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Y NOT USE $3300 AUG BEFORE?
North America cake1 
The AUG was unchanged for over 4 years! Why didn't you use it when it was $3300?
2019-02-23 00:16
cause its nooby
2019-02-23 00:17
#2
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Canada top_zozzle 
shroud used it so there was extreme negative stigma
2019-02-23 00:18
+1 only reason i didnt touch it, now that shroud quit cs i started with aug))😎
2019-02-23 00:30
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Canada top_zozzle 
😎 xaxaxa shroud stoopid xaxax 😎
2019-02-23 01:26
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United Kingdom Kingcuz 
because it was 3300
2019-02-23 00:18
after major 3500 LUL
2019-02-23 00:18
noob gun, no skill no fun
2019-02-23 00:19
nt matchamking gay xD
2019-02-23 00:21
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Poland itsdavvid 
aug has: -wider spray pattern -lower movement speed -higher cost (only 50$ but still) than m4 so in theory, m4 should be the noobier gun because it's easier to use for new players not even bringing up the m4a1-s
2019-02-23 00:25
when not scoped, scoped precision is almost good as awp
2019-02-23 00:27
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Poland itsdavvid 
this isnt cod tho you dont need to scope every time you shoot and its actually better to play unscoped for most of the time to get used to the gun
2019-02-23 00:55
that’s a failed argument because they buy it over the m4 specifically TO scope and take long range duels though...
2019-02-23 07:51
Holding one angle on a long range without scope is too hard
2019-02-23 13:19
+close range 1 hit kill
2019-02-23 16:26
#37
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United States n0rdie 
I think it has even better accuracy then the awp accually. Kind of retarded tbh. Ak m4 aug sg scout and awp should be 100% accurate
2019-02-23 01:28
#42
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Czech Republic @me 
It's more accurate than awp when scoped and you are crunching afaik
2019-02-23 07:09
the firerate is bigger
2019-02-23 00:50
#67
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
They are the same
2019-02-23 10:17
#31
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Yugoslavia plsnopermaban 
aug has way easier spray. first like 15 bullets the spray control is straight down and after that it's like slightly to the right for a few bullets then back to wear u were after the 15 bullets
2019-02-23 01:22
#68
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Just like ak?
2019-02-23 10:17
#87
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Yugoslavia plsnopermaban 
ak isnt straight down for 15 bullets lmao. its down for like 6 and then to the right and left
2019-02-23 19:11
...aaand it has a scope, which changes everything. Makes it easier to hold angles, easier to control spray, makes spotting heads too ez...
2019-02-23 07:40
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allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
See ropz tweet, cts now has good chance to hold angles. Usually people with good aim just prefires spots and there are no chance for ct to hold sites. Now people has to flash people out.
2019-02-23 10:20
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Germany cucKing 
because ct economy is rough and those 200 dollars were better spent on utility
2019-02-23 00:21
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Canada top_zozzle 
who needs utility when you have an autosniper?
2019-02-23 00:25
smart players do
2019-02-23 00:29
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Canada top_zozzle 
seized and xizt disliked this comment
2019-02-23 01:26
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Japan Getp0x0st 
im not banned btw :)
2019-02-23 07:24
#48
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Japan Getp0x0st 
add this account to ur list btw
2019-02-23 07:25
nah, in fact i'll take your alts off, attention seeker
2019-02-23 07:27
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Japan Getp0x0st 
Nice try libtard but I archived it 0x0.st/z-rJ.png
2019-02-23 07:34
Ok? Are you somehow famous now because i called you an incel/edgelord on my profile that maybe 3 people have seen? no one gives a fuck
2019-02-23 07:38
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Japan Getp0x0st 
No but I find it funny how I managed to offend you enough times you add several of my accounts to some shitty list you wasted your time typing up to achieve what exactly?
2019-02-23 07:39
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Brazil Joao@NTC 
I did
2019-02-23 00:24
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United States jay_320 
If people had any idea how good it was they would have. That's the real irony here. Reverting the price doesn't fix the AUG problem. You absolutely have to nerf the recoil now or make it like 3500+. It's so good that rich CT teams will run it even at 3300. The AUG is becoming a bigger problem then people think. At least if you want the M4 to stay relevant. If you don't care however I think you don't know CS that well. All these crazy halves we've been having this major are directly due to CT's now having the better gun. I never thought I'd see pro players dropping AK's for AUGs but it's happening. Granted some players will still pick up the AK when on CT side but not that many.
