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AUG POTENTIAL FIXES ?
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Germany Lvl_35_HLTV_baiter 
1.) Revert back the price to 3300$ or maybe even 3400$ 2.) Make the time to scope longer and make it innacurate while scoping in so you need time before you can shoot after scoping(just like with the awp) 3.) Make the spread while scoped in wider 4.) Reduce the fire rate of the gun while scoped in Not saying we should add all of them just one of these.What would be the best idea ?
2019-03-02 10:36
Simply disable scoping
2019-03-02 10:40
To be fair the gun is OP just because of the scope , everything else is balanced about it...
2019-03-02 10:47
spray
2019-03-02 11:24
without it would be still really good. A M4 with super good accuracy.
2019-03-02 14:29
Yeah but I still think it would be more balanced without a scope
2019-03-02 15:18
definitely. but im afraid valve wants to keep the scope to make it defferent, as they want to encourage people to use a wide variety of guns (ironially the aug update didnt really contribute to that, lol)
2019-03-02 15:30
#2
JZFB | 
Finland raivokkuus 
#4 seems like the best option to me. #1 would work too I guess but then an OP weapon is still in the game, so it isn't actually fixing any balance issues, just making sure that you won't come across them as often.
2019-03-02 10:43
Yeah I think reducing the fire rate while scoped in would make a big difference just like it was in the old CS...
2019-03-02 10:48
This "OP" weapon is unchanged in the game since 2014 february 12. How is that not even pub players were abusing it? I mean I met literally nobody, who was playing aug over m4 everytime.
2019-03-02 11:19
+1 This is so annoying when people suddenly jump on the bandwagon of AUG being OP just because pros play now it over M4. Pros realized that now you can get Utility with same money as M4, it makes huge difference. AUG is as powerful as before, people just actually had the balls to practice it now because pros did. Best change to balance the game? Make the M4 also 1 tap in closer situations, and make AUG and M4 the same RPM, and buff the Silenced M4 to 30 rounds, and just slightly faster RPM than M4/AUG, but no 1shot. That way, 3 different style of playstyles are as viable, and brings more variety to the game as CT. In terms of T-side, Krieg should be 2900, but make the running movement speed as fast as with AK. No, dont touch the recoil, practice the god damn recoil.
2019-03-02 11:37
Disagreed with your first sentence, I addressed it a bit in #43. But I actually agree with everything else you wrote, I'd prefer that other similar CT weapons get buffed as opposed to nerfing everything repeatedly.
2019-03-02 12:20
What I meant by the bandwagon is that, people say its OP because of the price change, even though in reality it was OP already, but not just tested enough to prove it. A bit like a sleeper OP.
2019-03-02 13:39
Yeah, in that case I agree with you fully then.
2019-03-02 13:41
Thumbs up :)
2019-03-03 00:17
#59
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India AAgOnFire 
+1 best meta
2019-03-02 14:28
Me neither. It doesn't change the facts, though - the gun is overpowered compared to other guns at the same price point. It was simply that nobody thought to try and build a meta around it until there were no reasons not to do so (with economy being the biggest obstacle previously).
2019-03-02 12:19
Cuz it wasn't really used before the price change , you wouldn't buy it unless you had really good ecenomy so It made no sense to practice with a gun that you would use "some" gun rounds...
2019-03-02 15:20
Nobody said it was op before they price change, so why whould it op when they change it back?
2019-03-02 12:11
#5
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Other mikeyzyzz 
2.) Make the time to scope longer and make it innacurate while scoping in so you need time before you can shoot after scoping(just like with the awp) it already takes ages lol how slow should the gun be
2019-03-02 10:49
What ages it scopes in an instant , do you even use the gun ?
2019-03-02 10:50
#8
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Other mikeyzyzz 
what even is the problem of the gun? its fine. people use the best possible guns and everyone has the same advantage.
2019-03-02 10:51
Bruh it's OP af , ez af recoil to control (even easier while scoped in). And just the fact that you have a scope holding an angle with a gun with practically no recoil is a problem...
2019-03-02 10:56
#13
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Other mikeyzyzz 
holding should always be easier than attacking. at the start of csgo, pretty much every map was highly CT sitet cuz thats how it is supposed to be
2019-03-02 10:57
#6
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Poland Scatdoodle 
no need to fix it, it counters overpowered AK perfectly fine
2019-03-02 10:49
AK is where it's supposed to be and to be fair it counters it a bit to much. A weapon with a scope , higher fire rate and easier recoil holding an angle against an AK wins 8/10 times , it needs a slight nerf...
