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God exist - 11 arguments
Denmark mibrbestteam 
For you to convince me that God does not exist will have to refute all these 11 arguments Watch from 10 to 20 minutes youtube.com/watch?v=4yRwG6zR7mA
2019-03-04 20:44
#2
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Norway rogueplayer 
God does exist Just not the way you think it is. Imagine a white old man in the skies in 2019 lmao Get educated kids
2019-03-04 20:45
reported for racism
2019-03-04 21:05
#233
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China maybe_banned 
+1 God is an Asian
2019-03-05 03:21
#328
blacK | 
Namibia Toonga 
God can see, asians cant. Impossible. God has rights, black people dont. Impossible. God is nice, white people aint. Impossible. God has legs, so does cows, god is a cow.
2019-03-05 19:25
#334
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China maybe_banned 
Did you just assume it's gender???
2019-03-05 23:32
#337
blacK | 
Namibia Toonga 
God is a cow with a d*ck. D*ck and t*ts
2019-03-06 11:32
now it's fine
2019-03-06 11:38
#18
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Other jakerr 
in bible there are all answers just fucking read it uneducated kids
2019-03-04 21:16
lmao
2019-03-04 22:04
#52
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Other jakerr 
hey hltv nerd
2019-03-04 22:05
hey!
2019-03-04 22:09
hey!
2019-03-04 22:33
hey!
2019-03-05 00:50
I haven't read the bible but are there any biochemistry or physiologyc or physic or even mathematic threads/articles/psalms?
2019-03-04 23:37
no.
2019-03-05 19:22
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
See Atheists? You're the one telling me to leave my faith, And you keep crying all over the media about Muslims impreaching their Religion in Europe meanwhile you're here in all over the social media telling us to leave our faith, I didn't tell you to leave your faith (Which is Atheism) so you don't have to tell me to leave my faith, thanks, You have your faith and I have mine.
2019-03-04 21:38
i can respect people having faith (atheism isn't faith btw) but did you seriously just compare muslims in europe to someone defending atheism on the internet?
2019-03-04 22:11
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
How is he defending Atheism? He's just trying to spread it, He's a hypocrite, "Get educated kid" Obviously publicly insulting people that follow certain Religions, Referring them to "uneducated", And when a religion-believer calls Atheism out, They cry all over the media, Much hypocrisy.
2019-03-04 22:15
okay first of all how is it not defending atheism? he literally REPLIED to a guy trying to SPREAD RELIGION :D also i was trying to point out that you can't really compare crying on social media to what muslims are causing in europe right now... i agree with you on the insulting people part though, people really should respect other people's beliefs (as long as they're not forcing someone to believe the same thing). although i'm pretty sure that there is some sort of statistical correlation between being an atheist and being highly educated :>
2019-03-04 22:29
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Okay great that you understand what I meant by insulting. Now, About Muslims? What are they doing in Europe? Trying to work like every other person in Europe (Talking about Muslims, Not Arabs, Arabs are a different category) A lot of Arabs aren't even considered Muslims, They don't even do the 5 pillars of Islam, They watch porn (Which is considered a huge sin in Islam) These things just make according to Islam, Not Muslims, So how can they be Muslims if Islam doesn't even accept them? huh? (Note: Not all Muslims are Arabs and not all Arabs are Muslims.)
2019-03-04 22:39
so what exactly did you mean by "muslims impreaching their religion in europe" in #23 then?
2019-03-04 22:42
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
He's crying and accusing Muslims of doing that in Europe, meanwhile he's in Social Media insulting people with beliefs for no particular reason.
2019-03-04 22:45
What are Muslims doing in Europe? They are bombing us, they are raping us, they are preaching Female Genital Mutilation in our countries, they are slaughtering animals without anaesthetic (Jews do that too, by the way), they make our streets unsafe, etc.
2019-03-05 00:56
#159
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
First parts about Muslims bombing you, raping you, preaching Female Genital Mutilation or whatever, Anyway, In Islam, The people that do Zina (Rape) is not considered Muslims, same with suicide, so nice try my friend. About slaughtering animals without "anaesthetic", That's the right way to slaughter animals to make them feel less pain and to make the meat permissible, so nice try my friend.
2019-03-05 00:59
Which version of Islam are you referring to? It's quite contradictory in many of its texts. As you probably know, differing interpretations on Islam are prevalent and often quite violent. The people carrying out those things call themselves Muslim, so I will call them that too. Who are you to say what they believe? It literally does not make them feel less pain, though. I don't think you know what an anaesthetic does. Have you ever had surgery? That part about making the meat " permissible" is obviously religious doctrine which I do not believe in, so that argument falls flat.
2019-03-05 01:01
#162
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
We're talking about Sunni Islam here, Shia Islam allows a lot of wrong things (like there are a lot of videos on youtube of Shia Muslims literally just beating themselves up for no reasons and making themselves bleed) (WHICH IS FORBIDDEN IN SUNNI ISLAM) Look, You're just like vegans, Just let me cut the meat I'll eat the way I want and you eat your veggies the way you want, Okay? Thanks.
2019-03-05 01:02
Well, I don't know what specific branch of Islam the rapists we get here follow, and quite frankly I am not interested. I know that these people that are coming here as guests are raping people and killing people and I do not like it. Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of Sunni nor Shia Islam. I know enough about Islam to know they do not like unbelievers much, though. Nice strawman, lmao. You can eat meat, and I actually think that the Islamic way of treating animals while they're alive is superior to putting them in tiny pens, but you should really make their death painless. It's common courtesy. Then again, Muslims aren't courteous to people they see as animals, see my first paragraph.
2019-03-05 01:14
#171
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
You're really funny, If you know enough about Islam you'd know that hating an innocent person out of thin air is just bad and like, heavily hated by Islam, I'm telling you this, Islam is perfect, People aren't, Islam wants people to submit to their god, But what does submitting to their god mean? Sitting in the mosque all day and doing nothing? Narrated Abu Umamah Al-Bahili: "Two men were mentioned before the Messenger of Allah (SAW). One of them a worshiper, and the other a scholar. So the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: 'The superiority of the scholar over the worshiper is like my superiority over the least of you.' Then the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: 'Indeed Allah, His Angels, the inhabitants of the heavens and the earths - even the ant in his hole, even the fish - say Salat upon the one who teaches the people to do good.'" A scholar, is better than a man sitting in a mosque, just praying overnight and not helping humanity, That's just one example, There's a lot more, And by this we know that submitting to god is not just sitting in a mosque or doing what you said "suicide bomb" (WHICH ALREADY MAKES YOU KAFIR (Disbeliever)) Because only Allah has the right to take your soul when he wants. So Islam is not about what you think it is, You don't know enough about Islam at all.
2019-03-05 01:25
Islam isn't perfect, though. I assume you agree with me that in Islam the Qur'an is the most sacred text? Because it contradicts itself pretty often. Not very perfect if you ask me. Also, I disagree with the whole " waging war on unbelievers" thing. Also, you may think that people waging Jihad by the sword makes people kafirs, but they certainly do not. You pretend your interpretation of Islam, where you conveniently distance yourself from anything seemingly immoral, is the only real Islam, but that only shows the greatest weakness of Muslims: Their immovable conviction that they are right and everyone else is wrong, and lesser because of it.
2019-03-05 01:29
#175
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Oh wait, Let me ask you a quick question, Do you know the meaning of Jihad? Please do not google that up, Thanks.
2019-03-05 01:30
I have had this in univercity a few years ago, so forgive me if it is not quite correct. I recall that the word means as much as "to try" and that the specific context it is used in is to try and make everyone the same faith. Most Muslims interpret this as being peaceful (luckily) but it can also be interpreted as being violent. If it is wrong, could you explain it properly for me please?
2019-03-05 01:33
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Okay, Jihad means "To Struggle", But what does to struggle refer to? When you're going to school, You're jihading, You're in full-defence by Allah and if anything happens to you, you're considered shaheed (shaheed is guaranteed paradise) When you're working, You're jihading, Jihad doesn't refer to only when fighting etc, When you're doing something for humanity and life, You get rewarded, That's Jihad, Not what ISIS is doing, ISIS is some bullshit group.
2019-03-05 01:35
Thank you for your explanation. I did think Jihad only referred to trying to convert, not to every challenge in life. Having said that, you cannot deny that "jihad" to convert others, peacefully or not, is also part of Islam, right?
2019-03-05 01:38
#188
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Okay, You can jihad to convert others, But in what kind of way? Violent way? No, That's not jihad, That's some kim jung un tactics. If you're doing it peacefully, like, Maybe ask them once, twice, a third time won't hurt, Try to make them read Quran (not needed to read it in Arabic unless like you're praying, etc) but It's better to read it in Arabic, since it's the original translation that has not been touched since it's release to the world, But yea, Jihad in order to convert people peacefully is part of Islam, Yes.
2019-03-05 01:40
As I said, I had classes on this years ago so I might have forgotten half of it, but don't (some) Muslims call the non-Islamic world the "House of War"? At least I know a thousand years ago they did, so at least back then they specifically interpreted the holy texts to mean war should be waged on unbelievers (that do not want to be Dhimmi).
2019-03-05 12:43
#251
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
I'm not sure about the "non-Islamic world" thingy, But for sure Arabs are the most responsible for this, Arabs, Not Muslims, A Muslim is not a Muslim if he does bad things, So I'd prefer to refer them as "Arabs" since it's the correct way in this situation.
2019-03-05 13:40
Look, you say a Muslim is not a Muslim if he does bad things, but that's just silly. In Christianity, there are hundreds of denominations and they all think the others do stuff wrong, but that doesn't make them non-Christians. In fact, are you claiming to live a life without sin whatsoever? Because if you aren't, according to your own words you're not a Muslim. As I said before, these people call themselves Muslims, pray to Allah, etc. so I will call them Muslims too.
2019-03-05 14:52
#269
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
I do have sins, but what I mean is, In Islam, There are sins that make you instantly a disbeliever, Shirk (believing in more than 1 god, Allah) and suicide (bomb suicide or any kind of suicide) etc, These are the ones I'm talking about. (About praying to Allah part, If they actually were praying to Allah, They wouldn't consider doing these sins (shirk, zina (rape) or suicide) at all, so there's that, But well I'm a human, who am I to judge people, Only Allah knows your intentions.
2019-03-05 15:07
I have to sleep now, I will reply tomorrow. Good night!
2019-03-05 01:40
#189
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Good night my friend, We'll continue tomorrow, Great conversation! :D
2019-03-05 01:40
So who is considered to choose if you are a muslim or not? If the person believe in god and follow some of the rules of islam (but not all). Then they cant be considered a muslim because they dont follow the rules to point A?
2019-03-05 01:29
#174
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
There are five Pillars of Islam, And there are disallowed things (haram) things to do in Islam, And there are the big sins (Zina (translates to rape/adultery without marriage) and shirk (Believing there's more than 1 God (Allah)) etc etc, You have to follow the five pillars to be a Muslim, and You have to avoid the haram things to be able to stay a Muslim, But what makes haram things like, do-able in some situations? Let's talk about China, They're feeding Muslims pork in purpose to make them like "sin" because Pig meat is haram in Islam, Oh well, Since you're being like forced to do that, It's not your fault, but if you're consenting to the haram thing, Then you're getting sinned for it (and the one giving you the pork also gets sins) and etc etc, that's it.
2019-03-05 01:29
This is the reason why the faith of islam is dying. It is so strict and not very open to modern Society.
2019-03-05 01:35
#184
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Would you like to experience an average life/good life (without haram) and be rewarded in paradise or experience the best life you can (oh hey, hookers, cocaine, why not beer and get me some of this pork dude!) and be rewarded in hell? I'd choose first one to be honest, an average life with a great reward.
2019-03-05 01:37
Like i said its such a big ego. But well it aint my faith that is dying.
2019-03-05 01:43
#193
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
Oh well like Allah (SWT) says in Quran: Say: "Oh, you who disbelieve! "I do not worship that which you worship, "Nor do you worship That Which I worship. "Nor will I worship that which you have been worshipping, "Neither will you worship That Which I worship. "To you your religion and to me mine."
2019-03-05 01:45
Agian its just amplify the BIG EGO with Islam
2019-03-05 01:52
#221
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United States Neroz44 
don't you put faith in there being no God if you are atheist?
