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CSGO = P2W?!?!
seang@res | 
Latvia unj_patruck 
I play on a 60hz monitor, i3 2120 and gtx 1060 6gb. (runs cs at about 100-160fps because of bottleneck) Drop about 15-25 kills every game. Switched to my friends 144hz and a better pc (runs cs at 200fps) i dropped from 25-40 kills every game for a week. This means if you spend more money you get better performance? :OOOOOOOOOOO Discuss.
2019-03-15 20:51
and ppl want better graphics etc. the game is fine right now
2019-03-15 20:52
i want better pc and 144hz :) its my dream
2019-03-15 20:54
#8
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Finland toimistabil 
Then buy it. And if you can't afford it do some fucking work.
2019-03-15 20:57
Man, I have school, practice and im 17. During summer I have basketball camps 60% of the summer. I can't have a job. It costs about 600 euros to upgrade my stuff and get a 144hz. Really hard to get it. Poor country man)))
2019-03-15 21:00
#70
D0cC | 
Netherlands JimboR 
rly, just shut ur mouth. I was 16 when I started working and going to school. No excuses. Just work or dont cry
2019-03-15 21:35
+11111
2019-03-15 21:39
bro, my days usually go like this. wake up, go to school till 3 pm, at 5pm i have practice till 8. I have to get home and that takes an hour. Sometimes I go to the weight room after. its the whole school year. During summers I have basketball camps during which I have no way of working. Past 9 years its been like this. I can only get a job this summer because I can't play basketball anymore due to a knee injury.
2019-03-15 22:00
If you really work at it you can make tons of money
2019-03-15 22:05
idk, how it is in na but if you dont have a lot of free time in my country then you will be completely parent reliant. ive also heard stories about mowing your neighbors lawns in NA. those are fairytales over here. maybe in some countryside for an elderly wealthy woman but no.
2019-03-15 22:10
I definitely don't mow laena but I live in the richest na county is the richest na state so.....if you don't have free time how are you able to respond to me so quickly
2019-03-15 22:16
its spring break and 11:20pm in latvia rn
2019-03-15 22:17
work on saturdays/weekend and in holidays. takes more time, but the goal will come closer...soon TM
2019-03-15 23:28
#148
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China maybe_banned 
What's a richest state? NY?
2019-03-16 01:13
Google it
2019-03-16 20:05
#159
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China maybe_banned 
Didn't even know that new Hampshire was a state lol
2019-03-17 04:38
#91
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United States camdavis9 
if you can't play basketball anymore then why are you going to practice? Get a job instead.
2019-03-15 22:08
these guys really think having a job defines who u are :D idiots
2019-03-15 22:14
#132
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United States camdavis9 
I never said that this is about saving up money to get a better setup
2019-03-15 22:48
in latvia you cant legally get a job during a school semester if youre under 18. but i still have to go to therapies for my knee so i can walk without pain after 2 km (1.2 miles) and i had to start driving school which takes up the whole day after regular school so I can get my license for the summer. during the summer ill probably take my 04 corolla and do food delivery which is nice :)))
2019-03-15 22:16
if i even could get a job on half load then id probably get 200 euros after a month.
2019-03-15 22:19
has car, under 18 and brags about not having job and not having enough money to buy shit, damn
2019-03-15 22:20
the car i have is my moms old car, i wouldnt say im bragging. im actually really jealous about all my other friends having jobs.
2019-03-15 22:23
So you have enough time to play cs but not work? lol
2019-03-17 04:48
#142
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Lol everyone can get a job dude, itsno t like some trainings at night will stop u form working
2019-03-15 23:35
#146
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Finland toimistabil 
600€. Let's say you get a job that's 6€/hour(I assume you're neither smart or strong, so you probably can't earn shit). That's just a few weeks of work even after taxes. You've got no excuses.
2019-03-16 01:04
#47
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Denmark Dy_Arceus 
I bought 144 and played great, then got 240 and play even better :D
2019-03-15 21:20
send 144 for 100 euro pls, i have that.
2019-03-15 21:20
#50
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Denmark Dy_Arceus 
Sorry its still brand new benq cost 250 usd :)
2019-03-15 21:21
:( Reply needs to have actual content
2019-03-15 22:03
#109
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Sweden hybbo 
250 usd and 240hz?! Dang, thats cheap
2019-03-15 22:20
#162
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Denmark Dy_Arceus 
no sorry 250 for my 144hz, my 240hz was 550 usd
2019-03-20 02:10
Well, CSGO is just a game. It is okay even if you don't reach global. As long as you don't take CSGO carrier, please don't waste too much time in CSGO. You play CSGO to waste some stress. So keep it that way.
