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Major flukes
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Brazil Desteriction 
Gambit Cloud9 Complexity QBF/Winstrike And now ENCE
2019-03-12 20:58
#1
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Cry is free
2019-03-12 20:59
#85
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
typical na brain, still screeching "boston wasnt a fluke"
2019-03-12 21:50
UK cs
2019-03-12 22:20
#93
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
na uk, exactly like uk, but slightly worse
2019-03-12 22:21
UK 1 pro player NA multiple tier 1-2 teams nt
2019-03-12 22:22
#96
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
na 2 countries not founded by uk uk 1 country founded by uk
2019-03-12 22:23
If you are using that logic than 90% of Europe are Romans and all their accomplishments are owed to the Roman Empire
2019-03-12 22:24
#100
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
no because that was 2000 years ago, this was less than 50, nt, this lack of knowledge of ur own country is expected from an na brain though
2019-03-12 22:26
Go back and read what you sent
2019-03-13 07:29
1867 wasn't 50y years ago? 1776 wasn't 5o years ago as well?
2019-03-13 12:26
#130
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
1982 wasnt 50 years ago? nt dominion
2019-03-13 17:56
You are honestly retarded. It was over 150 anx 250 years ago. Welp
2019-03-13 12:28
There's tons of you guys in every single competitive game, yet you have 0 pro scene in any of them lmao.
2019-03-13 12:30
#116
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Romania hiei59 
Ok hungry, now get out of my country and stfu.
2019-03-13 12:44
nt gypsy
2019-03-13 12:44
#120
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Romania hiei59 
Why the fuck are you still here? Get out I said!
2019-03-13 12:45
nt hungarian colony.
2019-03-13 12:47
#124
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Romania hiei59 
Colony with double the population. Nt bozgor brain
2019-03-13 12:49
#127
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Romania hiei59 
You do realise that's pure bullshit right? Anyway, I was only joking. I actually have nothing against you guys :)
2019-03-13 12:51
#132
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
and we all know how good budapest 5 is was*
2019-03-13 17:57
> 1/7th of your population > Less than half your gdp per capita > Still had a scene.
2019-03-13 19:10
#153
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
yes budapest 5 counts nt
2019-03-13 20:39
Lol UK premiership features your top talents, and they are all pathetically horrible.. NT
2019-03-13 20:45
#157
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
still better than budapest 5, nt dominion
2019-03-13 20:48
ok brexit
2019-03-13 20:48
#159
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
insulting us with a good thing? nt north usa
2019-03-13 20:49
#285
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Can you please just shut the fuck up?
2019-03-14 22:35
+1
2019-03-14 22:45
+1 dude you're embarrassing us
2019-03-15 00:24
#301
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
cry is free
2019-03-15 12:15
#302
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
"Cry is free" is one constantly used sentence to users who are complaining about something. But what most don't know, is that this sentence is actually a huge lie. As far as we know, tears consist of water and 0,9 gram salt per litre. And both of these ingredients are not free. Here I listed the price for 10 litre tears for the countries of the G8. I used the following formula (price is in US Dollar): (Price 100 gram salt/100)x9 + (Price 1 cubic litre water/100) = Price for 10 Litre Tears France: 0,20 $ Italy: 0,17 $ Germany: 0,19 $ United Kingdom: 0,22 $ USA: 0,18 $ Canada: 0,18 $ Japan: 0,18 $ Russia: 0,16 $ That means Russia has the cheapest cry.
2019-03-15 17:00
#304
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
why are you crying if ur cry has the highest price?
2019-03-15 18:05
#305
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
cos we live in first world men)))
2019-03-15 18:19
both of you are so stupid and big losers
2019-03-14 22:47
#300
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
cool
2019-03-15 12:15
Basically Italy then. Italian cs lul
2019-03-13 20:58
#233
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United Kingdom Dogehino 
What are you saying? In the 1600's Britain discovered America.
2019-03-13 22:29
#113
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Finland Fury2J 
LMAO uk vs na both are terrible but na more handsome and chill players and uk just pure toxicity
2019-03-13 12:31
NA better than UK 100%
2019-03-13 12:44
#133
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
hmmmm, is there any chance this is biased? nt dominion
2019-03-13 17:58
so if you mention bias, then your statement is biased making both statements invalid.. UK brain...
2019-03-13 20:42
#156
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
if i have uk brain, and ur parents were probably born before 1982, back when it was a dominion, then dont you have an inherited uk brain?
2019-03-13 20:45
#119
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Romania hiei59 
Almost 90% of the UK guys I've met in FACEIT or mm are really nice and cool. You can't say they have "pure toxicity" only because smooya is a toxic fuck
2019-03-13 12:45
#122
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Finland Fury2J 
I did not say it because of smooya I said it based on my own experience
2019-03-13 12:47
#160
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
NA multiple tier 1-2 Teams ? Where ? I only see Liquid and im talking about Liquid with TACO not with Snake2K
2019-03-13 20:50
c9, NRG, liquid also without our money BR scene would be nothing
2019-03-13 20:51
#163
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
NRG tier 1-2 ? since when ? since the 0-3 from the MAJOR ? also they have CerQ who is from the EU, C9 isnt evena good team and half of their roaster is from the EU, Liquid got destroyed by Rogue and by ENCE and will keep getting worse, Ok ? It doesnt change the fact that the NA scene is shit
2019-03-13 20:53
NA more teams at major than Poorzil Your best team hasnt done shit in how long????
