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MIBR just not working out
United Kingdom sufyy 
Removing 2 Americans and becoming a full Brazilian team, yet still bad results, i know all the Brazilian fans gonna hate.
2019-03-14 16:36
#1
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
TACO .. Worst idea ever of leaving Liquid ..
2019-03-14 16:39
not really, i think he was holding team liquid back imo
2019-03-14 16:39
#8
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Actually Liquid was really good at that moment with TACO .. and TACO was playing better than now .. I don't think he was holding team back .. But just opinions ..
2019-03-14 16:42
Just unlucko cuz astralis
2019-03-15 11:39
No. In Liquid he was a real support. In MIBR his role is just to create space for coldzera, be a decoy.
2019-03-15 17:19
#65
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United States SilveryoHD 
+1
2019-03-15 19:31
#77
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Brazil dox__ 
this is getting old. You clearly don't pay attention to the game and keep repeating this like it's true.
2019-03-15 19:49
Then why are they underperforming and getting upset by teams like Windigo?
2019-03-16 04:54
#117
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France Swag1 
they went to the semis of the major bruh lmao
2019-03-16 14:24
They went to the semis by beating renegay, i won't count this too much tho
2019-03-16 14:37
And renegades was the only team in the major who beat astralis in a map and took them at their limits and the team that defeated faze and vitality
2019-03-17 23:19
#138
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Brazil dox__ 
My answer was to the one that said TACO is only a decoy at MiBR.
2019-03-17 23:15
+1
2019-03-16 04:29
I think TACO is playing better now than he is on Liquid
2019-03-15 22:57
#130
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Mmm he sucked against Windigo at WESG .. Buuuuuuut Windigo seems really strong and solid, on the other hand ..
2019-03-16 18:15
#118
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Germany Fabbsen 
Actually he was bringing them there. He was ok fragging wise, made important rounds and clutches and was a good support player.
2019-03-16 14:24
Hello ? Liquid is even worse then MIBR right now but sure TACO was the problem lmao...
2019-03-16 14:26
Liquid was 3x better with TACO than now
2019-03-16 18:14
If he didnt want to leave, the org still make the same change bro. They will want stew instead of taco obv but it doesnt works for both side rn
2019-03-15 17:30
#29
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Well at first glance MIBR and Liquid seem to work very well, imho, but after KATOWICE and WESG it seems not that well ..
2019-03-15 18:31
#119
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Germany Fabbsen 
Actually they didn't want stew at first but Immortals made a good offer i guess
2019-03-16 14:25
#74
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Poland SadxBoy 
NO TACO NO BAITZERA NO FNX NO MAJOR
2019-03-15 19:40
#84
Romania jDT 
+1 taco fits perfect in liquid. exactly the support player which liquid missed until then. now they have stewie which is very agressive and pushing a lot... In mibr taco is used not only as support and also as bait most of the times. all the time is last one and he is dominated by cold, fer, fallen..
2019-03-15 22:52
#128
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Aaaand Stew took Twistzz' place, eclipsing him in a bad way, I mean why would you take a player who would do another's player role? Plus Twistzz is mostly doing nothing great right now because of this ..
2019-03-16 18:14
#131
Romania jDT 
twistz and also naf played pretty bad in last period. in conclusion they ruined liquid also
2019-03-16 20:10
Give them 1-2 more events before jumping to conclusions
2019-03-14 16:39
we'll see at sao paulo
2019-03-14 16:40
#10
Petra | 
Netherlands taorus 
i say they dont make it out of the groups
2019-03-14 16:45
#19
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Brazil baldok1 
I'm here, where are they? Still see nothing...
2019-03-15 11:45
#94
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Brazil D1sco 
+1
2019-03-16 01:38
#101
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Brazil jmarcelo 
u obviously dont understand english very well
2019-03-16 04:36
#114
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Brazil baldok1 
actually, you are not fast enough to get the points...
