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F0rest massively overrated
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Like Thorin said, go look up the LAN stats for f0rest from year by year and compare them to those of GetT_RiGhT. Guess what? Up until 2018, GeT_RiGhT was hardly behind f0rest at all in rating, Yes, that same guy that has been laughed at and spit in the face for being washed up rivaled the player people praise to be the GOAT of CS. I hate to say it, but Thorin's right. NEO GOAT 1.6 shox GOAT CSS s1mple GOAT CSGO
2019-03-11 21:53
#1
NEO | 
Poland VENTZKi 
neo +1
2019-03-11 21:54
This bait made me laugh. NEO goat can be a debate. SHOX CSS GOAT LMAO SURE. S1MPLE CSGO GOAT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-03-16 16:59
#387
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France funKKush182 
+1 Delusion is a disease my friend
2019-03-17 16:06
#2
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
never seen anyone as insecure as s1mple fans everyday threads praising him and bashing other players
2019-03-11 21:55
#9
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
If s1mple fans are insecure, then what are f0rest fans?
2019-03-11 21:59
They are secure fans
2019-03-11 22:05
#286
gabs | 
Faroe Islands DiaRhea 
XD
2019-03-14 09:00
f0rest fans are like f0rest, calm, humble and kind.
2019-03-11 22:30
#73
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Europe Pini_ 
+1
2019-03-11 22:39
+1
2019-03-11 23:26
and have a iq of 0 BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN THE FOREST
2019-03-12 17:50
#141
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North America AlanSmith 
+1
2019-03-12 18:18
#143
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Those are GeT_RiGhT fans. F0rest and his fans are an antithesis to that.
2019-03-12 18:18
the antithesis*
2019-03-12 20:38
#220
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
0/8
2019-03-12 21:47
Your English final only had 8 questions? That's a very unfortunate score, my friend.
2019-03-12 22:01
#223
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
-8/8
2019-03-12 22:02
Tough luck
2019-03-12 22:03
savage
2019-03-13 19:26
Brutal
2019-03-16 17:13
rekt
2019-03-16 20:21
#343
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
rekt
2019-03-16 17:22
#205
f0rest | 
Argentina Nawll 
you can't be a f0rest fan without being a get_right fan bruv at least for me... i love them both
2019-03-12 20:40
nope. I dont really like get right but i like forest. Get right seems like the type of guy that makes everyone depressed and not fun to talk with. Forest seems like that one guy that is always fun to be around and is positive no matter the circumstance
2019-03-13 10:47
GeT_RiGhT's had a lot of awful things happen to him in the last couple of years, its difficult to stay positive when such awful things happen to you. Context is key.
2019-03-17 00:46
Roflcopter
2019-03-17 00:49
#363
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Brazil yalamix 
+1
2019-03-16 19:57
#159
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
+1
2019-03-12 19:13
+1
2019-03-12 19:46
rofl
2019-03-12 19:58
#179
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Lithuania Sealll 
+1
2019-03-12 20:00
#210
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
+1
2019-03-12 20:54
+1 that was fenomenal reply man
2019-03-12 21:44
#219
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
When you get destroyed with facts and logic so you deny it all and cry in the corner ahahaha
2019-03-12 21:46
u seem to be the one in the corner here...
2019-03-13 19:27
#274
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
F0rest fanboys and logic not usually said in the same sentence
2019-03-13 22:17
who said i like forest? if u use your eyes, u can see that there are more "+1's" on #62 than the number of your iq
2019-03-14 14:52
#225
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United States tremm 
+1
2019-03-12 22:04
#236
NiKo | 
India se7eNNN 
+1
2019-03-13 09:37
+1
2019-03-13 14:43
+1
2019-03-13 19:03
isn't really humble to brag ngl
2019-03-13 21:47
#272
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+99999999999999
2019-03-13 22:16
but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a f0rest fan
2019-03-13 22:17
+1
2019-03-13 21:48
#320
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Finland ToxicDUD 
+100
2019-03-16 13:11
Can simple win atleast 1 major before u talk imao, overrated ruski
2019-03-14 21:28
#313
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Well thats not really a fair was to judge it, look at the 2012-2014 NiP team and look at how weak CSGO was in terms of quality for a lot of that, s1mple is also very young and has carried teams that have no business being in contention for majors to major finals, it also just so happens his era coincides with the best CS team ever.
2019-03-16 12:54
Even if Astralis didn’t exit, Navi will get dumped by liquid anyway
2019-03-17 14:46
#386
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
But atleast Liquid are a team that makes mistakes and can be beaten on a regular basis, Astralis and completely different.
2019-03-17 16:03
#347
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
s1mple is f0rest fan to
2019-03-16 17:42
+1. Forest has been a tier1 player for what, 15 years? Check back in 12 years and se how simple is doing.
2019-03-11 22:17
#60
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Did you really just say that f0rest is a t1 player in 2019?
2019-03-11 22:26
He is
2019-03-11 22:27
#66
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
nice one, I laughed
2019-03-11 22:29
He is right tho.
2019-03-11 22:53
#116
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
F0rest 1 major. S1mple 0 Majors.
2019-03-11 23:29
f0rest_4_majors_s1mple_0_major*
2019-03-12 19:44
+1
2019-03-12 20:52
#290
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Morocco dest- 
u didnt even count the cs1.6 majors
2019-03-14 20:53
great argument
2019-03-12 19:51
#170
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Can't fix stupid
2019-03-12 19:52
hence why youre here
2019-03-12 21:37
#216
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
fanboy talking
2019-03-12 21:44
he's not wrong though
2019-03-13 09:06
he is surely not. he is just praised because of the past.
2019-03-12 19:47
#74
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Europe Pini_ 
He is indeed
2019-03-11 22:40
#75
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
#66
2019-03-11 22:40
#106
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
lol when your shit snow country has manage to dig out one good player from the pile of shit that your scene is, and you treat him like he is some fucking god. In reality he will fade into irrelevance within a couple of years.
2019-03-11 23:21
#178
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
[Insert SPUNj copypasta but replace Cloud9 with f0rest] What's actually funny is that he would be right.
2019-03-12 19:59
#108
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Canada NMX_ 
retard ukrainian as per usual
2019-03-11 23:21
#175
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Nice argument
2019-03-12 19:57
#129
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United States Jammin800k 
Hes the best player on a top 8 team so yeah, nt delusion
2019-03-12 17:56
#212
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Sweden Ivorn 
Rez....
2019-03-12 20:57
#227
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United States Jammin800k 
Delusional....
2019-03-12 22:31
#258
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Sweden Ivorn 
Forest is inconsistent as hell.
2019-03-13 15:44
#281
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United States Jammin800k 
Still overall better performances than Rez. Carries more often
2019-03-13 23:42
#284
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Sweden Ivorn 
Do u watch the games?
2019-03-14 07:54
#295
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United States Jammin800k 
Uhm yes rez stepped up in ECS, good job.
2019-03-15 06:44
#307
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Sweden Ivorn 
He always does xD
2019-03-16 12:19
#319
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
So being better than Rez qualifies his as the best ever?????? No you have to have been the best in the world consistently, Mayweather was the best in the world for nearly 2 decades, Ali was the best in one of if not the toughest era ever for over a decade, being the best requires that you were the best in the world at one point, f0rest never was.
