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KennyS and Vitality
Lithuania Mind44 
Should KennyS join Vitality ? Vitality is looking alot stronger than G2 Thoughts?
2019-02-23 23:59
#1
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
2 awpers in team?
2019-02-24 00:00
#6
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
You never heard about double awp setup?
2019-02-24 00:03
#7
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
But not in Vitality
2019-02-24 00:03
#11
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Why?
2019-02-24 00:04
#13
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
because they won`t have good main carry with ak\m4\aug
2019-02-24 00:05
#41
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
zywoo is better with riffle than awp, check your facts before you talk :)
2019-02-24 10:23
#42
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Norway Nordavind 
+1
2019-02-24 10:24
#46
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
so?
2019-02-24 10:53
#47
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
so what ? Zywoo cant be main carry ? fan of s1mple afraid cause he read many thread on zywoo ? dont worry s1mple still the best atm
2019-02-24 10:55
#48
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
ahha Zyw0o never will be top 1 player max 1.1 kd vs tier 1 teams XD
2019-02-24 11:47
#49
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
we'll see :)
2019-02-24 11:48
Zywoo is basically neck and neck with Jame in terms of stats for this major and no one is saying Jame will be the best in the world and hes also IGL aswell as awper and main carry.
2019-02-24 14:59
No but plenty have suggested for Jame to join navi, a top 3 team in the world, due to his skill so thats not exactly the best example
2019-02-24 15:10
But no one is saying hes the next s1mple, meanwhile you have a large sections of morons trying to say Zywoo is the next s1mple based on some performances vs tier 3 teams before the major.
2019-02-24 15:11
Well first of all, thank you for admitting that you are easily baited because no one actually thinks zywoo is at s1mples level However, zywoo has better stats vs tier 3 teams than s1mple did when he was rising, zywoo has the highest FPL winrate ever, and zywoo won MVP at his first LAN event, so its not as if he hasnt lived up to expectations so far.
2019-02-24 15:13
Stats vs Tier 3 teams mean nothing, playing a Tier 3 team isnt even on the same planet, just because you perform against Tier 3 bots doesnt mean shit and so far he looks above average but nothing compared the truly world class. Infact apex has a better rating than him.
2019-02-24 15:19
I mean hes currently boasting a 1.15 rating at the major. If he were to maintain that rating, comparatively to last year (without factoring MVPs and tournament success in) he would end up at about 8th in the world. Hes by far the best player on a top 12 team, most would consider that world class, valde for example last year.
2019-02-24 15:19
apex has a better rating than him at this major.
2019-02-24 15:20
Apex is a world class player and has proven that throughout his career, at one point being considered the best entry fragger in the world, so thank you for extending my point Also apex having a better rating at this point in the major does not make apex a better player than zywoo. If we check previous events and qualifications its quite clear who was superior in those.
2019-02-24 15:22
2019-02-24 15:23
Apex isnt a world class. Those also arent the stats for this major. Most of their previous games are against no names so the stats arent exactly the best for proving if you are a world class player or not, ive boxed for 12 years i clean out average fighters in under 60 seconds, doesnt make me world class.
2019-02-24 15:28
I never said they were learn to read "If we check previous events and qualifications its quite clear who was superior in those." You're right and the stats zywoo has posted so far on this lineup are far and above apex and apex is certainly above average for a pro. Definitely still a top 10 entry fragger in the world if not higher
2019-02-24 15:29
Top 10 entry fragger in a era with basically next to no dedicated entries to talk of, the fact is Zywoos stats vs the teams that matter arent exactly all that. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7998/s1mp.. Thats s1mple in majors in 2016.
2019-02-24 15:31
S1mple had had about a year of pro circuit level play at that point, fully focusing on CS 0 school, Zywoo is literally a rookie, this is his FIRST big event.
2019-02-24 15:35
Have you boxed vs the top 16 boxers in the world and had a well above even record? Because thats what zywoo is doing right now.
