v=kS6zqrzNwG0 The deagle shots in the beginning, that cant be legit, right?
2019-02-21 16:14
#3
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Russia armando_o 
legit
2019-02-21 16:19
#131
shox | 
Czech Republic Jostra 
Silver crosshair placement , silver movement but he is legit.Shots are not even anything that impressive.
2019-02-21 23:34
#132
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Russia armando_o 
u gold nova stop shit her
2019-02-22 09:13
#148
shox | 
Czech Republic Jostra 
0/8
2019-02-22 14:28
#150
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Russia armando_o 
14/88
2019-02-22 15:14
#4
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United States t0rror 
Definitely hacks he moves like a retard but he uses the trajectory of his spray really weird he doesn't even start from the head prob walls But these shots are really shit so if this is the best he has than this must just be luck so kinda conflicted on him hacking
2019-02-21 16:20
Yeah I agree, he looks like some noob with 1500 hours or whatever. But then again, if I think about myself, I do move pretty bad at times aswell and Im still a very decent player.
2019-02-21 16:22
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United States t0rror 
If he had 1500 hours hed move better than that.
2019-02-21 16:23
Yeah, probably true :D
2019-02-21 16:24
+1
2019-02-21 17:30
At which rank did oyu encounter this player?
2019-02-22 09:25
I cant tell you 100% but must have been LE-SMFC. In post #37 I "admit" that the player shown is me and that I made the thread to see if people can dinstinguish between an avrg LEM (me) and a cheater or if they cant judge someone rank.
2019-02-22 13:20
Ah ok. I was gonna post that judging from the movement and enemy reactions (or lack of) it's a Gold Nova/MG level game and these frags are nothing special and they're possible because the enemies are shit, not because of hacks. I'm kinda surprised if that is actually LEM/SMFC.
2019-02-22 13:50
We actually got steamrolled that game and didnt play any serious, which I why I just run in there without any info or flashes and I guess jungle just arrived there and was suprised and the next 2 shots where too fast for his mates to realize its palace, idk. Im honeslty not that good or that bad in general. It was all up to my mood and mates as I would often play with GN/MG mates and on other days I was playing against SMFC and GE. And I always felt "best" at LEM, meaning thats where I kinda belonged.
2019-02-22 14:22
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Norway Skuolfi 
Flag doesn't check out.
2019-02-21 18:28
He also has this uploaded: youtube.com/watch?v=0ET4Ys2m0KI
2019-02-21 16:21
lol he's playing like silver with wallhack
2019-02-21 16:26
Okay so you are 100% sure he is walling?
2019-02-21 16:31
no,but hes movement is so bad....
2019-02-21 16:34
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Argentina robo_oner 
the people that he is playing against are dumb as fuck, he's probably arround ak or something. I don't think he's cheating
2019-02-21 17:14
+1 The guy is actually me (I havent played CSGO in like a year now though) and I was LEM at that time I think. If I recall correctly, we got rekt hard and it was lik 11:2 for the enemy or whatever. My mates gaveup, I kinda did aswell. And when I was the last alive, the enemy didnt play it very safe because of their big lead, but they where actualy pretty good. I just made this thread to see how many people falsely claim hacks on a pretty avrg LEM. Or go on to act like everyone is silver. I found in Rocket League, that people are almost always incapable of guessing ranks based on a demo. They always assume the person they watch is much worse than them and they would never make the mistakes the guy in the video makes.
2019-02-21 17:28
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Poland N1cc0 
Well, im supreme, and there is nothing wrong with dgl shots, ppl who say u cheating are prolly gold novas or lower thanks
2019-02-21 17:57
Yeah, that was what I was trying to find out. I know Im legit and Im my eyes I was am avrg LEM/SMFC. But somehow people here only claim its hacks, or a silver :D People somehow fail to judge ranks/legitness from watching a video.
2019-02-21 18:00
I thought something was up when you started defending the guy in the video, usually people who think they were hacked against tend to already "know" the enemy was a hacker. If you do this in the future you should probably not include yourself in the discussion unless your presence is demanded, otherwise you throw variables in that may change your results.
