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shox vs coldzera ?
shox | 
Romania frosty0 
Who is better overall ? vote here: strawpoll.me/17483843
2019-02-23 00:10
cold easily
2019-02-23 00:11
Coldzera is the best CS GO player in the history. Then Cold is the right answer
2019-02-23 00:14
true, but you wrote s1mple wrong
2019-02-23 10:02
cold 2 major s1mple 0
2019-02-23 13:58
doesnt matter
2019-02-23 14:06
Yes, it does
2019-02-23 15:23
guess pronax is also better than s1mple then
2019-02-23 15:37
#111
Xyp9x | 
Denmark iRK3 
Pronax wasn't the mvp from his 3 majors, Cold was twice
2019-02-23 15:47
#124
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African Union OllieMaN 
true mvp was fnx
2019-02-23 16:59
We have a lot of player with more history than S1mple. History= Time in CS GO, skills, titles, Majors, ranking by year, Coldzera, Flusha, Olofmeister, Device, GTR, Forest etc
2019-02-23 15:48
+1
2019-02-23 23:53
#93
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Brazil IwillHelpYou2 
2019-02-23 14:30
Highlights don't mean shit
2019-02-23 16:16
I disagree. Idk
2019-02-23 16:36
#72
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Finland f0pZ 
u mean best baiter?
2019-02-23 10:08
"Coldzera is the best CS GO player in the history." Yeah only if you saw matches in 2016
2019-02-23 13:57
*and 2017 s1mple best player if u only saw matches in 2018 (and still no major win) :D
2019-02-23 15:45
#31
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Brazil manol0 
people voting for shox are trolling or just dislike cold/mibr
2019-02-23 00:41
#42
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Iceland coolest_user 
opinions men )))
2019-02-23 06:34
+1
2019-02-23 06:57
#60
NiKo | 
India antique94 
Or maybe they are shox fan? Nothing wrong to support his fvrt player
2019-02-23 09:44
yeah bruh, majors which werent won by mibr, just hate brazilians, lg, sk, mibr, brazil, portuguese speakers etc...
2019-02-23 09:49
#75
shox | 
Netherlands PasscaLl 
I am a G2 fan (and shox can be an absolute beast). But I'm also a MIBR fan, and cold is my fav player from MIBR... But I still think if both have their day shox is better. If they have normal day cold is better
2019-02-23 10:10
I hate shox and can tell you he is higher on the all time list
2019-02-27 09:50
Cold, not even a question.
2019-02-23 00:11
#3
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Brazil I_Hate_North 
Ofc cold
2019-02-23 00:11
#4
witmer | 
Hong Kong CDGplay 
Coldzera by far.
2019-02-23 00:11
#5
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Poland boltzzon 
pure aim shox game sense coldzera awp coldzera igl no idea about both
2019-02-23 00:12
#24
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Pure aim Shox? lmfao Cold in every aspect of the game is better than Shox
2019-02-23 00:25
#33
f0rest | 
United States yadda 
prob true but cold is on the decline.
2019-02-23 00:45
#49
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Brazil MrLucas 
Dou you think so? I mean, Just two days ago he carried mibr against g2 playing really well, and imo last year he dropped on hltv rank only because his team was trash (still top 10), I could be wrong but I think he at least kept his level.
2019-02-23 07:03
taco bait for cold, shox is g2 igl
2019-02-23 16:54
#127
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Brazil MrLucas 
if it is a system that works out why not? and also what have g2 reached with that? Its clear to me that g2 strongly depends on individual performances.
2019-02-23 22:25
“Decline” 1.38 rating in this major, ok
2019-02-23 07:34
cold is on the decline? and what about freaking shox LMAO...
2019-02-23 11:17
not IGLing
2019-02-23 03:14
#50
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Brazil MrLucas 
Second caller, also IGL for a short time (Fallen Just a god as IGL imo)
2019-02-23 07:04
yeah, but cold did nothing good as igl
2019-02-23 13:52
imagine actually believing cold’s aim is better than shox lmao
2019-02-23 07:47
+1 lol
2019-02-23 09:46
#64
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France 0racle 
nah m8
2019-02-23 09:55
#98
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
imagine not ironically thinking that Coldzera's aim was in any point of time better than Shoxies
2019-02-23 15:40
delusional
2019-02-27 13:17
cold, but mibr disband
2019-02-23 00:12
#7
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Brazil FanOfMibr 
ME AS BRAZILIAN have to say shox is waaay better
2019-02-23 00:12
#13
witmer | 
Hong Kong CDGplay 
0/8
2019-02-23 00:16
#91
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Brazil IwillHelpYou2 
"Brazilian"
2019-02-23 14:00
#9
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Algeria _whx4mi 
cold no doubts
2019-02-23 00:14
#10
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
What question is this?