2019-03-16 13:10
#321
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United States Jammin800k 
Quote me where I said f0rest was the best ever. Also if you combine 1.6 and csgo theres almost no candidates f0rest pretty much wins by default. Also it's quite debatable as to who the best 1.6 player was. Many say f0rest, many say neo then theres spawn/potti/markeloff By that logic the only possible goats of CSGO are s1mple, cold, olof, and get right. Do you believe one of those players is the GOAT of CS:GO? Because in my opinion device and guardian have very real arguments as does shox.
2019-03-16 13:19
#323
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
No but thats what people keep saying and i think its BS, i dont believe in some combined score between 2 different games that have very little over lap at a top level. S1mple has shown level we have never seen before and hes doing it vs the best in the world, this isnt like GTR in 2012-13 when most teams were really weak hes doing this vs some of the best rosters we have ever seen. I would have given it to Olof until the last few years, his level is too low, i think s1mple has surpassed Cold, hes just unlucky he has to go against Astralis, Guardian i dont has ever been the best in the world and Shox isnt the best and never has been the best either, he was one of but not the undisputed best, if you werent the best even in your era then you cant be the best ever. Device is in a very good position since his in Astralis, basically the best team ever, id like to see how he would do in a less ideal scenario. I personally take number from 2012-13 with a pinch of salt as the scene was a lot weaker there no denying that, its like the women division in UFC, the quality difference between 2012 to now is staggering, and i think its the same with CSGO.
2019-03-16 13:29
#327
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Shox was the best player in the world for about 8 months compilling 2013/14 and 2016, your claim that he was never the best is false
2019-03-16 16:48
#339
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
He was never number one on HLTV he may have has stints of form but his overall level was never the best for the year to be HLTV number one and his average rating wasnt higher.
2019-03-16 17:05
#341
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
He was arugably the best player of 2013. But Gtr and F0rest deserved the top 1 and 2 because they were t1 from the start. Shox didnt have a chance to compete in t1 before Kenny was kicked in VG, and from the point of him joining VG he took over gtr, was the first to start beating nip etc.
2019-03-16 17:09
#326
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
But f0rest was the fucking best at a point in time! 2006 2007 and 2009 he was the best player in the world of the year! He had a lot of time at the very top of the mountain as the best in the world, Thoorin compared him to device while Device was literally never at any point in time considered the best current player in the world, and nowhere near to the amount of time at top1 compared to f0rest.
2019-03-16 16:46
#285
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France Telt 
I consider him as one
2019-03-14 07:58
#71
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Poland wiktorex 
tier 1 ?
2019-03-11 22:37
#110
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Canada NMX_ 
i mean he is tier 1 material just towards the lower end of tier 1
2019-03-11 23:22
#316
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
T1???????? You mean all those years where he only had a 1.09 rating and won nothing and didnt show up in multiple big games????? He was a T1 player for about 3 years and being T1 doesnt make you greatest of all time, you have to have been the best in the world for that and he never has been.
2019-03-16 13:01
#360
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
so for you maradona is not one of the goats cuz he never won a ballondor or maldini ? fuck of dog
2019-03-16 19:32
#364
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Yes, Messi and Ronaldo have won more than him, scored more goals than him aswell all he has over them is a world cup he also played in a very weak league, as for Maldini hes great but not the best ever, not even close, he wasnt even the best player in the 2005 AC milan squad. He is one of the best ever like i said for f0rest, hes a great player just like Maradona, hes a great player but not the best ever, to be the best ever you have to have been the best in your era first, to be great you just have to be very good and be one of the top players of your era. Example, Joe Frazier is a great fighter, hes not in the running for best ever though, Ali is a contender for best ever as he was clearly the top fighter of his era, same with Lennox lewis, Holyfield and Tyson were good but he beat both of them.
2019-03-16 20:09
#370
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
show me a 31yo playr who can play half as f0rest doing right now ?
2019-03-16 21:32
#371
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Yeah and thats amazing, its great to see him play that well and for so long and thats why hes one of the best ever but i dont think hes THE best ever.
2019-03-16 21:33
Won nothing? Are you fucking retarded or what? The only year he wasnt taking trophies was in 2018. Was named the best Swedish player of 2009 by FragBite.[21] Was ranked the 6th best player of 2010 by HLTV.org.[22] Was ranked the 5th best player of 2011 by HLTV.org.[23] Was ranked the 2nd best player of 2013 by HLTV.org.[24] Was ranked the 7th best player of 2014 by HLTV.org.[25] Was ranked the 16th best player of 2015 by HLTV.org.[26] Was ranked the 7th best player of 2016 by HLTV.org.[27] Now go eat shit kid.
2019-03-17 00:10
#374
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Hes won nothing of note since late 2017.
2019-03-17 00:16
You said "years". 1 year without trophies in a 15 years long career, spanning 2 different games. Being put on the top 20 list for 8 years straight (would have been MUCH more if they made those rankings before 2009). 77 tournament wins. Y hes overrated...
2019-03-17 00:36
#377
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Hes overrated by people calling him the best ever. He hasnt won anything in nearly 500 days, being in the top 20 doesnt matter, you need to be number one on a number of occasions not just in the top 20, he wasnt the best in 1.6 and he wasnt the best in GO so no hes not the best ever. To be a contender for best ever you cant just win one thing a year and just be a top 20 in GO and not be the best.
2019-03-17 00:43
Tell it to your imaginary friends, im done talking with you.
2019-03-17 00:42
#379
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
You arent talking, you are spouting complete nonsense, hes not the best ever, hes never been #1 in GO and he wasnt the best in 1.6, he was in a dominant team at the start of CSGO when it was weak, him and his team then fell off and won hardly anything.
2019-03-17 00:44
#168
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Israel ReakZez 
yea simple is not that good he is looking good just cus his team is bad lmao
2019-03-12 19:50
Have to agree,even though this guy is likely s1mplelover's alt since I havent seen him post in a long time and he is talking the exact same way. One of the most annoying people on this site
2019-03-12 19:55
#173
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
I'm not. I actually like olofmeister.
2019-03-12 19:55
#176
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Btw judging from your name, I would imagine that you would have watched Thorin's video regarding f0rest and his false GOAT status, which is pretty much an analyst's equivalent of a diss track. Not a fan of Thorin, but I sure would suggest checking it out.
2019-03-12 19:58
I didnt watch that video lol
2019-03-12 20:27
same with brazilians and mibr) Mibr and simple fans everywhere
2019-03-13 09:20
+1
2019-03-16 21:35
#3
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Sweden Noonex237  
you are so fcking retarded its unbelievable. s1mple isnt even the goat of csgo. he just had one really good year and morons like you start to overhype him. I'm sure 1 year ago you were on the coldzera hypetrain aswell stoopid kiddo lmao
2019-03-11 21:55
coldzera was 2 years in a row the best player tho
2019-03-11 21:58
#8
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl2 
0/8
2019-03-11 21:58
#7
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
^ Facts, logic, statistics - No Feelings, bias - Yes
2019-03-11 21:58
Ben Shapiro ANALLY DEVASTATES helpless s1mple fangays with FACTS, STATISTICS, and REASON
2019-03-11 21:59
Actually laughed thank you
2019-03-11 22:11
#134
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Norway sAvageOG 
Actually laughed thank you
2019-03-12 18:00
wtf is wrong with you are you mad kiddo? go eat some snus and calm down
2019-03-11 22:00
#12
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Why are f0rest fans so defensive? You can't criticize him in any way without getting bashed.
2019-03-11 22:00
#29
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Other Skyw4Ikerr 
LMFAO +1
2019-03-11 22:09
#30
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1ning your alt. wow
2019-03-11 22:09
#46
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Other Skyw4Ikerr 
Yeah my alt,how retarded can you be to think that I would waste my time getting a new alt on this retarded site?