2019-03-16 09:44
1-2 more events > another roster change > give them time > give them 1-2 more events > another roster change mibr infinity loop
2019-03-15 18:50
Lmao so true +1
2019-03-15 19:08
#67
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United States SilveryoHD 
+1
2019-03-15 19:31
but never out of top10 :D what a BAD team they are... WORST TEAM EVER MIBR
2019-03-15 22:50
18 feb 2019 #11. And you should remember how they gain point by winning t3 events like cs_summit, zotac, wesg... wait oooooops
2019-03-16 01:30
yes 1 week, it's hard to keep in top10 without play a single match, and nt bro,
2019-03-16 13:54
one year later and taco is still getting hung out to dry while cold baits feel sad for taco going from liquid to this
2019-03-14 16:40
#7
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Brazil WORLD_CITIZEN 
Everybody got fallen's strats and he doesnt change those
2019-03-14 16:40
agree
2019-03-14 16:50
#42
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Brazil Smartzilian 
because of that they bring back Zews, but it seems Fallen still keeping his mind closed
2019-03-15 18:42
m16r fans still don't realize that cold is the problem
2019-03-14 16:43
#11
allu | 
Brazil ShaDoW_ 
Why? Btw, "m16r top 1" Omegalul kkkkKKKKKKK
2019-03-14 16:48
#51
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Brazil Smartzilian 
nvm Cold isn't the problem. Imo, Fallen is outdated as IGL and player. I'm a big fan of Fallen tough, it's hard to admit it, but he's not the same anymore.
2019-03-15 18:59
#113
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Switzerland mauricee 
name checks out
2019-03-16 07:03
I agree with you. Mibr has a short-term mentality. Any difficult moment and they want to change the line-up. The team was very good with tarik and stewie and getting each time better, but they wanted to change again and seems that is not working. Soon they will to change someone again and the cycle will repeat. Many times the solution is not to change someone and yes training more.
2019-03-14 16:48
+1
2019-03-15 11:31
+1 They were most closed team to beat up astralis. Idk why they decided to recreate dead roster
2019-03-15 11:42
Exactly! The matches between old mibr and astralis were fantastic. YNK would help this team much more. I don't expect mibr will dominate the scene again for a long time.
2019-03-15 14:38
#103
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Brazil jmarcelo 
same... sadly :(
2019-03-16 04:38
+1
2019-03-16 04:36
+1 and before that, the team was literally a machine with Boltz. They won of the most hard tourneys with him. For me, the team was much more solid with boltz instead of with tarik and stew, and instead of taco and felps right now. The real problem is that they just want to be #1 of the world in 1 month LOL.
2019-03-15 17:16
#52
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Brazil Smartzilian 
The problem with Boltz is that he couldn't adapt and improve himself. It was the same problem he had in the past. When you're playing in such a high lvl you can't play every time the same. When other teams realize Boltz's game play he's done. He's also known as a lazy player, since he commit the same mistakes over and over again
2019-03-15 19:03
#66
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Brazil xEduardoxx1 
Look at astralis, they have been playing together for a loooong time, the problem on mibr is that they keep changing the line up and using the same tatics over and over again
2019-03-15 19:31
Astralis improve individually, and overall as a team. This team isn't doing that, the same with navi, no extra time will help this teams. The only player that i can really say that is still performing at the same level as before on MIBR is coldzera, with fer and taco getting a little better.
2019-03-16 14:36
+1 fallen have short term mentality and he is fking closed minded. YNK can't work at 100% and in the same way mibr x astralis games were getting more and more closest.
2019-03-16 04:40
+1 that's actually true...
2019-03-16 14:29
TACO not good enough, even if he secures a good team play he's still bad as a player. They need someone else.
2019-03-15 11:38
+50
2019-03-15 18:36
nope
2019-03-15 18:42
#17
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Turkey tastemycobra 
I think its too early to judge. We will see their true form in Sao Paulo in front of home crowd. If they suck there, disband seems inevitable.
2019-03-15 11:41
+1
2019-03-15 17:18
#24
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Brazil Mentecapto 
even if they suck at Blast it'll still be too soon lol
2019-03-15 17:21
#26
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Turkey tastemycobra 
i am expecting them to try to perform their best.
2019-03-15 17:29
always too soon.
2019-03-15 18:36
#25
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Brazil Mirekz 
lol they're playing with this newlineup for what like 1 or 2 months and already made to the semi finals of a major, that's already better than 99% of the teams in the scene yet ppl still talking shit, i don't think that felps and taco is goin to work but you need to give them time.
2019-03-15 17:27
#28
Bosnia and Herzegovina V3D0 
Hahahah they played with same lineup in whole 2016-17 they’re just not good enough and yes major semi-final was solid run from them but huge fail at wesg they need to stop building around fallen-cold-fee core it’s not working out
2019-03-15 17:31
#30
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India Noobdian1 
+1
2019-03-15 18:31
They played with this lineup for 8 months of 2017 or something like that, are you retard or what?