2019-02-24 15:30
Yeah hes cleaning out low quality teams. top 16 , yeah the likes Rogue and SJ are top 16, this is the first time hes played against team with a pulse and hes look decent, nothing amazing.
2019-02-24 15:35
Im talking about only at the major at this point 1.15 rating average at a major, compared to s1mples 1.2 isnt that far off.
2019-02-24 15:34
s1mple is 1.31 at this major, big difference.
2019-02-24 15:35
And electronic who was 4th last year is at 1.11. Is electronic not world class?
2019-02-24 15:37
Electronic has proven in other events over the last year or so vs the best, Zywoo only has this and hes not exactly doing anything of note. To call Zywoo a top player based on this performance is just idiocy and call him a top player for playing against shit tier 2 and 3 teams is also idiocy.
2019-02-24 15:39
Hes doing plenty of note lol, Sgares saying hes "living up to expectations" pimp commending him for brushing off the rough starts hes had in some matches and getting back into the game and of course the 1.15 rating which puts him at 20th in the event. 20th, in an event with literally every player from the top 20 last year besides the mouz core and valde, and its not even over yet. He has the potential to make top 8 at a major in his first big event.
2019-02-24 15:41
Seangares is just being nice, that what he does, its one of the reason he didnt win anything, to scared to call players out and tell them the truth. Yeah and Pimp is such an expert.
2019-02-24 15:45
Whats the truth? How much more can you really expect from a true rookie? Certainly knows more about CS than you, thats why hes contracted to the biggest event in csgo and you... you arent
2019-02-24 15:48
Zy............... Zywho???????? apex world class????? Hmmmmmmm, you sure??????
2019-02-24 19:01
#105
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France LanaRhoades 
it's like his 7th or 8th major
2019-02-24 15:39
#104
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France LanaRhoades 
it's is first major wtf stfu please : hltv.org/stats/players?event=1553 stats of s1mple at his first major : worse than zywoo. And zywoo has better stats and he is sick lol gtfo. /close
2019-02-24 15:39
Look at the teams s1mple faced, Fnatic and NiP, do you know good they were in 2014, much better than Navi, BiG, Vici and Renegades. He still has yet to prove anything. Moron.
2019-02-24 15:45
#111
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France LanaRhoades 
"he's not sick" : ok youtube.com/watch?v=oo8JrXQPocs subtitles in english. "look at the teams , fnatic and nip" NiP was a top 3 team and they lost 2-0 , and fnatic was a bo1. vitality faced na'vi with a sick zywoo , renegades this major > nip 2014 and they faced them also with a sick zywoo , they faced cloud9 that is a dark horse of this major , he had 1.33 rating at the challengers stage and has 1.15 at the legend stage while he's sick , STFU NOW MORON
2019-02-24 15:46
The current Navi has nothing on a 2014 Fnatic. 2014 NiP are much better than current Renegades you fool. Wow challengers stage, vs shit team in Bo1s.
2019-02-24 15:49
#115
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France LanaRhoades 
2014 fnatic is like mibr 2019 meta has changed moron AND WHY YOU TALK ABOUT IT , WE TALK ABOUT ZYWOO I PROVE U WRONG SO /CLOSE FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT I LL KILL U IRL
2019-02-24 15:48
Wow you really are clueless, 2014 fnatic are much better than current MIBR, they got 16-3 by C9 and have only looked good vs NiP so far and they had issues with G2.
2019-02-24 15:52
#119
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France LanaRhoades 
yeah yeah , i know :) that's why i said that.
2019-02-24 15:51
You said Fnatic was like MIBR, no, that Fnatic lineup is much better than this MIBR lineup, just look at their trophy cabinets. Theres about 6 levels between Zywoo and s1mple and Zywoo wont ever traverse them.