2019-03-11 22:18
#34
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
S1mple was in top 10 when he was still in trash teams, aswell being fresh guy in t1(t2?) scene(s). Thats not 1 good year, but atleast 3 now in a row.
2019-03-11 22:13
yeah? I don't remember simple being in top10 or even top20 in 2013, 14 or 15? weird
2019-03-11 22:18
#49
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
Funny how u intentionally ignored the 2016 and 2017
2019-03-11 22:19
why would I mention 2016 or 2017 if that was the year he started to play in decent teams? You said shit teams, so I brought up these years, ofc only if you consider hr and flipside shit
2019-03-11 22:21
#56
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
Ofc they are shit teams, even liquid when s1mple played on it was kinda shit, who first time in history reached so much for NA team, just because s1mple was carying them.
2019-03-11 22:22
Describe carry then. To me carrying is making like 10 frags more per map than the 2nd guy in your team, also doing it very consistently. What does carrying mean to you? Also, liquid was still a team in the making. They've shown that after some roster moves, they can be even better than the liquid with simple
2019-03-11 22:25
#64
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
And when did they became better without s1mple than with him? Only in 2018, almost two years after s1mple left?
2019-03-11 22:29
Do you think it just happens overnight? How long did it take navi to become top5 with simple? How many roster changes did it take? Let me remind you that simple was joining top2/3 team at that time. Also - hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?match.. That's carrying to you? 2nd player 1.15 rating, 3rd 1.09. There's like 2-4 adr difference between them as well. Also eliige had better entry success with more attempts, so arguably he was more impactful than simple during this tournament I won't even mention time when Liquid played major qualifiers, and simple had no impact whatsoever. Without his team they wouldn't even be on their first major.
2019-03-11 22:34
#133
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United States Jammin800k 
I mean there were like 3 other players in the world that could have done what s1mple did with liquid. They had no business in a major final and he was their best player so yes he definitely carried them higher than they would have gotten to with any NA player.
2019-03-12 17:59
That's not the definition of carrying. Either you carry your team or not, it's not like you carry each other. Plus it's so proposterous to think that ANY player in the world ever is able to carry a team to win. Liquid's results proved that the team actually worked, same as any other team that have won anything way above their expectations. A player never makes such influence unless it's an igl/leader. Good player can make you a little bit better at best. Look at zywoo, he has very good ratings, but does he carry the team way above their expectations? He doesn't. That's not how csgo works
2019-03-14 18:15
#294
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United States Jammin800k 
Wait so you're telling me that if zywoo was say devoduvek that vitality would still be top 10? You're delusional if you think that, zywoo has gotten them through so many maps that 95% of other pros couldnt do. Same with Navi, if you think navi would be top 5 with any other player than s1mple right now, maybe niko but I doubt it, you are quite insane. Skill makes up for lack of teamplay and tactics, it cant fully make up for it, you need some structure and some teamwork but you do not need to be maxed out in every aspect. There are a lot of teams that outskill Astralis that's how faze upset them at IEM Chicago in group bo3s, but most of the time Astralis have the best structure and the best teamplay and certainly enough firepower to win, so they do. What were your expectations for vitality? Because a lot of analysts had trouble putting them through the new challengers stages much less a map away from legends. Zywoo and apex fragging definitely makes them look better than their fundamentals are at times and definitely carried them through matches through individual brilliance, not amazing teamplay or advanced tactics. Of course players can carry teams I dont even know how that's a conversation, you can win clutches, get opening picks, multikills, site holds and physically carry the game by stopping the enemy team, that's not to say that individual play is what you should focus on but players definitely can carry matches and series and sometimes even tourneys, hence MVP awards.
2019-03-15 06:42
The thing is, for you it looks like, for example, you're playing faceit 4x 6level and one level 10 with 3000 elo. You get matched against levels 8-9, the 3000 elo guy gets 40 frags and you win the match. Take away the 3000 elo guy from the equation, replace it with another level 6 and still play against levels 8-9, and you lose the match. That's the logic you go by, but that's not how it works on the pro scene. I never said if you remove zywoo then Vitality would still be top10, because that's very bold claim to make. How a certain roster change will affect the team is always unpredictable, and if you want proof for that, just check roster changes history. A lot of people think that getting rid off players like fifflaren or taco will surely fix the problem, but reality is that pronax was the one who made fnatic win their first major, and who won 3 majors with them. Do you recognize any roster change, in which a team replaced a low-rating player with high-rating one, and that made them jump like 10 places up in the ranking? I can't really think of one.
2019-03-15 15:33
#305
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United States Jammin800k 
What about faze getting niko? Took them from like top 6 to competing for #1 with SK. Theres liquid getting NAF, became their best player and had the best year of all time in NA. Also the top half of your paragraph is just full speculation on my view of the game. Never said players have to carry for teams to win, just that players can carry and cause teams to win which you said was "preposterous" to think. I've given you multiple examples of how singular players take teams above where the other 3 or 4 members would be with the average player from their scene/region so my point is proven, players can carry, just shouldn't be the only thing you focus on as a team.
2019-03-15 22:08
Ok, but I said specifically low-rating player with high-rating one. Low meaning like below 1 or even 0.95. Niko replaced allu, who wasn't by any means low rating player. Probably the closest you can get was NAF replacing jdm, but still jdm was 1+ rating player, they could've just replaced steel. Also Liquid before that change wasn't as good as in 2018 obviously, but still they had some good results even with stanislaw, like semis at ESL Pro 5, or NY/ESG finals. Also, there's no correlation between a player making a team better and carrying, so you haven't proven anything. The only thing you see is that there's a team with certain results and a player who has the best rating. That's not some ultimate proof that the team would have worse or much worse results without this certain player. And the team's performance after such roster change is unpredictable. That's the bigger picture that you and most of the people here don't understand. In structured counter strike if you have 4 players with 1 rating and one with 1.2 rating, and if the 1.2 rating player leaves it's not like those 4 players will still have 1 rating, and that's the common misunderstanding. It works other way around as well, if you have 4 players with 1.1 rating and one with 0.95 rating, there's no way these 4 players will maintain their performance when 0.95 rating player is replaced with 1.2 one. That's how it works on pubs.
2019-03-16 12:41
s1mple didnt carry liquid wtf. he was decent, but not carrying its like device. he is decent but not carrying that often
2019-03-11 22:44
#318
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
They wouldnt have made it to the major final without him, he carried them, those dead weight shitters like ELIGE couldnt handle the fact he called them out for not being good enough when hew was carrying them.
2019-03-16 13:07
+1
2019-03-16 16:50
what is dev1ce then? 5 times top20 3 times top 3..
2019-03-12 19:49
A guy who had more 2 more years competing. Time will tell who will prevail, but goat status is between him, s1mple and coldzera, not forest...
2019-03-12 19:55
#331
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
who the fook mentioned f0rest as a csgo goat are you okay
2019-03-16 16:52
Are you retarded or today is special day?
2019-03-16 18:08
#366
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
No ur a thick cunt bc u though that swedish guy Noonex put f0rest as greater in csgo, when the only thing he did is say that s1mple isnt the greatest in csgo. F0rest is the cs goat and was never put in discussion for csgo goat u thick shit do i need to rephrase it again in one more comment?
