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Kio emptying inventory after KQLY ban
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North America northamerican10yrs 
Why does no one care about that we never got an explanation for why kio emptied his inventory right after KQLY's ban came out? Another "coincidence" kio was on the list of supposedly cheating players leaked by smn " pyth olofmeister krimz rallen KQLY Kioshima Apex JW Virtus.pro (dont know exactly which players from VP) Several german players " Kio has NEVER provided an explanation for mysteriously emptying his inventory, and it's extremely unlikely only KQLY was using this hack.
2019-03-05 19:24
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#1
faveN | 
Israel wetz
Cry is free
2019-03-05 19:25
9 replies
Instead of fanboying kio and putting your hands on your ears you should open them to logic and reason.
2019-03-05 19:26
8 replies
#16
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Europe g4nl0cK
It is called timing
2019-03-05 19:57
#102
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Denmark BRCSLUL
nt r/vacsucks user
2019-03-06 23:37
4 replies
+1
2019-03-06 23:57
+1111
2019-03-09 07:43
+1
2019-03-09 10:05
+1
2019-03-09 11:00
i see you spend more time on reddit than thinking
2019-03-07 14:31
and what if kio just emptied his inventory so his account won't also get banned for playing premade games with a vac banned user losing his skins pointlessly? oh wait that makes too much sense))))) olof krimz RALLEN(AHAHHAHA) cheating)))))))) ok men))
2019-03-07 14:50
#2
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Libya Neroz44
Kqly didn’t even cheat on his main account..
2019-03-05 19:26
35 replies
If you think KQLY was just cheating for fun on esea I know a nigerian prince that has an offer for you.
2019-03-05 19:27
33 replies
#7
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Libya Neroz44
He wasn’t hacking in professional games, I don’t think.
2019-03-05 19:28
27 replies
watch the early 2013 french lans he played most blatant a pro has ever gotten
2019-03-05 19:30
26 replies
more than forsaken though?
2019-03-05 19:56
12 replies
yea a whole new level
2019-03-05 20:07
11 replies
not even close don't lie
2019-03-05 20:15
3 replies
you havent watched it if you think he looked legit
2019-03-05 20:25
2 replies
he did look suspicious, but forsaken looked like random mm cheater
2019-03-05 20:30
1 reply
+1
2019-03-07 14:26
clip?
2019-03-05 20:27
How about emilio? Was he more obvious than him?
2019-03-06 23:34
5 replies
i havent seen much from emilio tbh
2019-03-06 23:55
1 reply
Basically wallbanging cobble mid wall from under to A site lul
2019-03-06 23:57
#136
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Sweden Lagge15
Wasn't Emilio and KQLY more or less equally obvious/blatant?
2019-03-07 14:32
2 replies
2019-03-09 07:51
1 reply
Dreamchasers ..more like dream cheaters
2019-03-09 11:27
#17
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Estonia Mrkruvi
More blatant than forsaken?
2019-03-05 19:57
3 replies
yes
2019-03-05 20:07
2 replies
#31
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Estonia Mrkruvi
ok
2019-03-05 20:28
No
2019-03-06 23:31
And he was awful in cs:s , so he cheated in csgo this bitch
2019-03-05 20:50
#88
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United Kingdom StigOHara
Can you show the cheating clips you are refereeing too?
2019-03-06 06:47
7 replies
2019-03-06 12:12
5 replies
This is literally a 16 tick demo how can anyone make any assumption based off this?
2019-03-06 23:37
2 replies
are u joking lmao
2019-03-06 23:54
1 reply
are u stupid lmao
2019-03-07 12:44
#121
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United Kingdom StigOHara
Why does the glock sound like a deagle xD?
2019-03-07 00:18
1 reply
demo bug, all weapons have deagle sound
2019-03-07 00:22
youtube.com/watch?v=TQhyxWWthJ8 watch this from emilion
2019-03-09 07:52
Lmfao
2019-03-06 06:43
#99
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Europe thaifinnen
+1
2019-03-06 23:33
#120
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Denmark idkwhoami
+1
2019-03-07 00:01
ahahaha
2019-03-07 14:29
Two days ago i got that offer ...lul
2019-03-09 11:23
Try to search how his cheats works, that's why you won't never find "suspicious" clips about him, when he was playing with ak47 you can see sometimes he tried to tap, he had more chances to hit headshots with his cheat youtube.com/watch?v=lUDahwiadBg
2019-03-06 00:16
#4
faveN | 
Israel wetz
You think he gives a fuck about 400$.worth of skins ??(if he is really cheating)obviously he is not but believe me, if he will get banned be wont think about the skins
2019-03-05 19:26
5 replies
Players have matchfixed for less buddy. What's your source on $400?