2019-02-23 00:15
coldzera>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2019-02-23 00:15
#12
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Shox
2019-02-23 00:16
history of csgo? shox obviously
2019-02-23 00:17
expected, probably still depressed from big going 0-3
2019-02-23 00:21
expected from kick_friberg_ffs.. next are you gonna say Happy > cold? XAXAXAXA
2019-02-23 06:57
+1
2019-02-23 10:08
shox had a higher peak only because he started cheating as a reaction to flusha doing so. :( youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9Hyg57Fak&t=06s&vq.. youtube.com/watch?v=EcUKWGiRess&t=11s I don't blame him, but his peak was fake.
2019-02-23 10:30
#140
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Italy CHEBBOxxx 
lol disgusting.
2019-02-27 09:48
+1
2019-02-23 13:55
#99
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
+1
2019-02-23 15:41
#15
NEO | 
Poland k@nios 
this poll is fail because of retarded mibr fanbase
2019-02-23 00:17
#51
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Brazil MrLucas 
lol - cold 2 hltv n1, 2 majors and major mvps - Shox .... And you you think he is winning Just because of Brazilian fanbase? Sure dude
2019-02-23 07:09
#68
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
You should remember the state of CSGO when he got his best ranking. Individually he was the best but in a bad team.
2019-02-23 10:04
#128
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Brazil MrLucas 
How can you argue against that? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=all&mat.. , and if you change to big tournaments, same thing, still blaming teams? or you just want to ignore numbers and use only your partial opinion that is based only on the games you remember to judge?
2019-02-23 22:32
#135
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
When LG/SK was dominant, there was no other teams except perhaps G2 in 2016. SO yeah, Cold was best in this best team On the contrary, when shox was at his best, he didnt win as much and didnt get MVPs and didnt get higher HLTV rankings because there was 2 ultra dominant teams (NiP and Fnatic) where the palyers werent far better than him but with the results, they got ranked higher. That's as simple as this. ITs easier to shine individually, especially in HLTV rankings, in a dominant team. But no, coldzera isn't as much better as Shox used to be as the rankings suggest.
2019-02-24 15:33
#136
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Brazil MrLucas 
Well, you must remember that before winning their first major, no one considered LG a good team, much less Cold, which was unknown to non-Brazilians, so for a guy to go from a nobody to the best in the world in just 1 year, you have to admit that he was far above average, but I understand your point, but you can compare the situation of shox with that of simple for example, that even having a super dominant team like Astralis, winning all tournaments, he still managed to make good stats and even win the number 1 on the hltv
2019-02-25 08:58
#16
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Spain akproxx 
cold shox killed his own career and skills too much ego and too lazy
2019-02-23 00:18
#53
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
That doesnt mean hes worse than Cold...
2019-02-23 07:29
#17
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Norway Torsken_ 
I'mma have to say Scream
2019-02-23 00:18
Shox by far
2019-02-23 00:19
shox has/had more potential than shox imo but because of his ego and the ego of all the french scene is so fucked up he wasted his potential a little. same with kennyS. i think both kennyS and shox could have been number 1 players in some years but the french team almost never had a consistent top 3 team.
2019-02-23 00:20
cold ez
2019-02-23 00:21
cold had a better teams shox has always done good against LG/SK/MiBR beating them 7/10 times on lan in 2017 and taking LG in their prime to 5 maps and beating them in a bo3 cold had fallen to turn back to, then fallen had fer, then he had fnx who has shox had? in 2016, ScreaM, other than that, ShitZz, RpK, and botyy. 2017, an unmotivated kennyS, a slumping apEX, and a brooding NBK shox > cold
2019-02-23 00:21
unmotivated kennys that still hard carried them to any decent result they had
2019-02-23 00:42
Kenny is a gawd my fren
2019-02-23 03:12
#23
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Sweden WhisperingEye 
Aim- shox IGL- shox Overall - coldzera
2019-02-23 00:23
#25
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Brazil davidzor 
Atm = Cold Overall = Cold At a high peek = Shox
2019-02-23 00:27
Tbh i'm tired of seeing this "at their peak" argument, as if it makes them good
2019-02-23 07:00
#65
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France 0racle 
it shows what they're capable of under good conditions
2019-02-23 09:56
#102
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Overall in csgo its close, but i as a Shox fan would give it to Cold, im infuriated with Shox's decisions. But overall cs shox is the 3rd greatest player of all time, tied with NEO, ( first 2 are F0rest and GTR ) He was the best cs:s player of all time and also one of the greatest in csgo.
2019-02-23 15:42
shox has better mechanics, and feels like he’s little more talented in general cold had greater team, better feeling of game, more versatile as IGL - both are crap probably due to shox laziness and unwillingness to progress & work for greater good, I would say that cold is definitely better feeling bad for shox, such a talent wasted ;c
2019-02-23 00:36
+1
2019-02-23 10:06
#27
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United States jay_320 
Shox is the best mid-round player I've ever seen play the game. No contest. Cold overall though just has a ridiculous all around skill set.