2019-03-05 03:02
#243
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Other jakerr 
Atheism is a faith
2019-03-05 07:42
how is a lack of faith a faith?
2019-03-04 22:11
#67
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Brazil PazFanBoy 
That was an example, Do not take it literally, He says that he doesn't believe in god, Good for him, Now keep that for yourself instead of calling out religion-believers "uneducated" over the media and then cry when somebody proves you wrong.
2019-03-04 22:17
"proves you wrong"? :x fooooooof aight i think i'm done having a discussion with you after reading that
2019-03-04 22:45
#222
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United States Neroz44 
it is faith in there not being a God
2019-03-05 03:03
You just go one step further than an atheist does. Instead of believing in 0 of the thousands of gods in existence, you believe in 1. Wow, what a difference that makes. You're still, even if a god exists, most likely in the wrong faith just by basic chance.
2019-03-06 11:10
God does exist Just not the way you think it is. +1
2019-03-04 21:43
#99
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Brazil VeryMibrGuy 
+1
2019-03-04 23:02
#177
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
*God does exist* *Get educated kids*
2019-03-05 01:30
he's just an observer.
2019-03-05 16:22
Science. That's the evidence I need
2019-03-04 20:45
1 - You did not refute any argument 2 - This other video refutes your argument. Watch from 6:40 min youtube.com/watch?v=yzeHE41Y3y0
2019-03-04 21:01
lol
2019-03-04 23:10
you're right, you cant actually prove yourself wrong. But the burden of proof is on you to prove that your positive claim (god) is correct. If I was to say there is a space-ship out the front of your house and you go outside and see no ship can I just say "well you cant prove there isnt a ship there, maybe you just cant see it, ive seen it". No i can't it wouldnt make sense
2019-03-04 23:13
#101 If I must prove something, Who said I should do the methods you indicated? The video's attempt is to use reason to bring them to God. And do not use the scientific method, because it is an ineffective method to deal with this subject
2019-03-04 23:51
I respect it if you believe in god but if you come here basically saying "god is real prove me wrong" you need to give proof for your statement before you ask someone to prove yourself wrong. This is one of the most idiotic threads I have seen in a while.
2019-03-05 15:18
no... You just overestimate the scientific method and treat it like a God.
2019-03-05 17:09
274 My friend. I affirm that many things are real and I can not prove it to you. You can tell me a true story from your childhood, and can not prove it scientifically. Many stories taught by your school's history teacher can not be scientifically proven I can declare the mathematical axiom of parallel lines, it makes logical sense, however it is not possible to prove them physically. Axioms make logical sense, but this above our mental capacity proves them Why do you think God is possible to be scientifically proven, if logically God is more complex than the universe itself? This seems to be a sense of overestimating the scientific method and not recognizing the limitations of the scientific method itself. . Science can neither prove nor deny God, but it makes logical sense to believe in Him. The existing life itself is a miracle without explanation independent of the theories that you believed
2019-03-05 17:11
The problem is it is infinitely impossible to disprove a positive claim with 100% certainty. We don't see hard scientific evidence for god right? Even though that is the case, it's entirely possible that something is being missed, but how, how in the modern age can you claim that because there is a slight possibility of a god, that he MUST be true and that because you cannot be disproven you are correct. That sir is simply naive and shows a lack of grasp with reality as we observe it.
2019-03-06 11:14
"You can tell me a true story from your childhood, and can not prove it scientifically. " What does it even have to do anything wit this topic? XD Yeah cause if the story is legit then there isn't a problem. What if I told you that before I aged 14 I had magical powers and could read other kids' minds? "Many stories taught by your school's history teacher" Maybe because history is not science? lmao, but there are obviously other ways history is "confirmed", history ain't fairy tales "Why do you think God is possible to be scientifically proven, if logically God is more complex than the universe itself?" Why not? Can you understand exactly how computer works, how many little parts there are, can your brain operate like a computer? No you can't, but is there a problem proving there are computers and understanding them? This is a pretty simple and stupid example, but I could make 57347543 other ones. @299 OVERESTIMATING??????? Bro literally THE ONLY damn reason you could watch those god evidence videos and post this pointless topic here is science. Where did religion take us? Crimes? Diversity? WARS? Of course there are positive effects of religions, not saying there aren't, but that's a different topic. I wrote a comment before but the node got deleted, so my comment as well, dunno if you saw it / replied. TL:DR this video (10-20 min part) is not stupid, those arguments are nice and make you think. HOWEVER, they aren't any evidence of a "religion god" as well. Those arguments simply show that there are many things yet to be discovered and understood, we don't know everything. Also that theory of evolution is not 100% confirmed, that we don't know how life on earth was started, etc. The same 10 super strong arguments the guy said could be pointed towards a different end, like aliens, that our life is a simulation/game/whatever, or that undetectable magic force exists lul. Saying it's god's evidence is just a blind bias, nothing more. God surely exists as a form of whatever created our universe, but no, he is not watching us from the clouds, and not deciding who goes to heaven/hell in the afterlife because of sins. edit: wow that's long, sorry xD
2019-03-06 11:38
name checks out
2019-03-05 15:37
go read a book
2019-03-04 20:46
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United Kingdom KieranFR 
If believing in a man on a cloud makes you happy good for you. No need to push this shit onto other people though.
2019-03-04 21:05
It's okay to push it onto others, at the end of the day, everybody needs a skydaddy whether you think you do or not.
2019-03-04 21:08
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Spain Holiwis 
+1 I respect all people but don't need to impose your beliefs onto others
2019-03-04 21:09
It's okay to impose your beliefs onto others, poeople do that all the time with politics and everything else, just go for it.
2019-03-04 21:09
#16
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Spain Holiwis 
Is it only okay because everybody does that?
2019-03-04 21:15
It's okay because it's okay and i'm sure you do that from time to time too but you just didn't notice it.
2019-03-04 21:16
its okay its okay its okay just study new words...
2019-03-05 10:01
More sleight of hand and jiggery pokery Obviously just because i use "Okay" it does not imply that i don't know any other words doesn't it. Anyways It's okay*
2019-03-05 14:11
seems like you just triggerd a bit.
2019-03-05 14:12
No and no.
2019-03-05 14:13
its okay to be triggerd.
2019-03-05 14:16
Yeah especially when you have no reasonable arguments but you are still triggered by other side and only thing you do is to try trigger them back, that's where you are truly angry and mad at the world lol.
2019-03-05 14:25
creature of god cant be bad,there are no bad creatures,there are only bad people.
2019-03-05 14:26
I'm not impose anything at you my friend, I'm inviting you to a dialogue and opening a way for you to refute the arguments. Do not be crying like a baby just because you can not refute ( Mom, he's imposing his faith on me. )
2019-03-04 21:15
Yes, i don't understand this either. I don't care where people are coming from, ethnicity or their way of life, if this is believing god or animal as a god idc. Just don't try to force it onto others, makes me think it's more of a sect then religion. (And i would think most religion have this guidelines, to treat others good... but maybe am wrong.)
2019-03-04 21:25
read #15
2019-03-04 21:40
then atheistsm is a sect too. as nearly all try to convince religious people to not believe in god
2019-03-04 21:45
If so, then it's the same both ways. I respect people for who they are, people does not need to see the world like i see it, for me to respect them, but many dislike and can't respect others that don't have the same mindset as their own.
2019-03-04 21:52
only thing that matters is morality. which if you go indept is connected with god. because everytime something bad happens and you want to act good ( help) you feel god saying help. but as i dont want to explain it in depth here it doesnt really matter as long as you are good person
2019-03-04 22:03
The way i see the world too, even tho i don't believe. Only thing in this life you can choose, is if you are a good person or a bad person.
2019-03-04 22:13
# 50 Morality makes no sense if God does not exist. We are just a random product, we have no more value than a tree. watch this :> youtube.com/watch?v=OTrp09x2dpM
2019-03-04 23:53
morality can make sense without a god. In evolution it maybe was useful to be kind, honest etc because that would help your tribe/group to survive. In luke 19 27 jesus says to kill everyone who is his enemy, but in luke 6 27 he tells you to love even your enemy. Both of these contradict each other, so you have to make up your morals on which you decide which of these statements appeals to you more. edit: also natural selection ist not random at all
2019-03-05 01:36
#180 without god you are ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BE A Moralist! My point is not with respect to your emotions, but with respect to the rationality behind You may feel optimistic, but there is no reason for it, for your life is worthless and purposeless. You have deceived yourself that you have something of value and purpose, when in reality there is none. You are just a random agglomerated of chemical processes and is not worth more than a gram , your friends are the same, so there's no reason why you should love them and not be selfish
2019-03-05 17:18
In my statement above are reasons on why humans have morals like empathie and socialization. If you need to be in fear of punishment in order to act morally you are not acting moral anyway. Thats also the reason why I am not selfish, rude or whatever towards my friends, as stated below in your post. The purpose of my life is whatever I want the purpose to be. That can be having a family, career, fun or whatever you want. I dont believe in a greater purpose though. There is no purpose in millions dying of hunger in africa or children dying of cancer. The chemical processes are not random. And love is actually a really easy one. Its not more than oxytocin, dopamin and a lack of serotonin.
2019-03-05 20:33
180 luke is a parable concerning divine judgment, this is so clear. Divine judgment is something that belongs only to God and at the time designated by Him. We do not take the position of judge, we must love and help our enemies. Read Romans 13
2019-03-05 17:17
So if god cant get along with his enemies other than killing them, how can we expect us (who are obv inferiour to him according to the bible) be expected to do so. The bible is full of contradictions, you really need to cherry pick hard in order to get morals from it which are not outdated since 500 years. youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk
2019-03-05 20:40
#111
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United States SilveryoHD 
autism
2019-03-04 23:41
6# i dont belevie in goku
2019-03-05 00:41
#338
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Norway PeteZz 
Thank you.
2019-03-06 11:35
So here is a proof of God 1. Jesus is God 2. Jesus is God Conclusion - Jesus is God
2019-03-04 21:05
#247
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Sweden Pepega 
is okay
2019-03-05 11:13
#11
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Canada Bucket0 
Nobody cares?
2019-03-04 21:09
lol i don't think anyone actually watched the video good b8 10/8
2019-03-04 21:10
#14
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Argentina Nawll 
It's,completelly cool believing in God, believeing in religion in the other hand...
2019-03-04 21:13
This.
2019-03-05 13:45
+1
2019-03-05 19:22
#21
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Czech Republic potruss 
This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. If you dont understand something then you call it the work of god? We dont know how the Big bang happend so you say God created it. Same thing thought ancient greeks about lighting. They had no idea why is it happening or what it is so they said some god did it. There is no argument against it but there is also no real proof. What is that guy saying is that whatever we cant describe or explain - work of the god. If you belive his arguments you are not smarter then people that lived 3k years ago...
2019-03-04 21:26
An interesting thing is that no ancient Greek god is a historical figure who died, rose from the dead and his teaching influences almost the entire world. Another interesting thing is that the cross was a symbol of horror, no person of the 1st and 2nd centuries would believe that a crucified Jew was a child of God. but the supernatural evidence is that the Greek gods were all forgotten, yet this message of a crucified one remains to this day
2019-03-04 21:43
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frozen | 
Czech Republic potruss 
Greek gods remained for more then 2k years, and things about jesus and God are here around 2019 years? Not a big difference Talking about history, why is there tons of religions and gods before christianity appeard? No signs of God
2019-03-04 21:51
#49
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Sweden Trumpatino69 
On that last part, the greek gods existed in a very different time period, where most things like religion was more local. Both christianity and islam arose way later, when information was much more accesible and things like trade over large areas of land and sea was starting to happen, and the traders brought their religion along with them which allowed these 2 religions to persistand spread to other nations, while at the time of the ancient greeks this was not really possible. The christians and muslims also aggresively spread their religion by enforcing it upon the ones which they conquered (and colonized in among among others the Americas and north Africa), while the greeks did way less of this than their christian and muslim counterparts, around 2000 years later.