2019-02-24 15:54
#122
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France LanaRhoades 
YES , BUT THE SCENE WAS FUCKING BAD IN 2014 ONLY 6 TEAMS WERE RELEVANT OMG. NOW EVERYOEN CAN UPSET EVERYONE AND MATCHUPS ARE REALLY TOUGH AND TIGHT DUMBASS AND I SAID /CLOSE SO /CLSOE I DONT ANSWER U
2019-02-24 15:55
Not really, thats a myth, it had some of the best players of all time and some of the best individual players of all time. It had on fire KennyS and JW, Show in his prime, Flusha at his best, Olof at his best, NiP in form and VP with some amazing players and ripping some teams apart on lan, that era is much better than this one. It also had a younger s1mple.
2019-02-24 15:59
You will not see my message
2019-02-24 16:19
wha?
2019-02-24 17:00
None of thos things are reasons that 2014 era was better, just your opinions
2019-02-24 18:09
#112
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France LanaRhoades 
iamsexy
2019-02-24 15:55
Theres literal equivalencies for everything you said. Now insetad of VP we have liquid, instead of olof and JW we have device and magisk. We have one of the best clutch players ever in xyp9x. Twistzz NAF and Niko in their primes, some of the most skilled aimers weve ever seen and s1mple playing the best counterstrike of any player... EVER. Not to mention we have cold now and the 2 best fragging IGLs of all time in Fallen and gla1ve, need I go on?
2019-02-24 18:14
New generation is strong too
2019-03-03 13:14
#124
shox | 
France SmartezZ 
zywoo is insane with rifle
2019-02-24 16:18
#143
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India skyl4rk 
2019-02-24 18:04
#149
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
virus
2019-02-24 18:19
Virus.pro ?
2019-02-24 20:55
#152
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
yes
2019-02-24 21:05
zywoo are so good with rifles, kennys too
2019-02-24 00:18
#22
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
kenny good with rifle? hahah
2019-02-24 00:19
Better than smithzz
2019-02-24 00:21
#37
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Sweden Ivorn 
Relevance?
2019-02-24 00:53
Better than Nbk.
2019-02-24 14:55
Cool so hes better than 2 players who have hardly been relevant for 2 years and hes not in the major.
2019-02-24 15:00
#81
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Europe g4nl0cK 
>nbk >not being relevant in the last 2 years
2019-02-24 15:22
Nt b8er but since when nbk is like uk scene ?
2019-02-24 16:59
#23
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United Kingdom Lcheste3 
Yes, but not for every single round you muppet.
2019-02-24 00:20
#28
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
So what you mean? Zywoo cant play with rifle? Kennys cant play with rifle?
2019-02-24 00:24
#153
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United Kingdom Lcheste3 
It would be a waste to play one with a rifle
2019-02-28 17:26
#101
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
*But ZyWoo would be at least a&s good if not better as rifler than he is as awper, + less pression on his shoulders.
2019-02-24 15:37
ZywOo is actually a hybrid, he is just the best awper in vitality but he is a natural hybrid instead of an awper
2019-02-24 15:50
Zywoo is a riffler forced to play with the awp because everyone sucks
2019-02-24 18:02
#2
karrigan | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
wait for tomorrow
2019-02-24 00:01
#3
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
No. NBK and kennys in same team never again
2019-02-24 00:01
The drama was between NBK and Shox. Not Kenny
2019-02-24 00:26
#31
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Oh I can asssure that kennys was involved in that
2019-02-24 00:27
#36
NBK- | 
Estonia BlameS 
Kenny chose Shox because he also wanted to play with ex6tenz.
2019-02-24 00:52
kenny actually chose nbk first when they made that team with mixwell. when that failed he stayed and tried shox's idea.
2019-02-24 15:21
+1
2019-02-24 17:03
#139
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Finland dev2ce 
no, he did not choose nbk. he wanted to go with shox's project which removed nbk and apex, but bodyy didn't want to so ocelote went with nbk's lineup
2019-02-24 17:58
well yeah you are right but kenny could have refused to play in that lineup
2019-02-24 18:00
#71
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Indonesia tsokai 
Kenny got nothing to do with the drama between Shox and NBK.
