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AUG IS KILLING THE SCENE
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
This major is a joke
2019-02-21 19:54
#1
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Europe stitchz 
+1111
2019-02-21 19:55
#50
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United States lumpy seal 
Why do people complain about the Aug so much? It has less rng which is great.
2019-02-21 20:49
Less RNG is a good thing, but people hate it because it is so easy to spray scoped in. It takes 0 compensation and makes even mediocre player look good. unscoped it is fine- A more accurate m4 with a bit more recoil.
2019-02-21 20:59
Wrong, When you scope it cuts you sens aswell as the pattern so you actually need to comp the same amount in terms of mouse movement, however its much more accurate.
2019-02-21 21:01
doesnt feel that way, i just hold m1 and 5 bullets hit almost dead center. and if the enemy isnt dead within the first 10 bullets, youre dead anyway. Also, isnt the sens affected by the zoom_sensivity_ratio_mouse?
2019-02-21 21:03
Yes but the higher you set the sens the harder it is to be accurate just like when you dont scope so in reality it really doesnt make spraying easier, it actually makes tapping easier as you have a much bigger target. 1.0 zoom sens isnt the same as your normal EDPI just to let you know.
2019-02-21 21:08
i know. its very subjective, but to me it feels much easier to compensate.
2019-02-21 21:16
Its easier to aim, but the spray the same.
2019-02-21 21:17
the pattern, but the size isnt. and with the right zoom sens it is even easier.
2019-02-21 21:17
The pattern get smaller but your sens gets lower meaning you have to pull your mouse down, left then right roughly the same amount.
2019-02-21 21:20
i know that, but you can adjust the sens so your zoom sens is exactly the same as your noral sens. (you have to calculate it with the fov).
2019-02-21 21:46
But then due to you FOV being cut when you zoom it becomes extremely hard to be accurate.
2019-02-21 21:46
maybe i understand you wrong but you can ajust zoom sens so that it is exactly the same as the unscoped sens. so that 1cm movement of the mouse is the same no matter if youre scoped in or not. most people dont do that, too much word since you have to calculate your new sens everytime you chenge your standard sens. The point is that the aug is very powerful as it is because there is very predictable spread and moderate recoil. Im not for a nerf, but bumping the price up to 3200 would be ok i think. It was always that good in the last years, it just wasnt used. Now that people see the advantages they might buy 1 or 2 even if the price is increased. what do you think?
2019-02-22 12:06
No, give the SG a normal pattern and make the AK more accurate to compete better with the aug.
2019-02-22 12:57
I feel like the ak and m4 sj´hould be the main guns and the sg and aug for people holding long angles. If the aug and SG are better than the main rifles, the ak and m4 become obsolete...
2019-02-22 13:24
AK and M4 need accuracy similar to aug and sg, so you can just choose whether you want a scope for a bit of extra money, or not. on mostn maps in this game, like half of the fights you can take are outside accurate range of AK and M4 and it just turns into big RNG battle who lucks the first headshot while counterstrafing or crouch spamming. with aug and sg, on dust2 long, if you aim at someones head, he will die.
2019-02-23 10:06
i always thought the ak and m4 needed an accuracy buff.
2019-02-23 10:36
OMEGALOL you are funny
2019-02-21 21:11
No, im telling you straight facts, the scope doesnt make the spray easier, it actually makes accuracy better.
2019-02-21 21:13
the scope reduces recoil by 25% and reduces first bullet inaccuracy by about half. it doesnt reduce recoil variance and recoil angle variance.
2019-02-23 10:09
Back to reddit with u
2019-02-21 21:14
#114
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United States lumpy seal 
I don't have a reddit account :( Also why not just increase ak first bullet accuracy? I feel that would be a skill-based way to buff ak and make it easier to compete with Aug.
2019-02-22 19:35
kill
2019-02-22 19:41
#116
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United States lumpy seal 
??? Reply needs to have actual content
2019-02-22 19:41
then people with mediocre aim who rely on ak's randomness to get kills while spraying will get rekt more often.