2019-03-04 22:03
" things like trade over large areas of land and sea was starting to happen, and the traders brought their religion along with them which allowed these 2 religions to persistand spread to other nations" This we call divine providence. My friend, if you think rationally, you will understand that the message of a crucified Jew could not have survived the time and persecutions if it were not in fact a divine religion. It would have to be forgotten, for there is no more absurd idea that a crucified Jew is the son of God. The only explanation for really that these things have all occurred and favored the advancement of this message is that it really is heavenly. Two thousand years ago there were people saying that this crazy message with a time would be forgotten, nevertheless it remains until the present day
2019-03-04 22:26
#81
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Sweden Trumpatino69 
The fact that the message of a crucified jew still persisted, I believe, is because of the fact that people spread it, and that they did it because they truly believed in the message, that is undoubtable. However, I believe that they did believe in it so fervently was because it was a monotheistic religion, which allowed everyone to focus on The God, instead of one of the gods as in the polytheistic religions. Same thing with Judaism, perhaps the first monotheistic religion. After all, it is way harder to keep track of all the gods in, for example, greek mythology, than it is to keep track of Jesus, which might also explain the fact that the message of christianity has survived for this long. Also, the Bible, love it or hate it, is a very compelling story, and especially the new testament has a very good message of peace and love, which is something that everyone can support unlike the harsher gods of greek mythology.
2019-03-04 22:38
I am not speaking in my native language, so I am unable to express myself adequately. However, you have to understand that the cross for the Jew was a symbol of cursing, it represented what Moses had written in Deuteronomy 21:23 you must not leave the body hanging on the pole overnight. Be sure to bury it that same day, because anyone who is hung on a pole is under God's curse. You must not desecrate the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.Deuteronomy 21:23 A Jew who heard that his Messiah was hanged on the tree, considered this message a blasphemous aberration, which is why they stoned Christian preachers In the Roman viewpoint crucifixion was the death sentence for the worst criminal, resembling the electric chair; and trying to rationally convince that a crucified was a good person was an impossible task, and try to convince that the crucified was the God who was more impossible yet. If you consider the intellectual impossibility of Christianity, you will have to accept that the only reason for its permanence is a divine explanation
2019-03-04 22:58
#96
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Sweden Trumpatino69 
Well to me, I personally believe that in christianity the crucifiction of christ is seen as a good thing because of the fact that it shows that god cares about us so much that he’d send his own son to die for our sin, really pushing the message of forgiveness, while the jews see the cross negatively because they do not believe that Jesus was gods son, which of course makes them think that it’s blasphemy, which of course is negative for any religion.
2019-03-04 22:59
Just like the jewish and the hindu messages remain to this day and they are both older than christinianity. Dont come up with these idiotic quantitative arguments. If I am not wrong, Islam will in some years be a bigger religion than christianity. That also doesnt make it true. Honestly, you should PERMANENTLY distance yourself from these retarded arguments and stick to stuff like full-time apologists arguments because they actually avoid the shitty arguments in order to not look as retarded.
2019-03-05 00:12
#133 Do not you understand that there is a cross and that makes the message totally unlikely to be believed? Read #92 a
2019-03-05 00:42
I did look this video and i stopped right at the first 'evidence'. "Order and design of the cosmos point to an intelligent mind" > We have yet to figure this out.. I mean we don't fully understand the mechanism of 'the cosmos' yet. As Einstein proved that Newton's analisys on the latter wasn't exact enough, we are now starting to think the same about Relativity ( coming from newest blackhole analisys mainly ). All that to say this 'evidence' is the very same sh*t we've all heard too much : "You see this thing nobody can explain/see/comprehend ? This is God".
2019-03-04 21:32
So watch the 11 arguments, they are all intertwined. One argument strengthens the other.
2019-03-04 21:44
Have you read the rest of my post . This first one is - sorry to say - pure bs. If the rest of them are linked to this, I see no point in watching the rest of them. And the comment below kinda prove me right. You wanted some explanations about how right/false his saying was. That's what i tried to give you.
2019-03-04 21:48
1. intelligent design 2. unactualised actualiser 3. intelligent design again? also weird thing about earth moving too close to the sun (wrong) 4. intelligent design again? 5. intelligent design again 6. moral absolutism??? citation needed for this 7. love? 8. rational from rational? not sure about this one. seems like yet another rewording of intelligent design 9. there is a meaning of life? citation needed here 10. historical evidence of resurrection. citation needed again 11. life for non-life? yet another rewording of intelligent design literally every one of these arguments have been debunked hundreds of times. nothing of note here at all. even though I am definitely atheist, there are much better arguments for a god than this guy gives. this guy is a fool.
2019-03-04 21:42
4 Fine tuning of the universe
2019-03-04 21:45
Pretty much just boils down to intelligent design though. All old arguments which are tiresome. These have been debunked so. many. times. Get some interesting stuff for me to watch.
2019-03-04 21:48
youtube.com/watch?v=hfGUDyLUhlM watch this video on 11:25 min to 14 min
2019-03-04 21:51
As soon as he said "Poker" I instantly knew where he was going. Fine-tuning is flawed for multiple reasons though. I have to get up in like 5 hours though so you can look it up for yourself. One possible objection to fine-tuning is the anthropic principle.
2019-03-05 00:38
wait
2019-03-04 21:50
#124
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Portugal Zedonp 
hey he did his man...
2019-03-05 00:06
#26
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Other xrist 
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
2019-03-04 21:41
What is the evidence that you have that the advice your father gives you is true and that the stories about your father's childhood are true?
2019-03-04 21:46
#42
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Other xrist 
I believe what my father tells me, but that doesn't mean it's true. Also what kind of argument is this?
2019-03-04 21:53
You believe in your father even without any scientific evidence. This contradicts what you said in the #26
2019-03-04 21:57
#45
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Other xrist 
????????? 0/8
2019-03-04 21:58
If science is not able to help you prove that the stories your father tells you are true, how then do you expect science to be able to prove who God is above the universe?
2019-03-04 22:00
#68
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Well, shees, I don't know where to begin.. 1) You are comparing your biological, existing, human being father with a fan fiction written by people with the interest in gaining power by running a feared a regime? "Don't please this guy? YOU GO TO HELL!" 2) While some people do believe a lot of the stories your father tells you, it is not comparable, most of the stories are recent and can most likely be researched if you really wanted to. Example: Father: Back when I was young, I was shot in the jungle by a random person, but luckily my friend was there and we never told anyone, nobody ever noticed, because I was slick at hiding my wound. How can you make sure this is true? well, ask the friend, ask the police, read the newspaper, YOU CAN LITERALLY ASK PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE SCENE! Whilst you want people to believe what a book said, which happened to be re-written times again and again and again, over and over and re-worded and re-phrased.. I bet the first text written, is not even the same as you know of it today. TL:DR: You cannot compare something that exists and tells you recent event stories which can be researched, with something found in a book editted a million times, by a million different people, all whom had different interpretation of the texts, with 2000+ years.
2019-03-04 22:21
The point is that many times you ask people not to prove anything scientifically. You and your friend may have made an agreement to invent the story. ""Don't please this guy? YOU GO TO HELL!"" It even gives me sadness to read Europeans having such a low and ignorant thought about the gospel of grace. Read some 2 or 3 sermons of charles spurgeon, and then discuss about religion my friend
2019-03-04 22:35
So because we don't know if God exists we should all believe ? And there is absolutly no contradiction to his previous post. if he chose to believe what his father tells him its his own choice. That doesn't make it true nor false. I'm starting to think you're baiting now.
2019-03-04 22:01
My point is that the scientific method is limited in several ways, so why can we trust that it is capable of proving or not proving divine existence? There are things that are true and logical, that science can not prove
2019-03-04 22:13
I'll be direct again. Your point is irrelevant to the discussion. " refute all these 11 arguments " was the subject of your topic. It's good to have this kind of talk, but from what I read it feels like you're not ready to accept and debate around answers we give to you. Also it's very frustrating to be misleading everytime we give you an answer, like you just did by changing the subject with a non-related question ( hopefully you'll find out why it's not. ). Therefore i'll leave you with that. Have a good night/day sir. As you enjoy video, try the movie "The Man From Earth". Will not change your life around, but it's a nice movie about God.
2019-03-04 22:31
You did not refute the 11 arguments, so those who really ran away from the issues were you
2019-03-04 22:37
#54 We must believe in God because he is rational, that is my first point. It is not against reason to believe in the deity, in reality it is against reason not to believe in God. Natural reason points to God in several senses and these arguments are to try to get reason to be led to a better understanding of God's existence. The scientific method is utterly incapable of speaking about God and about the purpose of life and morality. These are philosophical and theological questions.
2019-03-05 00:45
lol, i was taking u serious until this lmao wtf is that argument
2019-03-05 00:09
yeah his name its kurt cobain he came with boddah but we didnt want to understand kurt and boddah.... kurt killed himself.
2019-03-04 21:44
#130
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Portugal Zedonp 
kurt and mac miller died for our sins
2019-03-05 00:09
#53
kNgV- | 
Europe dumbkkk 
Basically he used the Intelligent Design in every argument. The Intelligent Design is the way that religious people tried to get creationism into the science mean, but in reality it is simply religion. You can't prove that God exists because the only way to prove something is through science.
2019-03-04 22:06
Science is not capable of proving historical accounts. So can we conclude that most historical reporting is false?
2019-03-04 22:11
#70
kNgV- | 
Europe dumbkkk 
I didn't say that god is false only because it can't be proven. Science is basically knowledge that is constantly growing and evolving, and historical reports are considered true because what we know is only what we've got to see until now. Of course you can go there and try to prove it's false.
2019-03-04 22:22
#106
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Greece hekzy 
How do you think Historians work? Guesswork and fiction?
2019-03-04 23:30
106 They work with historical sources and often there are sources that are contradictory. You can not prove that the historical source is true, you will in a moment have to rely on one due to the evidences There are historical sources that report the resurrection of Christ. People who lived with Christ and recorded their accounts,
2019-03-04 23:59
#131
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Portugal Zedonp 
best written book takes the prize and becomes historicaly accurate 4ever forgot to add 4ever
2019-03-05 00:11
Science is not able to prove axioms, so can we conclude that axioms declared to be true in mathematics are false?
2019-03-04 22:09
Axioms are often proved by the method proof of contradiction ,so please stop spreading bullshit if you don't know what you are talking about
2019-03-05 10:09
246 Axioms are not physically proven. They just make sense logically and philosophically (just like God), but they can not be physically demonstrated. For example, the axiom of parallel lines could only be truly proved if we could have a view of the whole universe, but this is beyond our capacity for verification, yet there remains an obvious and logical truth (as well as God) but it can not be proved (like God)
2019-03-05 17:23
There are many things that are logical and true that science can not prove, because for this it takes a sample and repetitions of processes.
2019-03-04 22:11
#73
kNgV- | 
Europe dumbkkk 
Yes, that's why people can create theories based on what is known, and if no one shows it's wrong, it'll be considered reality, but remember that it evolves and can be refuted or "upgraded". I don't think "prove" is a good word in this context, i've been using it bad, assuming that these facts can "change"
2019-03-04 22:28
if you think about, if you are atheist, just think god is a superior power that can see shit without an ego, so if you want to live "GOD" life, you just forget about ego, money, whores etc, and start helping out people, be friendly, be kind, patient with older/younger people, and stop caring about dumb shit this is the way I see it and the way I used it in my life, things about jesus or whatever religion just comes to that in a way... the problem is humans themselfs, of course humans would get a religio x or y and use it to make money or to bait people into follow their orders =p put if you see as philosophical way of life, specially after looking out for happines in drugs, partying, sports, womans, etc (been there), you start to not care about ego stuff and start live a light life, and boom... happy af so thats the biggest lesson we can learn from the bibles or whatever da fuck religions kids follow these days, what makes religion and god concept look retarded is the religion ""owners"" and shit =p
2019-03-04 22:08
His argument is meaningless, because if God does not exist, there is no human value, watch this video youtube.com/watch?v=OTrp09x2dpM Also, if your life comes down to parties while people starve, it just reveals that you're shallow.
2019-03-04 23:24
#134
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Portugal Zedonp 
People were killing each other before god and they were killing each other after the introduction of religions/god, human value either exist with without religions or it doesn't exist at all and we should keep killing each other
2019-03-05 00:14
Your life means as much as you give meaning to it. If you wanna be religious idiot number 2 billion then your life is indeed meaningless. Religion is the cause of human consciousness which may or not be unique to the human species. Your brain isn't capable of explaining its own existence, therefore its attracted to the most simplest of answers: God. The reason "god" was created a few thousand years ago was because at that time humans became conscious and intelligent enough to question their own existence. I believe that religion occurs in every intelligent species at some point. Its simply the result of every living being thirsting for an answer to that question and essentially anyone could start a world dominating religion that way. There is nothing real about it. God isn't the answer, there is no explaination as to why HE would exist. All you are doing is moving the problem to a second layer, if you argue that there was a god that created god then you are on layer three. The real answer is possibly impossible complex and nobody will ever know it.