2019-02-23 00:28
just lower price of m4 by a bit, it will make some players favor the very cheap m4 over the very good aug😎 according to gob b interview
2019-02-23 00:32
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United States jay_320 
That's not a terrible idea. But it doesn't address the fact that CT's have access to the best rifle in the game. The irony of course being they always had access but no one figured it out until the price change. Fundamentally the T side should have the strongest rifle. I think the AUG officially is fucking with CS as is. Just my opinion.
2019-02-23 00:33
i mean, just by sheer power ak >>>>> aug both with damage and mobility, but yeah the scope really outweighs the ak's power i think😎 idk what the fix is but surely valve cant make it worse
2019-02-23 00:34
#20
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United States jay_320 
Your last sentence made me laugh. Sheer power sure. Totally agree. But I'd rather have an AUG in any situation now. I don't know what the answer to the AUG problem is. I think they should just nerf it into the ground. I'm kind of done with scoped rifles in CS. That's just me. I get some people like the variety.
2019-02-23 00:36
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allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Ak is still better for peeking, the movement speed matters alot. Ct has a chance to hold angle and punish player who dry peek.
2019-02-23 10:23
#43
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Finland dev2ce 
the fix would be to remove the aug (never happening) or removing the scope, ez.
2019-02-23 07:11
damage hardly matters since on CT side, you do enough damage with utility that Ts should be one-tappable on entry into a site
2019-02-23 07:53
#71
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Ct's rarely go for taps anyway. Peoplo would just spray the whole mag and kill as many players as they can
2019-02-23 10:25
No reverting to price back to 3300 is good, you don't want to just make the gun irrelevant in one fell swoop, remember Valve wants more guns to be used in the meta so bring the price back to 3300 will probably bring the usage of aug to m4 to be 50/50 as it should be
2019-02-23 00:38
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United States jay_320 
I think pricing it at 3300 and pricing the M4 at 2900 would make a difference. Just a straight reversion to 3300 I don't think changes things. People have realized how good it is now. The AUG is a straight beast of a weapon with an easy spray especially when scoped. It's basically the perfect counter to a hip-fired AK. That's why you've seen 15-0 and 14-1 halves this major. The CT side is absolutely dominant on every map but Dust 2 now.
2019-02-23 06:58
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Lithuania LevelUpp 
*and cache
2019-02-23 07:58
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United States jay_320 
Yes and cache. I forgot about the map. I'd be willing to bet Cache and Dust 2 are the least played maps as well.
2019-02-23 08:01
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Lithuania LevelUpp 
Cache has been played the least, while dd2 has been played the same amount of times as overpass and train
2019-02-23 08:05
#44
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Finland dev2ce 
making aug 3300 won't solve shit now that pros understand the power of the aug.
2019-02-23 07:11
tbh i never understood this either, if its just the price that changed if a ct side is in good economy why did we never see the aug until now i dont play the game so sorry if its a dumb question
2019-02-23 00:32
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Finland Vkims 
"One of the biggest things I see for why people are confused for why pros didn't use the krieg / aug before the price increase (atleast for me) is that I personally don't want to use a gun and practice a TON with it just to use it SOME gun rounds" -elige
2019-02-23 01:25
If it is so OP as they say, it would be worth it. Just sounds lazy to me. You should give yourself every edge you can to win. Like if a NBA player some years ago, said he didnt want to pracc 3 points shot, cus he is better closer to the rim, even tho the 3 pointer is OP, and he spent so much time praccing the other shot. Like dude, you wanna win or not?! Cant stand the pros players mentality some times.
2019-02-23 01:30
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United States jay_320 
This is ignoring that perfecting the spray of both the AK and M4 isn't something that you can just do. It requires constant practice and you'll never have it perfect with the spray nerf / bullet spread. In other words it's not laziness. There's just so many hours in the week. In order to be able to spray 15 rounds out of an AK accurately and consistently requires a massive amount of practice on it's own. That's not too mention getting it to the point you can transfer with a whole magazine. You are giving the pros less credit then they deserve. People act like spray control is this easy thing but it's not. Especially in high pressure situations during a match.