2019-03-05 19:28
2 replies
#9
faveN | 
Israel wetz
There is big difference man, and It wasn't for less, it was for 1/2k +
2019-03-05 19:29
#90
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Lithuania Sedge
listen here buddy
2019-03-06 07:01
newfag 400e back in the day was a deal
2019-03-05 19:56
1 reply
#82
ozzy | 
Japan Fides
It was not even just 400 euro inventory, i think it was worth 1k+ that time
2019-03-06 06:28
People don't care cause there won't be any changes until solid proof.
2019-03-05 19:29
Why did person X empty their bank accounts right after Z happened? Who gives a fuck? That is none of your business, and absolutelly proves nothing.
2019-03-05 19:55
8 replies
#36
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Kazakhstan erictroNic
+1
2019-03-05 20:45
+1
2019-03-05 20:46
Maybe we care about the scene and legitamacy of players, nothing wrong with being concerned. Stop adding toxicity to threads you douche bag.
2019-03-05 20:52
4 replies
It's okay to care, it is another to start conspiracy theories. My point being that line of thought invades someone elses privacy and proves nothing. Hence useless.
2019-03-05 23:46
3 replies
There are plenty of types of evidence we use to investigate things that don't necessarily "prove" anything. If a guy gets caught on murder and the next day his best friend flees the country that doesn't PROVE anything but it makes you wonder and want to investigate more and talk about it. Why can't I talk about something suspicious like this?
2019-03-06 00:03
Dude it isn't that serious, you're the only one saying conspiracy LUL you dumb pleb.
2019-03-06 00:27
rare BR with brain spotted, cheers
2019-03-07 14:47
#44
allu | 
Liechtenstein mary69
+1
2019-03-05 20:52
yes he did and kennyS aswell, tranfered skins to his gf
2019-03-05 19:55
How do you know that he moved his items?
2019-03-05 19:57
cry is free
2019-03-05 20:16
Imagine still thinking that kio was a cheater. lul. You probably post regularly on r/VACsucks EDIT: He did and thats where he got the source of players rofl
2019-03-05 20:26
3 replies
lol I just can't hold my laugh when I think people take this seriously and come up with their conspiracy theories.
2019-03-05 20:36
Nice counter argument.
2019-03-06 00:04
#78
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India Thepotat
Ahahha thinking pros cheat because of one incident
2019-03-06 05:50
Very suspicious indeed, I would say probably he cheated, however innocent until proven guilty I suppose.
2019-03-05 20:21
Although I don't think anyone is cheating in 2019, back then there probably were more cheaters besides KQLY and Sf that were caught and might be playing to this day, kio emptying his entire inventory was sketchy tbh but we'll never know
2019-03-05 20:21
7 replies
#48
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Austria epiXYZ
I also cleaned my entire Inventory, so am i now a blatant cheater?
2019-03-05 20:59
5 replies
So it's not suspicious that during a time when salaries weren't high and people are getting VAC banned, that a person coincidentally empties his inventory as soon as the news broke out, which he can sell later on for a lot of money?
2019-03-05 21:03
4 replies
#52
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Austria epiXYZ
So it's not suspicious that during a time when salaries weren't high and people are getting VAC banned, that I AM coincidentally emptying my inventory as soon as the news broke out, which I can sell later on for a lot of money?
2019-03-05 21:06
2 replies
I'm just saying it's suspicious, no other player did that and you can see the reasoning I'm going by, never said he cheated, just that it is a possibility
2019-03-05 21:10
1 reply
#57
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Austria epiXYZ
lucky timing, scared because KQLY also playd on his PC,.... there could be so many reason's ^^
2019-03-05 21:17
#208
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Denmark Xipingu
So you simply know it couldn’t have been that KQLY had played on his computer, he simply felt like emptying like anyone can do sometimes, or literally any other scenario. K
2019-03-09 11:29
#142 might be one reason
2019-03-07 15:02
#26
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Canada mattyfinch
He never provided a reason because he had no reason to provide one. He doesn't owe you, or any one else an explanation on why he may or may not have moved items in his own inventory around at any point in time, which includes around the same time that KQLY was banned. It is his account(s) and his skins, he has the right to do whatever he wants with them, inside the rules controlling the movements of the items, whenever he chooses to do so. All you've done is taken 2 assumptions ( 1. he was cheating. 2. there is proof of him cheating ) and used them to draw your own hypothesis you feel deserves an explanation lmao. You may or may not need to consider sitting in your running vehicle, inside of a closed garage at some point in the near future... just saying ;)
2019-03-05 20:23
3 replies
#34
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United States MIdreamer
I dont think he cares about logic but I want you to know that I appreciate this post
2019-03-05 20:33
1 reply
#45
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Canada mattyfinch
And I appreciate your appreciation
2019-03-05 20:56
He can do what he wants with his items sure, but then he shouldn't cry if people open such threads and say that he cheated. HLTV shouldn't cry as well and dont delete or close such threads.
