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Swedish SHUFFLE
3maaaDD | 
Ethiopia 3maaaDD 
Now that the major is finally over what changes to the Swedish scene will be made? Swedish superteam maybe?
2019-03-03 23:17
#1
3maaaDD | 
Ethiopia 3maaaDD 
-get right -dennis +flusha +krimz = new era
2019-03-03 23:18
yes wait 3 years for krimz
2019-03-03 23:25
maybe you should go back to sheep herding, since you clearly dont know how contracts works
2019-03-03 23:27
#15
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North America B0bbutttoast 
Clearly you don't his buyout is obviously way too big for NiP
2019-03-03 23:29
still they dont need to wait 3 years...... na brain
2019-03-03 23:30
#19
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North America B0bbutttoast 
If I had a dollar for every IQ point you had, I would be the poorest man in the world.
2019-03-03 23:30
yes you would have 2 times what you have now.. so 20 dallars
2019-03-03 23:31
#23
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North America B0bbutttoast 
I agree you have 20 IQ points.
2019-03-03 23:31
yes like i said 2 times what you have on your bank account so 10x2=20 i should be able to calculate that
2019-03-03 23:32
#25
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North America B0bbutttoast 
I have it on my bank account? That doesn't seem very smart for someone to keep their money on top of the account as opposed to inside of it.
2019-03-03 23:33
sry we have our money on our account in swerden mybad, thought you na guys had the same
2019-03-03 23:34
#50
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Sweden AtTheGates_ 
Argue all you want. But as a native speaker of the language I think it's pretty low to bully a non native speaker for their english. Please tell me, do you know any swedish? Are you able to speak any non-english language as well as we are able to speak english? I might be wrong but I assume probably not. Then please don't bully somebody because of their language difficulties, it's kinda ignorant. Btw, not saying Gohjavlar isn't at fault either. But you both sound like 12 year olds.
2019-03-03 23:56
#56
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North America B0bbutttoast 
Were' sitting here making dumb jokes for 15 minutes and that's your take away? Jeeeesus bro let loose a bit, live a little.
2019-03-04 03:51
He seems a bit insecure tbh
2019-03-04 07:17
How about that other guy? And the first guy, forget about it. And dont even get me started on the third guy. owwh that third guy really takes the cake.
2019-03-06 18:45
#126
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CIS ZILTOID 
kinda ironic coming from someone posting on a video game forum
2019-03-04 13:14
#210
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United States josh2l 
why do people have to be toxic/rude?
2019-03-04 22:04
#28
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Sweden Cruxor 
Lmao he really outplayed himself lol
2019-03-03 23:33
+1 teach me your ways
2019-03-03 23:35
Na am I right guys. In all seriousness who in America would learn any scandanavian laungauge outside of hereditary reasons.
2019-03-04 08:16
#86
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Sweden Cruxor 
"I am right" wtf you haven't even been arguing here?
2019-03-04 11:14
#87
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Azerbaijan kvestinmak 
Du er sgu en klaphat
2019-03-04 11:14
#100
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Denmark belikeme 
nice fakeflag btw
2019-03-04 12:33
#282
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Azerbaijan kvestinmak 
i used translator
2019-03-06 08:09
#98
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Denmark belikeme 
Dont talk shit about my scandinavian brothers
2019-03-04 12:32
Scandinavia_7_majors_world_7_majors
2019-03-04 15:47
I'm serious, the population of Scandinavia combined is smaller than the whole population of California, my local county has more encompassing citizens than Norway, learning a a language like Chinese , Russian French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, or German is far more beneficial in the long term than learning Danish, Norwegian Finnish, or Swedish, most of Scandinavia is covered in permafrost and borderline wasteland. The two largest cities in Denmark isn't actually on the Danish peninsula that borders Germany, Denmark is comprised of many very closet together islands not a bad country to live in or work in, or speak in, almost certainly inherently, but certainly not as influential in global politics, or the globalized economy.
2019-03-05 01:48
Scandinavia Finland Pick one noob geography
2019-03-05 02:20
FInland is Nordic country yes retard?
2019-03-05 07:43
nordic scandinavia pick one
2019-03-06 11:31
Borders Baltic sea and Sweden and Norway
2019-03-06 16:36
I like to believe that Finland is one of us, dont you? :(
2019-03-06 19:16
Hmm you make good points in this argument that everyone should learn a scandinavian language, and also its true all of scandinavian is covered in permafrosted wasteland. And that about denmark is True aswell, its so retarded that they have their biggest cities on remote Islands with No land connection.
2019-03-05 06:37
The argument is irrelevant whether a language should be learned is up to the learners not the arguing kids on HLTV
2019-03-05 07:44
Lmao
2019-03-04 08:16
wtf
2019-03-03 23:45
wat? im not afraid to admit my iq points online
2019-03-03 23:46
Congratz, man, you is very smart
2019-03-03 23:49
>20 iq points >smart pick one na brain
2019-03-03 23:49
that’s a lot of damage, m8
2019-03-03 23:50
sry not meant to make you sad ;( i take it back sorri
2019-03-03 23:51
it’s ok I forgive you men((
2019-03-03 23:52
thx men no repot me men i get 10 years prison men
2019-03-03 23:52
with 20 iq you are considered smart in NA dude
2019-03-04 14:07
No NA's average is 40, so im more stupid Than Them
2019-03-04 15:45
#85
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Mongolia k0ng0 
Haha such a Good comment hahahhah
2019-03-04 11:13
nope, india poorer
2019-03-05 05:04
Krimz signed his career away staying on washed up fnati
2019-03-04 04:23
#190
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Denmark fuzeCSGO 
JW killed him before he could finish
2019-03-04 20:11
#79
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
Or rez could join fnatic
2019-03-04 11:05
Krimz could join NIP
2019-03-05 07:00
#249
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
hip is full old guys.fnatic has young players except xizt
2019-03-05 11:33
#167
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Sweden meistr0 
Money talks dude, lol.