2019-03-13 20:57
#167
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
you kinda forget that our team got destroyed by your 2 NA bots and that Liquid got boosted by TACO, and even so, what has Liquid done ? nice 2nd places, Brazil 2 Majors - NA 1 fluke Major
2019-03-13 20:58
Yea your shitty team picked up good players and continued to play like shit.
2019-03-13 20:59
#172
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
good players ? a player that randomly push smokes and gets killed and a player with a peanut brain ?
2019-03-13 21:00
monkey talking about peanut brain LOL
2019-03-13 21:00
#176
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
you dont have nothing else to say so you are being racist, expected from peanut brain
2019-03-13 21:02
Dont have anything to say because im talking to a money. Like I stated earlier, OOOH AH AH
2019-03-13 21:09
#180
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
lol you are so sad
2019-03-13 21:17
Sad because some 3rd worlder thinks he is hot shit for living in Poorzil the country with 1 decent CS team.
2019-03-13 21:18
#183
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
better then NA with 0 decent cs teams, you best cs go NA team in history has a brazilian in it, now that Liquid has a full NA lineup they will drop and become irrelevant, just watch them fail while MIBR raise
2019-03-13 21:20
So ignorant, so poor, so Brazilian..
2019-03-13 21:22
#185
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
dont get your point, you sound like a sad guy with a sad life who is just spending his life being racist on HLTV
2019-03-13 21:23
At the end of the day all you have is 1 mediocre cs team. You live in a shitty corrupt country and run your mouth online.The only thing you have is 5 people out of 200 000 000 that are decent at a video game. I am not sad for calling it how it is, you are just an idiot and that is all you can say.
2019-03-13 21:25
#188
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
We are the gods at the biggest sport in the world, You talk shit about brazilian cs but Canadian cs is no existant and NA doesnt even have a good cs team, im happy with my life and proud to be from brazil
2019-03-13 21:28
Gods don't lose 7-1 in a final to Germany.
2019-03-13 21:28
#192
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
doesnt matter, we have 5 word cups, thats all it matters, every champion loose, just like how Astralis lost 1-16 to North
2019-03-13 21:29
Be proud to be from a corrupt shithole, your pride means nothing to anyone from any other place because most places are better than Brazil.
2019-03-13 21:29
#193
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
not true at all, but you will never undurstand, too close minded to even try to
2019-03-13 21:30
Any country that is destroying their major ecosystem for foreign invested money is corrupt, 23% of people in poverty. the favela, crime rates etc... Sounds like paradise. Nice olympics btw, environment so shit they debated cancelling
2019-03-13 21:32
If Brazilians didn't act like monkeys no one would call them monkeys. But yet here you guys are, flocking to hltv to boast about BR CS, a dying scene.
2019-03-13 21:27
#190
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
and how do we act like monkeys ? you are just being racist
2019-03-13 21:28
Look at any forum thread during a major or any tournament, playing with BRazlians is cancer, all you retards do is act arrogantly and play like shit.
2019-03-13 21:30
#196
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
no its not ? whats the problem with having a competetive spirit, and he have one of the best team to ever play cs we have the right to be proud, SK/LG was the first team that was able to beat the EU gods of cs
2019-03-13 21:32
#197
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
any way the conversation was about how the NA cs go scene was not better than the Brazilian one, and how Canada have only 2 good players
2019-03-13 21:34
Twizts Naf Daps Semphis Davey Connor93 Moose GMD Subroza Steel Wardell Shroud ( when he played) Stanislaw Tenz VSA
2019-03-13 21:36
#201
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Twistz Naf and Wardell thats all and Wardell is too young to judge for me dont talk to me about Shroud pls, I forgot about stanislaw
2019-03-13 21:37
Those aer just canadians too Autimatic Rush Elige Nitro Ethan Etc List goes on Moral is NA has many talented players. Stop responding you lose this argument.
2019-03-13 21:40
#203
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
uh ?? since when those players are canadians ? Your country only has 3 good players that havnt done anything in their career
2019-03-13 21:42
#204
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
dont forget that Liquid hasnt done shit without TACO, they won a tier 5 event with bugs and lags and games that where delayed by 3h
2019-03-13 21:43
#227
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Cyprus delur 
ofc youre gunna go on about how its tier 5 and bugs. Riddle me this favela boy if its tier 5 why was the top #1 and #2 ranked teams in world at this tourny? liquid with taco also never beat astralis in a bo3 you are DELUDED
2019-03-13 22:20
#229
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Liquid with TACO at least won normal tournaments without bugs and sstuff, and I buyPower is a tier 3 event and Astralis and Liquid went there to play some games before the Major, the event was full of bugs and technical issues, you can check it by yourself, this was the second worst cs go tournament ever
2019-03-13 22:23
#231
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Cyprus delur 
the fact that liquid and astralis were there means its a not a low tier tournament you are just proving my point more about your delusion
2019-03-13 22:25
#232
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
2 good teams dont make a tournament a tier 1, also the format was shit and the other teams where shit, so your argument is 100% wrong and dumb
2019-03-13 22:27
#171
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
also Denmark had only 1 Team at the Major but look, they are the best team in the history of cs
2019-03-13 20:59
Astralis>MIBR Denmark- North, fragsters, Astralis, Optic,etc
2019-03-13 21:00
#175
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
I know ? havent said otherwise ???