2019-03-05 21:18
they played in the same team. might be that they used the same computer. like if my little brother cheated on my pc i would be scared too, because it xould be detected even though you never use it while gaming.
2019-03-05 20:29
completely forgot about that, fishy indeed
2019-03-05 20:46
he gived the skins to me,any problem? 😎😎😎
2019-03-05 20:47
1 reply
not if u send me a knife
2019-03-05 21:26
JW cheated back in the days , i wouldn't be surprised if he cheats , apEX isn't a cheater imo , k1o isn't cheating imo i would be extremely surprised and disappointed if he cheats , olof isn't cheating , krimz like JW i wouldn't be surprised if he cheats
2019-03-05 20:48
17 replies
#41
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African Union csarmani
jw maybe early days i dont think anyone cheats now,im a fnatic fan so maybe im biased but the only player im sure to not cheat is krimz form fnc ofc
2019-03-05 20:50
3 replies
Of course they don't cheat rn at t1 , but if they are vac ban i wouldn't be surprise (but disappointed from pro scene)
2019-03-05 21:24
JW was walling his ass off against a Polish team in 2013. Even pasha callled him out. Kio was probably hacking around 2014 and probably Apex too. T
2019-03-06 06:26
1 reply
2012*
2019-03-09 08:12
olofmeister cheated. Eleague 2018: Did you see the obvious "jump aimlock" on cache ?
2019-03-05 20:59
12 replies
-100 iq spotted
2019-03-07 12:46
#140
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Finland b0biskela
Any aimlocks in tournaments are not proof. Players can't use aimlock on lan, maybe a slight aim assist could be possible but any obvious locks are not hacks even though it can seem like that. If they actually had some obvious locks they would immediately be caught. Also why would olof hack and risk his huge paycheck that way?
2019-03-07 14:41
10 replies
they can use aimlocks on lan, inject the driver of there mouse and go, easy to do
2019-03-09 07:57
1 reply
#210
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Finland b0biskela
You can use aimlock on lan, yes, but you will get caught if it is obvious because your mouse movement does not match with what happens on your screen and you are being monitored.
2019-03-09 12:03
"Any obvious aimlocks are not hacks." Yeah because he should get VAC banned then you can tell so, just like KQLY. Man, I played this game for 11 years, I know how to spot a cheater; doesn’t matter if he is olof or not. The point is a cheat can be injected in many ways even at LANs.
2019-03-09 08:04
7 replies
11 years wasted since you're still a dumb cunt. Most nonsense argument ive read in this thread. "IVE BEEN PLAYING 11 YEARS THEREFOR I KNOW IT ALL" #fanlogic
2019-03-09 08:48
5 replies
the quicker you realise that pros are cheating the quicker you can get over it
2019-03-09 09:06
It is not considered a waste of time if you enjoyed something. Enlighten us with your shiny arguments Mr Spuderweeb.
2019-03-09 09:49
3 replies
What arguments do i need. You give a shitty "Its an aimlock because i say so". The fact that you base your evidence on 1 single moment out of a 7 year career is the dumbest thing. Come up with 50 clips of him aimlocking, then we can talk, i mean the guy has 10000 hours in the game and with your 11 years of experience im convinced you'll find them. If not just fuck off back into the cave you crawled out of and stop being jealous at people who are more skilled in this game then you are. Have a nice day.
2019-03-09 10:15
2 replies
Lol you're mad. There is no healthy conversation here so I will not reply back have a nice day.
2019-03-09 10:25
1 reply
Typical response for someone with no clue what he's talking about. Have a nice day! :-)
2019-03-09 10:47
#212
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Finland b0biskela
I agree it is possible that people hack on lan. But the most obvious looking clips are not that. No one on the highest level of play would risk their income by using some blatant aimlock. They may cheat but their cheats are much more sophisticated than your average aimlock.
2019-03-09 12:05
I remember kennyS doing it too back then.