2019-03-02 10:52
#14
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Poland Scatdoodle 
it's fine, T's always should have advantage at short distance, AK is one-hit kill gun and I've seen already many pros failing because they didn't scope in time. On the other hand CT's should have advantage in longer distance and weapon with a scope like AUG fits very well. Just no one used it before because it was more expensive than M4 which for pro is pretty much the same up to mid-range and even more advantageous at short distance due to faster fire rate than AUG*
2019-03-02 11:01
AUG CRYING THREAD #298309283
2019-03-02 10:52
I don't really care I love the gun , don't remember the last time I used the m4 (only when I pick it up from a dead body). I just see a bunch of these "fix AUG" comments so I'm going in on the hype to try and predict the fixes since it's 95% sure valve will respond with a nerf in some way since most of the community is crying about it...
2019-03-02 10:54
-99999999999
2019-03-02 10:59
Cs weapons classic should always be m4/ak Cs go is abusing with smgs and exotic weapons but aug should still be 2d best weapon. Bring 1.6 meta and enjoy
2019-03-02 11:04
The 1.6 meta was extremely boring in terms of gun usage.
2019-03-02 11:12
I think it's better with more variety , if you're gonna use m4/ak/awp/deagle as weapons only then just remove the rest cuz it's useless...
2019-03-02 15:22
"2...(just like with the awp)" You can fire an accurate shot with the awp right after you scoped. Thats called quickscoping. So I dont know what you mean there. The price increase ( revert basically ) would be enough imo. Its minus 1 flash for that guy. Also, making the gun more inaccurate without scope would make it less versatile, but would ruin the CS style even further.
2019-03-02 11:05
#38
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Austria WhiteHawk7777 
quickscopes are quite inaccurate and only really work at close range
2019-03-02 12:02
Quickscoping is inconsistent af , you can't always hit it...
2019-03-02 15:22
From my own topic, you need to make the weapon weaker in certain situations: "The weapon can do almost everything at the moment better than the AK or equally well. What i think needs to be done, is to remove some of it's broad utility, since It can be used everywhere atm. There needs to be some calculated thought behind buying it. You have to weigh your options - it has to have an impact on what you can do. THE FIX: - Make the spread while UNZOOMED like that of the AWP, or maybe a little less. Keep the prize. THE IMPACT: The change will hugely limit the weapons utility. You will be able to still have an advantage holding angles, but you will no longer be equal to an AK-wielding player in close fights, and your mobility with the weapon will be highly deminished. Meaning retakes with the AUG will be a lot harder, and you won'thave and advantage at all distances." This will make it weapon hard to use for close battle fights and retakes.
2019-03-02 11:14
Aka the will be a bigger difference in how and when you use m4 and aug
2019-03-02 11:15
#30
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World neomax360 
I think buying the Aug should just cost more. If Valve nerf the Aug, it will become useless. I think 3500$ is fair price. So you will have to choose between M4 and one extra utility or just the aug.
2019-03-02 11:35
Could also work of course. But i like the idea of differentiating the weapons more
2019-03-02 11:54
Increase cost to $3200, decrease movement speed with the weapon overall, especially when scoped and make the first bullet accuracy worse. Could decrease armor penetration as well, but i dont think thats necessary .
2019-03-02 11:13
#26
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United States ImFat 
Lower fire rate is the best option imo
2019-03-02 11:26
#32
PokeMon | 
United States Acetk 
thats how the gun was in the previous versions of cs as well, would make the most sense.
2019-03-02 11:37
+1
2019-03-02 15:23
#28
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World neomax360 
I think the stats of AUG should stay the same, if Valve change the stat the gun will just become useless and everyone would be back to M4. They just have to increase the price. the cost of Aug should be something around 3450 $ (M4 price + 1 utility). So players will either choose to buy AUG or buy M4 with one more utility. So we will see more often aug and M4 according to the strats and what player decide.
2019-03-02 11:29
they could remove the scope and then it's skill based
2019-03-02 12:29
#50
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World neomax360 
then the AUG will become useless... Why will you buy AUG with no scope with you can have M4 for lower price?
2019-03-02 12:31
#51
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Singapore Blloopy 
Because it is more accurate and can one shot hs at close range.
2019-03-02 12:35
if you are close the aug can 1 shot hs the m4 cannot
2019-03-02 12:37
It's still skill based , I saw guys pick it up and suck with it...