2019-03-15 23:00
if i do something then i try to do my best, im very competitive. i cant play basketball anymore and that was my main source of competition (and fun). im switching to something virtual since i cant even go to the gym normally. If i try to compete ill do everything to be better.
2019-03-15 23:17
you "can't" play basketball and "can't" go to the gym? google "david goggins" stop making excuses for yourself.
2019-03-17 01:15
does not mean that the actual game is p2w
2019-03-15 20:55
#55
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
this stupid thread, every game is p2w by that logic
2019-03-15 21:23
My half life load screens load faster= more time to play= more win. I got to mge on 15 fps 100 hours, i dont think setups matter that much until dmg.
2019-03-15 21:40
how can you play cs at 15 fps?
2019-03-15 22:04
I used to play at 15 fps
2019-03-15 22:06
#110
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
you played powerpoint
2019-03-15 22:21
i had a laptop, i didn't know i could overclock it, and i didn't know lowering settings would make the game run faster, since I was 14, but after i got a desktop i realized I could have been playing at 60. It is simple though, I practice flicks against bots, and can't even see any of my shots during the game, and just hope they hit.
2019-03-16 00:53
yh
2019-03-15 21:24
144hz has always been better than 60hz this isn't something new...
2019-03-15 20:55
This further proves his point then
2019-03-15 20:56
You don't need to pay for a 144hz JUST TO WIN though. Most people are perfectly capable of winning with 60hz monitors.
2019-03-15 21:59
csgo is pay to win because u need to buy esea or faceit premium to play in a cheat free community and actually play with other competitive players.and create and play with teams in online leagues.
2019-03-15 20:57
this
2019-03-15 20:57
+1
2019-03-15 21:03
"pay to have fun"
2019-03-15 21:10
#26
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Latvia Frip! 
You're funny. 50% of faceit premium elo2500 games I have teammates who are toxic or just don't care (don't try)
2019-03-15 21:11
thats why u scrim and play with teams in leagues?
2019-03-15 21:25
"play in a cheat free community" haha he doesnt know
2019-03-15 21:12
i dont know?? even people with private hacks on esea and faceit get banned.
2019-03-15 21:26
yeah they get, after fucking around for a decent amount of time
2019-03-15 21:27
they get banned faster then anything mm overwatch and vac does period.
2019-03-15 21:28
Lol valvo bans faster than a Subaru
2019-03-15 22:07
-1
2019-03-15 22:11
Lol what an idiot. Probably spends 100 dollars a year to get aimbotted in rank c
2019-03-15 22:14
typical from someone who either hacks himself or is to broke to buy a service to actually compete with good players.i bet you only play pug systems because you cant get on actually teams to compete in online leagues. inb4 "i play casually"
2019-03-15 22:17
He is delusional m8, relax Private software that bypass esea or faceit isnt sold for less than a couple hundred a month. Ive seen simple triggerbot only hacks for this plus 1.5g upfront just to buy the slot. Very few ppl are willing to pay that shit
2019-03-15 22:50
Trust me cheating is EZ in esea anyone can paste code in vs 2019. I do play casually I actually have a life and spend my money on things that are real. If you are playing a low effort game to not have fun why even play? Obviously your not very good youve just spent more time than anyone else. Even free cheats can bypass esea, paid or free won't change how bad esea AC is. Obviously you don't know how cheats work or what they are and how many different ways you can load them into programs. Lazy kids who can't code buy cheatd. Anyone can cheat in csgo and not get caught it's just a matter of how much of a tryhard you are. People are only banned by their own discretion of how hard they want to toggle on and what cheats their using. If your cheating in esea your not going to go blatant or spinbot. Most csgo players can't tell someone is cheating without also cheating or having cheats
2019-03-16 22:27
Kid i actually code and i can guarantee you very few ppl in the scene have enough knowledge to "paste"(😂😂🤣) an unsigned driver that unloads itself just so one can inject. Even less to make it so that the AC client cant trace back neither the hack nor the driver. You literally know nothing about what youre talking about and you wrote a fucking wall of text😂😂😂
2019-03-16 23:41
Lol m0nkey. Literally edym. Few people who can do it lots of tryhards who will buy it if it's cheap. Esea AC not very hard to avoid unless your just injecting the textbook way. Writing the DLL to work and avoid detection isn't something g I know how to do but I do code injectors
2019-03-17 00:44
Theres no way to write a dll to avoid injection by esea AC, thats what im saying. The only way not to be detected is by injecting from kernel mode, this means writing a driver thats functional and thats not something most of game hackers can do at all and even then the complexity is just beggining. Consider esea is one of the most invasive ACs theres is on the market(not the cs market, but on the general market): even knowing how to code a driver to inject from, you still have to find the "safe path" of doing so. And everytime you fail, you have to find a way to spoof your HWID, buy a new subscription and try again🤷‍♂️ Esea is no vac dude, you are tripping. Esea hacks are hundreds of dollars a month at the very least and not sold publicly
2019-03-17 02:36
Yes men I understand. But at the same time that doesn't mean esea doesn't have cheaters are that esea bans alot of cheaters. Or that esea is a good service.