2019-02-23 07:01
it took me about 2 days to learn how to spray perfectly with an aug, of course it isnt as hard as m4 or even ak, but if a pro player can learn it in 2 days, even 1 week, and they dont even try in 4 years, its just conservatism and a little bit of lazines.s CS has always been game of conservatists, with only 4-5 guns relevant in 1.6 Pros who came into CS:GO from 1.6 are now mostly IGLs, coaches and analysts. And ofc they are the ones who taught current pros how to play. And they did it on their own conservatist style. And they will say for sure l "Why waste 7 days on learning a new gun, if you can just keep using the previous one?" Natus Vincere arent learning Cache from the beginning of CS:GO, even tho they changed their lineup lots of times, bringing in lots of new players, even having only Edward from 1.6 at one moment, and they still permaban it. Im happy there are teams like Astalis who bring in lots of new stuff into game, making it less static, and i fucking hate teams like Na'Vi who always try the opposite. And Valve made the real epic thing, by opening our eyes on hwo lazy CS pros are and how irrelevant meta is. Meta is no more than a common sense.
2019-02-23 07:55
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United States jay_320 
Don't think you read what I said. You don't just 'learn' a spray in a single week and your good. You learn it and then you practice it for thousands of hours. So when you are in a high pressure situation, just jumped on a ledge and have two people in front of you, you can snap a headshot then transfer to another player without thinking. This isn't something you just pick up. I'd argue that most pros are still perfecting their AK sprays. Top 20 players even. People on HLTV can act like they have perfect 30 bullet sprays off playing MM and maybe some faceit but they don't.
2019-02-23 07:59
"You don't just 'learn' a spray in a single week and your good. You learn it and then you practice it for thousands of hours." It took them about 1 month or so to become perfect sprayers and 1tappers with this gun, what are you talking about lol. P.S. Being a pro player is being a pro player, they are payed for this thing and they get a lot of money, why would they not try to invent "new" things instead of always crying on twitter. P.P.S. Seems like you didn't read what i write, not me didn't read what you write.
2019-02-23 08:04
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United States jay_320 
A month? You might want to check how long the price difference has been in effect. It's closer to half a year then a single month.
2019-02-23 16:20
i was starting to count the time from where started using it to right now, which is not that significant + counting 4.5 months as half an year is also quite wrong. But seriously m8, you are giving too much credit for people that can't even realise some things until Valve shows them how to. UMP was also overpowered from like 2014, no one even cared about it until some pros suddenly started using it. Same with Tec9, Mag7, P250. This isn't about how good or bad some guns are, this is about how stupid are CS:GO pros, when they realise it only when Valve changes something. LIKE WTF, these guys could've won lots of tournaments, even against fucking Astralis, if they just used their time not for doing same thing over and over. To be honest i haven't seen anyone except for BIG, Liquid and Astralis really invent something into this game in this era, teams just do same tactics, same strategies, same guns. And you can't understand 1 thing, THEY ARE BEING FUCKING PAID FOR PLAYING GAMES, why would they not even try to play BETTER, if there is a GUN, SO OVERPOWERED??
2019-02-23 18:23
#74
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Playing 1 week is enough to understand when to tap and when to spray. And you cant spray perfectly anyway so it doesn't make sense to practice spray 24/7. Playing dm is enough to learn it. and 200 dollar is just a flash bang. We've had a time where a1s is 3200 and people still use it over m4. Not playing aug before doesn't make sense either way.
2019-02-23 10:33
It really sound like you have never played with the gun. It gives 100 dmg headshots at close range, the spray pattern is almost the same as the m4 and it got a fucking scope. They are just fucking LAZY. They had a fucking OP gun right under their nose, and didnt want to use it, cus its a ''noob'' gun. Its their job to win. Its their job to find every edge they can to win trophies. And they didnt use is, cus they were fucking lazy. Goes to show how much it really means for them to win, their mentality is trash.