2019-02-24 15:15
#4
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Slovakia Denysis 
Chuckyyyyy the G2 fanboy will be here sooner or later and will tell you how you are wrong, and how G2 has way more potential. :D
2019-02-24 00:02
#9
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Europe R2D2s 
+1
2019-02-24 00:03
But that potential is being wasted atm
2019-02-24 00:15
NBK apEX ZywOo shox kennyS
2019-02-24 00:02
#10
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Nbk never again in same team with shox and kenny
2019-02-24 00:03
french brain..
2019-02-24 00:11
:D expected
2019-02-24 00:11
Fakeflagger ?
2019-03-03 13:18
And why shox ? He is in a slump like olof. Shox is not a beast like he was in 2015
2019-02-24 00:17
because this idiot needs to stop thinking he is an igl and play like he used to do
2019-02-24 00:18
But we all know he won't do this.
2019-02-24 00:31
You mean 2016?
2019-02-24 10:28
2015 = 2016
2019-02-24 14:57
2016 shox >>>> 2015 shox
2019-02-24 18:03
#8
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Europe R2D2s 
Why downgrade?
2019-02-24 00:03
#12
France Uexo 
you're right kennys < any vitality player xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-02-24 00:05
True but his team is way worse
2019-02-24 00:27
Kenny is still great and carying almost every game.. Rest of g2 are great as well
2019-02-24 00:10
Vitality could do great things with zywoo + kennys :)
2019-02-24 00:18
True
2019-02-24 00:51
Imo if a change has to be made you bring either kennys OR shox but not both cuz of all the egos issues with nbk and shit This issue is paralyzing the French scene for way too long already
2019-02-24 00:21
I am sick of nbk ego. This guy destroyed french scene
2019-02-24 00:23
You misspelled shox
2019-02-24 00:31
Drama was between shox and nbk so they destroyed well balanced envyus and g2/titan at that time.
2019-02-24 15:00
No don't ruin vitality
2019-02-24 00:24
#74
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Indonesia tsokai 
I dont think adding player like Kenny to the team would ruin them
2019-02-24 15:18
#94
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Brazil RIPInPiece 
Kenny was godlike only before awp nerf long time ago. Since then hes been avarage and overrated.
2019-02-24 15:33
Haha whats up douche bag, it's Tanner from Highschool. Remember me? Me and the guys used to give you a hard time in school. Sorry you were just an easy target lol. I can see not much has changed. Remember Sarah the girl you had a crush on? Yeah we're married now. I make over 200k a year and drive a mustang GT. I guess some things never change huh loser? Nice catching up lol. Pathetic..
2019-02-24 00:52
yes
2019-02-24 10:16
kennys zywoo nbk apex kioshima
2019-02-24 10:18
+111111
2019-02-24 15:01
yes
2019-02-24 15:12
+1
2019-02-24 15:49
Kenny needs to save himself from G2 for real.
2019-02-24 10:19
That is my point for making this thread
2019-02-24 15:05
#43
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Pakistan d1ckweed 
Vitality isn't a real team. It's a team that has overachieved at the Major. But kennyS needs to leave G2 and join a beautiful English-speaking team with an IGL that knows how to utilize him and a coach that will make him they key-piece of the side, allowing him to reach his peak again. He's in his prime age right now, and will only improve if that happens.
2019-02-24 10:26
Mouz or faze ? For faze as sad but -olof + kenny ? For mouz -sunny + kenny ? Faze is tight spot they have a good awper but for mouz it will be an upgrade
2019-02-24 15:07
#68
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Pakistan d1ckweed 
Why would mouz remove suNny when they already have 2 spots open?
2019-02-24 15:13
Dunno
2019-02-24 17:46
French cs is dead since 2015
2019-02-24 10:34
2016*
2019-02-24 15:08
2017 wasn't too bad
2019-02-24 16:27
it was
2019-02-24 16:28
G2 top 5 world 7 months in a row, ok it wasn't like what french scene used to be, but they were still a top team
2019-02-24 16:32
Fuck kennyS like he fucked NBK and apEX. ZywOo is doing OK as an AWPer, they don't need the washed up backstabber that stuck with shox in a dead project run by Moronlote.