2019-03-16 20:17
What you just said doesnt make any sense. Go back to school to learn some proper english
2019-03-16 21:19
haha :)
2019-03-11 22:19
had a godlike 1 year and few good years 2016 2017
2019-03-12 17:58
+1 recency bias strong with the children here. GTR -> KennyS -> olof -> coldzera -> s1mple. It's just his turn, fuq outta here with this GOAT shyt
2019-03-12 19:08
s1mple has been carrying shitty teammates against tier1 opposition since 2014 wtf r u on?
2019-03-15 22:11
#310
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1 s1mple GOAT
2019-03-16 12:48
#317
 | 
United Kingdom sirdetmist 
One year????? Age 17 in 2014 he had a 1.19 rating Age 18 in 2015 he had 1.18 rating Age 19 in 2016 he had a 1.15 rating Age 20 in 2017 he had a 1.26 rating Age 21 in 2018 he had a 1.35 rating Thats 5 years of world class ratings and some of the highest we have ever seen, he ranked higher than f0rest in all of those years. Yeah call that one year.
2019-03-16 13:05
+1
2019-03-16 16:51
#334
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
Taking 2014 and 2015 when he faced tier 3 opposition is retarded. Do you actually think that he produced the same amount of quality in 2014 and 2015 compared to 2017 and 2018. He actually couldnt fucking control himself back in 2014 and 2015 and was a fucking team destroyer, he has been better each year so far in csgo, its just that from 2014 to 2016 the upgrade from tier 3 to tier 1 decreased his performance, and outweighed his improvement ( obvious ) if 2018 s1mple played against the opposition 2014 s1mple did he would literally have over 1.75 rating
2019-03-16 16:57
#337
 | 
United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Well he was very young, but he still put up good numbers and performed very well, he performed amazingly for liquid aswell.
2019-03-16 17:03
xDDDD newfag spotted wtf men😎😎😎😎
2019-03-11 21:57
Signed up 2019-02-06 btw 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-03-11 21:57
Signed up2018-06-06 Autist spotted
2019-03-13 10:45
my god😢😢😢😢😢😢im so broken(((((
2019-03-13 14:27
))))))))))))))) Men
2019-03-13 15:05
#13
f0rest | 
Sweden S3bluen 
Newfag spotted
2019-03-11 22:01
#14
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
^ Facts, logic, statistics - No Feelings, bias - Yes
2019-03-11 22:02
#17
f0rest | 
Sweden S3bluen 
Ask anyone who the greatest cs player of all time is (All CS games in general) and you'll get a very clear answer.
2019-03-11 22:03
#19
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
2019-03-11 22:04
#47
REZ | 
Czech Republic Nikoleo 
thread from 2010 :) and guess who played better after 2010? :)
2019-03-11 22:18
#50
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
markeloff
2019-03-11 22:20
#53
REZ | 
Czech Republic Nikoleo 
0/8
2019-03-11 22:21
#51
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
and GeT_RiGhT
2019-03-11 22:21
lol from reading the comments in that article i remember the good old times when hltv had humble ppl with a good sense of humour and not retarded kids like you
2019-03-12 22:11
wouldnt say forest is goat. he wasnt even the best player at one time, since get-right was better than him most of the time. would say overall 1. get right 2. f0rest 3. neo 4. markeloff? idk
2019-03-11 22:48
#142
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
but f0rest is the only can compete in top level consistenly, now GTR is struggling, NEO and markleoff doesn't even has team.
2019-03-12 18:18
#145
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Umm He can't lmao
2019-03-12 18:19
#152
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
the only reason nip is still relevant is because f0rest and REZ lmao. if f0rest can't keep up with the scene he will be like NEO or even markleoff. s1mple's career is still early, you don't even know if he can still compete at high level in 8-10 years. Markleoff was insane in 1.6, now he doesn't even has a team.
2019-03-12 18:25
forest was not the goat in cs1.6 forest is not even top 20 goat in csgo how does he get goat in cs? 1+1=3? doesnt make any sense dude he is not close to anyone in csgo. he was only relevant in cs1.6 and there neo was better than him. this whole argument doesnt make any sense. even in cs1.6 and early csgo GETRIGHT was better than him
2019-03-12 17:54
#146
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
the argument is f0rest is the only player that is relevant now, neo, GTR and markleoff is struggling to keep up with the scene
2019-03-12 18:19
GREATEST OF ALL TIME for being relevant in csgo wow. i think you all dont know what GREATEST OF ALL TIME means. he was never the best in any version of cs = not goat. you can say that he is the only one to be good for that long but thats not goat.
2019-03-12 18:21
#156
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
so who is the other candidate? s1mple career is too early, shox isn't even posting up big numbers in g2, NEO doesn't even has a team
2019-03-12 18:31
if you look for highest peak markeloff KennyS s1mple one of those is the goat in cs. if you look for peak most skilled player. otherwise its Neo. was the goat in cs1.6. was not to bad in csgo just like forest.. but i dont like that. for me it would be markeloff kennyS or s1mple. goat because they are the best players in their time to touch the game. thats what goat means
2019-03-12 19:16
#161
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
I don't think you can say a goat if he can only good in 1 version of the game. NEO and markeloff can't keep up with the scene where the awp doesn't have a quickscope mechanic or crouch spam. Shox and gtr can't keep up now that spraying is nerfed. When you have f0rest who can adapt and play at top level for all versions of the game. That is how you define a goat.
2019-03-12 19:38
okay what is top lvl? forest wasnt top 20 in last 3 years. 3 YEAR MEDIOCRE MAKE HIM BETTER THAN NEO? nah mate.
2019-03-12 20:22
#202
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
how does neo lasted in top 20?
2019-03-12 20:35
just like forest not good. but as he dominated cs1.6 10+years he is the goat if anyone.
2019-03-12 21:29
#214
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
forest still posting up big numbers in t1 tournament, neo hasn't done anything. how do you compare this wtf.
2019-03-12 21:33
decent number. 1.05 0.96 thats not big numbers
2019-03-12 22:46
#230
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
NEO hasn't even play against top 30 team, again how can compare these numbers. It's like saying semi pro with the same rating is as talented as f0rest
2019-03-13 05:38
neo was in a major final 2017 and before that his team was better than nip. are you disabled?
2019-03-13 14:41
#260
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
How many championship does. Vp win in 2017/2018
2019-03-13 16:23
VP: 1st at DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017 2nd at ELEAGUE Major 2017 - MAJOR 3rd at PGL Major Krakow 2017 - MAJOR 2nd at EPICENTER 2017 2nd at SL i-League Invitational Shanghai 2017 2nd at V4 Future Sports Festival 2nd at CS:GO Asia Championships 2018 3rd at IEM Shanghai 2018 NIP: 3rd at DreamHack Masters Malmö 2017 1st at IEM Oakland 2017 3rd at DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 2nd at BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen 2018 3rd at BLAST Pro Series Istanbul 2018 3rd at ECS Season 6 Finals and now eat shit
2019-03-13 16:30
F0rest is nip's best player neo was vp's worst or 2nd to worst player and now eat shit
2019-03-13 19:31
dude i countered you argument and you ignored it. how retarded can you be
2019-03-13 21:45
that was my first reply how retarded can u be
2019-03-14 03:36
idgaf you are retarded as you dont answer to what i said. your life must be sad
2019-03-14 20:35
ANSWER TO WHAT? U DIDNT SAY ANYTHING TO ME LOOOOOOOOOOL CAN U NOT READ NAMES NAZI?