2019-03-05 02:24
Simplicity is the enemy of pride. The simpler the less proud explanation you can have. You can never be proud to know God if it's something so simple. If God were accessible only to intelligent people, the unlearned could not praise Him and pay homage to Him, there would be no way to know Him without science, and people would have pride in their intellect. But my friend, science can not say anything about God. Talk to the biologists and they will tell you how amazing the existence of life is. , but they can not tell you whether God exists or does not exist
2019-03-05 02:41
Life isn't special. It's nothing more than the laws of this universe taking effect. You can say about life what you want but its not amazing in my eyes. You eat, you shit, you reproduce. Everything you experience now is the result of millions of years of evolution trying to perfect that cycle. You are nothing more than an efficient way of reproducing so yeah.
2019-03-05 02:47
Watch this video and face the real logical consequences of your thinking start on 0:20 sec youtube.com/watch?v=OTrp09x2dpM
2019-03-05 02:52
Consequences? If you think that you are somehow more important than a tree or a animal then go fuck yourself. You talk about loving others but apparently you only love yourself. You are wasting oxygen, the trees is producing it. If i had the chance i'd rather take the tree over you. Also the tree isn't spreading stupidity, 2-0 for the tree.
2019-03-05 02:57
The point my friend, is that if life there is no objective value there is no why continue living it. Atheism causes despair in people who are experiencing some problem in their lives, there is no hope, there is no tomorrow. My friend, if have no value, there is no reason to worry about good and evil. There is no reason to love anyone
2019-03-05 03:08
Then don't? If you don't want to live, don't. What does your religion teach you, that you are forced to love everything and only do "good" ? There is no equality, some are born with major disabilites, some are born billionaires. There is no good or evil, you can say killing someone is evil but would be killing an evil person, be evil? People being evil is the result of them being born into shitty conditions outside of their control or other problems occuring in their life. Evil is always relative and there is no true evil in this world. A psychopath that kills people is also just a psychopath, broken in his mind. We have jail to keep these people away from others and we have religion to make people scared of even comitting them. There is plenty of reasons to love someone, how about the chemistry of your own brain requiring you too, to be a normal functioning human being? Yes there is no hope. Some people die of cancer, regardless of what they believe in. Hope or not, they will die. Some people may be motivated by their fairytale believes but that has nothing to do with reality. If you have no hope (essentially no motivation) its your fault. If you have no way to motivate yourself then not my problem.
2019-03-05 03:18
My friend, if people are worth no more than the grass of my house, then there is no reason why I should love them more than I love the grass of my house. There is no reason why I should restrain my egoism and do not use them for my purposes, even if they are detrimental to them If there is no absolute morality, then there is no right or wrong. So selfishness is correct. So Muslim is correct in this point of view. Inequality is fair, since we are sinners and we do not deserve the hand of God. And He has the right to do whatever he wants with his creation. If he wants one he will be born poor and the other billionaire, and no one will be able to question him. In fact, knowing that it is God who gives prosperity is what makes us content with what we have and not be envious. In addition, God often gives people wealth to be proud and condemned. Wealth is often a sign of hatred, not of God's love. Wealth has never been a sign of God's blessing, often a sign of his curse.
2019-03-05 04:00
This is by far the dumbest and most "self-owning" arguments you religious nutjobs have. Basically you prove to us that we are all better human beings than you. You literally say that you would have no reason to treat other people nicely or to not be selfish without a god. Then how do you explain all the people who are atheists but still care for other people and are not selfish? Im a very generous person and i want to see other people being happy - not because some fucking god told me to, but because i live in a society and i have learned through empathy and experience how to treat other people. If you need a god or a bible to tell you how to behave and treat other people, then you are TRULY lost and WORTHLESS as a human being. Just put down the beginners tutorial and either start living your life or just end it.
2019-03-05 14:49
262 Yes my friend. I am saying that if my neighbor's value is the same as my grass, there is no logical reason why I should treat him better than I treat my grass or my dog. This is consistent logic, but no atheist practices the reality of atheism. The reality is that atheism wants to have morality and value, but without God, things incompatible, incoherent. If you do not have God, then there is no value and purpose for existence, nothing has value, everything is the result of random processes, there is no reason why I should treat my neighbor better. Perhaps you can invent in your mind some illusory thought that your neighbor has more value than your grass, but in reality it is only an illusion that you invented, not reality. If an atheist accepts naked and cold atheism, there is really no reason to do good or bad, and worse, since we are selfish beings, there will be many reasons to fuel our selfishness. I'm talking about being rational my friend and intellectually consistent
2019-03-05 17:30
Are you still going? Dude ive ignored the last 5+ comments with 10 IQ bible quotes, wiki and youtube and what ever ur building ur fairy tales existence on. Cba to read incoherent ramblings of a brainwashed, delusional god worshipper. Move on to someone else who might bother reading your bullshit
2019-03-05 17:31
The atheist can love people, yet he is acting on an illusory, false principle, for love has no legitimate value whatsoever in atheism
2019-03-05 17:34
That is false, my friend. I can mention the name of many rich people who have been arrested for committing crimes and many poor people in the favela who are just and decent people
2019-03-05 04:01
Your point? Did i say that billionaires don't commit crimes? No i said that life isn't equal and therefore you can't expect the same behaviour from everyone. Why should i respect other people who have a great life without effort when i suffer on a daily basis because of bad RNG at my creation. Its survival of the strongest in this world. There have been countless wars through human history. Its literally the same as what animals do just in a much larger, technology advanced kind of way. For your first text you're just talking out of your ass again. Yes you can think of a human being as grass outside your house if you want. You do the same for animals. You are biologically wired to think of other people the way you do. You can do whatever the fuck you want but if you inflinct harm to others then you can expect nothing less than to get it returned. If you treat people like grass, you will be treated like grass, its that simple. There is morality but only inside this world and not outside of it. If you steal from someone you will face the consequences. If you don't, you got lucky. As for me i love FEMALES because im biologically wired too and i love/like other man because of friendships. If you can't find a reason to like other people then you are extremly antisocial. You can treat them like you want. But expect nothing less from them then.
2019-03-05 05:05
Equality is utopia. There is nothing that hurts God's rights to give more wealth to some than to others. The world is His, and there is no justice that says thatThat God owes us something and should give the same things to everyone. The world is unequal in many senses, intellectual capacity, strength, height, immune system, moralistic and immoral parents, accidents, diseases.
2019-03-05 17:44
239 If I were an atheist, I could talk like you, I would say that an atheist has no reason to respect anyone, not even his neighbor, because for the atheist the value of his neighbor is the same as that of his gram, since that there is no objective value and purpose in human life I'm not talking about emotions, but logical consequences. An atheist feels love for his neighbor as much as I do, but he is not able to sustain the reasons why he would have to love his neighbor in atheism. You may even invent some illusion in your mind that your neighbor is more valuable than gram, but that is an illusion you have invented, not a reality. The only reasons you talked about loving the next came from selfishness. You can only find reasons to love those who benefit you, but when someone can harm you or envy the richest, then you do not feel that u should like loving and respecting them The reason why I should respect people is not based on their value, but on the value of God. For example, Jesus was perfect, but he respected his parents who were sinners. Because God is supremely valuable, I must respect and love all people. There are other reasons, but all are based on God, His love for me, and the value that His creation has.
2019-03-05 17:51
shut up kid. Human life isn't special. We aren't different from animals. Grow up. If you are gods creation then he created a dumb piece of shit that thinks he is of soo much value. I would value the rats in my house more than you. If you want respect, earn it. So far you only made your own species dumber.
2019-03-06 14:40
I had sent you the wrong video, the video I want you to see is this : watch on 5:15- to 9:15 youtube.com/watch?v=zJ4b8fWeuzQ
2019-03-05 03:18
the human being wants complicated explanations so that he can boast of his intellect and call others of idiots, but in reality, God has made it so simple that even little children can praise Him, and He abandons the proud man of His presence
2019-03-05 02:43
If God were created he would not be God, but his creator would be God. God by definition is an uncreated, uncaused, eternal being. Everything that has a beginning or origin has a cause, but God has no origin, therefore has no cause. And eternity is necessary for the existence. "For something to exist, something must have always existed." R.c Sproul "
2019-03-05 02:45
You are very ignorant, expected from religious nut. Whatever god would be, he can't be there forever. What do you think he is? What is he doing in his never ending existence? He eventually decided to create life after his existence of eternity has already passed, what has he done all the time before? Even if you would believe that god created us, we are certainly not special to him as he would have done it infinites times before us. If he was really forever then we would most likely just be the cause of his boredom. Also no concept of "always existed" can work. If he has always existed then you can go back in time forever and how would it look like to go down to the past of gods existence? Don't give me shit like "he is outside of time". It is clear that not everything is happening at the same time, even for god. God has a time so thus you can go back in it.
2019-03-05 02:55
read first chapter > chapellibrary.org:8443/pdf/books/aogo.pd.. Chapter 1 The Solitariness of God
2019-03-05 02:58
Stopped reading after seeing the first bible quote. He is trying to INTERPRET what GOD means. HE (some random human) is trying to tell ME what god means. Its his own interpretation and his own interpretation of what his god is. Its nothing more than interpretation, not only do you think that your god is the only real one but you also think that only YOUR interpretation of god is right. Religious stupidity at its finest. Stop sending me this shit. If you don't have an interview from god himself, i don't care.
2019-03-05 03:02
Human reason is limited to understanding God. The Bible is the divine revelation. If you want to delve into things about God you must go to revelation. Reason only points to superficial things about God.
2019-03-05 03:48
You're a delusional retard and everytime someone counters your 5th grade logic you just quote some shit for the bible or divine texts. Thanks for showing us all that there is no reasoning with ignorant religious retards like you and theres no reason to try and save you from living your life in accordance with a fairy tale written by some joker thousands of years ago.
2019-03-05 14:54
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2019-03-04 22:10
#62
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Do you believe you are smarter than Kant? Kant said you can't prove that God exists but you can also not prove that he doesn't exist. there two types of knowledge the one we get by experience and the one who are empirical like math. Whatever our experience will tell us... math is always 2+2=4 no matter what. And God knowledge is between these two parts. If God exists he is already there and a part of empirical and experience knowledge but he isn't there he would still be a part of experience knowledge. So he is a part of our reality, but that doesn't mean he exists for real. This is a conflict our mind can't handle. So noob people say he exists because we believe in him.
2019-03-04 22:11
The fact that anything exists at all is a pretty good fuking reason
2019-03-04 22:17
Explain existence of god then. What is more likely for you? - Some random infinite intelligent, powerful, glorious being popping into existence, with its only purpose to create us apparently and then never talk to us again, with our only purpose to believe in him, while there is no way to know for sure if hes existing, only after we already dead. - Laws of nature, doesn't care what happens to us, occassionally creates living beings by pure chance, ultimately our planet is going to get destroyed no matter what. Does your god also explain why asteroids can hit the earth, why our sun will essentially burn out, why the pure existence of the matter itself is enough to wipe us out (splitting atoms to create unimaginable explosions) ... Nothing here indicates intelligent design. Intelligent design wouldn't hand us out the option to wipe out our planet with something as simple as splitting the atoms that are in 1g of matter.
2019-03-05 03:12
I had a wonderful conversation with God today, it was amazing
2019-03-05 20:46
ok retard
2019-03-06 14:32
#71
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Poland eGirl 
I think everyone needs to find God by himself. I witnessed many miracles that God did in my life, I could write a 20 page essay on all the different occasions. I will just mention 1 miracle that I witnessed in my life which I do believe was Gods work. I grew up in a poor family (my parents were political refugees) in our village there was a collection for an African School, I didn't had any money myself I was like 8 years old but I prayed and promised the Lord that I will donate any money I could find, same day I found a 100 Schilling bill lying on the ground, this could buy you 100 pieces of candy (we never had candy at home) I gave the 100 Schilling Bill to the African School collection. 15 years later I was in a bad situation lost my job, couldn't pay rent, I needed exactly 163 EUR, I prayed to God to help me because I was afraid of getting evicted, same day at night I found exactly the amount I needed to pay rent, I had immediately flashbacks of the moment I found the 100 Schilling when I was a small kid, getting the feeling that God wanted to tell me "I got your back" and a few days later a company I applied for months ago hired me and basically saved my ass (I am still working for that company).