2019-03-04 16:00
ofc money talks but not at nip-fnatic shuffle lmao
2019-03-04 19:01
It would now cuz both are shit
2019-03-04 19:19
Reply needs to have actual content They are both shit since 2017
2019-03-04 20:13
#89
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Argentina artemioo 
Imagine having dennis and get right in the same team
2019-03-04 11:19
Yes 2 washed up bots. Both good in their prime but for now they are holding the team back
2019-03-04 12:16
#144
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Argentina artemioo 
Get right should’ve been cut like 3 years ago, alongside friberg and Xizt. And dennis sucks ass wtf
2019-03-04 13:42
Gtr hindering the Swedish scene by taking up a spot even though he’s shit :/
2019-03-04 21:23
+Rez
2019-03-05 06:59
#290
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Australia weapon_ 
Unfortunately doubtful.. Nip and flusha dnt mix..
2019-03-06 09:21
same with gtr and c9 which almost happened remember. Dont thik the orgs really care because rn both nip adn fnatic are dogshit
2019-03-06 09:24
-dennis +flusha
2019-03-03 23:18
#35
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
maybe -twist +flusha
2019-03-03 23:41
#145
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Argentina artemioo 
Twist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dennis
2019-03-04 13:43
#168
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Sweden meistr0 
????????????????????????????? Twist >>>>>>>>> Dennis & Bot_Right, lol.
2019-03-04 16:01
flusha just flusha just 24 hours ago: ''im taking a break from cs'' still everyone mentioning flusha because they are to lazy to read why he isnt on cloud9's roster anymore
2019-03-04 04:09
You don’t think teams contact him under his break or what?
2019-03-04 15:03
#169
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United Kingdom Peath 
Taking a break because his mother died means that he ISN'T PLAYING CS. Why would you spend tonnes of money to buy out a contract of a guy that isn't active. It makes no sense.
2019-03-04 16:05
It does though. You know he’s coming back. He left c9 and isn’t under contract so doesn’t that mean he’s free right?
2019-03-04 16:25
He isn't under contract? Was that in the news article? Serious question. I just thought he was taking break and could come back if he wanted
2019-03-04 21:37
Pretty sure he got released and isn’t under contract. I mean if he ask to come back they’ll probably get him back since he’s the best player they’ll ever have
2019-03-04 21:42
#244
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United Kingdom Peath 
Even if he's not under contract (I can't remember the article tbh), they'd still have to be paying a salary to someone who's inactive for an indefinite period of time, and him being paid to do literally nothing is just going to guilt trip him into wanting to play, whilst not being anywhere near his best. It makes no sense for either party.
2019-03-05 09:29
#3
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United States Lazerz 
F0rest Flusha Lekr0 REZ Krimz
2019-03-03 23:19
#4
3maaaDD | 
Ethiopia 3maaaDD 
maybe remove lekro for an awper. Maybe nawwk worth the gamble
2019-03-03 23:21
#9
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United States Lazerz 
Lekr0 is an IGL isnt he? besides i dont think f0rest/flusha have time for a newer player to develop
2019-03-03 23:25
#68
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Finland Jardeet 
no its not worth the gamble because if they remove lekr0 they lose legend status at major xD
2019-03-04 08:12
flusha igl ?
2019-03-03 23:23
#7
3maaaDD | 
Ethiopia 3maaaDD 
Yes he was igl before in c9 and fnatic
2019-03-03 23:24
#6
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Sweden wyv0 
A shuffle is irrelevant, Swedish scene hasnt had a superstar player since getright and olofmeister
2019-03-03 23:24
#8
3maaaDD | 
Ethiopia 3maaaDD 
Krimz?? Did you even watch cs 2018. He was just below s1mple for half of 2018
2019-03-03 23:25
#11
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United States Lazerz 
i love krimz but he never touched s1mple in 2018, he was maybe close for the first 2/3 months but fell off instantly
2019-03-03 23:25
You don’t need to “touch” s1mples level to consider being a star. S1mple is on an other level compared to others. Krimz was easily a star player during the start and end of 2018 otherwise he wouldn’t be top 10 in the hltv ranking
2019-03-03 23:29
#16
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United States Lazerz 
you said "just below" i told u, thats not true now ur talking about being a star??? how???
2019-03-03 23:29
Messed up thought you was the Swedish guy above
2019-03-03 23:36
#82
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
Krimz was top 2 for first 4 months of 2018 and top 4 upto first 6 months.
2019-03-04 11:08
LMAO so how do you define star player ?
2019-03-04 11:46
#118
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Denmark MeToxi 
So do you really think that krimz is close to the same level as s1mple?
2019-03-04 13:07
Nobody said that, the argument is whether krimz is star player or not.
2019-03-04 13:09
#123
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Denmark MeToxi 
At first. But then it changed to whether krimz was close to s1mple or not. I don't think he is close to s1mple level but apparently you do as that is what your comment is related to. In context you said krimz is almost as good as s1mple where as out of context you just said he is a star player. Out of context I'd agree with you. Not with context though.
2019-03-04 13:12
Krimz is very good player, maybe best in Fnatic. obviously s1mple is in league of his own. krimz is not at par with S1mple. No one is arguing that. Clearly my question to the person was , how did he define "Star Player" ? If he compares all the star Player with S1mple then clearly no one would surpass s1mple's numbers.
2019-03-04 13:23
It was whether krimz was a superstar, at first, but you joined it the part where there was an argument over how close krimz's skill is/was to s1mple's
2019-03-05 19:02
#12
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Sweden wyv0 
He's good and a highly rated star player but not s1mple, niko, coldzera level. Astralis makes no sense though, ive never seen device as a superstar although he always put out superstar ratings. He's like the most worst superstar player ive ever seen, idk.