2019-03-15 13:34
he gives a argument i counter it. you ignore what i just said and speak bullshit. so you are retarded
2019-03-15 14:50
ur arguement was that VP 2016-2017 > nip 2016-2017 that may be true, but during that time f0rest > neo were talking about them right, not their teams
2019-03-15 17:46
i just countered his argument "NEO hasn't even play against top 30 team, again how can compare these numbers. It's like saying semi pro with the same rating is as talented as f0rest"
2019-03-15 17:47
#299
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
REZ >
2019-03-15 14:19
forget his things in cs1.6. would you eeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvverrrrr say he is goat in csgo? no? then he cant be goat in cs. you can discuss if he is goat in cs1.6 (which he isnt)
2019-03-12 18:27
same argument can be applied in reverse. who can you compare to f0rest aside from neo cs 1.6 wise? no one comes to mind? that's what i thought. so if the argument is between neo and f0rest it comes down to neo being better in 1.6 but f0rest wasn't lagging behind too much, whereas in go comparing f0rest to neo is laughable at best. aside from the fact f0rest made it into top20 4 years in a row with neo only once, f0rest remained a consistent top rifler while neo was almost completely insignificant. hell, even now he's like what, top 20ish rating wise and that's with nip being a t2 team after undergoing multiple shuffles.
2019-03-13 09:43
okay. then there is no goat in cs. forest should not be considered goat in cs. if no one else can have it he should get it for free. he was never considered goat in any version. he cant be goat. easy as that.
2019-03-13 14:43
#151
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1 Finally someone with a brain, thank you sir
2019-03-12 18:22
I agree though S1mple has showed far better numbers than any player on CSGO before while never being in the n°1 team
2019-03-11 22:03
What kind of drug did you take? Get_right was among the best players as well as f0rest, perhaps better than f0rest.
2019-03-11 22:03
expected from fan of rating only player lol s1mple has great rating but braindead in terms of team =p f0rest is solid as fuck, of course thorin would look at rating and put him as overated LMAO the guy has INSANE game sense, can always contribuite to the team, specially nip being always up and down, he is always solid on lans etc not goat for me, but excelent player, specially not choking on big finals and shit, thing that s1mple did a lot of times already, specially majors. :>
2019-03-11 22:04
#22
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
I was talking about f0rest and s1mple, not about NEO and choko
2019-03-11 22:05
#357
 | 
United States cookiewolf2 
But he never mentioned Niko, or NEO 0/8 bait
2019-03-16 18:26
false f0rest is a legend and you aren’t nt
2019-03-11 22:04
#24
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Another no argument fan
2019-03-11 22:05
yes, if you wanted an argument, you could’ve just asked. GTR is still good, but he has been lacking for the past year, and he can still be in consideration for GOAT. The reason that people say f0rest is the goat is because he has been on the top of the scene for a long time. In 2007, he was on top, and now, 12 years later, he still is on top, despite being older.
2019-03-11 22:08
#37
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
You lost me at "GTR is still good"
2019-03-11 22:14
expected from braindead s1mple fan
2019-03-11 22:14
#39
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Didn't expect more from someone who thinks that s1mple choked 3 times
2019-03-11 22:15
#42
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
And?
2019-03-11 22:16
read it mr. s1mple is very good 0.81 rating in major finals lmfao hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-v.. 0.63 rating in major finals OMEGALUL hltv.org/matches/2303403/sk-vs-liquid-es.. these are a few of s1mple chokes, would you like more?
2019-03-11 22:17
#57
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
The London major final was him getting countered, why do you think that Niko, NAF and coldzera also play bad against Astralis? How can you be an Astralis fan and not realise this? In Cologne he was a standin, doesn't really count. And now let me bring up all the finals ecovice has choked in: Every single one of them except katowice 2019
2019-03-11 22:23
wow u sound mad device_3_majors_s1mple_0_majors
2019-03-12 17:38
Facts, logic, statistics - No Feelings, bias - Yes
2019-03-13 23:39
does not change the fact that f0rest is the CS GOAT
2019-03-11 22:05
#25
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Please tell me you're just one guy on multiple accounts trolling
2019-03-11 22:06
He was arguably the best player in CS 1.6 (still an open debate) and been an increidbly good player in CSGO (2012-2019). No other player has done that.
2019-03-11 22:11
#36
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
NEO was the best player of 1.6 all day, every day. "and been an increidbly good player in CSGO (2012-2013)" ftfy
2019-03-11 22:13
nah NEO has never been a good player (except for like half a year) in CSGO. But even if what you're saying is correct, neo still has 6 more years of being good, making him the CS GOAT
2019-03-11 22:15
#26
 | 
Liberia gwardiaN 
f0rest_1_major_s1mple_0_major
2019-03-11 22:07
#28
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
friberg_1_major_mvp_f0rest_0 NEO_8_major_f0rest_4_major
2019-03-11 22:09
#119
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
Flusha is GOAT of CS. Flusha 3 majors (1 major mvp), s1mple 0 majors.
2019-03-11 23:33
#33
 | 
Netherlands BigMarvin 
Neo PepeHands
2019-03-11 22:12
#35
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
F
2019-03-11 22:12
You're definitely right about f0rest but to call s1mple the goat of csgo is a little optimistic
2019-03-11 22:21
#55
 | 
Chile hyveur 
why all s1mple fans have mental problems? wtf
2019-03-11 22:21
#58
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
why all f0rest fans can't accept facts and logic? wtf
2019-03-11 22:24
Worst bait I’ve ever seen. f0rest is obviously the GOAT
2019-03-11 22:29
#67
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
clearly f0rest is the GOAT even though he hasn't even been the best player on his team until 2018
2019-03-11 22:30
#65
fnx | 
Brazil TopperMan 
Get_right is better than f0rest in csgo for sure, I don't think anyone questions that. f0rest has been a solid tier 1 player for more than a decade though, and you may consider neo the goat of 1.6, but f0rest is a solid contender too. If you consider the facts that neo was never that good in csgo and that f0rest was already regarded as one of the best players of the game while Shox and s1mple were complete no namers and still is today, it isn't overrating calling him the goat of cs imo.
2019-03-11 22:29
#68
 | 
Sweden fxzo 
s1mple goat of csgo? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
2019-03-11 22:33
#69
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
It's not f0rest, that's for sure
2019-03-11 22:34
#117
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
It's not s1mple that's for sure. 0 Majors! Coldzera is the real goat of CS:GO!
2019-03-11 23:30
#72
United States mah9 
the bait is real
2019-03-11 22:38
#76
 | 
Europe Pini_ 
Even only taking CSGO into account f0rest 1 major s1mple 0 major
2019-03-11 22:42
#77
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
friberg_1_major_mvp_f0rest_0
2019-03-11 22:42
#79
 | 
Europe Pini_ 
Friberg still better than s1mple then
2019-03-11 22:43
#81
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
friberg was top 1 even once?
2019-03-11 22:44
#83
 | 
Europe Pini_ 
Yeah, at ESL One Cologne 2014
2019-03-11 22:45
#87
 | 
Europe Pini_ 
#83
2019-03-11 22:46
#89
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
You rate players over a year
2019-03-11 22:47
#91
 | 
Europe Pini_ 
HLTV does. People can rate them however they want lmao
2019-03-11 22:48
neo>s1mple then
2019-03-11 23:22
#78
 | 
Germany Einfall00 
even s1mple said once that he dont watch pro players straming only few players like f0rest considering him as legend of the game he loves
2019-03-11 22:43
#80
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
If you don't want to listen to me, then listen to Thorin youtube.com/watch?v=FX07F1u6-5w
2019-03-11 22:43
#84
 | 
Sweden aN0x- 
"same guy that has been laughed at and spit in the face for being washed up " Autism is strong in this one hahaha, he only went to complete shit in 2018 and the diffrence in their rating that year in big events is 0.08 thats kinda alot puting that rating to forest would have made him to top 10 list, and other years get right was still good, playing well, still making top 20 list, ofcourse their fucking rating is similar. F0rest is definetly not GOAT of csgo but if you put both games 1.6 and csgo you can say hes goat but that doesnt mean much cause only few 1.6 bests are left
2019-03-11 22:46
#86
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
#80 cry is free
2019-03-11 22:46
#88
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
G2 fan btw yikes
2019-03-11 22:47
#99
 | 
Sweden aN0x- 
So what ? Hahaha should start sucking dick of succesful players like u do right ? plastic ruskies haha .