2019-03-13 21:00
Their scene isnt just 1- decent team that is not performing at all and a bunch of shitty t3 teams that will never do anything because they are all washed up.
2019-03-13 21:10
#182
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
idk what you are talking about, MIBR had great stats this major and did way better then Liquid
2019-03-13 21:18
#205
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
So in the final : Brazil has 2 Majors, Canada 0 and Team Liquid hasnt done shit without TACO great
2019-03-13 21:47
Didnt they just beat astralis in a final>
2019-03-13 21:47
#208
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
the event was a joke, and every player that played in that tournament said it, your boy steel spammed twitter with his tweets saying that the servers where fucked that there was almost no sound and shit like that, undeserved win
2019-03-13 21:48
So liquid wins something and its joke, but MIBR gets the easiest major path and thats an accomplishment OK retard you have proven yourself to be ignorant
2019-03-13 21:52
#213
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
well the event was a joke every pro player said it, the games where delayed by 3h each and some teams had to play outside of a balcon instead on the scene, so yea the event was a joke and you cant deny that, also Liquid had the easisest path to the finals of the Major, ENCE a tier 3 team and Navi wich is a team that is falling apart with every day
2019-03-13 21:54
Denial
2019-03-13 21:56
#217
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
dont know what that word means
2019-03-13 21:56
Of course you don't
2019-03-13 22:06
Canada 36,000,000 people Brazil 200,000,000
2019-03-13 21:47
#209
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
and ? Doesnt change the fact that Brazil has 100 times better scene than Canada thats just a fact
2019-03-13 21:49
So 5 players is 100x better than 2 players. BR logic
2019-03-13 21:51
#212
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
5 players that won 2 Majors and won a bunch of tournaments and became one of the best cs go roaster
2019-03-13 21:52
Astralis is best "roaster"
2019-03-13 21:56
#218
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
cant you read ? I said ONE of the best cs go roasters
2019-03-13 21:56
Roster* Nice edit
2019-03-13 22:06
#225
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
didnt edit shit, just shows how retarded you are
2019-03-13 22:06
bet
2019-03-13 22:32
Nice showing by MIBR today. Losing in 1 Mil tournament to Bulgarians, lol.
2019-03-14 15:22
#274
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
it happens
2019-03-14 16:56
MIBR= Bad
2019-03-14 22:01
#280
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
ok ?
2019-03-14 22:13
#234
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Cyprus delur 
not just 2 good teams the top 2 rated teams IN THE FUCKING WORLD. Make all the excuses you want about bugs and technical issues, liquid won the bo3 WITHOUT taco. Youre actually so stupid it hurts, people like you are the reason we call you guys monkies
2019-03-13 22:29
#237
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
yes they won it but it doesnt change the fact that the event was a joke and everyone said it and agree on that, they won the B03 fine i guess that is worth it what its worth, its crazy how racist and anti brazilian the Hltv community is
2019-03-13 22:32
#238
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Cyprus delur 
just to spit more fire about it being low tier event because of how uneducated you are. Astralis #1 Liquid #2 Faze #4 Fnatic #5 Cloud 9 #7 4 TEAMS FROM THE TOP 5 AT THE CURRENT TIME WERE AT THE TOURNAMENT. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PROVE YOUR RETARDATION MORE BY SAYING HOW LOW TIER OF AN EVENT IT WAS.
2019-03-13 22:39
#239
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
C9 isnt even a real team full of stand ins and players in trial, FaZe is falling apart since NiKo took the IGL role Fnatic : their results at the Major showed how shit they are
2019-03-13 22:40
#243
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Cyprus delur 
all 3 teams youre trying to shit on were all ranked higher than your all mighty messiahs at the time hahahaha the team youre praising was worse than a "team full of stand ins" and a team thats "falling apart" hahahahahahaha
2019-03-13 22:46
#246
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
of course ? at that time MIBR traded Stewie for TACO and didnt even had a 5 player roaster
2019-03-13 22:47
#250
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Cyprus delur 
all the excuses hahahahaha
2019-03-13 22:50
#252
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
? not an excuse just a fact, go check it
2019-03-13 22:51
#241
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Low Tier event with shit teams and shit format, you are too retarded to undurstand it
2019-03-13 22:41
#245
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Cyprus delur 
The fact that youre still calling it low tier shows your monkey brain that much more LOL
2019-03-13 22:47
#248
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
The fact that you are being racist shows how bad you have been educated and how dumb you are
2019-03-13 22:47
#251
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Cyprus delur 
you lost a while ago but keep making yourself look worse XD
2019-03-13 22:51
#254
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
you are making yourself look worse with being a racist
2019-03-13 22:52
#255
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Cyprus delur 
I openly don't like Brazilians and Natives it is what it is. You keep calling it a low tier event even though I TOLD YOU why it is not a low tier event. I'm alright with being a racist, much better off than you with your retardation.