2019-03-15 18:39
#61
Bosnia and Herzegovina V3D0 
Oh come on they were building around cold-fallen-fer core it’s same shit they swapped players times and times again they all know each other well they should just drop felps and pick up better IGL
2019-03-15 19:23
semi finals of major... big achievement lol. they got the easiest draw of all time.
2019-03-15 18:35
#35
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Brazil Mirekz 
still better than 99% of top teams, Navi and Liquid top 2 and 3 losing to ENCE omegalul
2019-03-15 18:37
ENCE>Windigo
2019-03-15 18:41
#43
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Brazil Smartzilian 
I kinda agree
2019-03-15 18:44
name checks out men 😎
2019-03-15 18:45
#57
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Brazil Mirekz 
ENCE has 8 wins and 9 loses on MDL hltv.org/events/4287/esea-mdl-season-30-..
2019-03-15 19:18
wow, online! :0
2019-03-15 19:22
#62
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Brazil Mirekz 
if they can't even win online how the fuck are they goin to get to lans? the biggest leagues out there have online qualis like ECS and ESL PL
2019-03-15 19:23
They just don’t give a fuck about MDL because tryharding and showing their strats against worse opposition. At online games, xantares top 1 and NRG>Astralis. Go cry on another corner, ENCE>M16r
2019-03-15 21:26
Lmao ENCE peaked HARD at the major with godlike performances. U cant really judge them.... MIBR lost 16-3 to C9 how about that? "still better than 99%" Thats why you guys are the worst fanbase of all world. Always think u are on top and when reality comes on just say excuses like "smoke bug" "luck" "if he did that". Gonna get crushed yet again in front of your home crowd. Can't wait for blast pro.
2019-03-15 18:47
#56
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Brazil Mirekz 
godlike performances nice joke, got completely destroyed at the finals, you said that MIBR got the easiest draw but ENCE themselves lost to HR and Renegades i find it funny that a guy fakeflaggin as brazilian is complaining about other ppl being toxic haha.
2019-03-15 19:16
Im not fakeflaggin doente mental. Im just saying the truth about this WASHED UP team that no one can see. FalleN is not even half the player he was, same for fer. TACO has always been bad. Felps and coldzer astill quality players AND should assemble a new team with talents such as kNgV and kscerato. ENCE was not a team with high expectations like MIBR. AS I SAID BEFORE, they peaked hard during major thats why they reached finals beating Liquid and NaVI. DO u really think that MIBR is great only because they reach semi finals? LMAO. Im not being toxic. I just can't stand the air of superiority brazilians spill of their mouths when talking about MiBR. AKA the team that since the end of 2017 didnt win A SINGLE TIER 1 EVENT.
2019-03-15 19:29
#69
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Brazil Mirekz 
so you're not fakeflaggin you're just a dumb glory hunter, the worst kind of "fans" are plastic fans like you that cheer for w/e team is at the top. also MIBR didn't have high expections either, most ppl thought that they wouldn't even make past groups and in the match against Renegades alot of people picked Renegades to win, even thoorin, so stop with that high expectations bullshit. also i never said that MIBR is great retard, i said that they achieved more than 99% of the other teams in the scene by reaching the semifinals at the major even tho they just got the lineup back together and that's a fact.
2019-03-15 19:36
"got completely destroyed" its not hard to get destroyed by Astralis, you should of known that. 16-0.
2019-03-15 19:30
#71
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Brazil Mirekz 
xD a gloryhunter talking shit, if you actually understand portuguese there's a saying in brazil you basically are "gozando com pau dos outros" haha
2019-03-15 19:37
Very sad to see Brazilian rooting so much against MiBR. I know they are trash but I want them to succed. its easy to root for the best team in the moment and not giving a damn about your country
2019-03-15 23:12
I dont root for Astra i root for faze which is even more depressing than cheering for MiBR. But this country bullshit is the biggest bullshit of bullshits in the history of bullshit.
2019-03-15 23:21
#75
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Brazil xEduardoxx1 
wtfff cold still the best brazilian player, and fer destroyed at this major, the problem is that felps and taco ar playing soo bad that the team got desmotivated
2019-03-15 19:42
Excuses. OMEGALUL
2019-03-15 19:32
ll
2019-03-15 18:36
Im not sure if they can win against Liquid FaZe and ofc Astralis... ENCE also has chance but NiP is just a punchbag.
2019-03-15 18:38
They should get rid of Fer. He is good, but not motivated enough to become better. He probably wouldn't be playing CS.GO at all if it wasn't for the money.
