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Astralis and Liquid
Aleksib | 
Finland Waterfuk 
Every top 10 professional teams are miles beyond other teams skill level. How is Astralis and Liquid still miles ahead of the rest of the top 10 ? Discuss.
2019-02-23 22:12
#1
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Serbia 2KGkaka 
because ence hasnt woken up yet 😎😎
2019-02-23 22:13
dude
2019-02-23 22:13
#6
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Serbia 2KGkaka 
what
2019-02-23 22:16
#13
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Germany AdiZen 
Because CS has stepped back NaVi used to be good but now they seem kind of weak. Hopefully they will show how good they really are soonish. Other teams just did weird roster moves without ofting having the necessity for that.
2019-02-23 22:20
I think navi has to rework their mappool they cant play nuke and cache good like astralis and liquid does. so instant 1-0 for astralis and liquid imo they are decent on overpass and mirage but inferno and train arent that good especially not against astralis and liquid
2019-02-23 23:52
#43
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Germany AdiZen 
they should really try cache they gave it up without even trying ...
2019-02-23 23:53
#12
s1mple | 
Europe tarikS 
lame
2019-02-23 22:19
No weak players dragging the team down
2019-02-23 22:13
for me it feels like they are focussing way more on tactics like other teams and they always have a planb thats why they are the best
2019-02-23 22:16
Astralis yes, they always did it, Liquid is a good tactical team, nothing meta changing or over-complicated, good executions and all but it's mainly the fact that they're all good individually. The times of the pronax and the karrigan are over, even your IGL needs to be able to keep up with the pace of the rest of the team
2019-02-23 22:23
This +a fucking million. The era of "support", non-fragging IGLs and other mascots has been over for a very long time.
2019-02-23 22:57
#15
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Russia zbogus 
I know a certain team that focuses way more on tactics that went 0-3
2019-02-23 22:24
because they dont have the firepower??? astralis and liquid have 5 equally skilled players to step up unlike the rest of the topteams thats why they are the most consistent teams out there
2019-02-23 22:27
#17
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Russia zbogus 
So firepower is important
2019-02-23 22:52
ofc it is but thats why these teams are way ahead above teams like navi,mibr, faze, etc cuz they have 5 equal top players and better strats
2019-02-23 22:54
#33
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Russia zbogus 
Navi->Edward, Zeus Faze->retirement home Mibr->communication (should be top 3now)
2019-02-23 23:17
#39
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United States Sillychubs 
Retirement home lmao
2019-02-23 23:48
#49
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United States DervGuy 
Retirement home hahahaha
2019-02-24 00:00
lolz... funny as hell!
2019-02-24 00:44
That and also having great teamplay. The Astralis guys have each others back, so even if one goes down they so often get the refrag. To me this also why watching them play is great fun, so many moves and great tactics. And what makes it all happen is them being really professional about how they do train and prepare - their operation is second to none.
2019-02-23 23:38
Other teams dont have a good+skilled igl
2019-02-23 22:13
This is actually pretty good point. Gla1ve is great and nitr0 definitely underrated as igl just because he doesnt frag as well as gla1ve.
2019-02-23 22:15
#60
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United States flybywire12 
Recently nitro has been stepping it up and fragging hard. Hope people start seeing him as one of the best igl soon.
2019-02-24 00:24
Cus they take their job serious and want to win. Not just play around and get lucky if they win
2019-02-23 22:16
#9
flusha | 
United States Venom_ 
Because they aren't bots
2019-02-23 22:17
#10
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Europe wotDfak 
To be completely honest Astralis are miles ahead of liquid and liquid is miles away from others.
2019-02-23 22:18
#45
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United States Sillychubs 
True. But I hope that teams like Navi mibr do well this major because I’m kinda sick of astralis vs liquid in the finals of big events
2019-02-23 23:53
#50
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United States DervGuy 
This.