2019-03-13 22:59
#257
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Because it is a tier 5 event, only 2 good teams, the other team were shit the format was dumb and the event had alot of delayed games and some teams had to played outside the event with no sound, how is that tier 1 event ? EliGE and NAF complained that the games almost didnt had sound because of the crowd, also you know that a big part of HLTV is fakeflagging right ? maybe dont judge ppl by their flag, because it may not be their real one
2019-03-13 23:03
#262
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Cyprus delur 
"2 good teams" you arent listening LOL. Also I am a fakeflagger hahahaha why do you think im defending NA so much? Let me repeat again... 4 OF THE 5 TOP RANKED TEAMS AT THE TIME WERE AT THE TOURNAMENT, THE QUALITY OF STREAMS AND VENUE DOES NOT DETERMINE WHAT "TIER" THE TOURNAMENT IS THE TEAMS THAT COME TO PLAY DETERMINE WHAT IT IS. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND SMELL THE FRESH AIR. YOU ARE ONLY MAD BECAUSE MIBR DIDNT GET INVITED. CRY IS FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2019-03-14 01:02
#263
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
How can MIBR get invited ? They didnt have a team back then, also im telling you that if u take the HLTv ranking seriously that means that you are a retard, only 2 good teams doesnt matter if u liked it or not, its a fact and facts dont care about your feelings
2019-03-14 07:07
#264
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
but if u wat to take the ranking seriosly fine, 1) Astralis 2) Navi 3) Liquid 4) mouse 5) MIBR 6) NiP 7) FaZe 8) NRG 9) Fnatic 10 ) North So yes you only had 2 tier 1 teams, also the format was shit too much B01's that are irrelevant, look at how retarded and stupid you are ,the format was shit the teams there were shit, the whole event was shit and you still say that its a tier 1 event, that shows how braindead you are, I mean what should i expect from a burger brain ?
2019-03-14 07:17
#265
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
twitter.com/astralisgg/status/1085177990.. You cant even check the ranking at the time, how retarded have you to be ?
2019-03-14 07:18
#268
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Cyprus delur 
those ranks were from 2 WEEKS before the tournament, you're actually are retarded HAHAHAHAHA god the monkey brain shows hard. PS : stick to your dirty portuguese language. Your grammer being horrible doesn't help your case either.
2019-03-14 12:48
#273
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
check the date of the event retard,
2019-03-14 16:55
#275
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Cyprus delur 
my bad 1 week instead of 2 you are still wrong monkey guy
2019-03-14 18:57
#276
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
im not wrong, the ranking is right before the event, check again
2019-03-14 19:06
#277
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
keep being racist, you are too stupid to realise that not only you are fake flagging
2019-03-14 19:07
#281
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Europe PlatinumToe 
You got a hard fanbase to defend. I red some of your correspondence. And seeing how ppl join in the conversation against you. I just wanna tell you that most of your statements are true and your logic is way better than any of these guys. That beside you seem like a better person than these guys you are arguing against. Let these idiots be idiots, don't let them get to you. Cheers mate, have a good day
2019-03-14 22:23
#283
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Thanks alot men, you dont know how good it feels to read a comment like that
2019-03-14 22:30
#284
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Cyprus delur 
needs support from a random EUROFAG to feel good are you 12??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-03-14 22:34
#286
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
Ppl like him give me hope that they are still some ppl with brains on this forums
2019-03-14 22:36
#288
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Cyprus delur 
cry is always free
2019-03-14 22:39
#289
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
and autism is always present with you
2019-03-14 22:40
#290
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Cyprus delur 
cey is free
2019-03-14 22:41
#291
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Europe PlatinumToe 
I thought you might need it after getting attacked from every side. I think you handled it well, but its hard to reason with a lot of people here. So cheer up :)
2019-03-14 22:43
#270
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Cyprus delur 
your almighty messiah team lost to fucking WINDIGO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOP KEK MONKEY BOI
2019-03-14 14:37
+1 Obviously a fluke. It was still amazing tho
2019-03-13 22:25
#247
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
+1
2019-03-13 22:47
#137
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Europe Sam2k 
Liquid ESL one cologne
2019-03-13 19:11
+1
2019-03-12 20:59
LG
2019-03-12 20:59
#8
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Brazil Desteriction 
How is that a fluke if they won several tournaments after that and then another major under a different org?
2019-03-12 21:00
So you rate 8/8?
2019-03-12 21:02
#16
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Brazil Desteriction 
Yeah they’ve won 8 out of 8 events they attended
2019-03-12 21:03
#29
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Russia v1p3rrr 
hahaha he didn't even understand this
2019-03-12 21:12
#47
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Russia zbogus 
fluke=run that wasn't supposed to happen liquid go on to create the biggest choke in this game history navi's best player gets injured before the final after eliminating all the other contenders for the title under normal circumstances, there is no way lg would win that major
2019-03-12 21:23
#59
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Brazil Desteriction 
Stupid ruski
2019-03-12 21:31
He is right tho
2019-03-12 21:34
Deleted with facts
2019-03-12 21:36
#107
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Portugal S4nd 
+1
2019-03-13 06:23
#90
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Russia zbogus 
Sorry if I upset you but if this makes you happier, their second major wasn’t a fluke
2019-03-12 22:18
#114
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Russia Men))) 
Gambit win dreamhack before major, so..... oh, you has brazilian flag, sorry.