2019-03-05 20:57
#49
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Austria epiXYZ
Did u ever watch a Single Pro match? They all have a kind of wallhack - they see some orange and blue outlines of every player ingame, imagine if they would suck with that and cant get some kills XDDXDXDXDXX
2019-03-05 21:02
1 reply
+1
2019-03-06 06:38
#51
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Poland SmartyyCS
from VP: byali
2019-03-05 21:04
1 reply
2019-03-07 15:05
Byali has suspicious scenes. Still today. Also, remember last big win by VP was epicenter who have a direct connection to VP. VP won nothing almost a year and became shit but at the tournament of his own clan they won... We have no proof for anything but it seems suspicious.
2019-03-05 21:15
1 reply
Too many coincidences
2019-03-06 06:38
skins = just virtual items. Buy stocks, CD, put in savings which gives more than 2% of interest, very little amount of crypto, etc are more worth it than skins.
2019-03-05 21:21
He was also top 20 player in 2014, but then turned into a perennial role player, wonder why...
2019-03-05 21:23
1 reply
really makes you think
2019-03-06 06:37
#62
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Spain ANUEL_AA
some players were cheating for sure , ioshima was a great player but after kqly ban he got worse so he was using something for sure , byalyw as cheating 100% , from a GOD lvl from a bot level after the kqly ban
2019-03-05 21:24
Kio did 9/11
2019-03-05 21:24
because they all cheated
2019-03-06 00:05
no one ever talks about this, but i remember it like yesterday
2019-03-06 00:08
kio was hacked in twitter and I think in steam too, that's why he empties all his inventory to not lost his skins by the hacker. The biggest doubt is that it was after the vacation drama, probably coincidence or not..
2019-03-06 00:11
i believed smn from the start, those players will always be shitty fucking hackers in my book
2019-03-06 00:32
#75
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Sweden Zolity
did he? lmao thats pretty damn fishy lol
2019-03-06 00:33
what the connection between cheats and inventory -________-
2019-03-06 00:37
1 reply
well when u get vacced you can't trade/sell your skins
2019-03-06 22:37
kio was jerking his gherkin and then nutted so hard that he accidentally traded his skins to someone else for a week
2019-03-06 06:19
Noone probably remember that TaZ was scamming ppl for knives.
2019-03-06 06:41
#89
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Kazakhstan tomik0
by this logic flusha has never bought knifes because of hacks
2019-03-06 06:57
Cry is free
2019-03-06 07:06
he actually said why he did it, lmao also if you're believing in this random list it makes you <10iq
2019-03-06 12:15
20 replies
I don't indiscriminately believe in this list without thinking about it. I consider it to be a piece of evidence just like other pieces of evidence. Discarding this list without thinking about it is the real 0IQ play.
2019-03-06 23:12
19 replies
people like you are the reason why noone treats hltv seriously, literally facepalm..
2019-03-06 23:28
18 replies
Nice counter argument
2019-03-06 23:39
17 replies
what counter argument you retard? you're clueless kid, what else can i say to you, you literally dont know shit if you think that list is even half-legit
2019-03-06 23:41
16 replies
I think it's a potential source of information, something to work off of. You don't need to 100 percent believe something to look into it. >what counter argument Exactly, you made none.
2019-03-06 23:55
15 replies
But what counter argument do you want? everyone who has followed the scene before knows that its a troll, but there come 0iq clueless kids like you and keep spamming about it like thats a serious information..no more comments needed..
2019-03-06 23:58
you also didnt say anything about my argument that kio said why he cleared his inventory and he didnt try to hide it or sth..
2019-03-06 23:59
But you dont even know it because you are CLUELESS
2019-03-06 23:59
12 replies
guy got busted for cheating, got butthurt and decided to snitch on his buddies. what the fuck else do you need to know? you really think he randomly chose a bunch of players to accuse of cheating? are you retarded? last question is rhetorical
2019-03-07 12:47
11 replies
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA especially saying 'someone from virtus.pro' seems like the biggest 0/8 bait but then retards like you come and argue about it hahahahah, i will not even try to change your mind, wont waste my time to discuss with stupid people
2019-03-07 13:54
10 replies
sense - you make none
2019-03-07 13:55
9 replies
imagine if you want to make a bait, you just type some random names and add 'someone from 'x' team' - people with iq less than 50 will take this bait everyday, oh its you hahahaha
2019-03-07 14:11
8 replies
you a special type of clever
2019-03-07 14:30
7 replies
DuDe ItS On tHe InTeRnEt iT hAs To Be lEgIt !!11
2019-03-07 14:52
6 replies
what institution did you escape from?