2019-03-15 18:39
#54
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Brazil BAN_ASTRALIS 
It seems that they no longer want to play, do not update and neither study the opponent
2019-03-15 19:08
They need some time to recover, then will see.
2019-03-15 18:39
Ye men, they need to lift some weight.
2019-03-15 18:45
Mibr good team. Problem is not about other teams, problem is Astralis too good. I think everybody beat eachother (except Astralis). Other teams have momentum based playstyle. I believe faze,liquid,navi,mibr,ence etc have same change to beat eachother
2019-03-15 18:45
An opinion agreed upon by most players, but yet many fans try to downplay this in various ways.
2019-03-15 19:39
#95
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
I agree 100% and was going to write a very similar post.
2019-03-16 01:48
#49
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Brazil marcosopora 
maybe, but i think they need more time
2019-03-15 18:52
#50
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Brazil Smartzilian 
I dunno, imo Fallen is playing poorly compared to how good he used to play. Also Felps is not a good for them at all. if this line-up does not work until the end of the year, we'll see an almost disbandment. Cold and Taco will form a new team, I'm pretty sure. Maybe Cold can be the IGL and bring some young BR talents like Kscerato and Yuriih from Furia. They'll need a good AWP, so they can bring KngV or even ArT. As I said, it can happen in the future, not now. I'm considering the worst scenario though.
2019-03-15 18:52
Like Niko, Cold seems to be convinced that the brain is in the wrist. At least their teams showed nothing noteworthy during their time of IGL'ing.
2019-03-17 05:59
#55
felps | 
Brazil pluga 
0/8
2019-03-15 19:10
#58
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Brazil verybaitguy1 
u guys so anoying.. get a life! they barely changed the roster give them time
2019-03-15 19:21
If you ask me, they should kick fallen or at least get a new awper and make fallen only igl, his level is just not there anymore and his calls are outdated, gotta say he is truly a shadow of his former self in every way and i feel like his time has come
2019-03-15 19:22
#70
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
Yeah they are arrogant af don't practice as much as a trash team need to improve.
2019-03-15 19:34
- felps +boltz as igl
2019-03-15 19:39
Classic bait
2019-03-16 06:56
#76
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United States jay_320 
I don't mean to come of as a know it all but I feel like this was really easy to see coming. 1. I mean you bring back two guys that you scorned previously. There are hard feelings buried there. There would have to be. It'd be like Stewie and Tarik coming back to C9. Autimatic would welcome them with open arms but you think he and stewie are ever going to be the best friend asian duo again? Nah 2. Fallen's innovation tactically was the best re-takes in the game. That's been figured out with the ever increasing utility usage in post plant situations. This is compounded by the fact that Fer and Fallen (and some would say even Cold) aren't nearly the fraggers they were a year ago. Age catches up. 3. This team just doesn't have that much firepower. Fer in particular other then like a single tournament a quarter does not put out like he did in 2017. Fallen has.. fallen off a cliff as a top tier AWP. Coldzera is no longer the best player in the world backing up two other top 10 players. He's a top 10 player backing up two top 30 players. These three ingredients just simply don't bode well for this type of lineup. They are out of ideas. Not as fast on the head clicking and probably still have internal problems we don't know about but human nature tells us absolutely exist. Sorry Brazilian fans. Really. I hope some young talent comes up to replace the old guard for you.
2019-03-15 19:46
2. I honestly don't beileve age is a problem in itself, at least not for non elderly people. It just happens that people generally lose motivation for gaming when they age, having new influences in their lives and in SK's maybe being content with their quick run from zeros to heroes both financially and tournament-wise.
2019-03-16 05:11
#116
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United States jay_320 
Absolutely. When I talk about age I generally mean "CS Age". In other words Oskar is 28. But in CS terms he is still pretty young. KennyS is like 23/24. He's an old Ford with 250,000 miles on him in CS terms.
2019-03-16 14:22
#78
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Better than before, I guess. Also, last year, with felps, it didn't work out at first, but they managed to figure it out.
2019-03-15 19:51
#79
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Brazil inv1se 
taco had more freedom in team liquid. mibr are stuck to their old roles and not evolving. truth is that they are collectively sucking right now they need to rethink their approach to the game with less fear of taking the same chances they used to back in the day, every team has them figured out its always same shit if u kill fallen first, if u kill fer first or whoever you kill you know what piece you have taken out of their structure.
2019-03-15 20:30
give it time.
2019-03-15 22:05
#82
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Other khorkalba 
Going back to a lineup that failed and expecting better results... lul. Only positive to take away from this lineup is that Coldzera and Fer seem to be functioning at a very high level again. They really need someone other than Felps though. kNg would've been perfect.