2019-03-11 22:52
#139
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
I'm not a fan of ecovice, nt. Probably a fan of f0rest because you went on Liquipedia once and saw that he was a good player in 1.6 and though: "If I'm gonna be fan of dis guy, then everyone will respect me cuz he bestest player, amirite?" likemany of the Astralis fans did, thinking that they are """"intellectuals""" ebecause they're fans of the best team in the world and that "only 300 IQ ppl can understand that Astralis plays beautiful CS" or something along those lines. I've been a fan of s1mple since 2015, and not even mainly because he was a successful player (which he wasn't lmao, he was in botsid3 with shara who was using mouseaccel with a $3 mouse), but first of all because of his playstyle and secondly because of his perfectionist attitude, which is also the same reason I like GeT_RiGhT, which sadly has been lacking from s1mple recently (meanwhile f0rest laims in interviews that they're still a good team lmao).
2019-03-12 18:17
#140
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Sorry for the mistakes, I'm tired and I didn't feel like writing in correct English
2019-03-12 18:18
#157
 | 
Sweden aN0x- 
I aint gonna read what a third worlder ruskie thinks haha, made that mistake once
2019-03-12 18:52
#197
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Expected Don't want to use your brain? Don't participate in arguments.
2019-03-12 20:13
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. do it and people will have an argument with you
2019-03-13 10:12
#90
 | 
Sweden yayer 
even ur boi s1mple is sucking f0rest's dick stfu kid.
2019-03-11 22:47
#93
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
triggered fanboys hahaha
2019-03-11 22:48
#94
 | 
Sweden yayer 
name and fan checkout
2019-03-11 22:49
#95
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
flag checks out
2019-03-11 22:49
#102
 | 
Sweden yayer 
lol trying so hard to win the conv
2019-03-11 23:10
s1mple GOAT CSGO not really
2019-03-11 22:50
#97
 | 
Portugal NabasKi 
and you're massively biased
2019-03-11 22:51
#98
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
if I'm biased, then what are f0rest fans?
2019-03-11 22:52
#101
 | 
Portugal NabasKi 
not every fan acts the way you do by the way
2019-03-11 22:55
#103
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
that's true, not everyone uses their brain like me
2019-03-11 23:18
#104
 | 
Portugal NabasKi 
you forgot the word "incorrectly" after "brain"
2019-03-11 23:18
#187
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
You should correct "you're" to "I'm" in your parent comment.
2019-03-12 20:05
do you know what goat even means
2019-03-11 23:20
no.
2019-03-11 23:21
#111
 | 
Kazakhstan dc7 
im looking at maps astralis lost in the last year about 90% of them were to NiP when f0rest was carrying
2019-03-11 23:23
#112
NEO | 
Yugoslavia sotomonte 
and forest goat cs
2019-03-11 23:25
s1mple is maybe the most skilled csgo player but definetly not the GOAT
2019-03-11 23:27
#118
 | 
Russia KupcaH 
+1
2019-03-11 23:31
#296
 | 
Indonesia XlunnarelX 
+1
2019-03-15 07:07
f0rest GOAT overall. since 2004.
2019-03-11 23:27
> s1mple GOAT CSGO 0/8 most skilled ,ok goat =/= best of all time
2019-03-11 23:34
#121
shox | 
Slovakia TreeMan 
s0mple goat cs go? LMAO! cheap b8. try again.
2019-03-11 23:36
hltv.org/stats/players/career/29/f0rest I think YOU shoud check his stats. This guy is insane. Not GOAT ofc but, a true legend
2019-03-12 17:40
#138
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Did you even read my post? Fine, if you don't want to read it, go watch Thorin's video.
2019-03-12 18:09
s1mple imo isnt the GOAT of csgo yet, just because he really wasnt impactful for the scene the first couple of years, he only really got world class 2 or 3 years ago i think. F0rest has consistently been at the top of the csgo world and because of that , he at least has to be in contention for being the GOAT of csgo. Now obviously s1mple is the best in the world atm and there's no doubt about it, but in order to actually be the GOAT (at least in my opinion) you have to be one of the best in the world for a really long time
2019-03-12 17:48
he is okey player now, but is overrated af
2019-03-12 17:52
#184
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1
2019-03-12 20:04
f0rest is overrated, not even close 2 goat. Tier 2/3 player for 5 last years....
2019-03-12 17:53
#185
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1 smart man
2019-03-12 20:04
#130
 | 
Macedonia trashbait 
f1rest 1major s0mple 0 major
2019-03-12 17:56
#137
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Name checks out
2019-03-12 18:09
Lord Ex6TenZ GOAT css*
2019-03-12 17:57
i think it is stupid to consider GOAt status on overall cs, it should be split by games
2019-03-12 18:01
#136
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Obviously, but I see that having a civilized discussion with arguments is not something that many f0rest fans can do. Most of them are probably kids.
2019-03-12 18:08
#336
 | 
Finland Sopuli 
Judging by your comments you weren't even born when f0rest won a major.
2019-03-16 16:59
#144
 | 
North America AlanSmith 
what can be worse than s1mple fans?
2019-03-12 18:18
#148
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
12 year old glory hunting f0rest/ecovice fans
2019-03-12 18:20
#174
 | 
Israel ReakZez 
nothing ahahaha
2019-03-12 19:55
#147
 | 
Denmark dev111ce 
f0rest 1 major neo 1 major shox 1 major s0mple 0 major xDDD
2019-03-12 18:19
#149
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Device only GOAT in eco rounds
2019-03-12 18:21
3 majors huh someone is still bitchin' bout astralis and devve success overall
2019-03-12 18:26
#183
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
"devve" cringe
2019-03-12 20:03
10IQ
2019-03-12 18:27
#190
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
All the f0rest fanboys denying facts, yes
2019-03-12 20:06
s1mple still with 0 titles. GOAT my ass. It doesnt matter how much skilled he is, whichever team he went to choked at majors.
2019-03-12 19:46
s1mple Goat LMAO. He was best of 2018 but being goat requires consistency. You can't be goat with your 6 months performance. Cs go is still alive, we shouldn't debate on who is goat but, thus far, coldzera is goat; even tho i'm not fan of brazilian players.
2019-03-12 19:49
I don't think S1mple is Goat, but tbh S1mple performance is not since 6 months. He is probably the best since over two years xd
2019-03-12 20:18
No he is not
2019-03-12 20:22
cold, device, gtr, guardian, >>>>> choker statpadder
2019-03-12 20:01
i totally agree, even though i like f0rest. it's clearly not him seeing himself in that position. it's just the community adoring him for being such a cool guy.
2019-03-12 20:01
#182
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Now I see why SPUNj was mad. Fanboys can't take off their delusional cap for one second and think rationally without being extremely biased and present actual arguments instead of insults.