2019-02-23 10:09
#99
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Portugal nakbarone 
People don't like change... They will eventually embrace it so don't worry
2019-02-21 21:48
+1 rng is shit
2019-02-22 17:53
#2
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Brazil bcmmelo 
Argentinian CS is a joke. Soccer as well btw
2019-02-21 19:56
#5
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
Im so proud of your scene manito and Im cheering for MiBR. Dont be so salty and admit that this gun is far away from the old ak-m4 type of game that we all love for years. Nobody is aiming a shit.
2019-02-21 20:02
Nice you're a good manito thanks braddah! Hopefully I'll move to Argentina in 2 months or so! Love Buenos Aires!
2019-02-21 20:15
Soccer? Never heard of that word before
2019-02-21 20:04
#11
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Germany 'ezpz 
Brazil created a new word for football after the World Cup 2014 to never get remembered what happened.
2019-02-21 20:05
jajajajajaj
2019-02-21 20:10
#37
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Netherlands @Deji 
hahaha
2019-02-21 20:16
#51
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Switzerland JoGy1 
hahahhahahhahaha
2019-02-21 20:49
#14
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Poland Ryunar 
please explain your name bb
2019-02-21 20:06
#13
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Switzerland Sinneslust 
BRA71L CS is a joke
2019-02-21 20:06
#77
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Brazil erobin 
OFF: babaca do caralho ON: I don't really think that this is killing the major. The weapon is well balanced, zooming has its downsides and it has the value balance. It is fine, after all
2019-02-21 21:17
Messi >>> all Bra71l
2019-02-23 09:39
#3
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Sweden HANNE$ 
very true
2019-02-21 19:56
#4
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United States SilveryoHD 
cry more
2019-02-21 19:56
#109
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Poland Vajhro 
+1
2019-02-22 13:31
#6
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
Thanks Mr Karrigan
2019-02-21 20:03
#8
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Finland Tusku 
aug lowering the skill required on ct-sides sucks, but otherwise ive enjoyed the matches
2019-02-21 20:04
+1
2019-02-21 20:05
Its actually making so CT's can actually take fights, if it didnt have a scope it would be perfectly balance, just give the SG a regular pattern and remove the scopes from both guns.
2019-02-21 21:01
#67
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Finland Tusku 
scope removal would be nice i guess, would still be better than m4 but not too overpowered
2019-02-21 21:10
or nerf the scope so that you have to be more deliberate about when you use it something like a longer time between putting scope on and being able to shoot
2019-02-22 13:31
This.
2019-02-22 13:37
#112
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Finland Tusku 
+1
2019-02-22 13:39
#119
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China Slasher8888 
This is actually an interesting fix, never seen anyone come up with this (or some one may have but i don't know) Also i'm getting some awp nerf vibes from this
2019-02-23 09:41
#9
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Europe _EpiC_ 
It opened more tactics... plus CT is much stronger now. Ez katka
2019-02-21 20:05
but its shit to watch and shit to play and less skill needed so your points are irrelevant
2019-02-21 20:07
#17
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Europe _EpiC_ 
yeah I agree but there are so many weapons we never use so I think it's good they are trying to make more weapons available for meta instead of ak/m4 only I'm still waiting for nade buff because its damage right now is a joke.
2019-02-21 20:08
yea i agree with the weapons but its would be better if there was just another rifle without scope... just sucks after thousands hours playing everyone suddenly scoping with rifles
2019-02-21 20:11
#26
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Europe _EpiC_ 
so we buff galil and famas
2019-02-21 20:11
im fine with that but then prices will increase and then there is no rilfe alternative for low budget buys
2019-02-21 20:12
#32
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Europe _EpiC_ 
let's wait few more months and see how it pans out
2019-02-21 20:14
yea
2019-02-21 20:14
#39
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
They could add the old 1.6 m4a1 30 bullets, on/off silencer
2019-02-21 20:20
#84
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Europe _EpiC_ 
+1
2019-02-21 21:22
#12
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
It's the first time the meta for CSGO actually changed since the old pistol force buys. It's appreciated, tbh.
2019-02-21 20:05
#20
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
Nah, the game is based to play ak vs m4 with aim involve, not this shit "spray anywhere and kill"
2019-02-21 20:09
#25
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
You want a game to never evolve and just stay the same forever with the only subtle changes being people who actually devise grenade tactics? That is horrible. Force players to adapt and prove that they are actually skilled enough to keep with changes in the game. If you can't, fucking retire already. Age does matter in E-sports because the elderly are usually a lot more conserved about changes and refuse to adapt.