2019-03-04 22:24
#85
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Czech Republic wellbi 
So self absorbed ...
2019-03-04 22:43
yeah man totally!! i was thinking of the number "5" and suddenly a car drow by and it had the number 5 on its license plate!!!!!!! 100% bullet proof, guaranteed, ace evidence of gods existence. GTFO YOU UNEDUCATED LOSER
2019-03-05 14:57
#76
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United Kingdom trtr098 
The fact I shit talk about him every day and still being wealthy and happy is the best proof this shit doesn't exist
2019-03-04 22:33
In the Bible it says that God often bestows wealth and fills people's hearts so they never think about Him and are condemned. Health and prosperity when not received with gratitude, but with pride, becomes the divine judgment
2019-03-04 22:43
Thats what poor, uneducated, nolife people like you with no positive outlook or prosperity in sight tell themselves. You have to tell yourself that your shitty life has meaning and it will all be worth it in the end. WROOOOONG. You are living a sad, empty life just so you can return to the dirt like the rest of us, difference is that we lived our life and you got played by a 2k+ year old story to control stupid masses.
2019-03-05 14:59
Read this, this answers your argument hltv.org/forums/threads/2001599/god-exis..
2019-03-05 15:11
Nope, dont you get it?? I told you this too somewhere else. EVERYTIME someone says something against your bullshit you just link some random youtube video or quote the bible. The fact you use youtube and the bible to do the talking and argumentation for you says EVERYTHING about what a clueless, stupid and brainwashed person you are. Its like saying i have written a book, and everything in this book is true, and the evidence is that it says so in the book. You must believe everything i write because the text is evidence that what im writing is true.............. Fucking 3rd grade logic. I know education and life in generel sux in brazil, but you might as well do drugs to numb the pain if your gonna turn to religion.
2019-03-05 15:16
#79
cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
You're religious? Good for you. Really, it is. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. But stop trying to convert people to you beliefs. An atheist does not care for your shit.
2019-03-04 22:37
+1111111
2019-03-04 23:27
1. The example he gave seems to be a variation of the watchmaker analogy, he's saying that because the mount rushmore is complex and was created by an creator, us humans are complex, therefore we were also crated by a creator. This is flawed, as I could say, by the same logic that, the mount rushmore is complex, and he was created in 1927, us humans are complex, therefore we were created in 1927; 2. Saying that god is an unmoved mover is special pleading; 3.Argument from ignorance; 4. We can explain this through natural selection; 5. We've observed evolution; 6. There is no problem with moral being not absolute; 7. Caring about each other is beneficial to the species; 8. Again, we can explain this through evolution; 9. Meaning is not necessary to the existence of the universe; 10. Some people claim to have seen UFOs, still, we shouldn't use personal experiences as prove of anything; 11.Argument from ignorance;
2019-03-04 22:38
#83
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Czech Republic wellbi 
Theists don’t understand that their metaphysical framework is absolutely different to atheists and people of different faiths. No quotation of any scripture is an evidence. For adherent to that particular gospel it’s the “truth”, but for any other person is just another book.
2019-03-04 22:40
#86
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Norway AleXeiCS 
First of all, You cannot define or imagine a thing into existence. If you allow one thing to exist without a cause (God), you contradict your own premise. And if you do, there is no reason why the universe should not be the one thing that exists or originates without cause. To argue against the "designed part": The principles of self-organization and evolution provide complete explanations for apparent design. To argue against "the Anthropic Cosmological Principle": The odds against all possible universes are equally astronomical, yet one of them must be the actual universe. Moreover, if there are very many universes, then some of these will contain the possibility of life. Even if valid, the anthropic cosmological principle guarantees only that stars and planets and life will emerge - not intelligent life. In its weak form, the anthropic cosmological principle merely states that if we are here to observe the universe, it follows that the universe must have properties that permit intelligent life to emerge. To argue against a very large number of people claim to have "personal religious experiences of God": We cannot assume that everything imagined in mental experiences (which include dreams, hallucinations etc) actually exists. Such experiences cannot be repeated, tested or publicly verified. Mystical and other personal experiences can be explained by other causes. The usefulness of a belief does not prove its truth. In any case, many societies have thrived without these beliefs, while crime has thrived in theistic societies believing in heaven and hell. Philosophers who have provided arguments against the existence of God include Immanuel Kant, David Hume, Friedrich Nietzsche and Bertrand Russell. In modern culture, the question of God's existence has been discussed by scientists such as Stephen Hawking, Francis Collins, Lawrence M. Krauss, Richard Dawkins, Carl Sagan, Neil deGrasse Tyson, John Lennox and Sam Harris, as well as philosophers including Richard Swinburne, Alvin Plantinga, William Lane Craig, Rebecca Goldstein, A. C. Grayling, Daniel Dennett, Edward Feser and David Bentley Hart. Scientists follow the scientific method, within which theories must be verifiable by physical experiment. The majority of prominent conceptions of God explicitly or effectively posit a being which is not testable either by proof or disproof. On these bases, the question regarding the existence of God, one for which evidence cannot be tested, may lie outside the purview of modern science by definition. I say “there is no God” with the same confidence I say “there are no ghosts” or “there is no magic.” The main issue is supernaturalism — I deny that there are beings or phenomena outside the scope of natural law. That’s not to say that I think everything is within the scope of human knowledge. Surely there are things not dreamt of in our philosophy, not to mention in our science – but that fact is not a reason to believe in supernatural beings. I think many arguments for the existence of a God depend on the insufficiencies of human cognition. I readily grant that we have cognitive limitations. But when we bump up against them, when we find we cannot explain something — like why the fundamental physical parameters happen to have the values that they have — the right conclusion to draw is that we just can’t explain the thing. That’s the proper place for agnosticism and humility. But getting back to your question: I’m puzzled why you are puzzled how rational people could disagree about the existence of God. Why not ask about disagreements among theists? Jews and Muslims disagree with Christians about the divinity of Jesus; Protestants disagree with Catholics about the virginity of Mary; Protestants disagree with Protestants about predestination, infant baptism and the inerrancy of the Bible. Hindus think there are many gods while Unitarians think there is at most one. Don’t all these disagreements demand explanation too? Must a Christian Scientist say that Episcopalians are just not thinking clearly? Are you going to ask a Catholic if she thinks there are no good reasons for believing in the angel Moroni? How about you for example explain these SIMPLE things Evil: Because evil exists, God cannot be all-powerful. all-knowing and loving and good at the same time. Pain: Because God allows pain, disease and natural disasters to exist, he cannot be all-powerful and also loving and good in the human sense of these words. Injustice: Destinies are not allocated on the basis of merit or equality. They are allocated either arbitrarily, or on the principle of "to him who has, shall be given, and from him who has not shall be taken even that which he has." It follows that God cannot be all-powerful and all-knowing and also just in the human sense of the word. Multiplicity: Since the Gods of various religions differ widely in their characteristics, only one of these religions, or none, can be right about God. Simplicity: Since God is invisible, and the universe is no different than if he did not exist, it is simpler to assume he does not exist.
2019-03-04 22:44
#94
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Germany cucKing 
+1 “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” ― Epicurus
2019-03-04 22:54
#94 read calvin God in his omnipotence has determined evil, nothing escapes his purpose in his world, his purpose is a good purpose, for evil is serving the goodness of God, so that in the end he will manifest his glory
2019-03-04 23:45
Because calvin says so? Read mantic0re. mantic0re says calvin is made up bullshit.
2019-03-05 15:18
no Because the Bible says. Calvin is just a good interpreter/theologian
2019-03-05 16:23
"Because the Bible says." hhahahaha again, i dont need too read all ur bullshit to see what it is - bullshit. I knew from the beginning that you were a brainwashed ignorant fool, i just wanted to counter a bit of your bullshit, but i cba anymore. Not reading your comments or wiki/youtube "evidence" anyway :D. Hopefully you get some actual value in your life some day so you dont have to believe in old fictional books to feel valuable and meaningful edit: and then you cut out the long paragaph and post it below instead? :D
2019-03-05 16:26
Reason teaches us that there is a God who is infinitely perfect and good and all all-might, so nothing can happen in the world outside his purpose. The Bible goes further and shows us what its good purpose is, which is to manifest His glory in Your creation, and evil is its servant for your purpose. For example, when Christ was crucified, God was using the wickedness of men to manifest His grace to sinners. In this way, evil is a servant to the plans of the Eternal God, and serves as an occasion for Him to manifest His goodness. Jonathan edwards writes about it: “It is a proper and excellent thing for infinite glory to shine forth; and for the same reason, it is proper that the shining forth of God's glory should be complete; that is, that all parts of his glory should shine forth, that every beauty should be proportionably effulgent, that the beholder may have a proper notion of God.” Thus it is necessary, that God's awful majesty, his authority and dreadful greatness, justice, and holiness, should be manifested. But this could not be, unless sin and punishment had been decreed; so that the shining forth of God's glory would be very imperfect, both because these parts of divine glory would not shine forth as the others do, and also the glory of his goodness, love, and holiness would be faint without them; nay, they could scarcely shine forth at all. If it is not certain that God should decree and allow and punish sin, there could be no manifestation of God's holiness by hatred of sin; or by his providence to prefer piety [instead of sin]. There would be no manifestation of God's grace or true goodness, if there was no sin to be forgiven, or misery to be reversed. No matter how much happiness he gave, his goodness would no longer be esteemed or admired. Thus, evil is necessary, to the greater happiness of the creature, and the perfection of the manifestation of God, to which he made the world; because the happiness of the creature consists in the knowledge of God, and in the sense of his love. And if his knowledge is imperfect, the creature's joy must be proportionately imperfect."
2019-03-05 16:23
tl;dr ill just copy paste myself: again, i dont need too read all ur bullshit to see what it is - bullshit. I knew from the beginning that you were a brainwashed ignorant fool, i just wanted to counter a bit of your bullshit, but i cba anymore. Not reading your comments or wiki/youtube "evidence" anyway :D. Hopefully you get some actual value in your life some day so you dont have to believe in old fictional books to feel valuable and meaningful
2019-03-05 16:34
Without God there is no value my friend, you are not worth more than a gram, so there is no reason to move you to treat your fellow men well and not be selfish. You need to be more intellectually honest and accept the logical consequences of atheism
2019-03-05 16:39
The only difference between me and you is that i actually feel very worthful, confident and optimistic. All without a god. If you didnt have your imaginary friend to believe in you would have ended your misserable life by now. Sry4truth l8 bruh
2019-03-05 16:41
"imaginary" lol
2019-03-05 16:50
You may feel optimistic, but, my friend, the point you do not want to see is: you are ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BE AN OPTIMIST! Understood? My point is not with respect to your emotions, but with respect to the rationality behind You may feel optimistic, but there is no reason for it, for your life is worthless and purposeless. You have deceived yourself that you have something of value and purpose, when in reality there is none. You are just a random agglomerated of chemical processes and is not worth more than a gram , your friends are the same, so there's no reason why you should love them and not be selfish You think your life came from irrational chance, but you are an intelligent and organized being capable of communicating with word order
2019-03-05 16:53
Remove all self-delusions from your mind and accept the atheistic logic consequences, the naked reality of an atheist world
2019-03-05 16:56
Epicurus refuted. It's a silly idea close to Christian theology
2019-03-05 16:38
Do you need me to teach you to use the reply button bro? I know logical thinking isnt your strong suit but im sure you can manage to learn this
2019-03-05 16:38
#98
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Ukraine R0m4nus 
+++ Reply needs to have actual content
2019-03-04 23:01
#86 "For something to exist, something must have always existed. R.c Sproul" On the other hand, everything that has a beginning has a cause. I repeat: Everything that has BEGINNING/ ORIGIN has cause. Only something eternal has no cause, but this eternal something is NECESSARY for existence. You did not refute the arguments, you just stated that you have faith in the non-existence of God. What you are doing is a statement of faith, not a scientific proof that God does not exist.  If I played poker with you and had 50 hands of 4 ace you would say that I'm cheating even if I tried to tell you that" we live in an infinitudes of the world and there is a possible world that I could have 50 aces hands" anyway you would say that I am statistically cheating; however you believe when you are told that the often complex human eye was produced by pure chance    Many of these philosophers and atheist scientists you mentioned are only propagandists and refuted by laine craig and others. Tell me what they really contributed to the scientific breakthrough. See the big list of contributions by theist and christians to science > en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christia.. Scientific method is flawed in many ways. He can not prove that stories are true and so little can prove that axioms are true. So why presume that he would be able to prove or not prove divine existence? You can not prove that the stories your father told you, however, there is no reason why you deny them. there are many things that are logical and true, that is not possible to be proved by the scientific method The question of religious contradictions gives no excuse for not believing that there is a God.