2019-03-03 23:27
You don’t need a superstar for the team to accomplish stuff, just look at ENCE and what they were able to do. If you make a Swedish team built around krimz flusha and f0rest/Rez you got a good core. Then either you make flusha igl or get golden +awper
2019-03-03 23:31
#70
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Sweden LynXelele 
They need to keep atleast 3 players from the current core to keep legend status
2019-03-04 08:15
#207
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Sweden wyv0 
True but you get real consistency out of a team if you have a superstar
2019-03-04 21:59
Then get krimz ezpz
2019-03-04 22:01
#18
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Portugal NabasKi 
nip won't do any roster changes, mark my words
2019-03-03 23:30
Notorious from nip but hopefully they’ll do something. Swedish scene is so fucking bad rn
2019-03-03 23:31
#26
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Portugal NabasKi 
fnatic might be the ones coming up with roster changes
2019-03-03 23:33
#36
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
-twist +flusha
2019-03-03 23:42
#37
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Portugal NabasKi 
twist isnt the problem in fnatic. xizt is
2019-03-03 23:44
+1thos wouldn’t do shit sense xist is still in the team
2019-03-03 23:47
#129
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
xizt should just play a supportive role, he was pretty good in faze but he is just so fucking bad at being an IGL I honestly don’t know why he wants to keep pursuing a role he clearly is not fit for. He can’t veto for shit and his midround calls are pathetic, his strats are also MDL level.
2019-03-04 13:18
his faze run was overrated. That was faze in thier prime when both niko guardian and rain played well
2019-03-04 13:37
#146
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Say what you want but he was a decent support player and had some pretty clutch plays and rounds. As long as he doesn’t IGL he can be a decent addition to a team, it’s just his silver strats and his terrible vetoes that ruin him as a player.
2019-03-04 13:50
I think they will, either before or after the next major... probably after though.
2019-03-04 13:11
rez flusha denis f0rest olof
2019-03-03 23:33
#80
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India Noobdian1 
-dennis +Lekr0 (igl)
2019-03-04 11:05
olof will never go to nip imo
2019-03-04 13:11
#30
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United States FlagMaster 
forest rez lekro olofmeister krimz
2019-03-03 23:34
No igl?
2019-03-03 23:38
#38
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Portugal NabasKi 
lekr0's nip's igl, what are you talking about
2019-03-03 23:44
He’s a shit igl and clearly is a better player when he’s not an igl. He was so much better in fnatic compared with nip. If you want lekr0 in a super team why would you limit his ability while running shit strats?
2019-03-03 23:46
#69
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Finland Jardeet 
>shit igl >top 8 major k
2019-03-04 08:13
compexity also made top 8 last major. same with hellraiser. Overperforming does not mean that theyre a good team. Just look at ence lol, they will 100% be shit after the major
2019-03-04 10:58
faze also made top 8. So niko=great igl by your shit logic
2019-03-04 10:59
#78
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Finland Jardeet 
doesnt mean theyre all tier 1 igls with the best minds for the game but it means they arent shit
2019-03-04 11:03
hes a shit igl everyone knows it
2019-03-04 11:06
#88
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Finland Jardeet 
rofl you know nothing at all about cs i can see that from all the retarded shit youve posted all over this thread. stay small kid 😎
2019-03-04 11:16
xD imagine thinking ENCE will do something after the major. It’s like a budget gambit team only difference is that gambit won the major lol
2019-03-04 12:17
#103
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Finland Jardeet 
ez4ence
2019-03-04 12:44
ez lose you mean xD
2019-03-04 12:48
#130
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
besides Olof can IGL as well. He was IGL for fnatic during Atlanta when half the roster went to GODSENT.
2019-03-04 13:20
nono olof as igl is a horrible choice
2019-03-04 13:36
#53
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Sweden osnolsson 
no awper, no igl
2019-03-03 23:59
#180
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United States FlagMaster 
As if they had those now
2019-03-04 17:58
#181
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Sweden osnolsson 
No nip doesnt but they should
2019-03-04 18:00
The sad thing is, there are no proven IGL's in Sweden right now unless they want to take the risk and get Hampus. Although seeing the current state of Swedish CS, they really need to take risks as almost all of the old guard are declining.
2019-03-05 04:43
#263
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Sweden osnolsson 
Golden is probably the best IGL in sweden atm
2019-03-05 18:30
#33
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South America vxnsxcx 
f0rest gtr rez lekro olof/flusha/krimz
2019-03-03 23:39
Gtr in a superteam lol
2019-03-04 15:24
#295
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Bangladesh drvken 
lul who cares about Sweden cs in 2019
2019-03-06 11:27
Newfag spoted
2019-03-06 16:19
#307
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Bangladesh drvken 
oof
2019-03-06 16:20
why would you shuffle when the most important swedish player is currently taking a break?
2019-03-03 23:54
Might only be gone for a month or so who knows. Anyways of nip and fnatic don’t work together flusha might Consider going to faze. Even though he’s taking a break he’s still getting offers from teams
2019-03-03 23:59
#104
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Finland Jardeet 
because OPs brain is afk
2019-03-04 12:45
>implying that there is any chance of nip taking him if he wasnt in break
2019-03-05 07:10
We could for once think that NiP is a smart org.
