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Why device GOAT
SmithZz | 
Belgium Chuckyyy 
He appeared in the top 5 HLTV FOUR fucking times in a row ( 2 times top 3, 1 time top 2 and only 1 time top 5 ). If he isn't the GOAT, who the fuck is ?
2019-03-12 19:08
probably not the guy who is known as ecokiller
2019-03-12 19:08
can you name him?
2019-03-12 19:09
Yeah s1mple never gets eco frags Kappa
2019-03-12 19:09
He constantly gets the below the nr 1 spot on the rankings but he is the nr 1 player of all time? ok buddy, great logic
2019-03-12 19:46
I think you have a problem with "all time"
2019-03-12 19:50
What does GOAT stands for? I never seen this word before
2019-03-12 22:50
Just google it homie.
2019-03-16 04:50
GOAT=greatest of all time
2019-03-16 20:00
its about device, not b8zera
2019-03-12 19:12
you mean Coldzera?
2019-03-12 19:31
#79
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Peru ossaPixel 
+1
2019-03-16 09:33
#24
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Denmark MrLagzy 
What do you expect? His opponents have to ECO all the time because they get distinguished during buy rounds too!
2019-03-12 19:32
Distinguished makes NO sense in that sentence. Please fix.
2019-03-16 00:58
Decimated, fixed
2019-03-16 05:24
#82
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Denmark MrLagzy 
lol yeah.. wanted to write disintegrated. xD
2019-03-16 12:28
ty for the fix :)
2019-03-16 14:49
Yeah they have to eco because xyp, gla1ve, dupreeh and magisk winning over them all the time aim duels, and here he is, ecovice. I dont hate device but when i watch them play this is literary what he is doing, hunting for ecos, alot ppl say he want money for awp but dude when you have 10k its obvious as fuck xD
2019-03-16 09:33
Tom Cruise
2019-03-12 19:10
device is a goat because his gf is a female goat
2019-03-12 19:10
I did not expect this chuckyyy I'm disappointed……
2019-03-12 19:11
Sorry my friend
2019-03-12 19:11
Just keep on going with the g2 threads because they actually have potential for a top5 team with amanek
2019-03-12 19:15
i think you mean top 1
2019-03-12 19:20
#42
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Poland anton1oo 
0/8
2019-03-12 19:45
#8
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Switzerland IJesuZzzz 
F0rest my friend :) The ultimate GOAT
2019-03-12 19:11
lol. Neo is the GOAT in 1.6, and just cus f0rest have been decent in CS:GO dose not mean he is the GOAT. youtube.com/watch?v=FX07F1u6-5w Watch and learn lol
2019-03-12 19:14
He even say in the video you can make a case for both of them being GOAT in 1.6 ''decent'' in CSGO He have way better HLTV top 20 than most and compared to NEO he make him look trash So if you add CSGO+1.6 f0rest is GOAT His main point of that video is that if you say f0rest is GOAT in all of CS you can make a strong point and say device is GOAT in CSGO even tho he say HE DONT THINK THAT
2019-03-12 19:19
Yeah, its between Neo and f0rest in 1.6, both have a claim to be the GOAT of 1.6. I agree. But you cant say cus he was sick in 1.6 and decent in GO that he is somehow the GOAT of CS. You cant compare two different games.
2019-03-12 19:33
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Switzerland IJesuZzzz 
Thanks dude @vodkacsgod. F0rest in CS history (+1.6) is the GOAT yes. Hahahah F0rest is "decent" in CS:GO OMEGALUL. Device is in the Game CS:GO the GOAT yes, I agree. But for me the term GOAT is over all versions of the game.
2019-03-12 19:27
You cant compare that omfg. 1.6 is not the same as CS:GO LOL And yes F0rest have only been decent in CS:GO. Have never been the number 1 player, and rn is barly better than Get_right, just cus he had a better than average major dose not mean he have performed that way since 2013. And a guy like fx s1mple, will never be able to be called GOAT cus you think its about 1.6+CS:GO. What a retarded logic you have, but guess flair checks out.