2019-03-13 12:36
#88
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Croatia mds818 
the sad truth about liquid
2019-03-12 21:51
Lmao ppl judging ence by online mdl games that they dont give a fuck about :D Just wait AT LEAST until blast pro....
2019-03-12 20:59
#7
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Korea SpO_oK 
Flag checks out
2019-03-12 21:00
haven't seen korean teams in major legends stage
2019-03-12 21:01
#14
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Korea SpO_oK 
I know, but flag checks out
2019-03-12 21:03
Flag does check out stop being butthurt, national proud os nothing bad
2019-03-12 21:03
I want to see blast sao paulo and slsr ileague s7 before jumping to any conclusions. Ence has played online like shit always. But we'll see.
2019-03-12 21:17
Of course do we have to wait for future lans to draw a conclusion, all I'm saying is that your flag checks out for your favorite team, and that's not a bad thing, just a fact. People will discredit your arguments though with that exact argument, that you defend them only bceause of your nationality
2019-03-12 21:21
Yeah, I somehow got the impression that you were against #4 for some reason.
2019-03-12 21:24
I was against you getting personal for him saying flag checks out. It doesn't matter what nationality he has, and you pointing out his Korean heritage was just unnecessary
2019-03-12 21:27
It was the other guy, not me, but I get the point.
2019-03-12 21:29
aaah shoot, I saw two finnish flags and thought you were the same sorry.
2019-03-12 21:40
its cool, your point is still valid
2019-03-12 23:14
#10
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Brazil Desteriction 
Flag really does check out
2019-03-12 21:01
#20
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Poland SebaRost 
Same with VP. Look how they played vs FaZe.
2019-03-12 21:06
#36
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Switzerland Tang1 
FaZe isn't really amazing, idk why VP is so inconsistent, if they keep doing this shit they will not get invites anymore and all their games will be online.
2019-03-12 21:16
#56
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Poland SebaRost 
I know FaZe isnt amazing but VP played like just other team, when you compare them to what they playing in MDL. I still hope that Polish scene will come back, just like G2 with kennyS.
2019-03-12 21:29
#64
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Switzerland Tang1 
I have high hopes for G2 now that they kicked botyy for GODmanek. As for VP i think they can be TOP10 again if they stop throwing online matches, like wtf is that : hltv.org/matches/2331268/virtuspro-vs-ex.. hltv.org/matches/2331703/virtuspro-vs-sp.. hltv.org/matches/2330655/expert-vs-virtu.. hltv.org/matches/2329597/x-kom-vs-virtus.. Idk wtf they are thinking, they seriously need to grind.
2019-03-12 21:35
#66
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Poland SebaRost 
It seems like in MDL they play like they would play fucking mm. But i have a great hope. G2 finally got rid of botyy so i hope they will play well.
2019-03-12 21:36
#70
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Switzerland Tang1 
idk why they play MDL if they don't play seriously but Vp is Vp. G2 is gonna get TOP5 this year, on paper the team is ultra skilleed, it all depends on if shox can be a decent IGL, tricky part.
2019-03-12 21:38
#71
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Poland SebaRost 
They want to keep in MDL to another season because in next u can qualifie for EPL.
2019-03-12 21:39
#76
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Switzerland Tang1 
Yeah but it will be difficult, i was expecting TOAo to be better than that tbh : hltv.org/stats/players/matches/11278/TOA.. :/ poland cs need a good IGL teh ez TOP10 m8.
2019-03-12 21:41
#82
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Poland SebaRost 
-TOAO +TaZ But its impossible so -TOAO +NEO
2019-03-12 21:49
#84
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Switzerland Tang1 
I think both are too old, that's the probleme :/. Still better than TOAO but still very meh.
2019-03-12 21:50
#86
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Poland SebaRost 
To old? They are experienced, thats great.
2019-03-12 21:50
#89
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Switzerland Tang1 
both couldn't make vp works for years, they are not good individually and will just have bad games against good oposition :/. Also they are likely to retire in a near futur. i was hoping furlan would be the succesor of thoses twobut he doesn't want to IGL apparently :/.