2019-02-24 00:00
XXX Hoshi in the chat, you Cloud9 fanboy. Give me one reason, right now, you absolute moron of a human being as to why we should not be sleeping on Cloud9. Because the fact of the matter is if you watched them perform in that event, if you open your God damn eyes that your mother...came out of you(?)...fucking vagina and you watch that game of Counter-Strike and use an objective style of count-... of fucking watching anything, you stupid fuck, you can see that they didnt actually play anything worth convincing. They played scrimmy CS. Do they have individuals who can perform well? Is that gonna win you games against the best teams in the fucking world? No, its not. So, unless they gonna turn things complete fucking 180 around, cloud9 are not gonna make top8 bro. So just go back to being a cloud9 fanboy and spam all your stupid bullshit in the twitch chat, cause you gotta open your fucking eyes, you have to watch the game for what it is and stop being a...- having bias, this is what people need to stop doing in the whole world, stop being biased to things because you are a part of a fucking tribe or a fan club, start actually thinking. If you wanna be objective, if you wanna make decisions in life, you need to use your fucking eyes and use your brain. Stop being morons, Im fed up with these kind of tweets and shit at me when they just...- absolutely closed minded idiots. FUCK
2019-02-23 22:18
Lol
2019-02-23 22:57
#18
EliGE | 
Europe xSKYY 
Lift of Distance fix
2019-02-23 22:53
They have only gaming house but Liquid and astralis have FACILITY like a company . This is insane
2019-02-23 22:55
#21
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India pongaman1 
Lol comparing liquid to astralis in 2019
2019-02-23 22:56
#24
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
hltv.org/news/25885/liquid-beat-astralis.. Yeah the fact is liquid>astralis
2019-02-23 22:59
#25
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India pongaman1 
Lol only once and only cuz of Augs.. fix Augs and liquid is back to chocking
2019-02-23 23:00
#27
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Finland Vkims 
Any other excuses?
2019-02-23 23:02
#29
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India pongaman1 
Check out how many finals liquid played against astralis and how easily astralis beat them
2019-02-23 23:05
#48
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Finland Vkims 
I thought we were talking about 2019 here?
2019-02-23 23:58
or liquid got rid of their weak link and now they are more even with astralis
2019-02-23 23:04
Well, we shall know more next weekend. If I was a betting man my money would be on Astralis, but hopefully it will be close since it will then mean there is chance of more close matches during the season.
2019-02-23 23:54
#35
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Poland Hell2k 
hahahahahhahaha nt kiddo xdddd
2019-02-23 23:21
#51
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United States DervGuy 
You are right, except it's not cause of AUGS. Everyone uses AUGS today.
2019-02-24 00:01
#55
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India pongaman1 
Yea but everybody dosent sit corners scoped in on chock points like Stewie... Except for twistzz everyone on liquid is blessed to have aug.. or else they would have chocked throughout their lives... Never won anything and never will
2019-02-24 00:08
#56
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United States DervGuy 
So you're telling me Liquid is the only team to do this? Don't get me wrong, I believe the AUG is a very OP weapon, and in pro games it is just way too much better than the M4. But to say that Liquid is the only team to camp with it is just plain false.
2019-02-24 00:10
#64
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India pongaman1 
That's how they won ibp if you watched it
2019-02-24 01:03
#66
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United States DervGuy 
That's how Astralis used it as well. Liquid just pulled through during IBP. Just look at Device on Mirage vs Renegades lmao.
2019-02-24 01:08
#68
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India pongaman1 
Just look at everyone on liquid boring augers
2019-02-24 01:12
#69
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United States DervGuy 
Okay I think that's the end of this conversation.
2019-02-24 01:12
#70
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India pongaman1 
Chocked
2019-02-24 01:12
#76
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United States DervGuy 
Yeah whatever helps you sleep at night kid. Your response more than proves me right lmao
2019-02-24 01:25
#61
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United States flybywire12 
Astralis is also using Aug's dumbass, and so is every other relevant team out there grinding. Last year even before Aug's became the goto ct rifle, Liquid was dominating all other teams, so your opinion that liquid won because of Aug is plain stupid.
2019-02-24 00:28
#65
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India pongaman1 
Astralis started using it like rn in this major.. they didn't use it in ibp and liquid did and held angles like nubs and won marginally.. aug is only way liquid will win anything
2019-02-24 01:04
#79
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United States flybywire12 
WTF are you talking about dumbass? did you just start watching cs this major? Go back and watch ibp masters again, xyp and glave were using Aug all game, Watch blast pro series 2k18, or ESL s8. Don't talk if you are some newfag who picked the best team to be a fan of.