2019-02-21 20:13
#27
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Europe _EpiC_ 
yeah agreed, same should apply to brand new map pool. Remove all old maps see who will survive on this scene
2019-02-21 20:12
remove FCKING INFERNO PLZ
2019-02-21 20:15
#36
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Europe _EpiC_ 
d2 mirage nuke overpass cache jesus remove them all
2019-02-21 20:16
#38
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
I agree with you, but this isnt fun to play and no fun to watch in a major either.. We are playing ak vs m4 since 2002 my boy.. and the aug thing cant prove anything of your skill, its just a weapon with more armor penetration and no aim feel needed.
2019-02-21 20:17
#40
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
People from other esports have criticized CS because the only fans are those who are drastically older with no new blood coming in. You've said it yourself, "since 2002." Not only that, the game is DRASTICALLY easier to stay relevant in because all you needed to do is master a few set of guns and then practice strategy. Other scenes have seen countless players come and go with some being prodigies only to be exposed as fakes who could only do one thing. The AUG has plenty of skill even though it may or may not be drastically lower than that of the regular rifles. If the gun is so easy to use, then it's up to the pros to show another level to it
2019-02-21 20:21
#42
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
Okay but imagine this: A- You see a highlight with ak47, boom the guy killed 2 ppl and he end the round with one hilarious 1tap that everybody screamed and cheer. B- The guy is playing ct mirage with aug, he spray and kill 2 ppl, and in the end of the round he scooped and killed the last guy. MEH
2019-02-21 20:29
#43
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
You cant see a video highlight and say "he is s1mple, he is elige" the aug has not playstyle and feel to the players, you can see right now, nobody is aiming to he head, spray and kill (bcuz of the armor penetration)
2019-02-21 20:32
They could've nerfed the AUG.
2019-02-23 09:58
#16
tarik | 
Turkey ogZZ 
+1000
2019-02-21 20:08
#18
Nifty | 
Belgium LogDot 
Augstrike
2019-02-21 20:09
#19
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Poland eidetikos 
whats the difference between triple from m4, aug or ak?
2019-02-21 20:09
#23
TACO | 
Brazil fkhltv 
+1 get this fucking cod weapon out of here
2019-02-21 20:10
#28
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Germany MaibE 
I remember when everyone cried that the m4 does not one shot close range. Now CT side got a weapon for that, still everyone cries.
2019-02-21 20:12
#48
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United States SilveryoHD 
+1 FUCKING EXACTLY
2019-02-21 20:47
#69
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Germany MaibE 
<3
2019-02-21 21:11
#52
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
give us a meta where you need to aim and have skill, not like this
2019-02-21 20:50
#66
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Germany MaibE 
Bro, it does not matter at all. If you sit with your head in your monitor to have everything big or right click on your mouse. Who cares. Nobody is performing better with the aug. The only reason ppl play it is cuz of the dmg.
2019-02-21 21:09
#89
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
This means that the game is not good as it was before and my point to the topic
2019-02-21 21:37
people are crying because it is so easy to use, not because it oneshots close range.
2019-02-21 21:01
#68
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Germany MaibE 
People who suck still suck with the aug. The reason it is used is cuz of the dmg. Pros couldnt care less about the fucking zoom.
2019-02-21 21:10
"Pros couldnt care less about the fucking zoom" so fucking untrue... the scope changed the whole meta, or have you ever seen somebody hold red box on nuke with an m4 from ct base? let alone easily kill 4 people from there while not even moving. the aug will be nerfed shortly after the major, 100 %
2019-02-21 21:30
Its not DMG though. Would've been great if AUG were dmg with huge recoil. Its still a Auto rifle. Also pros love the scope. Its easier to kill with zoomed AUG than tap with ak. I dont understand why don't they nerf it?
2019-02-23 10:12
#41
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Spain all_in 
+1 true
2019-02-21 20:22
#44
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Finland herculepoirot 
Agreed
2019-02-21 20:36
+1
2019-02-21 20:43
it destroys the game overall aug is such a noob weapon
2019-02-21 20:46
#47
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United States SilveryoHD 
no its not literallly everybody was asking for a m4 upgrade because the ak is better, now it comes and everyone is is triggered
2019-02-21 20:47
Lol. Aug was just as op before.