2019-03-05 07:27
#51
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Sweden osnolsson 
Fnatic has already said that they are not making changes
2019-03-03 23:58
Could be all bullshit tbh. No org tweets out that they are considering roster changes
2019-03-04 00:00
#55
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Sweden osnolsson 
Some puts out that they are NOT making changed tho, it was Samuelsson who put it out
2019-03-04 00:16
#57
kazub | 
Finland JSR1 
Fnatic said that they wont change their roster
2019-03-04 03:56
That doesn’t mean shit
2019-03-04 15:24
Golden, Lekr0, REz, F0rest, flusha/krimz/twist
2019-03-04 03:58
Need both krimz and flusha in a Swedish superteam. Rather have both of em instead of lekro
2019-03-04 07:00
Lekr0 is a good player but he can't perform to 100% because he is igling. Krimz and flusha are big "if": flusha is still part of cloud9, and krimz buyout might be too big for NiP (unless Fnatic buys f0rest and Rez)
2019-03-04 14:14
Krimz and flusha are not if, they are easily the 2 best Swedish players rn. Rez and f0rest are close but still not better
2019-03-04 15:25
#59
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Russia ViktorSteel 
flusha krimz f0rest brollan draken
2019-03-04 04:02
Not sure about draken, he’s to inconsistent and was shit in fnatic. I know he was good in nip but that was a long time ago
2019-03-04 21:32
#261
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Russia ViktorSteel 
Fnatic really never gave him a chance and he was amazing in nip. Also he carries pretty hard against those lower teams he is playing now.
2019-03-05 16:38
Pointless threads. No real impact shuffle will happen until get right retires, which for some reason he refuses to do.
2019-03-04 04:10
Almost anything is pointless then... do you really think I made this thread so fnatic and nip could see it lol
2019-03-04 21:37
kick dennis fixed
2019-03-04 04:14
4 man team great solution
2019-03-04 15:26
Bra16L Bra16n
2019-03-06 09:08
you cant make swedish superteam atm all good players are in slump
2019-03-04 07:06
krimz, flusha f0rest and rez are all playing good?
2019-03-04 11:00
#84
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
Krinz,brollan, f0rest, rez, flusha if he comes back.
2019-03-04 11:10
#67
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India LodFresa 
Fnatic Twist JW Krimz Juliano ZaaZ NIP Rez Forest Lekro Olof GTR Once flusha is back, -olof + flusha
2019-03-04 07:22
#71
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Finland Vkims 
Fnatic already said they will stick together with current team and that is why Nip cant change any players So no shuffles incoming in swedish scene
2019-03-04 08:15
Flusha to NiP???
2019-03-04 17:29
He's taking a break for now. His mum just died. Chill and stop speculating. Señor VAC will come back when he wants. Also probably no shuffles. NiP have what it takes to make top 5. (I can sit here and defend Dennis if you really want me to) Fnatic have a way to go but can do it with their lineup (maybe change Xizt for a decent IGL)
2019-03-04 19:26
Dennis is supposed to frag though. He’s equally as shit as gtr rn, hows that good enough?
2019-03-04 21:31
I said they have what it takes in terms of future development. They have the pieces for success do they not? If Lekr0, F0rest, REZ and Dennis can frag at the same time, or even if three of them just show up it's gonna be good. They need to work on consistent form and bam, NiP top 5 Dennis showed some promise towards the end of the major (before the Astralis game) so hopefully they can work on that. I'd love to see Dennis in the G2/ Fnatic form again. I mean who wouldn't? The man has the capability to be a beast, we just gotta see it again.
2019-03-04 21:40
Lekros fragging ability compared to when he was in fnatic is so shit. In the long run it’s better for them to get an igl and either kick gtr/Dennis becuase lekr0 peak is way higher than both of em. Obviously gtr has the highest peak but he’ll never reach it again unfortunately
2019-03-04 21:44
I feel like GTR could IGL, the way he approaches the game and how much he knows combined with the experience and how hard he works could let him be a solid IGL for the team. If that happens, he frees up lekro to frag and maybe secondary call. If this happens then NiP becomes a f*cking powerhouse lol If Dennis doesn't perform again maybe -Dennis +twist as a permanent awp would really help the ninjas. In all reality I do see a world where Lekr0 can balance fragging and being an IGL but it's gonna take a while for everyone to get running at full force in NiP. Hope they can sort it without roster moves, but worse case, the aforementioned moves are pretty good ones. Edit - If you're also the player that your tag and flair say, then as a player you gotta respect GTR, what he's done, and what he's doing now. He's changed his role so much in order to be able to still play top level cs in a team.
2019-03-04 21:49
Ofcourse I respect him but I also think it’s time for the Swedish scene to take new talents. Someone like nawwk good really be good for both fnatic and nip. Awper is what both teams are also missing. Jw isn’t himself anymore he was the only Swedish awper that was considered tier 1 player. If nip actually becomes better then fine they won’t need any changes but I just feel like both Swedish lineups never will be number 1 unless they do a big shuffle
2019-03-04 21:53
ffs cause he's taking a break doesn't mean he doesn't receive any offers . They still can make offers for him doesn't mean he won't talk w/any org when he's on a break
2019-03-05 11:14
This NiP lineup played for 9 months together already and proved that they will never be a consistant top 5 team.