2019-03-17 03:39
I mainly play MM (high ping on faceit/too poor to buy esea) and i can say i cant remember the last time i got a cheater. Maybe your trust factor is low and that why you get cheaters more often? i dont know But no, its not P2W
2019-03-15 21:12
maybe you havent played long enough to understand whose cheating or not especially since you only play matchmaking.
2019-03-15 21:24
steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611979947.. I think ive played long enough to spot a cheater.
2019-03-15 21:59
what past cs games have u played?
2019-03-15 22:04
1.6, around 1.5k hours why?
2019-03-16 17:06
#95
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
Go back to reddit
2019-03-15 22:12
oh look the typical hltv shit poster.
2019-03-15 22:14
I didnt pay shit and I havent noticed a cheater in MM for more than a year
2019-03-15 22:21
I find that hard to believe.
2019-03-15 22:32
#7
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
not really p2w just makes it easier & way more fun used to 30 bomb on 50 fps still 30 bombing on 300 fps
2019-03-15 20:57
Pay to make the game easier. Seems like p2w.
2019-03-15 21:11
any fps game will be easier with 144 hz
2019-03-15 21:12
#144
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
yes but if you are good enough you will be good on both low & high fps
2019-03-16 00:17
everyone be trying to bait eachother everywhere in this thread rofl what a fucking buncha cringe retards lmao
2019-03-15 20:57
#13
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
"everyone" includes you
2019-03-15 20:59
#10
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Finland Jodecast 
obviously pretty much in every sport
2019-03-15 20:57
#12
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United States gtmaniacmda 
agreed, everyone should play CS:GO on consoles to ensure everyone has the same frame rate
2019-03-15 20:58
#14
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Germany Kaidixdeh 
And there are controllers which are way better than mouse and keyboard. I mean they have less buttons than a keyboard and it is very stressful on a keyboard. Also, the lower the framerate the more cinematic everything is.
2019-03-15 20:59
THIS. I HAVE XBOX 360 AND I RAPED BOTS IN DEMO.
2019-03-15 21:02
#15
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Europe potatomato 
this is why fps should be capped at 30 , fair for everyone and its more cinematic.
2019-03-15 21:00
this
2019-03-15 21:10
eyes cant see 30, cap at 24 men
2019-03-16 00:16
In counter-strike... Are you fucking serious? 30fps is not accepted in most games on a PC
2019-03-17 04:58
A good pc is a plus but you dont necessarily need it to play well. Just because you got better on a better pc doesn't mean that everyone would. If you can afford a good pc, you should buy one because it can only help you.
2019-03-15 21:00
Well yes, but actually no. I feel like if you play at lvl8 faceit or higher then a lot of people seem to have 144hz and good framerate. Feels like I'm at a disadvantage. But the good thing is that if I go to a local LAN event I get a good pc and 144hz monitor I play a lot better than usual. :)
2019-03-15 21:10
I did also see a difference in my own game when I upgraded both my pc and my monitor (144hz) but the biggest difference was when I got fiber internet. OMG dude, that was like being lifted up from Hell to Heaven by God himself. I started hitting soooo many more shots that I would miss before on my old internet-connection.
2019-03-15 21:14
I got fiber internet and it just removed my issue of getting dc'd every 4th round. It just gets consistent.
2019-03-15 21:17
Dumbest argument ever, do you see hockey players playing without ice skates and a stick or football (not handegg) players playing without shoes? I'm playing CSGO without mouse and keyboard and I'm at a disadvantage, therefore CSGO is P2W.