2019-02-21 18:21
True :/ But somehow I have to keep the thread alive aswell. Still an interesting read in this thread in my eyes. Some people where actually spot on with me being totally legit, but lacking some movement in the clips shown etc. But most just acted up like its pure GN gameplay ;D
2019-02-21 18:23
lmao, tbh when I first watched it I knew you were legit, there were a lot of telltale signs that you weren't hacking. But I also thought you were GN too, tbh, it looks like GN although when it comes to cs there are even resident sleepers in SMFC.
2019-02-21 18:24
Yeah. my movement was all over the place and didnt do much thinking there, we got rekt that game and nobody cared tryharding anymore. And somehow that resulted in 3 nice shots :D
2019-02-21 18:25
lmao sounds like MM in a nutshell
2019-02-21 18:26
Yep! Cheers and gl in your games man!
2019-02-21 18:26
tyty, and keep up the good work
2019-02-21 18:27
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Argentina robo_oner 
yeah, people online are quick to criticize and judge based on, basically, nothing. even more so on a anonymous forum...
2019-02-21 18:27
Very true. I found this in Rocket League aswell. People just cant jusge someone skills based on videos, its so weird. In RL its pretty straight forward though: Player tend to guess right if the player they watch is ranked lower then themselfs. But if the player they watch is higher, they always feel like the guy they watch is worse as them or that they can do just the same. But in CS; even being global somehow doesnt help peope judging skilllevels. Replies in this thread range from silver to cheater XD
2019-02-21 18:32
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
Considering he didnt double switch deagle after jumping gives me info thats hes a gold nova but nothing suspicious about those shots everyone did that here and there in their life
2019-02-21 16:22
What exactly do you mean? You mean that he switches all the time but when he has the deagle out he doesnt? If yes: idk man, if this is right after the start of the round he can know nobody will be there but when he gets closer to the entrance he may suspect an enemy to push (thats the usual meetingpoint when a CT and a T push straight into palace I think.
2019-02-21 16:26
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
no,if u jump with deagle your aim is innacuare u cant shoot in next 3-4 sec :)
2019-02-21 16:27
What? Once you land you can almost immediately shoot with normal accuracy. I dont know dude, but if you say you cant shoot properly for 3-4 after jumping with a deagle, I think your opinion regarding CS isnt worth too much ;D
2019-02-21 16:28
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
lmao aight bro,just go in aimbots and try having dinamic crosshair and do what u just told me :)
2019-02-21 16:29
Why would I record myself doing that when everyone knows you dont have to wait for 3-4 SECONDS XD Thats just jilarious, sorry.
2019-02-21 16:30
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
not record just look for yourself how much innacuare u are and how long it takes for your crosshair to reset to normal position
2019-02-21 16:31
I dont have to, I have trained at aimmaps alot and I have always also jumped around instead of just standing still and shooting, you are 100% not right with this.
2019-02-21 16:32
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
aight keep missing bro i just did the thing in aimbots and it actually takes close to 4 seconds not even 3 so yea HF jumpin around and shooting
2019-02-21 16:36
I think you dont know how accuracy and the crosshair work. If you jump with a deagle in hand you can almost immediately fire with almost perfect accuracy. max 1 second inaccuracy. I dont know what you do that you cant land shots within 4 seconds after jumping, but thats still super hilarious. I was just ingame and not even 1 second afterwards the shots are just as precise as a deagle usually is /btw, deagle is never 100% accurate).
2019-02-21 16:48
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
use dynamic crosshair and see for yourself how wide your crosshair spreads and how long it takes to go back
2019-02-21 16:43
"I think you dont know how ..... the crosshair works".
2019-02-21 16:52
#39
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
you obv dont know if u think u can shoot outside of the + nova
2019-02-21 16:52
You realize you can use a devmode crosshair to perfectly see the accuracy reset of a weapon after jumping, right? And that crosshair doesnt show a 4 seconds inaccuracy after jumping at all. So Im done arguing about it with you.