2019-03-04 23:42
#164
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United States stephcurry30 
one side has loads of evidence supporting an old earth and the other side has a misinterpretation of a book along w/ many supposed miracles w/ no material evidence for nor have ever happened since
2019-03-05 01:08
164 My friend, the land can be really old. The Bible does not say at any time what the age of the earth is. Or God could have created the land with the appearance of an old , for example, the Bible does not say that God created infantile beings, but adult beings, great marine animals, adam was not created in infantile stage, then He may have created earth with the appearance of old
2019-03-05 01:16
164 And miracles are not illogical. If there is a supernatural God who created the world, it is entirely possible for this God to intervene in natural laws and perform miracles. The problem is that the theory of evolution itself is a miracle, the life coming from a non-life, the unicellular being becoming all living organisms, this is a miracle, but atheists attribute it to chance.
2019-03-05 01:15
#200
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United States stephcurry30 
thats the problem w/ multiple denominations, fundamentalists. u guys cant agree between urselves how to interpret the bible, yet u base your whole lives on wats written in that book, and your god hasnt shown up since the old times and never will now that we have modern technology, knowledge, and understanding to record proof of his existence. also Darwins theory of evolution has been considerably modified by continuing research since 1862. articles come out monthly pointing out modifications - thats the nature of science and how most scientific development proceeds: the first idea opens a new field to exploration and subsequent researchers nail down the details a theory, in science, is pretty thoroughly established as fact. its been through multiple tests and withstood them, making it a summation of what is understood about the subject. the difference between a Theory and a Law is that a Law can be proven deductively, whereas a Theory cant be. evolution is a theory cuz it rests on the Doctrine of Uniformity. a doctrine is an assumption made so observations make sense. the doctrine of uniformity simply says that immense amounts of time have passed in the history of the earth, enough that slow change could produce the myriad of life forms seen on the planet. that one detail keeps Evolution from being a Law. it would help if religious ppl actually learned what evolution says instead of arguing against their own straw men. hopefully u can see why u cant compare w/ a non verifiable biblical miracle which the likes of will never happen again and we cant get any material evidence that they ever happened in the first place
2019-03-05 02:05
No Christian of the 21st century denies natural selection. What we deny is that there is a massive information capable of taking a single cell and making it into all living organisms. Here's what this biologist says about it: youtube.com/watch?v=7mdlWzJeYgE
2019-03-05 02:11
#208
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United States stephcurry30 
do u still not understand wat a theory is? and just because this is a theory doesnt verify the bible unlike wat this biologist is implying. maybe u ppl should agree on the age of the earth first since many still believe in a young earth tho as u said some have adapted like the cahtolic church i believe. evolution has ways to explain y there r no snakes in Ireland, y there r polar bear genes in himalayan brown bears and how deer reached NA. on the contrary fundamentalism requires them to make the trip from Ararat and do it in less than 2800 yrs. creationism has no explanations of y there r trees in EU or how there can exist a 17,000 yr old tree ring chronology in a world that is only 6000 years old, or 250,000 yr old ice cores, this is not a problem for evolution. creationists ask atheists/agnostics to ignore the evidence they see in front of their eyes in favor of an unsupported, untestable speculation. if i recall didnt she insist on such things as "flood geology" in reference to noah's flood? i know some creationists believe that most sedimentary rock structures were laid down by noahs flood, completely forgetting about desiccation minerals like gypsum and limestone that r deposited in dehydrating conditions and dontform in floods
2019-03-05 02:40
My friend. I challenge you to show me the bible stating that the earth is 6,000 years old. This is the interpretation of some theologians, but the Bible never dealt with this theme with respect to the age of the earth. In addition, there is the possibility that God created the earth with the appearance of old, since He created everything in adulthood The point is: There is no such idea of a single cell evolving to the point of becoming all living organisms. This is just a leap of faith in the absurd
2019-03-05 02:49
#223
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United States stephcurry30 
lets say that even if that point is wrong, it doesnt prove the bible is right. and we reached that point by theory mainly altho there is evidence such as fossils to back it up but still nothing is conclusive, hence why its a theory. many things in science seem strange when proposed, some primary particles apparently pop into existence in one instance and out a few instances later - a property of the void. some argue the uncertainty principle allows for photons to appear out of nothing, most of these modern initial observations/theories that seem absurd r still being comprehended and tested, some we know its happening, but we dont know why or how yet but we have evidence, similar w/ evolution, its a learning process. the bible states things like miracles but they r untestable and unconfirmable yet u dont doubt them at all
2019-03-05 03:05
Many things can not be proved. When your father tells you the stories of his childhood, do you use the scientific method to prove them? can all historical knowledge be proven?How can you prove that a line will never cross one another if you do not have the perspective of the size of the universe? But still it makes logical sense to say such a thing. There are things that are logical and true, but can not be proven by the scientific method. Miracle is something that can not be reproduced in a laboratory, but none of this is contrary to logic. If a supernatural God created the universe, then it is logical that when He wills He can alter the laws of nature and perform some miracle, or even He can use the laws of nature without altering them to produce a miracle. which we call Providence) Ex: When someone falls from an extremely high place, but does not die for reasons that can be mathematically proven
2019-03-05 04:13
#241
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United States stephcurry30 
so how come these biblical miracles no longer happen today? why did miracles of that nature and stature only happen back then when we didnt have cameras to record footage of the event? back when there wasnt a good understanding of science and its methodology as we have now?
2019-03-05 05:20
"This is just a leap of faith in the absurd" COMING FROM A BRAINWASHED RELIGIOUS NUTJOB HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-03-05 15:19
#300
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Serbia ravi0ll1 
Sounds like you had a rough life so u abandoned god, like for real why are you so triggered and mad? quora.com/Is-it-true-that-people-with-hi.. Read the second answer by Jay Hauren Anyway, the objective/ correct stance on god is theism or agnosticism, atheism is the most retarded one out there. Religion is a different thing.
2019-03-05 17:07
Not triggered, i was amused by his ignorance. And no, exactly because i had a safe and good childhood, with caring and love, i do not need to resort to fairy tales to feel some value and meaning with my life. It's mostly people who have/have had bad lifes that need this to feel a sense of purpose and being a part of something.
2019-03-05 17:15
The real problem is the atheist agenda behind the theory of evolution, if the teachers sought to teach it without turning their atheist students would have no problem with that
2019-03-05 02:14
if god exists why do niggers live?
2019-03-04 22:44
Lmao Wait for these brazilian fuck to report you he a pussy
2019-03-04 22:48
cya brother :c
2019-03-04 22:58
#97
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Ukraine R0m4nus 
Lmao, it was fun No racism, only humor
2019-03-04 23:00
say no to racism
2019-03-05 02:46
I hope you read my points and can reflect on something. "Life can't come from non-life" -- yes it does. The Miller's experiment confirms it perfectly. He also said the brain for example is so complex it must've been made by an intelligent mind -- well I really don't think that any lifeform could make such a thing as a human (or any mammal for example) body. You can't imagine how complex it is with all the regulation and stuff (for example if you want to lift a bucket of water you need some of your arm muscles, then you also constrict some of your back muscles, but it is still ordinary. Now the amazing thing is that before you actually lift the bucket your brain values the weight of the bucket and constricts the m. gastrocnemius in your leg so you won't fall whatever hapens). It is indeed very clever and well organised so it is hard to naturally cause problems in it. Of course it is hard to believe in evolution but it is more real than the theory of God. If someone asks about how did the evolution happened the short aswere is easy: time, time and time.. and of course mutations. We humans have approximatly 23-25.000 genes while some bugs have over 50.000. This im my eyes shows signs of evolution (if God created everything why didn't he make every life form perfect?). There are also counterarguments like if God created the universe who created God? Or for example the Epicurean paradox and so on. I think it is okay to believe in God, it's your choice if you believe or not. For me it is okay until someone tells me that there IS God and I must believe in him or I am a i don't know what. Religious people should accept that not everyone sees the world in their way. (for some extra: I personally had some thoughts on the argument and the "classic God" picture is absolutely absurd. In this a 3D creature creates a whole universe I guess out of nothing (I haven't read the Bible sry). Now if he is huge, like a galaxy or so he would have a detectable gravity force field which could be detected, and as far as I know people didn't find any of this yet. If God isn't so huge then it is totally absurd to create a whole universe because of the size simply. So in my opinion if God (the creator of our universe) exists it is a 4D or even 5D creature which we can't even imagine how it works. Or if we just look around we can call time God since everything created in time. Or if you want to go deeper we can call mathematics God since it is everywhere and mathematics is everything in our world.) This "God exists argument could go forever and in the end of the day we won't know more and the whole thing is just our belief. Have a nice day Sir.
2019-03-04 23:27
#103 My friend, I am only using natural reason to get people to understand that God exists. "if God created everything why didn't he make every life form perfect?" Your questions can also be deduced by natural reason, but natural reason is far below the scriptures. Where does your sense of perfection come from? Have you established that there is a pattern of what is perfect and what is not perfect? But how, if perfection in an atheist world does not exist? Is it just a product of the imagination, because it lives in a completely random world? If you have inside you that the world is totally destroyed, this is a demonstration inside that you feel that you have been excluded from paradise and that the world does not live according to divine law. Perfection is just a definition for those who believe in God. And if the world is not perfect there are some logical deductions, but for us to think about them you at least have to be willing to accept the existing divinity, if not just unutterable thoughts If you deduce that there is something that should be perfect, but it is not, then we can conclude that there was wrong in the creation that brought a disharmony of it with God, and by the conscience we know that our sinful acts are that cause God also did not create robots, it would not make sense for God to create people and at the same time make them obey him perfectly, so it would not make sense for God to give us commandments, if He would even be making us obey him like a robot " if God created the universe who created God?" If God were created he would not be God, but his creator would be God. God by definition is an uncreated, uncaused, eternal being. Everything that has a beginning or origin has a cause, but God has no origin, therefore has no cause. And eternity is necessary for the existence. "For something to exist, something must have always existed." R.c Sproul " If God exists why do you suppose that He should do things according to the will of His creatures? It makes no sense to think that God would do things according to our own definition of perfection, and that we can somehow judge His wisdom. "Or for example the Epicurean paradox and so on." The paradox of the Epicurean is a silly paradox. In Christian theology everything is according to the divine purpose and even evil is serving the good purpose of God. For example, Christ was crucified, but that wickedness was being used for God to manifest his love and grace by forgiving sinners.
2019-03-05 01:09
You only answered for the easy questions and seemingly ignored my main points. Please answer me for the following: to give you a footint in genetics we call the gene's base order (basically the whole genom with the 23-25.000 genes and so on) genotype and the expressed quality (e.g. eye colour) fenotype. The thing is in various places of the Earth the same fenotype occours but with different genotype (so the base order is different). My question is why would God make this? If everything has a purpose what is the purpose of this -I would call- anomaly. Furthermore if we stay in genetics just look at the universal codon chart. It would be unlogical for any intelligent engineer/creator to make it this way. (or look into transposons) Lastly there is perfection in our universe even our body we have a lot of perfectly developed systems BUT there are lots os imperfections aswell. Which again would be irrational for an intelligent mind to creat something imperfect if he could make it better.
2019-03-05 09:58
#107
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Greece hekzy 
hltv.org/forums/threads/1521642/god-does.. All arguments that could ever be possibly refuted I have refuted in a single thread.