2019-03-12 21:53
They only get invited tier3-4 garbage events and they will get invited there no matter how shit they are since they have a big name(the org at least) and fans
2019-03-12 21:49
#87
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Switzerland Tang1 
sad but true, i really hope they can get back to form tho, they have some good players imo
2019-03-12 21:51
#77
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Blast pro is mostly bo1s so its kinda random
2019-03-12 21:43
#177
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Finland Tusku 
not jumping to early conclusions in 2019 LUL
2019-03-13 21:04
Immortals ENCE
2019-03-12 21:00
#12
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Brazil Desteriction 
yea I might agree with immortals tbh
2019-03-12 21:01
#6
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Poland Banzanic 
g2
2019-03-12 21:00
#9
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Denmark blue_sheep 
+1
2019-03-12 21:00
IMT Gambit c9 coL BIG QBF
2019-03-12 21:04
#19
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Brazil Desteriction 
BIG played decent in Cologne as well so I’m not sure about a fluke
2019-03-12 21:06
the BUG BIG not smooya BIG
2019-03-12 21:10
BUG was not fluke, just cheating
2019-03-13 20:52
MiBR SK LG Immortals Furia ( wasted spot ) 100Thieves ( disbanded b4 the major ) Bra16-0zil
2019-03-12 21:05
#21
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Brazil Desteriction 
MIBR xD mad hater Btw technically speaking MIBR never won a major, LG and SK did
2019-03-12 21:07
Winning against renegades is he fluke that he’s mentioning, I think
2019-03-12 21:37
#139
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World Tenshi_R 
u forgot renegades
2019-03-13 19:14
IDK how ence fans can even argue it wasn't fluke, ofc it was fluke much like C9 winning major was fluke... That said both deserved their result as they beat good teams, sometimes you have good run like this even if your level would be lower usually :), we see it in other tournaments too, like North beating astralis in final, MSL being MVP...
2019-03-12 21:09
#24
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Finland no_man 
"IDK how ence fans can even argue it wasn't fluke" "That said both deserved their result as they beat good teams" what the fuck
2019-03-12 21:09
Overperformance making many comebacks, opponents not playing their best, clearly it was just a fluke but if you manage to win the games it is still deserved.
2019-03-12 21:14
navi was actually overperforming on semifinal
2019-03-13 20:54
in that mirage deciding map s1mple had to carry alone... if flamie or electronic did any shit ez win na'vi
2019-03-13 20:59
#214
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Finland Tusku 
it was a fluke, yes, but ence didnt really overperform, everyone else just underperformed
2019-03-13 21:55
Well I feel they overperformed in a sense that they somehow made all those comebacks that they pretty much needed to stay in event, maybe it is wrong to say over performance about that still but at very least all those comebacks made it feel like miracle run rather than something you could trust in.
2019-03-13 22:00
#224
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Finland Tusku 
the train match vs big was super lucky for ence, (imo the nuttiest of them all) inferno vs liquid was liquid forgetting how to play counter-strike upon reaching map point, train vs navi was ence just showing theyre actually a really good train team, mirage vs navi was admittedly an overperfomance on ct-side(in contrast to that they really underperformed the t-side tho)
2019-03-13 22:06
#38
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Switzerland Tang1 
Read again he has a point tho, even if time will tell.
2019-03-12 21:17
I see your point but I think we need to see blast sao paulo and slsr ileague s7 before jumping to any conclusions. Even as an Ence fan I would always bet against them in online matches because they often play like shit online. It was a bit of a fluke no matter what but I don't think they'll fall out of top10.
2019-03-12 21:19
I am not saying they can't have good events. But just so easy to feel when watching major they just had too many really great comebacks to even allow their run, bit tough to see it anything less than it being at least a bit lucky for them even if surely they still needed to complete those comebacks and they have my respect for managing to do that in such important games. I wouldn't also judge these online games too harshly tbh. It is just so different team who has focus on lans etc. playing vs teams and players who have only had focus to online seaons and their individual play, it is not even playing field at all... Also good to remember ENCE just had break last week so doubt they are back at their best level. However as in major it seemed they had some issues with some maps I am actually bit worried if they manage to fix their issues before next events.
2019-03-12 21:33
At this point I still think they need more experience in top events to perform consistently. They have 4 players that haven't competed in more than couple big events. I think they really have potential to be a top 3 contender in the future if they keep improving.
2019-03-12 23:16
#219
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Finland Tusku 
bet 730 on astralis so i would be less tilted after the final, didnt really help tho
2019-03-13 21:57
#23
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Finland no_man 
astralis
2019-03-12 21:09
#26
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Brazil Desteriction 
Bad bait
2019-03-12 21:10
#28
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Finland no_man 
ence will win next major 100%, astralis wont replicate this run
2019-03-12 21:11
Even this time it was so close Ence would have won. Astralis luckers.
2019-03-12 21:20
Pls stop discrediting gambit and c9, they both deserve their major title
2019-03-12 21:11
+999 Poop clan CHOCO so much there tho 15-11 to 19-22 rip
2019-03-12 21:13
Calling it a fluke is not the same as saying they didnt deserve ir or discrediting them in anyway. Its just saying they weren't the favorite and it properly only happen 1/10 times
2019-03-12 22:26
#220
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Finland Tusku 
+1
2019-03-13 21:58
SK/LG 😎😎😎😎
2019-03-12 21:12
Why you alone sunglass in this thread men😎😎😎😎
2019-03-12 23:18
idk😎😎😎😎
2019-03-13 05:59
#32
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Lithuania andy_ 
LDLC must be on this list.
2019-03-12 21:13
#33
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Lithuania andy_ 
and 100thieves as well. Never played an official match, and got the major stickers ROFL
2019-03-12 21:13
#42
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Switzerland Tang1 
It wasn't a fluke, the team was dead af after that and they disbanded.
