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Renegades Tier 1
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France StickyRice 
There are only 3 Tier 1 teams : Astralis, Liquid and Renegades. Try to name other tier 1 teams and i'm likely to disagree with you.
2019-02-22 13:45
#1
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Sweden DrakenIsHot 
ez for fnatic
2019-02-22 13:46
dont know what happened with them, they were close to win astralis in bo3 and now they so low wtf
2019-02-22 13:48
the wasnt close they won 1 map
2019-02-22 14:09
yeah that was so ez for astralis, right? lmao hltv.org/matches/2328808/astralis-vs-fna..
2019-02-22 14:14
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
2019-02-22 14:38
#82
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Sweden Bobinoi 
lol, think a second before writing man
2019-02-22 16:10
#83
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Finland Sopuli 
You said that "it wasnt close as Fnatic only won 1 map" By that you imply that it was easy for Astralis if it wasn't "close" But by looking at the scores of those maps, it shows that it was really close.
2019-02-22 16:11
16-9 16.2 Close?
2019-02-22 18:27
0/8
2019-02-22 18:29
#48
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Europe andy_ 
trash xizt does his job
2019-02-22 14:14
+1
2019-02-22 14:14
that's true. Reneg t1 at this moment.
2019-02-22 13:46
Flag checks out
2019-02-22 13:47
faq u
2019-02-22 13:47
Reported for bullying your countrymen)))
2019-02-22 13:50
wat
2019-02-22 13:50
#70
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United States FlagMaster 
Wat
2019-02-22 14:42
wanna fight?
2019-02-22 14:43
#72
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United States FlagMaster 
No
2019-02-22 14:49
wanna fight?😎
2019-02-22 18:34
#3
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Montenegro Kladiz 
Ence > Astralis
2019-02-22 13:46
#60
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Iceland coolest_user 
+1
2019-02-22 14:27
Navi
2019-02-22 13:46
navi tier 1
2019-02-22 13:46
#14
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France StickyRice 
Now they are not they got rekt by Liquid and lucked their way over Vitality (both pistols for NaVi)
2019-02-22 13:48
navi will be in the semi-finals imo
2019-02-22 13:50
#24
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France StickyRice 
Last Major they lucked their way with the draw, and had to face (and lost 15-32 lul) Astralis in the final. Liquid looked a bit better than them (even though they lost 15-32 to Ast as well) but faced them in semi. And FaZe after their poor 3-2 in swiss phase (Legends Stage) had to play Ast in quarters but only lost 14-16 12-16. So yeah if NaVi gets lucky with the draw then they for sure can get a top 4.
2019-02-22 13:52
there are 3 big teams in this major.navi astralis and liquid
2019-02-22 13:59
#28
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France StickyRice 
NaVi hasn't looked on par with Astralis and Liquid. These teams are MUCH better than NaVi
2019-02-22 13:59
liquid had 13-32 vs ast so navi > liquid
2019-02-22 14:01
#33
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France StickyRice 
Bad memory my friend. NaVi lost 16-9 16-6 (can't remember if they scored 9 in the first or second map, and vice versa), and Liquid lost 16-8 16-7 (same can't remember which one was first map) FaZe scored 26 rounds which was strong, but Ast too dominant obviously.
2019-02-22 14:04
ok liquid = navi you still wrong
2019-02-22 14:05
#36
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France StickyRice 
Liquid > NaVi right now obviously Yesterday EZ proved it easily, it's almost Liquid >> NaVi
2019-02-22 14:06
well navi failed only ct side on dd2 yesterday and its still only 1 game. So no ">>" for liquid. You cant prove navi isnt t1 sry
2019-02-22 14:10
#39
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France StickyRice 
AVANGAR will beat NaVi so ...
2019-02-22 14:10
navi will destroy lulquid in semis so ...
2019-02-22 14:11
#42
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France StickyRice 
NaVi 2-2 so the 2-3 isn't totally impossible
2019-02-22 14:12
you need to clean your eyes navi 2-1
2019-02-22 14:13
#6
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
Navi
2019-02-22 13:46
#7
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Indonesia Cleostar 
WTF HAPPENED WITH RENEGADES SUDDENLY BECOME TOP TIER 1 TEAM
2019-02-22 13:47
#10
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Kazakhstan Tarob 
Valve new scenario
2019-02-22 13:47
#11
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Germany Neckarstadion 
If Renegades make top 4 this major I agree but we will have to see.
2019-02-22 13:48
#12
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Russia zbogus 
avangar and navi at this event at least
2019-02-22 13:48
#17
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France StickyRice 
NaVi lul ? #14 Agree that AVANGAR is a strong Tier 2 team though
2019-02-22 13:49
#23
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Russia zbogus 
what makes rng tier 1, that they had a close game with astralis, well it wasn't really close they won their map in overtime and got destroyed on the t side of the other maps, and pls don't mention 9-6 on nuke because that's not that good in the current meta
2019-02-22 13:52
#26
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France StickyRice 
Yeah. 3-0 in challengers, 3-1 in Legends (gonna 2-0 Vitality), won one map vs Astralis. All these make them Tier 1.
2019-02-22 13:53
flag checks out
2019-02-22 14:31
#76
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Russia zbogus 
Navi got a map from astralis in Lisbon and they are currently 2-1 as well, so my point is if rng are tier 1 Navi is as well
2019-02-22 15:08
#22
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France StickyRice 
And Renegades 16-8 AVANGAR in Challengers Stage
2019-02-22 13:50
#25
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Russia zbogus 
first match for a very young team against a team who's attending this stage every time
2019-02-22 13:53
#15
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Norway PeteZz 
Navi is tier 1 70-80% og the time, but they are not as stable as Liquid and Astralis.