2019-03-05 11:21
They have the pieces to do it but they're not using the players properly. Lekr0 and Dennis need to be fragging. While Lekr0 could balance the IGL role and fragging, it'd probably be easier for a player like GTR to in game lead to free up Lek0's potential like when he was on godsent or Fnatic. With a few changes in roles then they can be a consistent top 5 contender. We saw Dennis pick up his form in the vitality game after the community were being assholes. It's ok to call out someone for not performing, but not ok to harass them and be assholes. So hopefully at WESG Dennis can perform because NiP will always need at least 3 stars playing well out of Lekr0, F0rest, REZ, and Dennis to be a top 5 contender. Also just be happy that NiP made top 8 for the first time since 2016
2019-03-05 13:07
You are delusional and I dont understamd why. There is nothing wrong with saying that this lineup will never be consistent top 5 because there is legit proof or hope that it will happen. None of the NiP players are tier 1 players in sweden except maybe f0rest. They are also together for NINE months already. This is the average lifespan of a lineup. Trust me, they wont all of a sudden have their peak performance of this lineup. Thats normally happening after 3 months and guess where NiP was after 3 months after adding Lekr0. Role changes? GTR IGL (again)? Why? Why would you try it again. There is a reason he never tried it again after the desaster of 2015. You want to blame the commubity (partly) for dennis not performing? The community overrated the fuck out of dennis before joining NiP. Its not like the community all of a sudden made him worse. Being happy with them barely reaching TOP EIGHT?? Just because it took a long time since the last playoffs at a major it doesnt mean we should be happy for them if we think they can be a top 5 team. They should have reached semis for that. Before you come with the Astralis argument - Astralis played elowise the worst top 8 team in the quarterfinal. Go figure.
2019-03-05 13:33
1. Not delusional, I'm gonna address each of your points properly with an explanation behind it. NiP do have the pieces to be a top 5 team. F0est, REZ and Lekr0 are better and more consistent than anyone on Fnatic (WHO DIDN'T EVEN MAKE TOP 16) apart from Krimz/ Flusha who are probably the best Swedish players. Being realistic, the problem is consistency and comms with NiP and that's something you can work on and improve. Comms problems, you can see examples of this in the games if you watch them. You can see the same players holding the same angle or bumping into each other in chaotic situations (that train game with Lekro on an awp and GTR on a mag7 on the A site of train playing Ct as an example just off the top of my head) 2. Lekr0 is STILL leaning how to be an IGL. It's not something you can do from scratch in just a year and expect to be good at it. Arguing for GTR to do it because of his experience and how hard he works as well as how well he understands the game. 3. GTR trying to be an in game leader again isn't necessarily a bad idea. It's been 4 YEARS and we now have more resources available to learn how to in game lead. If he can get defaults and some more advanced set pieces right with solid fundamentals it's workable. Watching a lot of demos and analysing them can help with mid-round calls like rotates etc. And he watches a LOT of cs. He doesn't need over the top tactical strats like Ex6 or the ability to call everything perfectly like Glaive. If you get the fundamentals down at a very stable and solid level you can beat better teams, case and point ENCE. 4. I am in NO WAY blaming the community for Dennis underperforming. If you could read properly I was criticising the community for how they REACTED to him playing badly. 5. YES, I am happy with them being top 8 because it shows PROGRESS. Not everyone can be Astralis and change players then become even more godlike and barely drop maps over an entire YEAR. And ANYONE meeting Astralis in the playoffs wasn't gonna make the semis or finals. Even thought NiP were the lowest seeded team, they still would be able to beat teams like renegades (2-1 most lekely with close games) and FaZe (don't even know if it'd be close or not, faze is a shitshow right now). They still made it to top 8. I've supported this team since early 2014 as watching GTR and F0rest got me into cs, so I'm happy that they've showed progress since last major. It's not always clear as to where NiP stand in the rankings as they can take down top teams but also lose to really shit teams. That's all your points addressed.
2019-03-05 14:29
1. You forgot olofmeister. f0rest is better than all players not named KRiMZ on fnatic, REZ and Lekr0 maybe aswell but I wouldnt really count on that since fnatic is a bad team anyway with Xizt as IGL. You think the problems are consistency and comms which can be improved on? Alright - why the fuck did that not happen in the first nine months together? This wont magically happen after 9 months together. Please stop thinking that. It. wont. happen. 2. Sure but I dont really see why we would expect Lekr0 to be a good IGL even if we give him 2 more years. I never saw anything that convinces me. Some players just arent IGLs. 3. No you dont get my point. Its not like oh hey he tried it 4 years ago he could be better now. Its more like he tried it 4 years ago and NEVER tried it again even though in theory he is way more suited to be an IGL than fucking Lekr0. I dont know, for me it says that GTR and the team knows he cant do it. 4. If you dont blame the community then why do you even add it. 5. It shows progress? Then please tell me if you think that the performance from NiP at this major was better than the last major. For me it wasnt. The placement might trick you but you shouldnt go by placements. According to the placements mibr performed like a top 4 team this major which I think is not true at all. You should always go by performance in the tournament like how did they play against top/good/bad teams etc. I dont think that NiP would have beaten any of the teams you named except FaZe which would be a 50:50 for me since like you said they are a shitshow. They can take down top teams but also lose to really shit teams? Welcome to cs in 2019 - almost every team ranked like NiP can do that.
2019-03-05 18:06
Jesus Christ you're just a straight up NiP hater. Blinded by hate and you won't listen to reason lol
2019-03-05 18:43
How is any of this hate rofl You have no idea how I would argue if I would be blinded by hate you seriously think that the fanboy bs you said was reason? What a waste of my time holy hell
2019-03-05 18:49
All you did was repeat your initial points and then include bits of mine (the faze bit) with a sprinkling of new content which wasn't really anything special. There wasn't any actual content you could use to for a proper argument.
2019-03-05 18:58
lol I hope I will remember your name so I wont have to waste my time again with a deluded NiP fanboy that has no idea how to argue
2019-03-05 19:00
#73
Finland MMAd 
rez twist brollan flusha krimz/lekro
2019-03-04 08:15
Without a doubt krimz over lekr0. Easily the best Swedish player rn
2019-03-04 21:30
#83
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Israel ZiinTotH 
It's weird to say but nip doesn't really need a change in roster. fnatic on the other hand look really weak as a team and for most of the individuals involved.