2019-02-21 16:54
#41
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
u dont need shitmode to see it just change to dynamic crosshair and ull see,with it u use it and remember the timing for when u play static crosshair,ez :)
2019-02-21 16:55
Thats my point, the normal dynamic CH doesnt do the same. Thanks for proofing my point ;D
2019-02-21 16:55
#43
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
then your game is fucked up,i use to be like u thinking u can shoot after jump but u cant,just lookw hen Niko plays deagle why he always double switches after a jump from some ramp
2019-02-21 16:56
dude pls stop. you're VERY bad player
2019-02-21 18:14
#79
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
uninstall nova
2019-02-21 18:16
#9
CHEF-KOCH | 
Germany d0lle 
looks legit
2019-02-21 16:23
Okay, thanks for your opinion!
2019-02-21 16:26
He is legit dude didnt see anything shady or out of ordinary
2019-02-21 16:28
Alright, as I said, I jsut felt weird about him, not saying he is 100% hacking.
2019-02-21 16:28
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Turkey HOTDUDE 
he's movement sucks idk
2019-02-21 16:30
i know alot ppl where the movement is a lot worse then there aim
2019-02-21 16:57
This applies to almost everyone from DMG-SMFC. I rarely saw people with good movement until I went to SMFC/global.
2019-02-21 17:39
thats true. move is important but will u not help in a aim duell
2019-02-21 17:45
Im not an active player anymore, but I always found that aimwise after LE it doesnt get much better, but people start moving better, better nades, more teamplay and unusual angles etc.
2019-02-21 17:49
teamplay is still shit in every elo
2019-02-21 17:51
Viewmodel gave me cancer
2019-02-21 16:32
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Finland Masentunut 
+1 almost vomited
2019-02-22 13:31
#29
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Poland swstk 
He's german, so probably cheating
2019-02-21 16:32
: | polska not so wise
2019-02-21 16:37
#30
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Europe DiVbAnG 
100% this is ur own shitty youtube channel with shitty frags that you try to use hltv for exposure. garbage aim and spray control. disliked. and reported for promoting your shitty channel.
2019-02-21 16:33
Close enough ;D Actually I just read about a guy that was legit and some youtube made a video about him where he is supposedly cheating based on that dudes videos. So I thought: I never was the flashiest player and I spent almost no time editing videos, but I had those videos still online. So I went here to post these to see how many idiots actually would think that an avrg LEM is cheating. Havent played CS in a year basically btw. But the most amazing thing I learned is that people actually cant judge ranks for shit and always think they are so badass ;D I get whypeople talk about gold nova movement though, the deagleclip was ina game we where loosing hard and nobody really felt like we will win so I just jumped in there like an idiot and somehow got the 3 deagleshots.
2019-02-21 16:48
his movement is really bad for that kind of aim and no doubt he is using a shitty mouse with hacks ignoring the fact that the guy might just be the OP
2019-02-21 16:49
"ignoring the fact that the guy might just be the OP " As I stated in #37, you are right with that assumption! Though I use a G403 and never used hacks, I actually think the stuff shown are shots everyone on LE or better will do from time to time.
2019-02-21 17:30
even i use g403 but in that clip i saw pixel skipping so i thought you had a shitty mouse maybe your sensitivity is higher than usual so that might be the case in terms of that clip tbh your movement is really bad... for me (smfc) those were shots i could hit easily but with that kind of movement i thought those shots weren't legit just based on the movement
2019-02-21 18:22
I think its the recording/demo, I honestly dont have a high sense (1.5@800dpi). I move pretty erratic at times though as I learned shooters with Unreal Tournament etc.
2019-02-21 23:30
#46
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Armenia gr1nch 
its ur account u jerman haxor
2019-02-21 17:15
#37 :) Legit though (not saying Im insane, every avrg LEM can do what you see in the videos).
2019-02-21 17:29
#66
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Armenia gr1nch 
i didnt even watch ur highlights
2019-02-21 17:53
I dont have any highlights POGGERS
2019-02-21 17:57
possibly the most disgusting viewmodel ever seen, had to turn it off insta
2019-02-21 17:30
+1 :D
2019-02-21 17:38
#54
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Yes that was me in that vid. All legit. Next time I play againts u I’ll play like a silver so I’m more on ur level. Ty buddy.
2019-02-21 17:42
#37 Fake news? ;D
2019-02-21 17:46
#56
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Norway efixoff 
He is so legit af, moves like a noob
2019-02-21 17:45
#37, true detective (yes, I moved like a noob there) Good catch!