2019-02-24 01:46
#26
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United States ImFat 
Wouldn’t that make more sense to compare Liquid to Astralis in 2019, compared to 2018? Liquid are the only team to have beaten them in 2019 and one of the very few who have beaten them in 2018 and 2019. And it’s very easy to say one of the only teams (or maybe the only team) who can actually beat Astralis is Liquid. (Edit) I now see you have “Fan of Astralis” that’s the reason of the clear Bias
2019-02-23 23:01
i never compared astralis to liquid
2019-02-23 23:05
#32
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India pongaman1 
Cuz liquid aug nubs
2019-02-23 23:11
everyone is aug nubs wtf ur saying even man
2019-02-23 23:49
#53
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India pongaman1 
They paid valve to reduce price so liquid can finally win something
2019-02-24 00:02
#72
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United States kearCS 
Go be dumb and delusional somewhere else, ty
2019-02-24 01:17
#74
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
flair checks out
2019-02-24 01:23
#75
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India pongaman1 
Lol 2 major final chokes to speak for it
2019-02-24 01:24
#77
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United States kearCS 
That was in 2016 with 3-4 different teammates. Astralis also used to be the king of choking, now look at them.
2019-02-24 01:28
#78
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India pongaman1 
Yea but liquid chocking since forever.. even with simple
2019-02-24 01:41
#59
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United States Sillychubs 
Astralis is using augs too wtf
2019-02-24 00:17
#62
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India pongaman1 
Not that offer... Liquid use it right after Anti eco
2019-02-24 00:40
#31
TACO | 
Finland Lomppa 
yes
2019-02-23 23:08
cause all of the other teams have superstars that think aim is the most important thing to train in csgo. just look at the match where faze won. was pretty sad watching them play.
2019-02-23 23:20
#36
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Poland Hell2k 
other teams can beat them relax and we will see after major which team is where
2019-02-23 23:22
#37
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Canada Surzz 
they play tactically, and everyone on both teams performs consistently.
2019-02-23 23:22
#40
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United States Number1User 
ez liquid
2019-02-23 23:49
#44
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Albania Mamluku 
Liquid is miles ahead in losing finals in big events rather than being ahead of other teams
2019-02-23 23:53
At least they get to the finals and still make money unlike navi
2019-02-24 00:01
#58
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Albania Mamluku 
NaVi made more money than Liquid last year and won more tournaments than Liquid
2019-02-24 00:17
#47
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
Because s1mple has to fight his own team and Nvidia, radar bugs and aug noobs. All patches are made or not made to nerf s1mple. Imagen CSGO without AWP nerf without AUG buff without m4a1 without cz. S1mple would reach a 2.0 rating on every LAN.
2019-02-23 23:55
#54
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United Kingdom IgglePiggle 
I think its more about game sense and tactical awareness than individual skill and aim, both these teams rarely rush sites or run around relying on aim to win duels, they know where to look and where to expect players to be or come from, not just hold common angles. they know the maps and get inside other players heads to force them to make mistakes or make the plays they are ready to counter
2019-02-24 00:02
#57
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United States ferric 
Because both teams have extremely talented, extremely skilled, extremely hungry players on the team and both teams also gave good chemistry among the players, no language barriers, both have had cores or duos that have been together for a long time with all 5 players having been at the top for a very long time, and as a result have the highest mastery of the fundamentals of Counter-Strike
2019-02-24 00:11
#67
ZywOo | 
Germany MTD3 
Only teams which take a professional approach inside and outside the game. Its basically premier League teams(astralis and liquid) vs scrambled talented hobby players
2019-02-24 01:10
#71
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North America T1RANT 
Everyone on same level, just Astralis blew up, and Liquid (took time) but have started to get on their level.
2019-02-24 01:13
They play a robotic game, without any risks, just a safe play
2019-02-24 01:22
#80
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Brazil Dedstars 
I believe Navi and maybe MIBR, needing quite a bit of the brightness of the simple boy and the famous godzera.
2019-02-24 02:05
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