2019-02-23 00:38
shox.
2019-02-23 00:39
Cold, next question pls
2019-02-23 00:40
#30
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Switzerland shox_ 
shox
2019-02-23 00:40
#36
shox | 
Romania frosty0 
this is probably some of the best proof anyone could ever ask for. ty
2019-02-23 00:56
#52
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Brazil MrLucas 
They even have the same amount of games and If search for big events insted its prety much the same, I know that stats are not everything but the diference is such that I cant really understand how people think shox is better
2019-02-23 07:16
#54
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United States jay_320 
It's pretty incredible Twistzz is the 3rd highest rated player in majors. Ahead of Niko, Snax, Autimatic, Flusha, Device etc etc That's pretty good company to keep.
2019-02-23 07:31
#80
shox | 
Romania frosty0 
on 16 maps only so it's not that relevant
2019-02-23 10:17
#119
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United States jay_320 
Actually 16 maps is a pretty good sample considering we are talking about a twice a year major.
2019-02-23 16:21
cold is known as baitzera, shox as shoxiejesus. You got your answer
2019-02-23 00:51
baitzera was top1 for two consecutive years shox none. you got your answer
2019-02-23 03:18
Who cares the HLTV rank, its all about dead statistics. Shox gives CSGO his magic, like forest. They are old legends. Cold 1st apparence 2k16. Bye
2019-02-23 09:30
baitzera baited his way into the top20 LUL
2019-02-23 13:56
Pure talent shox Literally everthing else cold Cold>shox
2019-02-23 06:31
correct answer shox when hes not running in every round like a retard and plays fully focused one of the hardest players to match against and one of the few together with players like s1mple who are able to carry whole games with their plays. while coldzera is an extremely disciplined and aware player who puts in focus in every single game and it shows, but he rarely wins against tier 1 teams by himself.
2019-02-23 10:13
#103
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
+1
2019-02-23 15:43
#43
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Israel asafborger 
CSS : shox CSGO : baitzera
2019-02-23 06:45
#46
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Canada Surzz 
shox skill wise coldzera consistent wise
2019-02-23 06:59
#48
Jame | 
Portugal gazav 
rekt results xD
2019-02-23 07:02
Cold is way better, anyone who disagrees is a fanboy.
2019-02-23 07:32
#57
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Japan milliaNCS 
shox doesnt have basic mathematics. Its a big handicap in CS competition. There are differences from the team mates around them, but I think that the difference in the number of victories will determine the value as a player as it is. I know both kennyS and shox are strong as players, but they can not win in this competition. I guess I will not be able to do it anymore. HAHAHA
2019-02-23 07:43
#63
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Kazakhstan sundby 
even though cold is a monkey that needs TACO to play really good, shox is a completely backstabber with 0 opportunity to be better than cold. also Vitality>2Gamers.
2019-02-23 09:52
baitzero
2019-02-23 09:58
Well current? Overall track record? Prime value?
2019-02-23 10:05
#73
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North America AlanSmith 
2008 - shox 2009 - shox 2010 - shox 2011 - shox 2012 - shox 2013 - shox 2014 - shox 2015 - shox 2016 - coldzera 2017 - coldzera 2018 - coldzera it seems people have forgotten how good shox was from 2008 to 2016
2019-02-23 10:09
#85
shox | 
Belgium MatiKK_ 
+1
2019-02-23 13:53
#104
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
+1 this is a thread for csgo only though, and 90% here havent even witnessed his 2016 form so it's hard for them to compare
2019-02-23 15:45
#107
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North America AlanSmith 
people have too short a memory
2019-02-23 15:46
#108
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
nah just newfags
2019-02-23 15:46
#109
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North America AlanSmith 
yeah that's too
2019-02-23 15:46
this
2019-02-23 23:55
Lol i am not Coldzera fan, but anyone saying shox is clueless retard that should never watch pro scene again. Taco is closer to shox than shox is to Coldzera
2019-02-23 10:10
#78
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North America AlanSmith 
watching cs since 2016?
2019-02-23 10:14
completely untrue anyone who ever played at a decent level himself will easily see how much talent shox has. when hes focused his aim is pretty much pixel perfect and hes extremely aware of his surrounding.
2019-02-23 10:15
#105
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
ur dumb as fuck, respect the 3rd greatest player of all time newfag, Shox was considered a top 3 individual player literally since 2008 to 2016.
2019-02-23 15:45
#77
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Slovenia Josip09 
Right now? Cold. Shox isn't even top 10 rn
2019-02-23 10:13
All time-Shox Currently/past few years-Cold Shox was greatest source player and a consistent top 10 player in the beginning of csgo.