2019-03-04 11:10
both team clearly need changes. top 8 is not good enough for the swedish scene. lekr0 is clealy a shit igl and his stats also got worse. and why is get_right still playing andt taking a spot even though there is swedish talents like nawwk out there
2019-03-04 12:30
#93
Xyp9x | 
Sweden v1king 
I don't think NiP will change anything atm.. why should they ? BUT Fnatic on the other hand will do several changes as usual.. hopefully reasonable this time :D
2019-03-04 12:20
both teams are shit lol. a top 8 in a major is not good enough. keeping getright and dennis is limiting the team.
2019-03-04 12:33
#107
Xyp9x | 
Sweden v1king 
so all under top 8 in a major should make constantly changes to the roster ?? .. doesn't make sense lol
2019-03-04 12:49
Ofcourse not but it’s not good coming from Swedes who previously been winning majors
2019-03-04 13:02
You are right. NiP shouldnt make any changes if they dont want to better than #8.
2019-03-04 13:21
GT is dead weight, needs to be replaced.
2019-03-04 19:31
Yes he’s shit
2019-03-04 20:09
Sweden never does good shuffles. A superteam would be: Flusha Krimz Jw F0rest Dennis/Leckro That team would be very interesting to watch.
2019-03-04 12:24
+1 maybe get golden as igl jw is to inconsisten and they should get new talents instead. maybe nawwk his been really good in tier2/3. he might be the new swedish star
2019-03-04 12:31
Jw? Dennis? You can't be serious lol...
2019-03-04 13:06
Very serious, they play well togheter.
2019-03-04 17:13
Played... They stuck nowadays
2019-03-04 18:07
Jw is alright, Dennis though he is completely fucking dogshit
2019-03-04 21:28
Lag...
2019-03-04 13:06
#97
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Canada dzr! 
flusha olofm krimz jw f0rest
2019-03-04 12:32
might work, theyll need jw to be good again. not having a good awper might be an issue
2019-03-04 12:33
#102
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India L1nu5 
fnatic 2015 more or less not sure how that would work out tho in terms of relevance. Olof is inconsistent these days, JW isn't the awper he used to be back in 2014-16. However if at least 3 out of 5 players show up every game, the roaster might sail very well in the scene.
2019-03-04 12:44
Well krimz will definitely show up. Same with flusha so it’s all about f0rest or olof
2019-03-04 13:04
#105
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United States Globebuster 
swedistan cs 2k19 lul
2019-03-04 12:48
second place is the best liquid ever will be LOL. sweden scene at its worse is still better than liquid
2019-03-04 12:50
#109
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United States Globebuster 
soon NA will be top 1 again but its not easy to see this coming with 65 iq
2019-03-04 12:53
Top 1 again lol. They have never been top 1 wtf are you talking about
2019-03-04 12:58
#111
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United States Globebuster 
kid pls
2019-03-04 12:59
Please tell me. They have never been top 1. Winning a major and going back to being shit is not being fucking top 1
2019-03-04 13:03
#117
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United States Globebuster 
its clear you dont believe yourself NA top 2 atm but will be top 1 again when astralis falls and its just a matter of time
2019-03-04 13:06
top 2 but loses to a team below top 15 lol
2019-03-04 13:25
NA top 1 OMEGALUL nt yankee
2019-03-04 13:11
racist reported
2019-03-04 13:27
#124
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
0 good awpers in Sweden no chance. f0rest awping is a fucking travesty. If NiP kicked gtr and got a decent awper they might have a shot. They should look into the t2 scene and pick up some young pub star.
2019-03-04 13:12
#134
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Russia SP3C73R 
They must take nawwk & close him in room with a computer for one month
2019-03-04 13:24
Try out nawwk
2019-03-04 13:35
walle comeback
2019-03-04 19:30
wtf going on here? + HeatoN
2019-03-04 13:13
+spawn
2019-03-04 21:27
get_right needs to play HIS fucking role again he sac's way too much for the Team right now i dont like dennis he doesnt fit into nip. lekro is fine, as much as i hate flusha.. but he would be the best option if he comes back soon enough
2019-03-04 13:14
why do you hate flusha? hes considered being goat if you only talk about csgo
2019-03-04 13:29
cuz he cheated like many others
2019-03-05 00:26
nice logic any evidence
2019-03-05 02:15
the evidence is there in many fucking demos
2019-03-05 02:19
Innocent until proven guilty... use your fucking brain.
2019-03-05 03:13
#128
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Austria raicoon1337 
Flusha jw dennis krimz olof Ez top1
2019-03-04 13:15
-dennis +f0rest/rez/nawwk
2019-03-04 13:35
#132
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Not gonna happen. atleast no players from nip to fnatic and fnatic to nip
2019-03-04 13:22
you can always believe
2019-03-04 13:35
#143
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Yeah but, krimz and Jw, Getright and forest is staying. Probs
2019-03-04 13:38
#147
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United Kingdom blitzer_ 
krimz flusha olofmeister lekro rez swedish superteam
2019-03-04 13:54
Nice team, to bad it won’t happen :/
2019-03-04 15:28
#150
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Spain ANUEL_AA 
just NIP has to kick get_right he is a legend but right now is a bot
2019-03-04 14:16
+10000
2019-03-04 15:28
No
2019-03-04 14:22
Yes
2019-03-04 15:28
There is no possible shuffle to make swedish scene great again. Fnatic and Nip both need an awper and a good igl. You can't even make a great team by mixing two giant organisations.
2019-03-04 15:26
btw people put olofmeister in swedish superteam that's funny af
2019-03-04 15:32
Olof is not doing shit in faze. Good chance that they kick both him and adren out. He hasn’t been himself since 2016
2019-03-04 15:31
i see best swedish teams here which have olofmesiter but not REZ, that's stupid
2019-03-04 15:33
Rez is young, its a good in the future + hes already good
2019-03-04 15:36
-Flusha back in Fnatic (Xizt removed) -Get_Right retire and become a coach or analyst
2019-03-04 17:16
Who will replace gtr then?