2019-03-15 22:47
Felps was the right fit,SK in 2017 with felps failed because felps didn't want to play with them,thats what fallen said in 1 interview some time ago..
2019-03-17 06:07
I think it's too early to criticize They were always a good team. Hate by mibr is just a matter of not accepting
2019-03-15 22:57
if they dont win somethink next events think they will disband no troll.
2019-03-15 22:59
#89
f0rest | 
Other XPOZ3D 
+kscerato
2019-03-15 23:13
#90
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
If sufyy is saying, that's true
2019-03-15 23:15
#92
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Brazil zVIN1 
mibr just had 1 bad result so far,and it was on wesg in the major they did well,they reached top 3-4, losing to the champions theres a lot of tournments to see if mibr is doing well or not
2019-03-15 23:25
#96
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Brazil paulo7hiago 
i think felps was a bad move
2019-03-16 03:46
They need more time. It's not fair to judge the team yet like that
2019-03-16 04:20
FODA SE A MIBR TBM VAI TOMA NO CU COM ESSA PORRA
2019-03-16 04:28
#104
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Brazil jmarcelo 
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2019-03-16 04:43
#110
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Brazil hugoooo 
hahahahahahahahaha
2019-03-16 05:12
Sometimes we see taco empy bombsites alone as t. When he is on he is mad entry. How often you see cold entrying for jos team? It is retarded to just look at frags to make conclusions about the teams. Both liquid and mibr need time to settle in. It took some time for current astralis to get in form.
2019-03-16 04:47
#106
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Brazil jmarcelo 
I agree that they shouldnt have lost vs Windigo on WESG, but shit happens, and they never seem to do good in any WESG tournaments. I think what really is gonna tell if the team is gonna work out is if they do good at Blast SP. If they go out like they did at Blast Copenhagen (i believe that was the one they went 0-5), then they might want to make some changes, which I dont agree with. I think even if they bomb out of Sao Paulo, they still need to keep the roster the same and work on their strats and comms. They did good at the major, but they got the easiest opponents like in the london major, so I dont use that as an excuse to say they are good again, cause it's just not true. I just hope they can become the team they once were, and rise to the top again; do i think that is happening any time soon? absolutely not, but give them 1-2 months of going to t1 events and I think they will be able to do it. sorry for long read...
2019-03-16 04:49
Give em more time. Be honest though, was windigo justcapitalizing on mistakes or were they actually playing pretty well? I didn't watch
2019-03-16 04:54
#111
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Brazil hugoooo 
Too early to say... calm down. People (read 'kids') in HLTV don't have patience, they always want to rush everything, taking conclusions after NINE MATCHES. In 15 days they will play two more events (BLAST São Paulo and StarSeries S7), after these two lans, then we can start to judge them. Four offline tournaments is a satisfactory number to start taking conclusions.
2019-03-16 05:15
#123
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China LeBronGames 
yeah you can tell they have not been hitting the gym
2019-03-16 14:33
#125
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
MIBR should've kept Stew+Tarik. This SK roster has already reached its peak and I don't see them going beyond that and pushing Astralis. Astralis are too good strat-wise. The only teams that beat them at tier1 tournaments were like FaZe and Na'Vi, its obvious that the only way past them is to overload them with firepower and force your way on site. They should've given the mix lineup until the major
2019-03-16 14:37
#126
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Brazil UKita 
Two tournaments since they got back together and people are talking shit like that. They reached quarter finals on a major losing to champions. If they should disband i guess everyone else but Astralis should do the same.
2019-03-16 14:37
Semifinals man.
2019-03-17 06:04
Stop talking nonsense,its their second tournament since coming back together after not playing together 1 year. 3rd place at the major for their first tournament was pretty impressive, well WESG didnt went well,fnatic and g2 both lost to AGO and Windigo so they are not the only one,give them 2-3 tournaments more and you will see the result.
2019-03-17 06:03
Hey guys big MIBR fan here! 😃 I was looking forward to watch coldzera kick some ass but for some reason i can’t find them on the schedule, Yikes! 😯 There must be a mistake. Anyway, I can’t wait for MIBR to win WESG! 😃
2019-03-17 06:05
#137
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Brazil rickySCE 
dafuq? is 3-4 major a bad result? And at wesg they clearly didn't study windigo and lost beacuse of it... or maybe they did throw it like Fnatic and G2 right after
2019-03-17 06:10
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