2019-03-15 21:03
Yes but the equipment doesnt cost 1k. Cant say anything about the mouse and keyboard. I upgraded to a good setup 2 years ago (upgraded from a4tech mouse to zowie fk1, and went to a mechanical keyboard) didnt see a major difference. Best thing was the mechanical keyboard since I need to type a lot. Switched to a lot more expensive pc and monitor I play 3x better.
2019-03-15 21:07
Playing with a shitty setup is like playing hockey with this: i.imgur.com/ACREdfj.png Doable but you're at a disadvantage, it's not p2w. You're stupid if you actually think that.
2019-03-15 21:11
The comparison youre making is if i played on 10 fps and had 16hz monitor. You can play hockey with about 500 budget I imagine.
2019-03-15 21:14
And I can play csgo with a 1500 budget, what even is your argument here. There is no universal "you need to spend X to play on PC" you get what you pay for.
2019-03-15 21:18
my argument is if you pay a lot more you get a significant advantage.
2019-03-15 21:19
Yes, and if you pay a lot more you get an advantage in hockey, you can upgrade from using your bare feet and i.imgur.com/ACREdfj.png as a stick to getting real gear. You actually have to be either trolling or really really stupid.
2019-03-15 21:22
#90
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Sweden Kasidro 
To a certain limit, its not like you can continue to spend and get an advantage. So no it is not p2w but a good setup is to prefer.
2019-03-15 22:08
Right
2019-03-15 21:12
i was dont know this details
2019-03-15 21:16
in fact u can get better score in almost every game that need u to act fast.
2019-03-15 21:12
no
2019-03-15 21:15
Agree I bought awp hyper beast, ak-47 vulcan and m4a4 bullet rain last week and i ranked up immediatelly, my skill is so much better now. Blatant P2W but if you have money good for you.
2019-03-15 21:13
If you buy knife your bullets move to the enemy head. 2kliksphillip tested
2019-03-15 21:15
Thanks for the tip man, gonna buy a knife and than rekt some pros. Really appreciate it
2019-03-15 21:19
dont buy from 3rd party site, gaben dont get money and you dont get p2w. buy on community market.
2019-03-15 21:20
#36
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Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Yes, i was supreme be4 dropped playing this game, if i had better PC - i could hit "global supreme global elite IV". 100% legit info about P2W.
2019-03-15 21:14
i know, lets do riot?
2019-03-15 21:15
#128
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
YOu start, ill support ya :D
2019-03-15 22:43
#42
dycha | 
Poland bard77 
idk i have to play on i3 4120 + igpu, 4gb ram, trash 60hz monitor and im LEM
2019-03-15 21:17
if you will get to high elo on faceit then you will see a significant disadvantage. but your setup is shit i agree.
2019-03-15 21:22
#68
dycha | 
Poland bard77 
50-70fps lowest settings
2019-03-15 21:30
#69
dycha | 
Poland bard77 
faceit 4lvl, i dont play it too much cuz i get less fps
2019-03-15 21:33
I wouldnt too.
2019-03-15 22:01
#44
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Poland FitPolak 
kid I had global on Dual Core in 2014, if you git gud on shitty PC you will be mafakin 10 level faceit epl attender on upgraded
2019-03-15 21:19
i hit global on i3 2120, gtx 650 2015. I peaked at lvl 9 faceit.
2019-03-15 21:24
#51
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
i play on a laptop
2019-03-15 21:22
i tried to.
2019-03-15 21:24
#62
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
im used to it, prolly when i get a good pc i bet u ill get global in a weeks time.
2019-03-15 21:25
what rank are you now and how many frames do you get?
2019-03-15 22:03
#81
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
MGE 150hrs, 40-50 fps,
2019-03-15 22:04
id say a months time atleast.
2019-03-15 22:05
but youll get to lem in 2 weeks probably.
2019-03-15 22:05
#54
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Other flynttt 
the definition of p2w is not that tbh.. u are not winning for giving money for valve.. u just have a better performance in a better pc.. this happens in every pc game..
2019-03-15 21:23
you are certifiably insane for using an i3 in 2019
2019-03-15 21:25
bro, trust me. dealing with bad pc's in in my genes. My brothers played wow during vanilla and tbc, 3 fps on alterac valley. Still completed molten core.