2019-03-12 21:18
#46
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Lithuania andy_ 
it kind of was. Fnatic should've won that quarter, no fucking doubt
2019-03-12 21:23
#54
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Switzerland Tang1 
They were down 13-2, without that boost they would have lost. LDLC used a shitty boost too but i worked 2 rounds having vision on one zone not 14 with an auto watching the whole map. Should have replayed the match at best, but you can't blame LDLC for fnatic decision.
2019-03-12 21:26
#61
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Lithuania andy_ 
imo fnatic was forced to make it
2019-03-12 21:33
#67
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Switzerland Tang1 
Nah it was their decision to calm down the community, LDLC was okay to replay the match anyway.
2019-03-12 21:36
+MIBR soon
2019-03-12 21:14
#39
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Astralis
2019-03-12 21:17
#44
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Denmark blue_sheep 
Ence for sure was a major fluke.
2019-03-12 21:20
#75
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
For sure? Based on what?
2019-03-12 21:41
immortals, liquid (cologne 2016)
2019-03-12 21:24
#49
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Germany Neckarstadion 
ence fluke but deserved finals. Better team on the days they played.
2019-03-12 21:24
2013 fnatic
2019-03-12 21:24
#52
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Finland Alko^ 
LG
2019-03-12 21:25
#53
Trashhero | 
Sweden ZAE^ 
Astralis
2019-03-12 21:25
Ence will only get better. You better accept that they top MIBR in the rankings, because that will not change. Strongest contender to take astralis position in the long run, knowing how much they mean to Finland. They can easily create a similar setup as Astralis, going full pro, instead of being overpaid casual players like 99% of CS.GO "pro's". Their mental strength is very good, which is apparent from their lack of tilting in the major, where most teams would already be waving the white flag.
2019-03-12 21:30
#62
MSL | 
Europe lgbtzera 
captain obvious
2019-03-12 21:33
You forgot Immortals
2019-03-12 21:38
#72
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Sweden swediztann3 
Its not a fluke all teams are shit except astralis. Any top50 team can rekt botliquid aka top2
2019-03-12 21:40
#74
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Ence not fluke
2019-03-12 21:41
#78
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Europe LowAlching 
-gambit -qbf
2019-03-12 21:44
There are no flukes teams just were good at the time
2019-03-12 21:45
Only Cloud9's and ENCE's run were legit tbh(and Gambit a little bit maybe)
2019-03-12 21:45
Fnatic in 2013 Still haven't accepted it
2019-03-12 21:46
#121
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Turkey KOKSALTARES 
godwalk ez major
2019-03-13 12:46
#91
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Other bergkvisten 
+1
2019-03-12 22:18
#94
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United Kingdom DDD_22 
why u call hard work and preparation just a fluke?
2019-03-12 22:21
ence tier 3 team again? everyone expected this except fanboys.
2019-03-12 23:17
Liquid 2016 flukes Where?
2019-03-13 06:13
#108
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Finland Taynz 
How ence is fluke?
2019-03-13 06:23
2019 major was made to be impossible to make a fluke run because of ranking and bo3's.
2019-03-13 12:39
Why ENCE is fluke? Did they lose any game after the major?
2019-03-13 12:50
Daamn i just checked, its very sad how many losses they have against a shitty teams after the major.
2019-03-13 12:53
wait for atleast blast pro and starseries and if ur watching those mdl matches, they have forfeited 3 of them and won 4 lost 2
2019-03-13 19:19
#142
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Other Skyw4Ikerr 
irrelevant anyways,they'll bomb out instantly. They think they became something just because they got to the major finals because of augs. And also forfeiting t2 tournaments LMAO
2019-03-13 19:16
that might be true on blast pro because bo1s but in starseries they will do fine i think
2019-03-13 19:17
#145
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Other Skyw4Ikerr 
Hopefully they get sunny
2019-03-13 19:18
2019-03-13 19:20
#129
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Denmark Zorrondo 
every br team
2019-03-13 12:55
#134
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Slovakia SamuelS 
cry
2019-03-13 17:59
I wouldn't say Cloud9. The talent & experience they all had was pretty exceptional. Motivation was the issue that caused problems that saw them dismantle. It's a shame that they weren't able to keep them together for the next major. Had they been able to just have Skadoodle step down and replaced him, it would have been fun to see what the results. To much team hopping imo. Nobody wants to give things time anymore...
2019-03-13 18:03
1 fnatic 2013 2 gambit 3 c9
2019-03-13 19:15
Hot tf fnatic 2013 fluke ? Noce b8 2/8
2019-03-13 19:16
Did nothing before or after the tournament = fluke
2019-03-13 19:21
After did norhing ? How bout 2014-2016 first half till they kick pronax 5/8 for b8in me
2019-03-13 19:23
Dropped in quarters of next major after losing easily to lgb they never won another tournament after Biggest major fluke easily
2019-03-13 22:44
Ever heard of upsets and hard work ?
2019-03-13 19:15
#146
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World Tenshi_R 
LDLC, they had to lose against fnatic on overpass
2019-03-13 19:18
Major shows how well you prepare.
2019-03-13 19:20
#150
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
lol ENCE wasn't a fluke. They just performed really well, it wasn't because suddenly everyone choked or they abused a bug or anything, they won Bo3's against good teams fair and square. CoL was a fluke because they had BO1's against some shit teams, can't happen with the new system same goes for the other teams listed ENCE had to face both the then number 3 and 2 teams in the world in a bo3. BTW you can add BuG clan to that list as well, they only reached krakow top 8 because inferno and jump bug.