2019-02-22 13:49
#16
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Finland Tusku 
if renegades keep this up then sure, would love to see them play liquid
2019-02-22 13:49
Renegades are insane for sure
2019-02-22 13:50
#29
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Poland FitPolak 
Renegades matches are actually cool to watch, they're intense.
2019-02-22 14:00
just wait on mainstage they will be nervous and choke :D
2019-02-22 14:01
Aussie cs best cs
2019-02-22 14:03
#35
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Sweden BenjaT 
EZ4THEBOIS
2019-02-22 14:06
#40
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India PussyHound 
Let renegades win something before moving them to tier1. Defeating Astralis on 1 map doesnt make you tier1 . Mibr defeated astralis in a bo3 in some tournament last year ...does that make them tier1 ? No. Or atleast let them reach top4 consistently.
2019-02-22 14:11
#46
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France StickyRice 
Renegades can beat any Tier 2 team : Vitality, NaVi, AVANGAR (16-8 for RNG), etc so that either makes them the best tier 2 team, or the "lowest" tier 1 team, aka top 3 world
2019-02-22 14:14
#54
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India PussyHound 
Winning a few maps in a tournament doesn't make you top4 . They have been doing well this major but they have much to prove before they can even come close to tier1.
2019-02-22 14:16
I think they are top of tier two right now. They won't be tier one until they win something.
2019-02-22 14:17
#58
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France StickyRice 
Yeah seems fair as well
2019-02-22 14:18
They will not even qualify to top 8... quote me later.
2019-02-22 14:13
#52
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France StickyRice 
unlike FaZe they didn't lose (and even rekt) to AVANGAR
2019-02-22 14:16
#92
North America Fule 
"They will not even qualify to top 8..." -Lepojka
2019-02-22 19:13
Top 4* Typo
2019-02-22 19:26
#95
North America Fule 
XD
2019-02-22 21:37
#96
North America Fule 
Top 3* typo
2019-02-22 21:37
#45
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Europe Xentic 
renegades tier 1.5
2019-02-22 14:14
#50
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France StickyRice 
Yeah, better than every Tier 2 team, weaker than the other 2 tier 1 teams (Astralis and Liquid) Best tier 2 team, or "weakest" tier 1 team
2019-02-22 14:15
mibr omegalul
2019-02-22 14:15
They are looking solid asfk but remember that they haven't even made playoffs yet and they need to show the same form in multiple tier 1 tournaments to even start to be considered tier 1.
2019-02-22 14:16
#56
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World nakTriceps 
Never discard MIBR. Learn it.
2019-02-22 14:16
#59
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France StickyRice 
MIBR 3-16 Cloud9 C9 0-16 Astralis
2019-02-22 14:25
#61
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World nakTriceps 
Different maps. If your parameter is only this, I understand why you discarding them. Only two maps on this Major. And then, they won on Inferno against G2. We can´t discard these guys. Calm down and wait.
2019-02-22 14:27
#63
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France StickyRice 
Yeah i have MIBR qualifying for playoffs but they are clearly not contenders for the trophy, not more than Renegades
2019-02-22 14:33
#69
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World nakTriceps 
Honestly, I clearly see MIBR 2-0 Renegades in a possible playoffs.
2019-02-22 14:42
renegades is the new col, fluke
2019-02-22 18:28
#88
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France StickyRice 
More like the new Gambit ? Or at least the new Immortals ? Seriously you had to play BO3 for every qualification/elimination games, this was not the case when coL had their Major run, this is much tougher now, especially with seedings favoriting stronger names/making it even harder for underdogs ... This is maybe the toughest Major ever, but yeah AUG on the other hand is helping underdogs on CT that's true.
2019-02-22 18:30
#93
North America Fule 
So comebacks against Faze, Astralis arent proof of RNG being top tier 2 team?
2019-02-22 19:16
#57
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Russia razorVJ 
Let them win something first.
2019-02-22 14:17
#65
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Australia halyxd 
renegades have had strong performances against good teams. even coming back from 12-3 vs astralis, i think this is called for. but i may be a bit bias
2019-02-22 14:35
#67
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Russia razorVJ 
That comeback was cool, but it doesn't make them tier1. They need to win tournaments.
2019-02-22 14:41
#79
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Australia halyxd 
winning tournaments will take some time. this is a new team. Not many tournaments have come up since their start.
2019-02-22 16:03
#80
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Russia razorVJ 
I know. That's why I'm saying let them win first, then we will talk.
2019-02-22 16:08
#64
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Australia halyxd 
I never thought i'd see the day
2019-02-22 14:34
Navi looks nice but they have a big lack of firepower in Zeus and Edward
2019-02-22 14:41
tier1 only one team = astralis. tier2 - liquid/mibr. rest trash.
2019-02-22 14:50
#74
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Kazakhstan Xcreen 
they won't even earn legends spot, lul
2019-02-22 14:51
T1++= Astralis & Liquid T1 = NAVI T2= every other teams that will make playoffs
2019-02-22 14:54
#78
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World nakTriceps 
NaVi. lul
2019-02-22 15:40
One good tournament that's not even halfway through and you bump them to tier 1? k.
2019-02-22 15:10
#81
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Poland wiktorex 
lulz
2019-02-22 16:09
#84
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Australia .depuTy 
agreed
2019-02-22 16:14
T1 mibr T2 Astralis, TL, Navi
2019-02-22 18:33
T1 who?
2019-02-22 18:35
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