2019-03-07 15:00
5 replies
Doode random list on baiting forum? 100% true, you dont know shit about scene
2019-03-07 21:01
4 replies
so the looney house, i knew it
2019-03-07 21:02
3 replies
Ha ha these jokes !! are you comedian? veri funi humour
2019-03-07 21:03
2 replies
yes i got another joke, SMN = random clueless baiter, hahah
2019-03-07 21:08
1 reply
cheating kid, nothing else lol
2019-03-07 21:25
Ye he was probably cheating along with a few other pros but eh no one cares anymore
2019-03-06 23:38
#104
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United Kingdom oyyrofl
Men im going to the same gym with kio, you want me to confront him about it next time ill see him?
2019-03-06 23:39
2 replies
yes beat him up and shout HLTV BAIT TOLD ME TO.
2019-03-06 23:55
1 reply
#119
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United Kingdom oyyrofl
lmao thats harsh
2019-03-07 00:00
2019-03-06 23:40
who cares
2019-03-06 23:40
is pasha also cheating cuz he only has 1 dlore and 1 knife and nothing else really?
2019-03-06 23:57
1 reply
he lost all his inventory with vac ban, then ez refund from motar2K
2019-03-07 14:31
He is bad and was trash , 0% he was cheating at any point
2019-03-07 13:52
Maybe true but 1) how did you get the info he emptied his inventory 2) do you remember a time watching him playing without skins? he always had super fancy ones, last dopplers ect
2019-03-07 14:31
2 replies
Everyone who was around that era remembers it. After kqly and sf got vacbanned, everyone refreshed french players profiles.
2019-03-07 14:32
1 reply
i've been watching pro cs for more than 10 years, i know what happened Stating random facts like yours doesn't prove anything btw what does "everyone refresh french player profiles" mean? Forgot my englando to english dictionnary at home
2019-03-07 14:54
from vp TaZ was suspect on cheating
2019-03-07 14:32
#148
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Norway Alexed
who cares
2019-03-07 15:35
#149
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Sweden zae
Smn just a jealous bitch
2019-03-07 15:39
NA stupidity strikes again, redpilled mongoloid
2019-03-07 15:40
1 reply
nice argument
2019-03-07 23:25
Don't worry man... 5-10 years from now, when csgo will be done, some burned out ex-pro player who was involved in the cheating scandal will provide us with the truth
2019-03-07 21:05
1 reply
after they earned millions xD
2019-03-09 09:07
All professional sports are full of drugs and cheating, esports are no exception theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/03/geir-h..
2019-03-07 21:07
1 reply
I dont think people are cheating in stuff like rocket league lol
2019-03-09 07:22
Vrtus.pro was using plow.exe And it looks like ENCE uses it too
2019-03-09 08:08
3 replies
mibr when they lose fn.exe be like: 6-16 to cloud9
2019-03-09 08:11
u mean byali.exe PUBG.exe pretty sure only byali might cheat in VP , rest are nice honest guys.
2019-03-09 10:17
1 reply
Pubg.exe confirmed
2019-03-09 10:52
tl:dr : kio probably cheated and so did others yeah he probably cheated like so many other pros. Pros are just like politicians. Most politics have shady businesses (just look at donald trump's campaign director or whatever) and when people find out about a politician hiding money or frauding then they'll say it's a shame and all but they all know each other and they're all aware that other politicians have shady stuff going on. It's the same with pros imo. There is no reason for having just one pro cheating back in 2014 and nobody ever since ...it's 1 admin for 5 players and sometimes hundreds of thousands at play, it's no surprise some people are willing to have an unfair (or fair in this case) advantage to grab the money.
2019-03-09 09:01
#173
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United Kingdom Quicks
Nt Kqly
2019-03-09 09:53
nice topic
2019-03-09 09:58
VP was probably byali, only cunt there thats an asshole. rest are nice guys.
2019-03-09 10:17
probably all cheating now so it doesn't matter no one has advantage.
2019-03-09 10:18
none of these players are at the top anymore
2019-03-09 10:32
Something is really fishy right here.
2019-03-09 10:55
Yes.
2019-03-09 10:57
byali was in there
2019-03-09 11:24
#207
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Belarus Polotsk
Imagine trusting some vac banned player. Who "leaks" some list.
2019-03-09 11:28
thought he might get banned too so emptied inventory in case youve no proof otherwise so stfu
2019-03-09 12:04
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