2019-03-13 19:22
#152
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
What does it matter? Flukes happen in every sport, its literally the stuff that keeps it exciting. :)
2019-03-13 19:24
how can ENCE be called a fluke? they did not win by mistake or bullshit reason, they were just better than their opponents.
2019-03-13 20:58
#200
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United States hellboy^ 
Like all the other teams mentioned by this dude, actually
2019-03-13 21:37
first of all i dont see c9 as a fluke aswell but still, its not like ence had an easy way to the finals, they went from 0-2, to 2nd place in a major, grinded the way up against top teams. not against trash teams like winstrike or some non tier 1 in playoffs. haters gonna hate, im a kind off a liquid fan but still, ence did an incredible job and everyone should just give them hugh respect... all i can say is fck pick'em. this major was one of the best ever played.
2019-03-13 22:32
#260
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United States hellboy^ 
I'm a Team Liquid fan ever since they joined the Counter-Strike scene. I was a little sad when they lost, but this is nothing comparing to what I was doing after all the grand finals we lost to Astralis. It's always cool to see some underdogs doing really good Vs the best teams in the world. I didn't get a Diamond Coin 'cause I put Liquid over Astralis in the final, I didn't care about the coin at all. Flukes and upsets is a common thing nowadays, It's way easier for the tier 1 teams to play against each other and when it comes to playing against some teams for the first time it's way harder, individually everyone is good at this level, the underdog teams often come up with some fresh playstyles and strats, that's why TL lost, it was a hard bracket for us, I'd rather face Astralis in the quarters/semis.
2019-03-13 23:37
in any case, this is the beauty of sports in general and Esport particularly. i really love those situations, when the underdogs prevail in such a great way, upper handing they top teams. feels great to be part of this era.
2019-03-14 00:04
#299
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Denmark blue_sheep 
nah. it was a fluke
2019-03-15 00:36
#307
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
C9 was better than every1 single team from top5 at that moment lol. Just 20iq kids on hltv thinks they smart.
2019-03-15 19:38
#198
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United States hellboy^ 
At least C9 proved themselves before winning the major by winning an ESL tournament against SK in the final, taking home around ~200k$. I say that even though I hate c9's fanbase. In my opinion it wasn't a fluke, they were capable of beating all these teams.
2019-03-13 21:35
u r delusional
2019-03-13 22:09
#228
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Lithuania Tocha 
dont forget Immortals
2019-03-13 22:21
sk c9 gambit
2019-03-13 22:40
#244
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Switzerland Tiiger 
+1
2019-03-13 22:46
#249
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Sweden Stockw0w 
BUG Immortals FlipSid3
2019-03-13 22:50
#253
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Ukraine beazztov 
Immortals
2019-03-13 22:51
sk won two majors when no one else was playing csgo and you have the guts to talk about flukes lmao
2019-03-13 23:01
how was C9 a fluke? explain?
2019-03-13 23:05
nasty thread. nasty words from ppl here. #peace
2019-03-13 23:16
#266
rain | 
New Zealand flux1 
ence and c9 werent flukes they showed that they deserved it
2019-03-14 07:20
#282
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Lithuania andy_ 
this. lol
2019-03-14 22:24
#295
rain | 
New Zealand flux1 
ence new c9 confirmed
2019-03-15 00:15
#296
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Lithuania andy_ 
Huh?
2019-03-15 00:16
#267
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Finland Veko666 
gambit= Zeus wanted to come back to navi and lift the major trophy again with them. Cloud9= Skadoodles only dream was to win major. stew=wanted to be with "veterans" and win tournaments with mibr. then CoL and their run was lucky. qbf they were lucky too ENCE they've won couple good tournaments and they've beat good teams and played well against them.
2019-03-14 07:20
#269
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Dominican Republic fernandie 
Oh well, what can I say, unlucky for ENCE
2019-03-14 12:53
Gambit was no fluke, team was looking really good leading up to the major mibr won a major when both olof and guardian were injured, now that was a fluke
2019-03-14 15:25
#287
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United States litdabber21 
immortals as well
2019-03-14 22:37
#294
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United States jay_320 
Gambit is very clearly the biggest fluke in major history. The only objective way to measure this is difference in ranking between the two teams going into the major. C9 would be the second biggest fluke. If Ence had won they would have been the second biggest fluke. If Ence the 17th ranked team going into the major beat Astralis then that would have been HUGE. Gambit style huge. In context the fifth ranked team beating the first ranked team isn't even that huge an upset. But Ence didn't win the major so they don't even get the honor of being called a fluke. And it is an honor dummies. If Windigo wins the next major and Bubbles is the MVP it will be because of an outstanding performance and it will be totally deserved. YOU. HAVE. TO. PLAY. THE. GAME. If you disagree with my methodology then you hate America that's cool. Sorry we gave you the best map 3 in a major finals ever.
2019-03-14 22:55
#297
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
SK m16r
2019-03-15 00:21
Luminosity
2019-03-15 17:15
#306
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Oh, you are right =]
2019-03-15 19:37
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