2019-02-21 20:48
#53
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Asia BodeFuceta 
Yeah, I'm boycotting CS:AUGO until they fix this mess. And if Augalis wins this major, I'm never coming back to CS.
2019-02-21 20:50
#58
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Poland Hell2k 
3 minths ago was not? lul
2019-02-21 21:02
Games like dota change their meta every fucking month. But god forbid if the CS meta changes for once people will be crying like babies. No wonder this game is slowly dying. People refuse to see any kind of change. I don't necessarily think the AUG isn't too OP, but it's a welcome change to see more weapons used other than the M4 as CT. New maps added? People complain. New weapons added? People complain. And people wonder why Valve doesn't give this game as much attention, when the community is so incredibly stubborn towards change. Changes forces teams to adapt and develop new strategies, instead of not taking anything serious anymore like most pro's do now.
2019-02-21 21:06
#86
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Europe _EpiC_ 
heroes change... its different no? but I agree with you
2019-02-21 21:27
#61
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United States G0rd2k 
the SG is fine, but the AUG needs to be at least $100 mores
2019-02-21 21:04
+88
2019-02-21 21:05
#64
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World vacuum322 
I'm 100% sure renegades won't make it this far without aug
2019-02-21 21:07
+1 tier 3 players with tier 4 aim except jkaem and jks sometimes tier 1/2 would play deathmatch with them.
2019-02-21 21:08
#71
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Trav1s 
cancer aug
2019-02-21 21:12
#72
Jame | 
Brazil Danxd22 
You want a game with only 2 weapons? AUG and SG are in cs since 1.5, i do not understand the reason to complain so much about it.
2019-02-21 21:13
I mean it is bit boring gun but that's about it
2019-02-21 21:18
#82
Xyp9x | 
Sweden lo0u 
Just stop crying about it and learn how to play with it you noob.
2019-02-21 21:19
#85
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Netherlands Francesco01 
Its spray of aug and sg is so fucking ass i hate those guns make it 3700$ and it over ez as it is Soure: minewiki.orion
2019-02-21 21:25
But the AUG has the same spray as the M4 and has less spread so its stays more accurate through the spray than the A4 does.
2019-02-21 21:30
#117
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Netherlands Francesco01 
The spray is only accurate with scope else its ass
2019-02-23 09:36
I like how they got rid of cheaters since the AUG price buff, gj VOLVO, no1 needs to hack now, and the only ones complaining are these low sens ak and m4 players, cause now hi-sens players can scope and kill them long distance ezpz.
2019-02-21 21:38
#94
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Denmark shaekbye 
stupid answer, its a myth that long range aim with high sens is more difficault
2019-02-21 21:44
i didnt play for months and didnt check updates. did it get boosted + cheaper?
2019-02-21 21:41
only cheaper afaik
2019-02-21 21:45
I hate AUG meta, but dont worry it gona Be nerfed soon after major.
2019-02-21 21:43
#93
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Europe Jimbo__Kern 
Agree. Looks like fck cod. Bullshit...
2019-02-21 21:44
I dont like how the AUG makes long distance kills so much easier. Also if an AUG is holding an angle, its seems very hard to peek into it. I think they should increase the price of the AUG again. Players now know its a great weapon, that has its advantages over the m4. Making it more expensive should result in the AUG being picked up less. I do think itll be picked up more than before the price increase.
2019-02-21 21:48
#101
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Other fo3nixz 
just use krieg if you are t
2019-02-22 12:07
All we need is to have it cost like $4,5k.
2019-02-22 12:09
It will obviously be nerfed after the major. It doesn't need to be more expensive, only harder to spray when scoped, and maybe a 5-10% damage reduction at long distance.
2019-02-22 12:16
cry more
2019-02-22 13:26
actually i like the fact that new weapons pop up in this game all this m4 and ak shit i need some variety.
2019-02-22 13:27
#108
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Brazil Kmrqs 
Why? CT side is stronger then TR on this major? OK, it is All teams is using more AUG then M4? OK Why all players on CT side, who have an AUG on hand, when see an AK droped on the floor, trade AUG for AK? If aug is OP, why trade for ak?
2019-02-22 13:28
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