2019-02-23 10:21
#87
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
the best player in the world said Coldzera is the greatest of all time in CS:GO. Say no more?
2019-02-23 13:56
Richard ''shox'' Papillon is the best to ever touch CS. You silvers, cunts, dickheads, who still don't really know what this life is even for, why they are existed and who created them, don't have really much to say as your potato brains explain it all. SHOX is just incomparable. Not with aim, nor igling, nor overall skill, nor nothing, to any player. He is just simply the best. And, to your own information, dickheads potato brains, coldzera is the worst player to touch the game, fucking baiter, fucking silver, fucking trash aimer, and a real cunt in real life. Get a life you fucking stupid shits.
2019-02-23 14:38
0/8 try again
2019-02-23 15:39
who cares for your opinions. Truth is hard to accept. go to hell cunt
2019-02-23 16:49
Reported and its not a opinion but a fact that cold is better. /closed
2019-02-23 17:39
even taco is better than shox lmao
2019-02-23 15:41
#101
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Brazil fuNNa 
cold eZ
2019-02-23 15:41
#110
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Germany Fabbsen 
2014 to 2015 easily shox 2016 Cold a bit over shox since 2017 so easy for Cold
2019-02-23 15:46
#115
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Yeah but indiviual wise 2016 Shox was at least on par on him, look at Shox was ranked 6th, Cold 1st, but Shox played with Smithzz, Rpk and Bodyy while Cold had a much much better team that allowed him to succeed, overall watching them both at their best in 2016 Shox was better individually.
2019-02-23 15:52
#116
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Germany Fabbsen 
Thats why i said shox is close behind him as shox was a beast 2016 aswell
2019-02-23 16:07
#113
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Shox is the 3rd greatest cs player off all time. Best cs:s player of all time and around top 4-9 in csgo of all time. Comparing him with Coldzera who sprung into relevance mid 2015 is just dumb. Shox has been considered a top 5 individual player all the way thru 2008- 2016. Coldzera has been better the last few years and he is looking to build a legacy career like Shox, but currently really isnt close to that. But average form since both sprung onto the scene- Aim and mechanics - Shox Gamesense- Coldzera Clutch- Shox Midround- Shox Reactions- Coldzera Motivation and commitment- Coldzera
2019-02-23 15:54
Very well wrote.
2019-02-23 23:59
#137
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Sweden nabudareel 
Bravo, But you are explaining it in front of 10y0 Kids :)
2019-02-25 09:04
coldzera is only better at camping. It's the only thing he knows, plus baiting. Otherwise, shox is the best of all time, to whom ever has a mind. Put your statistics in your ass and squeeze it carefully so that you can remember. shox is way way far to be comparable to any of your sluts.
2019-02-27 09:44
#143
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Coldzera is better in the categories ive mentioned, gamesense as in iq he is better than shox, shox has an unreal intuition and feel of the game but in terms of calculations and this kind of gamesense cold is better. Reactions is self explanatory, and commitment Cold is better for sure knowing the way Shox functions qnd how his motivation fluctuates. I am a fan of Shox, but i still cant see him above gtr and f0rest, it can hwppen in the future if he again hits close to his peak ( like in 2016 )
2019-02-27 13:14
being a fan or not being a fan put this in your ass as it doesnt change anything, squeeze your opinion and put it in your ass carefully and slowly. cold is a fuckign silver and baiter and no way near shox's level nor anyone in the game, get some sense first then learn how to talk. cry is free
2019-02-28 22:37
Cold probably lol.
2019-02-23 15:50
#117
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Brazil spaark1 
I think cold is better overrall but shox is insane. I'll never forget that grand final for the esl pro league s3, shox went NUTS, like jeez man wtf he won 2 or 3 1x4 clutches... he's crazyyy
2019-02-23 16:15
#123
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Netherlands @Deji 
Cold easy Shox was insane
2019-02-23 16:55
shox is nobody next to cold lol, not even close
2019-02-23 17:41
#134
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
#113
2019-02-24 00:22
Cold reminds me of a 2013 GeT_RiGhT, really good spray, great lurking and fantastic timing.
2019-02-23 23:57
#133
vsm | 
Brazil hNkV 
Coldzera with taco = Miracle Coldzera without taco = car without gas
2019-02-24 00:01
#139
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Italy CHEBBOxxx 
fat coldzera best player in the world by far, even more impactful than s1mple. gym coldzera, between #5 - #10 .. quite irrilevant
2019-02-27 09:47
Shox has a lot of talent, but Cold has as much talent but 100x more dedicated.
2019-02-27 09:50
#144
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Youre actually clueless about cs or a newfag if u think cold has the same amount of talent as shox
2019-02-27 13:16
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