2019-03-15 22:07
if you have better gear you're gonna perform better, whats the surprise? it has always been like that in pretty much every competitive game
2019-03-15 21:27
This is not what "pay to win means". But sure, if you upgrade your equipment from "okay" to "decent", you might perform better.
2019-03-15 21:30
kkkkkkkk
2019-03-15 21:35
#88
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Finland v3tu 
Man csgo is so light game. You can get a system with 200 fps+ min (in smokes) for under 400€. Used office pc with haswell+ i5 cpu and slap an used graphics card on it, gtx 770 or 960 or equivalent. Add a 144hz monitor. 600€ and you are not in any meaningful disadvantage to those who have the best gear available on the market.
2019-03-15 22:10
144 hz costs 300 and i dont have that money mens)))
2019-03-15 22:35
get 100 fps - drop 20 kills. get 250 fps - drop 30 get 300+ - drop 30.... when you have smooth feeling, the game will just be more comfortable
2019-03-15 22:10
#98
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Estonia u3ffe 
get 240hz monitor and stable 300fps and u will feel this game like it supposed to be p.s forgot about stable internet connection
2019-03-15 22:14
#102
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Croatia mds818 
it depends on player's skill, got a friend which played on a toaster(25, 30fps) and he was silver elite/elite master(idk all the silver ranks so) he bought a new pc has 300 stable fps and now he's gn 1/2
2019-03-15 22:16
Not sure if you're trolling. If you are ill just take the bait. There is nothing within the game that you can pay for that will give you a significant advantage within the game. Some players have better setups than others, which does influence how well you're going to be able to play, however, your pc setup has nothing to do with the game of cs itself. Therefore, cs is not p2w.
2019-03-15 22:17
-1
2019-03-15 22:37
+2 //closed
2019-03-15 22:38
i arent think that
2019-03-15 22:39
Yes cuz skins makes you give only hs
2019-03-15 22:18
#112
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Other fo3nixz 
nope.
2019-03-15 22:23
#114
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Sweden FraQQarN 
equipment doesnt matter just mouse and keyboard
2019-03-15 22:25
0/8
2019-03-15 22:39
i'm global elite and level 6 at faceit right now with my 15.6inch 60hz laptop i wonder what would i do with 144hz monitor :/
2019-03-15 22:29
#120
2019-03-15 22:39
havent played mm since i was at global for 2 months straight and decided to switch to faceit and peaked at lvl 9(with 144hz ez) trust me, it makes all the difference.
2019-03-15 22:38
#124
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Korea AlexeS5386 
Dude i got to LE on a 4 year old Macbook pro running 60 fps with 5€ headphones and a mouse form like 2005
2019-03-15 22:40
#125
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Korea AlexeS5386 
From*
2019-03-15 22:41
LE isnt that good
2019-03-15 22:41
#127
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Korea AlexeS5386 
Compared to what i did it with, i'd say its pretty decent. Was playing against SUP-Globals dropping 25+ kills consistently
2019-03-15 22:43
i mean anyways, respect for playing on a macbook
2019-03-15 22:47
#131
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Korea AlexeS5386 
I was literally afraid it would start burning or blow it haha, sounded like a jet engine almost when playing for more than 1 hour straight haha
2019-03-15 22:47
#129
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Germany Merkelistan 
I played on 70 fps for many years. Some time ago I upgraded my PC and i have 300 fps. I'm equally shit.
2019-03-15 22:46
youre gonna see better improvements with a 144hz monitor
2019-03-15 22:56
Everything in life is pay to win son. Wtf there is no cs welfare!
2019-03-15 23:16
#138
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Denmark Xipingu 
Nah. I got global with a 60 hz screen. Maybe if you want faceit level 10 you need a better pc and screen, but tbh if you haven’t got an attempt at a career in mind, it’s not worth giving a shit
2019-03-15 23:21
#140
BnTeT | 
Germany cucKing 
yes it's pay to win if u have more expensive skins you will be better mens))))
2019-03-15 23:31
#141
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Netherlands DEJl 
Upgrade your cpu wtf u doing
2019-03-15 23:33
If CS is p2w why FaZe don't achieved nothing ? LoL #TOTHESTARS
2019-03-16 01:08
#153
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Germany scashxor 
Are you reta*****? Csgo isnt pay to win...Your statement says that every game you need at least a Pc thats not older than 7 years or so is a p2w game...
2019-03-16 23:44
#154
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
people play it with 4:3 lowest grafipc settings and still good. csgo is all but not p2w
2019-03-17 00:18
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