2019-03-04 23:31
What if God is mathematics itself??
2019-03-04 23:44
#107 My friend. I at no time appealed to the scientific method as a judge for this. What I am doing is appealing to reason, because the scientific method is UNABLE to give a verdict on this subject, however, if you consider it to be effective, then you must use the scientific method to prove that God does not. exists, but it is inefficient. I return to the subject of reason, logic and point with the arguments of the video that it is much more rational to believe in the existence of God, than to deny it If I played poker with you and had 50 hands of 4 ace you would say that I'm cheating even if I tried to tell you that" we live in an infinitudes of the world and there is a possible world that I could have 50 aces hands" anyway you would say that I am statistically cheating; however you believe when you are told that the often complex human eye was produced by pure chance
2019-03-05 00:09
Taylor Swift is the One True God
2019-03-04 23:43
#115
allu | 
Brazil ShaDoW_ 
Omegalul -9999999999999999999999999999999
2019-03-04 23:46
#118
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Israel Xpicyy 
2019-03-04 23:54
The most eloquent person to exist so far who absolutely shits all over the notion of there being a god is Christopher Hitchens for my money. Science sits down those points if you care to read Lawrence Krauss - A Universe from Nothing. And if you're feeling especially funky try Max Tegmark - Our Mathematical Universe.
2019-03-04 23:58
can you imagine the world of science and technology without the inventions and creations of these great geniuses here? Take a look at this and thank these Christians and Theists for the science you love so much and NEVER refuted the existence of God > en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christia.. What is the contribution of Tyson, Hitchens or Dawkins (who was already refuted by William Lane Craig and Alister McGrath) near these all here? Most of these atheistic scientists are just propagandists.
2019-03-05 00:04
It's not a good argument. Until the Reformation in 16th Century Europe, you had to subscribe to be a Christian else you were getting your life ended, or at absolute best, put under house arrest till the end of your days. We're just looking back over 500 years of people risking and sacrificing their lives- if Martin Luther didn't kickstart it, Christianity would have continued to be written in a language no one understood except a select few special 'priests' dictating their interpretation to the rest of the world. Controlling source material and distribution is 101 indoctrination. I don't really care for NDT, haven't really paid much attention to his work so couldn't say. Hitchens, although not a Scientist is right up there with the best minds post-1950's imo. If there is one person's train of thought that is able to help you think critically on the issue it's his. Dawkins is a Biology giant, you can use google or check his wiki to see his contributions.
2019-03-05 00:23
139 I do not think that's a good argument. I just wrote this as an answer because I saw you using the fallacy of authority, quoting atheist names as if there were only intelligent atheist people and there was no Christian scientist
2019-03-05 00:31
I didn't quote atheists. I suggested books by Scientists at the top of their fields that address the points raised in the video.
2019-03-05 00:33
I still see more when you exalt the intelligent one ( dawkins) above the others, almost placing as an inerrant God and irrefutable
2019-03-05 00:34
I just gave my opinion on the three people you listed =P
2019-03-05 00:49
LOL Not gonna spend some 10 min of video to watch what ever BS arguments it brings. There is no such thing as a God and the whole intelligent design theory is just silly and has been debunked lots and lots of time.
2019-03-05 00:01
#125
SileNt | 
United States rad1ey 
+1
2019-03-05 00:06
#123
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Norway Aqw0rd 
1. Intelligent design : youtube.com/watch?v=AN74qV7SsjY 2. No one says the universe began at the big bang, we just don't know what was before, because that is unknowable. The big bang is the furthest we can see back. 3. Incredible odds are beaten by an even larger amount of tries. How many solar system exists? Billions. If the odds for you to win the lottery is small, you can beat that odds by buying all the tickets. 4. Intelligent design question again. If there was an intelligent designer, it would be reasonable to assume that all life is design intelligently, which it is not as seen in the video from point one. You cannot cherry pick examples to prove intelligent design, either all of it are design or none. 5. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_comple.. Irreducible complex is an argument that evolution is incomplete, not false. It is not irreducibly complex just because he doesn't understand it or that we haven't all the information on how it works. 6. Circular argument, "there can only be morals if there is a god" argument is a non sequitur. I can as easily say "there can be no morals if there is a god" and the argument halts there. He even refuted is own argument by saying that you can be a moral relativist. The guy who pointed out child rape and trafficking is actually completely right, but the preacher diverted as soon as he heard "church/religion" and dismissed it completely. The reason not to kill/rape children can be explained in an evolutionary sense as well. 7. What? He just says words and explain it with God? 8. Again, we don't have a total understanding of how humans work and he says that is an evidence for God. It is also an evidence for the flying spaghetti monster that meatballs go great with tomato-sauce and pasta. In a lot of sense, children are considered to be irrational, but they grow up to become rational adults (some don't even). That is a form of getting to rationality from irrationality. 9. You can also derive meaning from evolution, e.g carry on your genes etc. Just because you want to find meaning for your life, doesn't mean that your life in the grand scale is meaningful. It is only meaningful to you, for most other it is meaningless. Just because something is meaningless doesn't mean its valueless. 10. This evidence needs evidence itself. It is not evidence but rather a proof, because if what he described actually happened, it would be proof of god. Since the evidence needs evidence itself, it is nonviable and cannot be used itself as evidence alone. 11. Again, we don't know how everything works, then he goes to say it must be god. This is a fallacy, how do you know it is the christian god and not Odin or Vishnu that is the almighty god? Absence of knowledge is not a free pass to claim whatever you want to be true.
2019-03-05 00:05
#127
SileNt | 
United States rad1ey 
I like that you took the time. But you wasted your time. You can't convince people, They will just continue to move the goal post
2019-03-05 00:07
#137
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Portugal Zedonp 
wait 10 min and he will post another video with "proof" of God's existence coming from yet another "woke christian"
2019-03-05 00:20
Thank you Sir for your time invested in destroying OP.
2019-03-05 00:17
1. I will watch it 2. we will assume for the reason that there was something before it was the cause, besides, it must assume for the reason that it is Eternal, because for something to exist it is necessary that something always existed 3.If I win the lottery 10x in a row or if I played poker with you and had 50 hands of 4 ace you would say that I'm cheating even if I tried to tell you that" we live in an infinitudes of the world and there is a possible world that I could have 50 aces hands" anyway you would say that I am statistically cheating; however you believe when you are told that the often complex human eye was produced by pure chance 4- If there is no intelligent design, then why do people go to the doctor when they are sick? Why take the risk of doing an organ transplant? The only reason is that the doctor studied with his intelligence the order and design of the human body. 6. If God does not exist, then we are no more valuable than a tree, so all morals are relative and fruit of our thoughts. watch this video > youtube.com/watch?v=OTrp09x2dpM 8. Your argument does not make sense. 9 - Watch this 3 video> youtube.com/watch?v=aj2iIZS_KKs , youtube.com/watch?v=MddFZoTXaog , youtube.com/watch?v=Bw4TfUkQ-BQ 10. Historical evidence and there is more reason to believe that this account was true than many others, for their writers preferred to die than to deny. Imagine you in a court of law and people prefer to die than deny what they said they saw with their own eyes? 11. Here you must use reason. Are you rejecting God just because you want to or are using your reason? If there is no human experience that points out that life came from a non-life, then why would you believe otherwise? Of what a God who has eternal life who has given us life?
2019-03-05 00:26
#156
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Norway Aqw0rd 
2. We cannot fathom nothingness, we cannot fathom more dimensions other than 3. Is this to say that there is no such thing as nothing and there are no more dimensions other than 3? Human incompetence to understand is not evidence for God. 3. In those examples you have a limited amount of tries, therefore it is statistically unreasonable. If we played poker for 13 billion years, it would be statistically unlikely that you didn't get a full hand of aces. The human eye didn't just come into existence, it had many tries (evolution). The earth is 4.5 billion years old and it is thought that life sprung out 3.5 billion years ago. 4. Design implies that some thought has gone into the anatomy of humans. The doctor has an understanding of the anatomy and how it works, have nothing to do with it being designed. Watch video 1 and the intelligent design aspect is refuted anyway. 5. I guess that is resolved 6. We are valuable to each other. If God exists, why do we murder each other? Rape each other? Torture each other? If morals come from God, then he would want us to have those morals, but people are able to divert from those morals nonetheless. Doesn't sound like an almighty God then? Do animals have morals? If not, why do social animals exist? There are no absolute morals, because then bad stuff wouldn't happen. ( I am not going to watch another 10 min video, argue your side) 7. I guess that is resolved. 8. Nor does the guy you linked. That is my point, it is nonsensical. The point about rationality cannot possibly come from irrationality is demonstrated with children being irrational, but grows up to be rational. That is a concrete example of how rationality can come from irrationality. 9. I am not going to watch almost 1hr of videos for a simple point. If you are not able to argue this yourself or find a video <5min to explain your point, concede this. 10. Then you say this is proof based on nothing. You ascribe this reason to be more reasonable than to not believe it. It is more reasonable to me that people 2000 years ago didn't have the rationality to comprehend what actually happened. 11. There are many reasons to why I personally don't believe in God, most of it comes down to it not being consistent in how it operates, this is not the argument and it is pretty long winded, so for another time. Why do you believe that the Christian God exists and not any of the other?
2019-03-05 00:53
+1
2019-03-05 01:48
#156 'll start off order. 11 - The reason that I believe in the divine existence surpasses logic and my capacity for explanation. I look at the birds,for the flavors of the fruit, at the human intelligence, and all this points to a Creator. Also the law of my conscience, I know that there are certain things that are absolutely bad and that no one has to teach me about them. But none of that is able to tell me who this creator is to perfection. I feel there is a God, but I do not know who he is in the midst of so many religions. And it is when I read the scripture about Christ that i am still more convinced and begin to understand who the creator is, so i can attribute this conviction to the power of the Holy Spirit. When I try to argue to deny the existence of God to my self, I can not find reasons that are consistent, but I feel that what drives me to deny God is the desire to sin, to live free from the authority of divine laws; and not an argument that is really valid consistent with reality. I also see that atheism does not satisfy my basic desires. I have the desire to have sex then there is the woman, I have a desire to feed me then there is the food, but there is in me a desire to have purpose, and if there is not a God then that desire can never be satisfied. I see that belief in God satisfies the intellect and the soul, and I can not say the same as the atheist.  I also see many atheists who only cling to the theory of evolution to justify their atheism, perhaps if invented a theory that made more sense they would embrace, as long as they deny God 2 - I was arguing for the reason. Although you say that you can not understand anything, I affirm that there is way to understand and deduce logically that there was an eternal and intelligent being behind the primary cause of the universe, if not, there is no logical sense of our existence, no there is a "why? for what?" We are thinking beings and have basic desires to satisfy these thoughts, and without God there is nothing that can satisfy this. 3 - The only reason for this would be because two people with intelligence and organization decided to play a limited game like poker, but the scenario of the earth is totally different, you are assuming that without a divine intelligence, things randomly began to enter at some level of organizations infinitely more complicated than a poker game, to the point of being here two intelligent people, arranging words in English to communicate, by pure chance. Without an intelligent being behind it there is no reason to believe these things, in reality, they should sound like the greatest absurdity invented in denying God. Not that the person was actually using logic, but wanting to deny God with all his might, even if he had to throw logic into the garbage Time (billions of years) + chance + infinite random combination without an intelligence = miracle Life is a miracle my friend, the problem is you conclude that a miracle happened by chance, without God 6. Watch the videos. If God does not exist we have no more value than a gram and moral does not exist. Hitler could be right. 8. Its argument is meaningless, since a fetus is not able to walk, yet it already has the genetic dispositions of developing in its body the ability to walk. The same thing for children is naturally willing to develop rationality in their minds. And this is inherited only from rational human beings. The rational never came from the irrational. 10. I repeat. Many people saw and walked with Christ, wrote about their resurrection, and when the Roman soldiers persecuted them they preferred to die than to deny what they wrote. 9- watch the videos
2019-03-05 01:54
#242
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Norway Aqw0rd 
"but there is in me a desire to have purpose, and if there is not a God then that desire can never be satisfied." This explains why you will always believe in God and never change, unless you come to peace with that there is no greater purpose in life other than what you make of it yourself. 2. You are mixing logical purpose. Logic cannot ever determine the purpose of the universe existing, logic is a tool to derive to other conclusion based on your predicates. My point of humans lack of knowledge is to point out that you make a "leap of faith" to assume that just because we don't know the full story, God is the answer. 3. My analogy is to point out that great odds is defeated by a greater amount of tries. If the chance for life is 1 to 1 000 000 000, but you have 1 000 000 000 000 tries, then the chance of it happening is statistically likely. I don't argue it happened randomly, and no one else does, it happens predictably, and a lot of it can we predict or understand today, but not everything is unfolded yet. Life is definitely not a miracle, it is actually so likely we expect there to exist life outside our galaxy. 6. The guy you linked try to give 11 examples for evidence of god, and I disagreed with all of them, or rather rejected them. I will not continue watching him, argue your own position. 10. Many people have seen ghosts, yet I still don't believe in ghosts. Many people believe that they have been kidnapped by aliens, yet I still don't believe that they have. Many people claim that they are psychic, yet none have passed any validation tests. You see where this is going? 9. 6. This basically boils down to you wanting purpose in life and creating it via God. It is called confirmation bias, you are more inclined to start at "God exists" and then try to prove it, rather than start neutral. You can believe whatever you want, but keep it to yourself. Why the need to "prove" it?