2019-02-24 11:49
He should, G2 is washed up
2019-02-24 14:57
Wtf are u talking about? Kennys is reason why G2 dropped out he is so uncosistant and fucked up vs great teams....im not saying he is not atractive to watch but seriously he is not even close to simple,guardian,fallen....he is just twitch player like scream... P.S vitality is doing great why they would change someone for kennys????
2019-02-24 15:03
#76
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Indonesia tsokai 
*Shox is the reason why G2 form dropped
2019-02-24 15:19
#60
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Japan Cute_Loli 
No kennyS is inconsistent and rarely plays better than zywoo with an awp, if i was vitality i would buy out Lucky that guy is a monster rn
2019-02-24 15:05
lucky is good but not a monster lol
2019-02-24 15:09
#77
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Japan Cute_Loli 
"rn" he is a monster "rn" kkkk
2019-02-24 15:20
Sure lucky is lucky we will see how he performs after the major
2019-02-24 15:10
#70
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Bosnia and Herzegovina happYiiiNesS 
Yeah zywoo to the rifle -rpk, cuz old even if he's good, he is too old
2019-02-24 15:14
look at forest
2019-02-24 17:03
#135
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Bosnia and Herzegovina happYiiiNesS 
forest overrated
2019-02-24 17:17
Forest > rpk
2019-02-24 17:54
Lol. He is the best player on NiP
2019-02-24 18:17
#148
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Bosnia and Herzegovina happYiiiNesS 
rez>forest
2019-02-24 18:18
#73
gla1ve | 
Tunisia @BOLT 
how could a trash player join a team which is much better than his previous one doesn't make sense
2019-02-24 15:16
#84
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Europe g4nl0cK 
Best french line-up atm (respecting the french politics) NBK - IGL/LURK apEX - ENTRY ZywOo - RIFLER/2ND AWP kennyS - AWPER kioshima - SUPPORT/RIFLER (can help with IGLing if needed)
2019-02-24 15:26
#87
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Europe g4nl0cK 
and shox's team should look like this shox - LURK (2nd awp on CT) ScreaM - 2nd ENTRY Ex6tenZ - IGL/SUPPORT Jackz - ENTRY Lucky - AWP (on CT side & on T AWPs if needed)
2019-02-24 15:30
-jacks + rpk or bodyy
2019-02-24 15:32
#103
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Europe g4nl0cK 
I am not sure for +rpk because he is Vitality's worst player and JackZ&Lucky are playing better than bodyy in this G2 line-up
2019-02-24 15:38
best french team ever.
2019-02-24 15:30
+1
2019-02-24 15:31
remove who?
2019-02-24 15:33
Alex maybe
2019-02-24 17:56
#100
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Canada TorontoSucks 
Yes, for Alex the Bot Make Zywoo Rifler/Second Awp
2019-02-24 15:37
#106
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Other khorkalba 
KennyS is out of form. I'm not sure why Vitality would want to potentially mess up ZywOo's form by making him share the AWP role with an out of form player. What Vitality really needs instead is another world class rifler to pick up the slack when ZywOo or apeX have a quiet game. RPK / NBK and Alex all feel like they're more supportive players.
2019-02-24 15:39
- Zywoo + kennyS Zywoo to G2 and G2 become better than Vitalulity
2019-02-24 15:48
#121
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Europe trey_ 
no, they already have god ZywOooOooOOOOo
2019-02-24 15:54
brakmar
2019-02-24 16:20
keniS sucks, zywoo better.
2019-02-24 16:33
#144
kennyS | 
United Kingdom Thijo 
Yes, definitely. Move ZywOo to rifle and you have 3 strong stars in ZywOo kennyS and apEX and two consistent impact players who can also support in RpK and NBK.
2019-02-24 18:05
+111
2019-03-03 13:27
It's okay, zywoo is good at rifle
2019-03-03 13:16
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