2019-03-12 20:03
your mom is overrated
2019-03-12 20:05
#188
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
hahahoha
2019-03-12 20:05
youre a fkn idiot holy shit, neo goat? ha ha ha ha 0/8
2019-03-14 00:58
agreed with everything you said up until the point where you say that s1mple is the goat of csgo
2019-03-12 20:06
#192
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Ok then, you can have your own opinion on that. just as long as it is supported by arguyments and not "b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but im a 10 yo swedish csgo mm pro and i like f0rest!!!11"
2019-03-12 20:07
fuck forest and fuck swedistan lmao
2019-03-12 20:08
#195
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
So many delusional swedish fans, ikr
2019-03-12 20:09
#206
f0rest | 
Argentina Nawll 
you aggreeing with his comment shows that you don't really care about analizing f0rest's history in the game but you just hate him and his numerous fans which also shows how stupid you are. Why can't you just enjoy these players instead of making stupid ass threads about them? i will never understand fanatism smh.
2019-03-12 20:48
#322
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Who is then, i would say it was s1mple the level of individual skill hes showing is insane and hes doing it against amazing teams.
2019-03-16 13:19
S1mple GOAT of CSGO? my ass Dev1ce is the true GOAT of CSGO.
2019-03-12 20:07
#194
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
s1mple top 1 device never top 1
2019-03-12 20:08
Reply needs to have actual content.
2019-03-12 20:09
also if he would be insane why would we have to say he is the goat after every few map he plays good? we dont do thath whith other superstars who deliver game after game and are better than him
2019-03-12 20:36
#207
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Sweden Velocityyy 
bad bait
2019-03-12 20:49
#209
tabseN | 
France HYPNO5 
+1
2019-03-12 20:53
#218
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
It seems like the French are the highest IQ people in Europe, the only people that seem to be able to comprehend arguments
2019-03-12 21:46
I guess they are just as stupid as you 3rd worlders
2019-03-13 10:53
neo trash with shitty ass highlights
2019-03-12 20:55
#221
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Cry is free
2019-03-12 21:48
#229
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Poland swstk 
Hmm, f0rest is definitely not insane anymore, but he's still a decent player and I think that's why people say f0rest > neo in general all time, because while neo was top 1 in 1.6, he dropped off massively in GO while f0rest is still pretty good, nothing spectacular but better than neo. F0rest has 1.13 rating all time in GO, while neo only 0.98. So to sum it up f0rest was top 2 in 1.6 and still decent in GO and neo was top 1 in 1.6 but kinda bad in GO.
2019-03-12 22:52
GeT_Right is an lurk so he baits a lot but you only watch stats
2019-03-13 09:00
#233
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Turkey Lennon1923 
s1mple goat of cs with one year? xddddddd
2019-03-13 09:13
lmao thoorin, BELONGS IN THE TRASH
2019-03-13 09:16
+1
2019-03-13 09:42
Flusha is the GOAT of CS:GO. f0rwst is the GOAT of 1.6
2019-03-13 10:40
Ye, have to agree. Thorin put everyting very nice. How can you be the goat, if cant be best within your own team. F0rest is a great player and a legend, but definetly not goat
2019-03-13 10:48
then who is? greatest of ALL time, which includes 1.6 and csgo
2019-03-13 10:47
Neo, get right? Edit: maybe not neo, but mby get right
2019-03-13 10:48
f0rest and neo were on the same level in 1.6, neo mightve been better idk. but in csgo neo never got top10 as a player so why would he be the goat? pasher, snax and byali used to be the stars in vp
2019-03-13 10:49
Edited already
2019-03-13 10:49
yy i saw that, its between f0rest and gtr pretty much.
2019-03-13 10:51
Nobody, or else we need to look who played longer. But i dont thinks thats the factor for goat. For me its individual skill or achievments based.
2019-03-15 15:22
f0rest is the goat no doubt. cant say who was better in 1.6 but neo never even got top10 in csgo
2019-03-13 10:47
#263
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
I hope you're trolling
2019-03-13 18:27
simple 0 majors not even contender for GOAT status
2019-03-13 10:49
#252
Jame | 
Portugal gazav 
s1mple? never
2019-03-13 12:03
<3 NEO - thats why u picked neo ukrainian flag - thats why u picked s1mple u r gay - thats why u picked shox
2019-03-13 15:48
#262
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
You have no facts, only feelings that's why you picked b0trest
2019-03-13 18:27
Everybody knows ScreaM is the GOAT
2019-03-13 19:24
#275
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Sweden Trkmag 
f0rest is the GOAT for sure
2019-03-13 22:18
"s1mple GOAT CSGO" xD LUL
2019-03-13 22:21
l just hate simple fans... Let me tell you something you morons: SIMPLE WILL NEVER WIN A MAJOR now go tell each other that simple is goat and jerk off Retarded kids
2019-03-13 22:23
#278
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
F0rest fanboys with single digit IQ and no arguments calling me a "retarded kid" can't fix stupid, I guess
2019-03-13 22:54
#338
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Finland Sopuli 
You say the same things though. Nt
2019-03-16 17:03
Dont guess or think... U r not good at it
2019-03-13 23:28
#291
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Croatia Bruca 
do you fucking have to hate f0rest everyday. im tired of you fucking s1mple fanboys. no loyalty just because top 1. its getting fucking out of control.
2019-03-14 20:55
#292
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
bcko toxic as always
2019-03-14 21:12
#297
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Portugal lvr1 
f0rest is the greatest player of all time, by far. He's never been in a star role (like GTR is, as a lurker, has freedom to play a free game), f0rest plays a supportive/2nd entry type of game, similar to what Xyp9x and Krimz do, but he used to do it much better than them for all the 1.6, and also in early csgo (2013-14), where NiP won 87 straight maps because f0rest was a fucking beast at his role (most teams rellied on entries, awpers and lurkers, NiP had f0rest, a supporter, being a beast). He reinvented the game and himself, he's a joy to watch, always creative, gave a lot to the game. Also, he's a very emotionally stable guy, always cheering his teammates up no matter the situation, super consistent, just a dream for any in-game leader to have a guy like f0rest in his team. While Neo was as good as f0rest in 1.6 (as an AWPer, star player), and nobody else even came close to them, in CS:GO, sadly, Neo didn't find himself. One of the lots of cases of players that suffered from the different movement problems. Don't get me wrong, he's good and has amazing gamesense, playing a supportive role as f0rest, and even took over igl sometimes, but f0rest is just on a level above, super insane and charismatic player, and he's gonna retire as the greatest of all time for sure (a couple more years and somebody might take the reigns tho)
2019-03-15 07:37
#315
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
How can you be the best ever when there are people who have won more and have been better players than him, hes wasnt the best in 1.6 or GO, how can you be the best ever when you were never the best in either. f0rests numbers in GO are good but not greatest of all time numbers.
2019-03-16 13:00
#344
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Portugal lvr1 
Him not being the best in 1.6 is arguable, like I stated, him and Neo were miles away from everyone else, but it's not clear who was the better amongst the two. In CS:GO, f0rest stayed at the top of his game for a while, 2013 seen NiP go 87-0 on LAN, smashing everyone easily, goint on a tear. F0rest surpassed Neo by a huge difference, everyone who has a bit of inteligence knows that f0rest in the history of CS has given more to the game than Neo, he's the better of the two, because they were close on 1.6, but f0rest semented a huge gap on 1.6. So, because f0rest was so good early CS:GO, nobody has had enough time to surpass him individually, NiP were mainly carried by f0rest and GTR on the early days and dominated, no other team can dominate with only two top players, xizt and fifflaren didnt frag, and friberg was good, but not consistent. Astralis' success is greater than NiP's, but it's not due to this or that dude. It's safe to say somebody will take reigns over f0rest as the goat cs player ever, device is the one most likely to catch up, with 3 major wins, flusha could also if he played 2-3 more years at the top of his game like he used to, but as of now noone has had nearly enough time to replicate f0rest's class, as a fragging support player with so many achievements to his name.