2019-03-12 19:30
#30
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Switzerland IJesuZzzz 
What ever you say man. In the name GOAT is "ALL TIME" so why don't include the total history of the player. (+1.6) You say, the Greatest player of ALL TIME is only in CS:GO. Sure dude, good luck with that. gg /close
2019-03-12 19:34
ITS TWO DIFFERENT GAMES. You cant take his accomplishments in 1.6, and somehow make them relevant in CS:GO. But by your retarded logic, if f0rest is the GOAT of CS then you have to admit that Device is the GOAT of CS:GO.
2019-03-12 19:36
Because you literally cant play "counterstrike" so to be the goat of the so called "franchise" is basically a made up term. Hes debatably the goat of 1.6 and he was a top player in csgo for 1 year (2013, #2)
2019-03-16 04:37
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ritch | 
United Kingdom Meffus 
F0rest was the best in 1.6. Then zet. Then fr0d/neo.
2019-03-12 19:37
No potti? No markeloff? No Get_right? Riiiight buddy. But IDC if f0rest is the best of 1.6, thats not the point. You cant say GOAT of CS, cus 1.6 and CS:GO is not the same game.
2019-03-12 19:39
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ritch | 
United Kingdom Meffus 
Defo not no. They weren’t as good as f0rest.
2019-03-12 22:38
Very debatable lol. Take of the rose tinted glasses. F0rest lost so many major finals in 1.6. Get Right was the best of those two in the last 2,5-3 years. Potti was sick in the start, and Neo was just sick.
2019-03-12 22:41
#54
ritch | 
United Kingdom Meffus 
Yes they were all sick... f0rest is still the best player I’ve seen. The guy is a legit genius. Just saying. My experience vs these guys is that he is the best. Get right was difficult to play agains t but not in the same way as f0rest.
2019-03-12 22:45
Not saying he wasnt. Just think Neo was better overall, but both f0rest and Neo have a solid claim on the GOAT. But even IF f0rest was the GOAT of 1.6, dose not mean that he then is the GOAT of CS overall, cus its two different games
2019-03-12 22:48
#57
ritch | 
United Kingdom Meffus 
Yeah agree different game. I can’t speak much on CSGO I was never competitive in the game and haven’t followed it too closely. I’m sure there are many other names to throw into the debate. Also re1ease was best CSS ;)
2019-03-12 22:52
Thorin actually made a great video about this. youtube.com/watch?v=FX07F1u6-5w
2019-03-12 19:13
The thread was obviously about the goat of csgo why does every single forest fangay have to get so defensive
2019-03-12 19:21
No idea. But if they want to call f0rest the GOAT of CS (Which you cant), then Device is the GOAT of CS:GO. But it dosent make any sense
2019-03-12 19:31
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Poland wiktorex 
its just nonsense when people call f0rest GOAT of cs and not get_right thoorin is right
2019-03-12 19:34
Just retarded to have this conversation. You cant compare two different games.
2019-03-12 19:37
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Poland wiktorex 
why retarded? who the fuck compares the. we compare players and get_right is GOAT of cs People only look at 2016 + but get_right was better than f0rest 4 years straight in cs go kek
2019-03-12 19:39
Its retarded to have a conversation about 1.6 and CS:GO as if they are the same game. You can have a GOAT of 1.6, a GOAT for souce and a GOAT for CS:GO. But i agree, get_right in CS:GO was better than f0rest. And f0rest is barely better than get_right rn.
2019-03-12 19:40
GOAT hahahahaha... noway
2019-03-12 19:14
Smithzz ofc axaxaxaxaxa
2019-03-12 19:15
snax is goat guardian is goat nobody remember device flashy plays -> they dont exist
2019-03-12 19:23
+1
2019-03-16 09:31
you can not be one of the best if you've never been the best 😎
2019-03-12 19:31
#26
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Poland wiktorex 
+1
2019-03-12 19:33
#25
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Poland wiktorex 
hahaha wtf is this 0/8
2019-03-12 19:33
#27
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United States yuk0n 
Forsaken is the true GOAT, perfect aim. Unfortunate that skill can be mistaken for hacking nowadays.
2019-03-12 19:33
Yeah good point
2019-03-16 00:56
+1 Finally a smart hltv user!
2019-03-12 19:35
how can he be the goat without a top1?
2019-03-12 19:36
because nobody has been as good as device has been throughout csgo history. that's what goat means you moron
2019-03-12 19:47
thats what consistency means, not GOAT. nt tho.