2019-03-02 15:25
#29
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Other khorkalba 
Nothing to see here except a bunch of AWP noobs crying because their pay2win advantage has been narrowed.
2019-03-02 11:34
#33
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Netherlands Removed 
>pay2win >csgo ...................................
2019-03-02 11:39
Dont fix AUG, buff every M4 to be strong enough to counter ak-47
2019-03-02 11:58
Just make it one shot atleast at closer ranges...
2019-03-02 15:28
The gun is too good for the cheap price. 3350-3400.
2019-03-02 11:58
change title of thread to how to destroy the Aug
2019-03-02 12:06
lower fire rate, +350$ - dead gun in a week
2019-03-02 12:07
remove scope
2019-03-02 12:13
u smart
2019-03-02 12:28
#45
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
2) + 4) in some balance should work. Reducing movement speed scoped is good too. That should work well.
2019-03-02 12:27
remove scope
2019-03-02 12:28
#49
sh1ro | 
Latvia denzyE 
AUG is really good for the ct side as peekers adv on t side is way to op, they need to nerf it to 20 bullets and increase price the 1 shot in head is really good
2019-03-02 12:31
didnt ask
2019-03-02 12:37
#56
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Vietnam ponmemes 
all these people wanting unnecessary changes don't realise that the only good fix for the aug is to revert it back to 3300
2019-03-02 14:18
3.) Make the spread while scoped in wider this is not logical lol
2019-03-02 14:19
#58
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Russia Pushkins 
1 and 2 is enough tbh
2019-03-02 14:29
#61
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Portugal Benjff 
I agree about making the price a litle bit more expensive like bringing it back to its old price but imo this gun still deserve a place in CS , it makes the CT side easier for pro competitive so like there are less random things ( just remember before how pros were struggling on CT side , now it brought more teams on the top like ENCE , Renegades , Vitality ... more teams for more upsets and more show ) Maybe you re true aswell for the 2nd point , even if people don t scope medium and short range when they see an ennemi i find it stupid that there isn t a delay from unscope to scope accuracy
2019-03-02 14:32
#64
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Portugal Zedonp 
so you agree that you should lose a long range duel with a scoped weapon just cuz it takes 10mins to scope in and shoot? Thats just dumb, then we should also add more delay to the fire switch on famas and glock cuz you change it too quick and can burst after tapping.
2019-03-02 14:54
1.) Revert back the price to 3300$ or maybe even 3400$ would make sense. It would still be used, but wouldnt be the default buy since money is tight on CT side. 2.) Make the time to scope longer and make it innacurate while scoping in so you need time before you can shoot after scoping(just like with the awp) Idk if this solves anythink. Imo the problem is that you can hold super tight angles. The aug is rarely used for "agressive play". 3.) Make the spread while scoped in wider i hope you mean the spread while spraying. first shot accuracy should be untouched. 4.) Reduce the fire rate of the gun while scoped in would be good balance wise, since this makes it more into an DMR instead of a scoped m4. But it would be a weird, unrealistic mechanic, kinda like th negev. i dont know if valve likes that since they want to appeal to new players.
2019-03-02 14:33
#72
PokeMon | 
United States Acetk 
For no4 the Aug functioned with a decreased scoped firerate in all previous versions on of cs.
2019-03-02 15:25
i know, i loved 1.6 and even CZ... but valve wasnt the dev back then, and i think they have a different way of thinking. they are targeting a new audience-new players and not the old hardcore fans. At least thats my impression.
2019-03-02 15:40
#63
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Portugal Zedonp 
nº2 is just retarded, the price will be reverted after the major, thats pretty much a given, i just don't think the waepon is that much overpowered, it just takes some time to find ways around it. Changing the weapons again and again will def create more imbalances. Besides whats the point on having guns that have no use or are too bad to even think about it? just cuz u can't find a way around it. what's next? take 1tap from ak cuz it kills with 1 hit and its too OP?
2019-03-02 14:50
make the gun jam every 3rd bullet so you have to click again to unjam it every time you scope in take 1 damage because it hurts your eyesight you can only quickscope and 360 with it to get kills otherwise it’ll do damage but it won’t kill anyone
2019-03-02 15:32
Valve needs to hire you...
2019-03-02 16:08
ty men ))))
2019-03-02 16:11
#79
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Europe Joliti9 
put the price to 3350 because if you take the scope it's basically a M4A4 and then the Ak is too op at watching choke holds or peeking so it would balance many situations and maybe change the armor penetration
2019-03-02 16:12
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