2019-03-16 17:39
#345
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
That era was very weak and GTR was clearly better than f0rest, he wasnt the best in 1.6 and hes never been the best in GO he isnt the best ever. Hes a great player but the fact that his era where he was one of the best was very weak and you cant even deny that, that period where they went 87-0 was a very weak era and teams like Astralis would go 150-0 in that era.
2019-03-16 17:46
90% of the people active here only know csgo forest
2019-03-16 12:21
#311
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Yeah the idea hes the best ever makes no sense. He was never the best in CS1.6 or GO, how can you be the best ever wen youve never even been the best once. Neo was better than f0rest in 1.6 and at the end of 1.6 you could argue GeT_RiGhT was better than f0rest and in GO, GeT_RiGhT was much better than f0rest, in recent years thats changed but neither of them are on the level of a Niko, Device or s1mple.
2019-03-16 12:52
#312
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
+1 Thank you Thorin
2019-03-16 12:53
#314
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Its nothing to do with Thorin, i know he said this in a recent video but its obvious, and you can claim some aggregate across 1.6 and GO as they are different games with totally different scenes and one is dead. You cant be the best ever without being the best in the world at one point, then they go on about his level over time, what has he won, his numbers are good but not amazing, and not G.O.A.T numbers, hes a great player but best ever, no. I will also add with the tectical depth in teams now and how teams have perfected team play and utility usage fragging and being a star player has never been harder, back in 1.6 you could just run up mid on Inferno, kill the mid guy, kill the arch guy and run around the map like a maniac, you cant do that anymore, teams are too good.
2019-03-16 12:57
#349
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Portugal lvr1 
If playing on 1.6 was that easy, how come f0rest and neo were the only ones to dominate consistently? I can also state that being a star player no is much easier than 1.6 because of the same arguments that you're stating. Because teamplay has increased significantly, that means the supportive players make everything to make their stars confortable, flash for them, bait for them, go first when they want to trade kills, the purpose of a guy like Styko is to make ropz, sunny and oskar shine. Back in 1.6, everyone tried to frag and be a star player in every team, so having to play on your own, with no help from teammates, made it harder to frag a lot (f0rest played at a role that didn't require him to frag, not a star role and it's expected that you don't frag, and carried games more often than not, people don't understand how insane and hard that is). But that is flawless, because people in 1.6 were no dummies, and they were inteligent and had good teamplay, that was what separated a good team from an insane team
2019-03-16 17:50
#351
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
never said it was easy i said it was easier to frag in 1.6 than GO and many pros agree, CSGO is far more tactical. Teams now have much better tactics and team play then they did back in 1.6, then add in how much more complex utility is there is just more you can do to offset aim then you could 1.6.
2019-03-16 17:54
hltv.org/stats/players/29/f0rest?matchTy.. what stats are you talking about? i can see f0rest being above gtr here
2019-03-16 16:53
#350
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
But thats now, we are talking when GTR and f0rest were at their best in 2012-14.
2019-03-16 17:50
#325
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
S1mple could win a tournament never again and he would be still GOAT. Because he is the best player that touched CS of all times. Astralis can win 10 Majors but their single players will never be considered as the GOAT. Because S1mple personal level is enough to play like a whole team. Something Astralis dont have. They can't win a single map when they are no team.
2019-03-16 13:27
xyp9x and gla1ve will be as a goat of clutch / igl
2019-03-16 16:54
#346
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
s1mple 2 clutches way last year from top1. So nope that isn't enough to be called GOAT in a category when the GOAT is directly behind you. And Pronax>Glaive because his team played more entertaining and play with more risk plays. They dont try to be perfect and still win
2019-03-16 17:43
#353
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
CS is about winning in the most dominant and effective way possible, glaives team is doing it against better teams in more dominant fashion, glaive is also a better player individually aswell as being a better IGL.
2019-03-16 17:58
#328
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Sweden fxzo 
People still calling simple the GOAT an he didn't win a major lol friberg 1 major s1mple 0
2019-03-16 16:50
The GOAT of 1.6 is Markellof, Forest comes second.
2019-03-16 17:08
f0rest mayb a bad player ok fine, but s1mple GOAT? excuse me pls lol, A BIG NO there.
2019-03-16 17:47
the hole world knows neo best 1.6 player
2019-03-16 17:52
#354
f0rest | 
Romania warowl 
goat cs 1.6 NEO god CSGO Olofmeister god CSS dont care
2019-03-16 18:03
#355
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Olof was ranked number one once and he hasnt been even in the running for the worlds best since and for the last 8 months hes been average so no, Olof is the best in csgo and hes my favourite player. s1mple is 21, and hes delivering numbers we have never seen before, hes much better than Olof ever was Olof was just in a much better team, the best in GO is between Cold, Device and s1mple, i lean towards Cold or S1mple as device is just an Awper and has such a good team around him that he never really has to carry.
2019-03-16 18:11
#358
f0rest | 
Romania warowl 
Ok, s1mple is a very good player but cannot be looked as the best in csgo history because he did not win anything of a real importance. If you follow this logic the best cs 1.6 player ever was someone like zet, trace or Delpan-insanely skilled but not a lot of medals under their belt. Good arguments though.
2019-03-16 19:24
#365
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
But thats not his fault, thats his teams fault, hes given his teams everything he has and then some and they dont perform well enough, the numbers hes dropping are insane, like 30-40 kills is just what you expect at this point its mental. Winning things requires a good team, to be the best player is all about your skill, s1mple is performing better than Device in a worse team, that says it all. S1mple is performing better than JW, Flusha, Olof, f0rest, GTR, Shox, KennyS, Cold or any other great GO player ever has and hes doing it in a worse team, in arguably a tougher era, the only team that can contain him is Astralis and they are i think without argument the best team ever.
2019-03-16 20:18
#359
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
hes peoples goat not stats goat its alot of diference when he clutches a round an when other players do he has swag, great movements and sick aim its like commparing maradona with shevchenko , maradona has 0 ballondors and sheva have 1 so its not just how many mvps you have its how you do this and how long you can do this
2019-03-16 19:28
#368
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United Kingdom sirdetmist 
Shev also wasnt a drug cheat. Hes also played in europe with the best and against the best, Maradona only played the best once every 4 years.
2019-03-16 20:28
but its 2019.........
2019-03-16 19:33
#362
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Germany Naviever 
Edward GOAT of cs1.6 S1mple GOAT of CSGO I dont mind CSS
2019-03-16 19:55
ho lee fuk this therad is useless
2019-03-17 00:16
It's not about stats, we can clearly see who is the more mechanically skilled player.
2019-03-17 00:50
#383
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United Kingdom Grief277 
+1 i love get right but it's undeniable that f0rest has much better mechanical skill.
2019-03-17 00:56
Yeah true and it's not like when GTR was dominating CS GO early days his role took insane skill... he used his brain more than his aim when he was lurking and timing > aim in those scenarios but f0rest even old man now can still aim with young aim stars, really good movement as well.
2019-03-17 01:11
#388
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France funKKush182 
Simple G.O.A.T of CSGO? Funniest shit i've heard all week
2019-03-17 16:09
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