2019-03-12 19:49
and all time doesn't mean one year :) nt brazilian brains
2019-03-12 20:02
Greatest of (of can be interpreted as during here) So - Greatest during ALL of the TIME that the game has existed. Throughout all of the time device has been better, coldzera had a higher peak. And with device joining the 3 major winner category he pretty much beats every other candidate in their argument. Cold has only been relevant for 4 years mid 2015 to now. Device got his first top 20 in 2014 meaning he had been playing tier 1 CS a full year and a half before cold did anything. On top of that device has consistently been the best player on the best team of all time. Most of the arguments point to him being the GOAT currently besides raw stats and top 1s if you highly value them then I guess you'd say s1mple or cold is the GOAT.
2019-03-16 04:47
p1mple goat LUL
2019-03-12 19:37
ecovice LUL
2019-03-12 19:39
ecovice #2 s1mple #1, cry is free my friend
2019-03-12 19:43
DevveGOD_3_majors_1_grand_slam_B8zera_2_majors_0_grand_slam, cry is free my men)))
2019-03-16 05:17
Colzera or Get_Right.
2019-03-12 19:46
Why dev1ce? Why not Kenny? Explain.
2019-03-12 20:43
KennyS has been very consistent for the past few years but he never managed to get in the top 5 and he also missed 2018's Top 20
2019-03-12 21:23
Ok so missed top 5 = not GOAT. Why don't you bring a TOP 1 or TOP 10 stat? Kenny has better stats than dev1ce in both categories.
2019-03-12 23:09
Kenny has never been #1 lol? And device has more top 10s, tournament wins, better stats, and obviously the 3 majors. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7592/devi..
2019-03-16 04:41
Yeah I know but he was #1 for one of the highest number of days.
2019-03-16 09:01
Also I think he has more days in top 5 than dev1ce but I don't have stats to back me up. Yearly ratings are shit and very overrated.
2019-03-16 09:27
So yearly rankings are a bad way to differentiate players but # of days in a top 5 team (which device is still ahead in) is a good way? That's pretty backwards
2019-03-16 12:35
Yeah. Just see Kenny is 3rd in terms of highest days at #1 but still no top 1. 1-S1mple 2-GtR 3-Kenny He was the best by far in 2014,2015 but still no #1 despite winning DH cluj-napoca in 2015. He has 1044 days in top 10 while not being ranked in #10 for last 1 year till Feb. But still 1 in terms of that, dev1ce is 2nd despite playing in much superior team.
2019-03-16 12:44
He is
2019-03-16 04:25
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Algeria RunGo 
gtr 2010 #2 2011 #2 2013 #1 2014 #1
2019-03-16 04:48
back when the professional scene was shit.
2019-03-16 04:56
#70
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Algeria RunGo 
still more enjoyable to watch than 2018
2019-03-16 05:27
2010, 2011 shit?
2019-03-16 09:07
Lol, as if 1.6 was shit?
2019-03-16 09:31
Yeah. Have you ever seen a pro game during 1.6? Pro's have evolved sooo much since then.
2019-03-16 19:43
Also #1 2009 and would have been #1 2012
2019-03-16 09:32
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Brazil MIBR_Top_One 
Denmark.org
2019-03-16 05:33
#75
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Finland kusi11 
how can someone be the goat if they never been the best. besides buy this logic some one like neo or forest should be the goat. neo was relevant over a decade and hes been top 1
2019-03-16 09:38
But you only consider the useless HLTV ranking.. what about winning the major and getting MVP? Is that not being the best?
2019-03-16 19:46
Of course he is not the goat, anyone who watches CS would know this. His stats, just like coldzeras, are massively inflated by the structure of his team who sets him up. He mainly gets passive frags and isn’t a playmaker at all. I’m a big coldzera antifan but even coldzera is better than dev1ce. Dev1ce wouldn’t have the same numbers in another team
2019-03-16 09:34
You talk out of your ass
2019-03-16 19:46
? All of this is true, what’s the issue?
2019-03-17 00:42
If we only look at highest placings throughout the years,he is the GOAT but can someone be the GOAT without being the best player for an entire year?Thats very debateable
2019-03-16 19:56
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