2019-03-04 17:25
#173
NiKo | 
Croatia AzorAhai 
F0rest GTR flusha dennis REZ
2019-03-04 17:18
Gtr in a supreteam isn’t a superteam
2019-03-04 17:26
#260
NiKo | 
Croatia AzorAhai 
Then myb -GTR +AWP
2019-03-05 14:48
Dennis? GTR? ROFL
2019-03-05 07:27
Not the actual shuffle but a shuffle that would be beneficial for the swedish scene Fnatic -Xizt -Jw +Golden +Lekr0 NiP -Dennis/Gtr -Lekr0 +Nawwk +Hampus Remain players Xizt Draken Discodoplan Flusha Dennis
2019-03-04 17:19
Flusha playing with tier 2/3 players is not worth his time. He’s 100% getting better offers than that
2019-03-04 17:27
Yes but that team is a team composing of the left over swedish players
2019-03-04 18:03
Why would flusha be in the left over team though? He’s clearly the second best Swedish player behind krimz
2019-03-04 21:27
#209
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Sweden Spaade 
no that would be me
2019-03-04 22:01
Maybe, on a good day
2019-03-04 22:07
Idk its just a team of all the other swedish players
2019-03-04 22:45
bruh
2019-03-04 23:34
That core could work -DiscoDoplan +JW since in my moves JW would be off fnatic Cause draken,Flusha JW,and xizt all played together for a time
2019-03-05 03:22
#196
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North America niftynick 
fnatic -twist +flusha -lekr0 +olofmeister
2019-03-04 21:29
Xizt is the problem, not twist
2019-03-04 22:08
lekro,twist,forest,rez,gtr xizt,jw,krimz,brollan,fluaha golden,draken,rain,dennis,olof hampus,disco doplan,freddieb,friberg,moddi 3 top 10 teams and 1 top 15 probably.
2019-03-04 22:17
why make 3 shit team. rather have one team that can be top 3
2019-03-04 22:23
also xizt is to shit for the swedish scene
2019-03-04 22:24
Ok, every person playing with him says otherwise but why take their word for it when you can take the word for a nobody on an hltv forum.
2019-03-04 22:26
yup he the best. clearly made fnatic better than the one with golden
2019-03-04 22:31
3 words for you. Departure of flusha.
2019-03-04 22:39
true true but still. they played together and everything went to shit
2019-03-04 22:44
Who is saying that? The NiP players? Oh thats why they kicked Xizt and became better. The FaZe players? Why did they not keep him permanently over olof then? The fnatic players? You mean the team that got so much worse since picking up Xizt?
2019-03-05 11:19
Everything you just said is retarded. Nip played with him for what, 6 years? Y, you are right, The players kicked him. Thats how an org works. Well he did not stay in faze because he was a standin, all involved knew Olof was coming back, atleast they manage to grab a title together before he left. Yes "The team you find to be worse" because of xizt (while i feel them to be a completely different team, only 2 players from The team you mean) wanted to play with him and they keep doing in because they still wants to.
2019-03-05 14:16
Btw nip became 10x times worse after he left. Took them close to a year to become close to how good they were in 2017 (when they won 2 titles and had better results overall)
2019-03-05 14:23
REZ flusha Brollan Lekr0 olof
2019-03-05 00:31
I like this. Olof and Flusha two older experienced gamers with younger hungry players.
2019-03-05 14:28
NiP: lekr0 f0rest REZ flusha JW Fnatic: Olof Dennis Twist Brollan KRIMZ New Team: pronax Freddyfrog Zinken Get_right relaxa
2019-03-05 02:26
Well here's my take on a Swedish shuffle. NIP: Forest Flusha Lekro Krimz Golden Fnatic: REZ Get_right JW Brollan Xizt
2019-03-05 04:58
Nip with that lineup would be deadly, only problem might be getting golden out of c9
2019-03-05 14:29
NiP = forest & get_right, and 3 other just complement..
2019-03-05 06:54
F0rest +1 but gtr is dogshit and hasn’t been good sense 2015
2019-03-05 14:30
Samuelsson (Fnatic's manager) has already confirmed that there will be no changes to fnatic's starting CSGO lineup.
2019-03-05 07:26
That Doesn’t mean shit
2019-03-06 00:36
gtr f0rest flusha Krimz JW Fifflaren talisman ez 87-0
2019-03-05 11:29
Not if gtr doesn’t step up
2019-03-05 14:31
The only reason NiP should make any changes is if Flusha is looking for offers or if Twist, Brollan, or Krimz becomes available from Fnatic. Regardless the only player they should be replacing really is Dennis, people might make the argument for GeT_RiGhT but I feel he's like TACO in SK, he doesn't look to be doing much in stats but after you kick him you're going to nosedive and fail because he does a lot more than just stats and frags. I'd say the ideal situation is Twist wants to come to NiP, if that happened that could honestly be a pretty super Swedish team because it fills in NiP's problem of having no AWP, they can already toe with the best of the world even with essentially 3 fragging players (Yes, I know a person who wants to keep GeT_RiGhT but recognizes he isn't too great at fragging sometimes, impossible!), imagine putting the best AWP in Sweden on that lineup and filling in the massive thing most teams abuse against them.
2019-03-05 14:34
superteam without krimz or flusha?? nononoono
2019-03-05 21:40
I mean, here is how i view it. The way Swedish politics are right now, you've got to build your core around Twist, plus 2 of the older players (Krimz/flusha or GeT_RiGhT/f0rest.) If you could build a Swedish superteam with any Swedish players I'd probably choose Krimz over REZ in the NiP lineup (Plus Twist over dennis) and you'd have essentially what I see as a team that really can do a lot of damage. It's about as super-team as is possible to see that. Lekr0/krimz to Fnatic for JW/Xizt would also work in that favor of being pretty much superteam, at least in my books.