2019-02-23 13:12
I did use it and lots of my teammates were mocking me
2019-02-23 00:32
Can make money irrelevant on late rounds or when rich. Why didnt they buy it then? My answer is that they didnt know about the game enough. New invention.
2019-02-23 00:38
Yeah. Goes to show how much pros are trying to invent new stuff
2019-02-23 01:27
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Brazil Boldro1965 
Cause b4 it was weapon 4 n00bs. Just like p90.
2019-02-23 00:38
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Hopefully they make p90 cheaper so we have bigger variety.
2019-02-23 01:09
and auto too new meta aug p90 and auto gg csgo
2019-02-23 01:17
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Would be great
2019-02-23 01:17
#52
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Russia baryga007 
$800 p90 😎😎😎
2019-02-23 07:32
#29
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Norway Torsken_ 
I used it in 2014/15, but grew a love for the M4A4
2019-02-23 01:18
#30
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Slovakia dodan 
Because i use M4A1-S 😃
2019-02-23 01:21
#38
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Switzerland sovereiign 
Best gun in the game.
2019-02-23 01:29
Cus ppl said is was a noob gun and not better than the m4, so no reason to spend more money on it. Just goes to show how the pros are set in their meta, and not trying out new stuff. Before price reduction: HAHAH YOU ARE PLAYING WITH THE AUG? WHAT A NOOB YOU ARE AND WHAT A NOOB GUN. After: OMG OMG OMG THE AUG IS TO OP, ITS RUINING CS... OMG FIX VALVE
2019-02-23 01:24
I can't see the problems. Stronger teams winning, so, if only a few players screaming:"Nerf AUG", cuz it's just annoying gun for them, why should we care about it?
2019-02-23 07:18
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Moldova HLTV_Moldova 
hello 3kliksphillip
2019-02-23 07:29
cause pros played the meta and never got out to try new weapons. And based on stats, she is mostly the same as the m4, but with a scope. Nobody got to think that the scope would give a huge advantage for the 200 extra.
2019-02-23 07:31
#54
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Other ToRu 
cuz pros would prefer m4 + flash than AUG
2019-02-23 07:38
#58
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World Darge 
People should start playing more with SG as Valve intended, that would give some balance. But a meta built around scoped rifles would be quite different to what we have now, the other option would be more set executes and less T's taking duels. I like that there is a shift in the meta, the game is more professional and strategic than ever and players will be able to find a new balance. I just hope Valve gives them time, nerfing a gun is always unpleseant because you're just making something to be more shitty and less reliable than before. Good guns are fun too, there is no joy on picking something from a bunch of shitty options.
2019-02-23 07:50
Still prefer m4a1s, because it has no traces, more quiet and accurate than any rifle in the game. Also ez double hs for life.
2019-02-23 10:30
#73
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India iejesus 
aug is for noobs
2019-02-23 10:33
Honestly, I always hated both M4s but used them because thats what everyone else used.. and because when i used the AUG people would call me a noob. It sounds stupid but its true.
2019-02-23 10:37
I used it sometimes :D
2019-02-23 10:38
every thread about the AUG and not being a hate thread is from NA. fucking cod burger brain kids fuck off...
2019-02-23 10:41
I used to use it, got star trak skin for it and 2.5K kill in like 2 months, but everyone was like "Noob, dont use noob gun..." (Which I dont think is wrong) so I turned to M4... Have the skin price changed? I have MW or FN Wings Stratrak Aug..., bought it for 2$ is it more expensive now?
2019-02-23 10:43
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Poland Fanowskyy 
I did sometimes, just like i do now.
2019-02-23 13:13
Cuz m4 was decently cheaper, now they pretty much the same price
2019-02-23 13:19
the purpose of scope is to bring accuracy...and yet people complain about AUG's accuracy. Quit this game. Try to get used to SG as well? Scout hs + AK one tap = SG scope. SG and AUG shouldn't get price increase more than $200. I would also say SG recoil needs to be reduce so people will use more SG as well.
2019-02-23 16:30
#88
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
even if it changed to 3300 back again, it will still b used as every1 experienced it and its fking op
2019-02-23 19:13
#89
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Brazil bandicoot 
I did. only noobs complain now. krieg is even better
2019-02-23 19:14
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