2019-02-21 17:47
#58
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Poland Fanowskyy 
Well when you see that the other team just rushed on B Mirage, then no wonders that he/you got 4 kills, nothing unusual about the shots, the only good ones IMO. are the Deagle 1taps.
2019-02-21 17:46
That sums it perfectly fine, good job! (Yes thats me, yes im an avrg LEM, but inactive for roughly a year now).
2019-02-21 17:48
#63
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
LEM? Seriously? Why do you move like GN2?
2019-02-21 17:50
Hmm are we only talking about the first clip with deagle? We got rekt that and we wanted to get over with the game and we where just chatting alot, not caring about movement, position etc.. I mean, I run straight into palace without any serious crosshairplacement and peek without caring if I die or not. Besides that, I have always done those little jumps followed up by sneaking or actually moving with little jumps, it often seemed to confuse enemies, thats why I tend to do it in spots where an enemy might here me. Besides that, my movement was totally fine for my rank. When I was active I could do most important jumps, such as going from mirage window onto B short and ladderroom, the old jump on Nuke to get on the roof, some jumpboosts, like the one on cache B site where you jumpboost from site to heaven and so on. Most people cant judge someone ranks based on a video and movement anyways. They always call everyone silver, because they think when they play they are so much better, but they arent :D
2019-02-21 17:57
Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day.
2019-02-21 17:50
Yeah, I think he is totally legit, thanks for your opinion!
2019-02-21 18:10
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Netherlands @Deji 
That's you nt
2019-02-21 17:58
#37
2019-02-21 18:10
#71
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Sweden ElGatoLibre 
legit
2019-02-21 17:59
+1 Good call
2019-02-21 18:12
he's legit. you can literally see the same kind of crosshair movements from him while he's running in the A apps but he's really bad tho
2019-02-21 18:10
Good catch! One of the rare users here that uses his brain I guess :) (read #37, the guy isnt someone I played against, its me. Just wanted to see how good/bad people here are at distinguishing between an avrg LEM and a cheater (I consider myself as avrg LEM).
2019-02-21 18:12
yeah dude fix your movement
2019-02-21 18:16
Too late :D Inactive for almost a year. And the clip was from matches we lost hard and I didnt care. I was planning on making a better montage etc after I stopped playing, but had an HDD crash and all my demos and recordings I did got deleted :( Had alot of better clips than the ones shown, but never compiled them into a video. But still, my movement was definately the worse part of my skills.
2019-02-21 18:19
you should play tetris or something, cs is not your game
2019-02-21 18:27
:) Reply needs to have actual content
2019-02-21 18:39
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Italy steven513 
He could still be legit, just has pasha-like movement
2019-02-21 18:27
+1 on spot! Though Im not sure waht you mean with "pasha-like movement"? Does that mean its bad, its good or its... weird?
2019-02-21 18:33
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Italy steven513 
Bad, pashabiceps is known for having bad movement, just making a comparison
2019-02-21 23:17
Alright :D Yeah as I answered to others already, I know movement is my weakness, particularly in the clips shown, as we lost those games pretty hard and we went in pretty yolo without caring about movement or winning. So yeah, you are right, the guy (me) is obviously legit but with crippled movement. (my roots are in UT, quakle, tribes etc, so I naturally struggle with slower movement.
2019-02-21 23:19
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Kuwait GoBIGorGoHOME 
legit, he doesnt seem that good tbh
2019-02-21 18:27
Perfect. The player is an avrg LEM (me) that usually is somewhere between god and bot. LEM usually know what to do, but dont know how or mess it up. MM in a nutshell.
2019-02-21 18:34
+1
2019-02-21 18:55
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Norway FJooD 
" I found his youtube" don't you mean "Do I look legit in my video"?
2019-02-21 18:34
#37, so yes! Not fishing for compliments though, I already stated I know Im not more than an avrg LEM and that in my eyes everyone on LE+ should be able to hit shots like those from time to time.
2019-02-21 18:36
wtf its me
2019-02-21 18:34
You are me?! :O
2019-02-21 18:36
thats my youtab channel wtf
2019-02-21 18:37
Its not :( I SUE YOU!