2019-03-05 06:51
Thanks for taking the fight man. I gave up a long time ago trying to rationalize with religious people. It is the literal definition of being brainwashed im afraid :(
2019-03-05 01:50
Funny, I have the same thinking about atheists, and I really am sad about it, for the logic of the glory of divine existence is so clear to me that it seems that you have blind eyes and are unable to see the light of the sun. However, I do not think that the problem is in the intellect, but in the bad disposition of the heart
2019-03-05 01:59
So it has nothing to do with intelligence, we all just have a bad disposition of the heart? Rofl. I fcking love my life, i love my family and friends, im well-off, surrounded by decent people and i have every opportunity i want in life. Im blessed and priviledged - but mostly because im not dumb enough to waste my time listening to fairy tales written thousands of years ago. Literally EVERY educated and intelligent person knows that its bullshit and ur wasting ur time - all except for u and ur religious low iq family. Actually, who the fuck are you to tell me that im basically a bad person for not believing in the same shit as you? That is a disgusting, ignorant and horrible behaviour. Fuck you and fuck your non-existing god.
2019-03-05 14:43
#128
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
"isnt it amazing the way that water by accident just carved out those heads on mount rushmore" i honestly thought it was a comedy video after that line
2019-03-05 00:08
#315
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Okay, the chance of a perfect complex world like this to exist out of nothing and pure chance is there. The odds are litreally non existent, but with infinity every odd will be hit. But wait, look, the chance of you being born is 10^ 2,685,000. To compare this ludicrous number to something else, the number of atoms in the universe is 10^80. Not taking into account the chance of anything other than you ancestors meeting the right partner every time and getting the exact sperm cell every time. Compared to the design of existence this odd is quite low and will be hit by chance much earlier right? No, this odd must have been hit first try. Since you are conciousness, and had only 1 chance at conciousness. Now combine that with the odds of intelligent design coming into fruition also with you being concious. Both of them would have to have been hit at the same FIRST TRY. So the odds of chance not doing this ( god being the reason, as there is no other answer ) is 99.9999.% which is literally 100% :D ( This is if concioussness is a one time thing, its more likely that your conciousness can never be recreated, but if it was, hey, then god may not exist, and your existence will repeat on itself forever you hit the odd, you have had this conversation countless times and will have it everytime forever. So when you die the next time youre conciouss you are living your exact life again )
2019-03-05 18:12
#132
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India LodFresa 
God Xizt, here are my 11 arugments 1. 2018-12-15 1st Major PLG Grand Slam 2018 $70,000 2. 2018-05-06 1st Premier Intel Extreme Masters XIII - Sydney $100,000 3. 2017-11-19 1st Premier Intel Extreme Masters XII - Oakland $129,000 4. 2017-07-15 1st Major DreamHack Open Valencia 2017 $50,000 5. 2016-11-20 1st Premier Intel Extreme Masters XI - Oakland $128,000 6. 2016-09-11 1st Premier StarLadder i-League StarSeries Season 2 $130,000 7. 2016-04-17 1st Premier DreamHack Masters Malmö 2016 $100,000 8. 2015-03-15 2nd Premier ESL One: Katowice 2015 $50,000 9. 2014-11-29 2nd Premier DreamHack Winter 2014 $50,000 10. 2014-08-17 1st Premier ESL One: Cologne 2014 $100,000 11. He currently holds the highest number of trophies won at notable events in CS:GO, with 24 trophies.
2019-03-05 00:12
You converted me.
2019-03-05 01:46
#226
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India LodFresa 
xd
2019-03-05 03:10
#136
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Lithuania Sedge 
how can anyone claim to really know what happend thousands of years ago...
2019-03-05 00:20
#138
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Portugal Zedonp 
its written in a book...
2019-03-05 00:21
#141
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Lithuania Sedge 
And you're under the impression that the same book survived thousands of years? without being altered, without being translated or duplicated by several different people?
2019-03-05 00:26
#249
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Portugal Zedonp 
yes, i am clearly not being sarcastic here
2019-03-05 12:54
#279
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Lithuania Sedge 
Ha! funny use of sarcasm, good job man
2019-03-05 15:35
#140
FalleN | 
Brazil Didico 
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2019-03-05 00:24
Monkey Power KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-03-05 01:09
Thing is You CANNOT prove that the God exists and you made up this story so the burden of truth lays upon you my brother, Science can only evaluate reality, people need to realize that anything outside those possibilities are considered speculation (including Religion). At the end of the day Science has nothing to do with this subject and isn't in any direct conflict with Religion (religious people think Science is trying to attack them.... delusional). The Burden of prove lays upon the Religious community, but since Religion is just some made up bullshit from primitive beings with low IQ and shit education they cannot prove it and thus here we are wasting our time discussing pointless topics.
2019-03-05 00:30
#150
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Brazil hugoooo 
"Give Me an Answer - #3316" one year ago. Holy crap... imagine how much this guy have already talked and how good he is nowadays. He probably has more recorded talkings than some people talked in their entire life.
2019-03-05 00:45
if god exists he can suck my dick lol i aint submissing to some dead retard
2019-03-05 00:52
This is not a bait but it's worse than a bait
2019-03-05 00:58
Only argument I need: If god exists, then MIBR wouldn't exist.
2019-03-05 00:59
God according to the bible: Before he created the world and man, he already knew who was going to hell and heaven. I was a staunch Christian myself and served God wuth all of my heart, followed him, worshipped him truly and took His word very seriously... until I came actoss this, now Im agnostic. Frankly, im a man of reason myself and i just cant believe things without logic and reasoning to back it up, the bible is logical yes, its self sustaining and has the arguments to back each other verses up. But i also believed that whatever misunderstanding man encounters when he himself cant find the answer he must surrender to God and have faith. Thing is, after youve read enough bible with right exegesis, you cant avoid coming across this fact. Im a calvinist that agreed with TULIP(yes, the bible is TULIP and if u believe otherwise ure retarded). Basically the bible says that god already knew wtf was hoing to happen from the beginning, and we follow and love our lives all according to Gods beautiful plan, god created hell and choose people togo to hell. Imagine being given life and consciousness involuntarily and know that ure going to hell fortheglory of God. What will this make you?
2019-03-05 01:14
I stopped watching when he said "you don't get order and design by chance". He's palpably another run-of-the-mill apologist who either doesn't know anything about how the process of evolution by natural selection works, or is willing to be dishonest to get his meager, fallacious points across. The process of evolution by natural selection is LITERALLY the opposite of a random process. By the way, OP, the burden of proof is on the person making a positive claim (which in this case is "a god exists"), not on the one who dismisses a claim due to a lack of evidence, so it's really not necessary to "refute" anything in the video. You're also probably conflating the dismissal of a positive claim with the negation of a positive claim. Besides, if this guy weren't full of shit (like the rest of the religious community), he would have collected his Nobel prize and James Randi's $1M paranormal challenge money already for proving what would literally be the most important thing anyone has ever proved.
2019-03-05 01:32
#176
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Seriously Flag checks out
2019-03-05 01:30
#178
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
„What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.“ Christopher Hitchens
2019-03-05 01:33
That's a sharp ass razor you got there
2019-03-05 01:34
#186
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
+1 this one sharp razer is enough to end this useless discussion. You either believe, or you dont. There simply is no final proof (yet)
2019-03-05 01:38
True. That's why the only way to convince people of this utter piffle is either through fear, indoctrination, or a combination of fallacious rhetoric and the listener's lack of intellect or knowledge.
2019-03-05 01:41
Youtube arguments.... and everyone is biting the bait. wp sir
2019-03-05 01:45
#211
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Brazil Corot1nho 
His problem...i still dont like him. lul
2019-03-05 02:46
I enjoyed the video, thanks
2019-03-05 02:58
#224
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Panama Cyain10 
I love watching mythology videos thank you
2019-03-05 03:04
its the other way around you have to prove all 11 arguments
2019-03-05 03:11
#308
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
+1
2019-03-05 17:20
=0
2019-03-05 03:12
#230
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Brazil Smartzilian 
God in 2k19 xD
2019-03-05 03:15
#240
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Brazil siedlarczykK 
"Glory to God, who is able to do far beyond all that we could ask or imagine by his power at work within us" - Ephesians 3:20 God is faithfull. May He blesses you and your family
2019-03-05 05:19
God does exist He plays for NiP, guy with a beard, kinda chubby, sometimes wears a hat
2019-03-05 12:55
why this dude still making this useless topics on game forum?
2019-03-05 13:44
are you high?
2019-03-05 13:47
#264
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Europe god_of_hltv 
There is only ONE real god
2019-03-05 14:53
#268
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Jordan xrealx369 
Believing that something can come from nothing is illogical. Believing that coincidence can make a complex perfect universe is illogical.
2019-03-05 15:00
#271
allu | 
Sweden Dguyg 
Believing that a God could appear from out of nowhere is most certainly not logical
2019-03-05 15:15
#277
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Jordan xrealx369 
God is not a part of our universe, Laws of physics of our universe don't apply to God. When physics of our universe say that nothing can come out of nothing, then there must be a source to the universe. Plus a Creator Can't be created. If a creator was created, then the creator of the creator of the creator was created, and so on, that leads to an illogical infinite loop.
2019-03-05 15:26
#318
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
just shut up with your nonsense
2019-03-05 18:13
if jesus was born from a virgin birth, doesn't that mean he only has an X chromosome, making jesus a female with turner syndrome? hehe
2019-03-05 15:21
#278
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Russia Sur10n 
True and also i should mention 12th argument, his picture: tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/0..
2019-03-05 15:26
+1
2019-03-05 16:24
And then you turn around the holy book and it says made in china on the back, rofl
2019-03-05 16:52
Believing in god in 2019... WOW. It's 2019 and aliens are everywhere but people still believe in god. If god was real there was no suffering like there is everywhere. CLOSED
2019-03-05 17:08
#321
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
low iq spotted " If GoD WaS ReAl ThErE wAs No SufFeRiNg LiKe ThErE iS EvErYwHeRe" quora.com/Is-it-true-that-people-with-hi.. Read the second answer by Jay Hauder. tldr; almost all of the highest iq people ever were theists It is much more likely that there is a god, maybe not the one described by religion, but the odds are heavily stacked in favor of a creator.
2019-03-05 19:00
We all know god from religion so saying maybe not the one described by religion is really stupid. And what has iq to do with anything of this? Also a really lame argument. When I say believing in god in 2019 is wow, I mean believing in god as religion describes it which makes sense or does it not?
2019-03-05 19:23
#329
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
theism is just thinking there is a divine being. Commiting to a religion is a completely different thing and you should be able to realize that. There are different religions while every one of them is a theist. One thinks god is like this said this and that and the other thinks something else. You can also just be a theist without commiting to a religion but most invididuals just commit to a religion that their family and surroundings believe in
2019-03-05 19:28
#306
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
I don't think you can ask us to refute these arguments because they don't cement god's existence. You can't ask us to disprove arguments that don't prove anything. They are reason for why he MIGHT exist.
2019-03-05 17:18
11. Oh my dearest juliano.
2019-03-05 18:14
God does exist, but only in our minds
2019-03-06 11:37
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