2019-03-05 21:44
a countrys superteam is the team with the best 5 players in their role a swedish team without olofmeister, KRiMZ and flusha is not a swedish superteam
2019-03-06 08:16
+1mil
2019-03-06 09:03
Olofmeister ahhahahahahhhahahhaha More like Washedupmeister
2019-03-06 09:12
I disagree, a super-team doesn’t need to be the best possible mix-up of talent, FaZe proved this. It needs to realistically be the team with the least things to exploit and the most options to use.
2019-03-06 17:49
Yeah. You still need some firepower though and olofmeister is the best swedish player if he gets the roles for it.
2019-03-06 17:52
It depends on the style of play you’re going for as between who I’d choose for GeT_RiGhT or olofmeister, having f0rest, REZ (or krimz), and Twist would be providing enough firepower for the style NiP is playing currently. I mean, I think that the way NiP plays is very unique and can (at least against top teams) exploit a lot of weaknesses, but on the same end teams like Astralis just abuse their lack of a proper AWP player which changes how they play maps pretty largely. I think you could have another superteam with, Krimz, flusha, olofmeister, Twist, Lekr0. I say Lekr0 for IGL mostly because Sweden has a lack of really good IGLs and flusha has expressed disliking it before (Though that may have changed, and if it had then Lekr0 could still be a pretty good star player).
2019-03-06 18:01
ha..Swedish cs is more dead than a necrophilia party! I welcome any shuffle because it cannot be worse than the teams they have now. Pronax need to come out of retirement and make a team with good players in a good org. Now when Astralis has 3 majors, pronax needs to win the next fucking one he has to be first to get 4.
2019-03-05 18:52
Pronax was good but isn’t anymore. The best Swedish igl rn is goldn but he’s in an rn
2019-03-06 00:33
REZ flusha Brollan Lekr0 olof +1
2019-03-05 18:56
hello igl?
2019-03-05 18:59
HELLO LEKRO? ARE U STUPID?
2019-03-05 19:25
oh I thought we had a serious discussion about shuffle, how can u make a team without a real igl, clearly never worked
2019-03-05 19:32
propose something better
2019-03-05 21:44
Pronax, krimz, f0rest, igl + 2 best swedish players, rest idk olof is crap, flusha retired, get right is so bad dont even get me started, dennis is 50iq player, REZ is a noob, Lekro maybe he is not that bad. Hard to make a good team when every player is regressing.
2019-03-05 21:52
Flusha is taking a break not retired. He’s probably back in less than 2 months
2019-03-06 00:37
PRONAX HAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-03-06 12:52
CLEALY NO NOTION OF CSGO SWEDISH SCENE
2019-03-06 12:53
You have to have him in a team. Atleast if you are looking to win a major. You can laugh me of all u want nigga but truth is he got 3 and astralis got 3 majors, and god said pronax would have the 4th. Now fucking don't disrespect me again i will leak your ip and rest of hltv can bully your ass.
2019-03-06 18:23
LOL LEAK IT
2019-03-06 18:37
PRONAX CAN NOT FRAG ANYMORE DUMB ASS
2019-03-06 18:37
I'M SO AFRAID OF YOU LOLLLL
2019-03-06 18:37
He is as good as get right when it comes to fragging, so unless you are 75iq fanboy you understand TACTICS > get right. Get lost fool you lost this debate long ago
2019-03-06 18:40
FUNNY HOW NO ONE is picking pronax for their team and he has to create his own team with tier5 swedish player like ZNAJDER LOL pronax golden era is gone bro, he was a god igl, but we are in 2019 stop with the nostalgia and go watch demos
2019-03-06 18:45
Fine, all im saying is there is NO swedish team that will win another csgo major without pronax.
2019-03-06 18:48
#281
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Australia r1se2k 
2019-03-06 00:58
:0 bait 100% though
2019-03-06 09:04
Swedish superteam? I aren't think so
2019-03-06 09:14
i think so 4 majors remember?
2019-03-06 09:18
2015?
2019-03-06 09:36
But yes maybe they can form something up
2019-03-06 09:37
Ofcourse they can, they still have the skills. If they actually try to make a superteam they’ll probably be like top 3 or even better
2019-03-06 11:16
Well nothing is that simple, chemistry is the key
2019-03-06 11:52
Lerk0 R EZ krimz twist golden dennis brollan flusha draken f0rest
2019-03-06 11:35
#298
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Israel _69 
F0rest Flusha Krimz JW REZ
2019-03-06 11:38
#299
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Germany Constikdw 
As Flusha and golden are not available atm, here’s what I’d do: Fnatic: -xizt +Hampus -JW +Olof NiP: -Dennis +Disco doplan -get right +jw/nawwk/draken If flusha was available then I’d do Flusha to fnatic instead of Olof and then Olof to nip instead of disco
2019-03-06 11:38
Swedish Superteam: f0rest Get_RighT cArn dsn Gux
2019-03-06 11:45
Flusha/Brollan REZ nawwk KRIMZ f0rest
2019-03-06 11:57
Rez f0rest KRIMZ Brollan flusha coach pronax XD
2019-03-06 13:06
top 1
2019-03-07 15:02
time for young stars from sweden create a new team from scratch, and get a OG here and there when possible they need to stop joining teams like nip that wont kick gtr or fnatic with xzit etc
2019-03-06 18:39
yeah they should try nawwk. fnatic already got brollan so thats good
2019-03-07 15:02
Rez F0rest Krimz Twist Flusha
2019-03-06 18:41
nice lineup
2019-03-07 15:01
#326
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Sweden SammeMMII 
we actually need a superteam rn
2019-03-07 15:04
yeah needed it since 2017
2019-03-07 15:07
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