2019-02-21 18:38
if this was cliped before the elo reset than yea ,u would be LE/LEM although i think u should practice shoulder peek
2019-02-21 18:36
There was an eloreset? :O Im inactive for almost a year now. In the clip we where loosing hard and didnt trxhard anymore, thats why I just run in with the deagle and shoot instead of shoulderpeeking/gaining info or waiting for flashes. Basically 3 shots with a mix of good aim and luck :) Thanks for your input!
2019-02-21 18:37
i know that the part when u missed the guy at stairs and he somehow doesn’t kill u u took a while to react a cheater would spin back instantly after he heard the shot (if he legit hacking)
2019-02-21 18:44
Yeah, that situation was kinda cringy. I checked most corners, even underpass to prevent someone coming from their when I push A, but didnt look stairs. He shot and I instantly turned around, when my mouse slide down the mousepad, which is why my aim fails miserably on that kill :D But well spotted and well thought!
2019-02-21 18:46
thanks i actually have to watch it a few time and i know u were legit even with the bad movement but u crosshair placement were not bad (for LEM ofc)
2019-02-21 18:50
Ohh yeah, my placement is usually very good, when Im focused at least. I need that to replace my lack of movement :D
2019-02-21 18:59
well.. i figured it took few months for me to practice my crosshair and my movement the funny thing is i’m GN3 but i can win aim duels against high skilled player (like GE or SMFC)
2019-02-21 19:10
Thats a good base. That usually means you are a natural aimer. If you now work on your positioning (!) and crosshairplacement and care about your mates, you will climb ranks pretty quick I think.
2019-02-21 20:56
no one's gonna talk about his shitty viewmodel?
2019-02-21 18:36
Dont judge! :( I play CS with 1280x1024 stretched, but the recording are done in FullHD and the viewmodel is indeed really really bad on that. Looks like quake-settings.
2019-02-21 18:40
here the catch watch it at 1024-960 (3:4)
2019-02-21 18:42
#104
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Ukraine santiniwe 
it's impossible game
2019-02-21 18:37
Wut? :D
2019-02-21 18:40
#114
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Ukraine santiniwe 
my english so bad ^_^ it*
2019-02-21 18:45
ofc its legit hahha hes just a lucky dogshit player
2019-02-21 18:42
let’s put it this way the guy have a bayonet and gun skins do u actually think that the guy would risk his skins and get banned just because he want to win game thru cheat ...yea i don’t think so
2019-02-21 18:58
You know nothing. I have genuinely seen COUNTLESS of cheaters with knives ect. in mm. I will even give you an example: steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611984479.. Played with him and he 1000% has wallhack and also posses the ability to crash an mm server whenever he wants as he showed me They know they won't get banned. It's that simple
2019-02-21 23:28
Yeah I have to agree with you here, skins arent really a sign. I remember that vac ban tracker site where they also listed banned profiles with expensive skins on it. And I played against cheaters with 100-1000€ inventories that later got banned aswell. One might think people will just buy a new account to cheat on it, but in reality, many dont care and cheat on their mains. Which is good for us, cause then they at least loose their skins.
2019-02-22 13:26
Yea i agree.
2019-02-23 12:52
stopped watching as soon as i saw the viewmodel
2019-02-21 23:19
Cant blame you ;D
2019-02-21 23:25
trash player and legit
2019-02-21 23:27
average player, nothing else
2019-02-21 23:31
100% accurate, well done!
2019-02-22 13:27
no one has the worst movements than you
2019-02-22 09:27
Okay :)
2019-02-22 13:30
ds sprays
2019-02-22 13:34
nothing weird with that?
2019-02-22 13:36
nice 1 like and 81 dislikes pretty good start for a youtube career
2019-02-22 13:53
1. Get some lucky shots 2. Post to hltv about 'you playing against a cheater'. 3. Profit jeez
2019-02-22 13:57
yeah its just generally bad play and not very good peeks but those one deags were incredibly crisp and quick so really if someone said this guy is hacking, i could believe it but again people get lucky...usually shit movement and shit aim go together /shrug
2019-02-22 14:28
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