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Anyone From Venezuela?
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India EnfyB 
Can you explain me what's going on in ur country? and How USA is responsible for this? as somewhere i read they're doing the same what did with IraQ to gain control over petroleum as Venezuela has more petroleum than entire Middle East.
2019-03-16 16:22
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Finland trashsports 
Venezuela citizens tired of this dictator Maduro and want to change their corrupted government. Nothing special
2019-03-16 16:24
#3
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India EnfyB 
i heard involvement of US in it as well
2019-03-16 16:33
#5
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Finland trashsports 
No, USA have nothing to do with it
2019-03-16 16:35
#9
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India EnfyB 
They've 😅 They're supporting Guaido who inturn is gonna help US by offering them petroleum etc at cheaper rate they're doing that by making people of Venezuela believe Maduro is evil while Guaido is right choice for them
2019-03-16 16:46
#18
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Canada Rubronegro 
Dumb comment. What should I expect from an Indian
2019-03-16 16:57
#23
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India EnfyB 
maybe you should learn to read what others have to say about the matter then we'll see who's actually Dumb . Wait why 'm i getting triggered by comment of an Canadian? We all know Canada is US's bitch so surely a Canadian will defend US and i thought Canadians are dumb much like many Americans who doesn't even have an Idea about what's going on in the world
2019-03-16 17:05
ouch
2019-03-16 17:11
+1
2019-03-17 05:13
#165
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United States skroobdoober 
No, that's exactly what's happening. US foreign policy as usual. Source: work on Capitol Hill
2019-03-17 17:44
#93
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Italy InSuu 
pffffffffffffffffffffffffff
2019-03-16 20:05
They are interfering as always
2019-03-16 23:19
lol
2019-03-17 04:45
#2
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Poland boltzzon 
socialism stronk lul
2019-03-16 16:25
I'm not from there but from what I gathered they had elections and the guy the US hates won the election but the US gov is pretending the other guy who lost the election is the rightful leader and the other guy is a dictator even though he was elected. So basically the US is trying to put their own guy in so they can control another country. The US is the modern day Rome only much more powerful with a lot more places under their control. Look at every country the US has military bases in and those are all of its colonies. Sorry Europe, you guys were all colonized by the US after WW1 and WW2. Ask yourself why no nations have military bases in the US. And if any nation tried to openly have a base here -- there would be such outrage and resistance it would never happen. A free people do not allow other nations to have military bases in their country. Only nations under the control of another have foreign military stationed in their country.
2019-03-16 16:42
How old are you?
2019-03-16 16:38
39.
2019-03-16 16:41
#77
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Germany Bier 
Kinda sad for you.
2019-03-16 18:53
I'm not sad, and have a good life. I run my own business, have no worries or stresses, and am completely content. Don't feel sad for me my friend :)
2019-03-16 18:57
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Germany Bier 
Ok
2019-03-16 19:18
rekt
2019-03-17 05:41
Since you ask my age I'm assuming you sensed some immaturity or naiveness in my comment. If this is the case could you please point out exactly what was wrong with what I said? Keep in mind my comment is slightly tongue-in-cheek though it's not exactly wrong either.
2019-03-16 16:56
Europe is more than happy to let the U.S. pay the bills for its defense. There is no strategic or economic incentive for any national European army to have any bases in the United States, as they already have the, arguably, strongest army in the world. The fact that you consider Europe colonized suggests that you believe the European countries are being exploited. Financially, at the very least, the situation is objectively the other way around. Furthermore, most European countries in which the U.S. has military bases are NATO members, and hence, from a military perspective, the U.S. army is more kin than alien to many of these nations. Its a intergovernmental organization, where the member states have aligned objectives. Hence, pitting members against each other (by attempting to insult them) suggests pettiness on your behalf.
2019-03-16 17:58
Fair enough. I won't debate you on your conclusions as it is one way of looking at things. Though, I'm not trying to pit anyone against anyone else -- nor was my comment meant as an insult. The main thing I was pointing out is free nations do not allow others to have a foreign military stationed in their country. As far as Europe being a US colony I was just being silly. Of course it's not the same as colonies of the past; but it's been a principle which sovereign nations have lived by for thousands of years -- that another nation can not have its military in their own -- unless they are subjugated or at war. I understand the modern political nature of globalism has seemed to eliminate this reality but there are still many countries that do not have foreign military's on their soil because they see it as a threat and insult to their sovereignty.
2019-03-16 18:21
#8
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India EnfyB 
so basically it's just US who has created such miserable life for entire population of Venezuela for sake of Petroleum. Tbh they're doing the same what East India company did to India 250 years ago they used to appoint leaders for annexed part of nation by making people believe he's right . In turn that leader used to work entirely for East India company rather than working for welfare of people . :/ Well Played US First Iraq then Syria now Venezuela
2019-03-16 16:43
It definitely appears that many of the problems for the people of Venezuela are due to the US sanctions. The US has been using this trick for 170 years starting with when they did it to us in the Southern US after we seceded from the federal union. They sent navy ships to all our major ports and would not allow any trade to enter and then later they literally started burning our cities, towns, crops, and everything they saw to the ground. And for good measure they committed mass murder, raped our women, killed 400k of our black servants and placed us under military rule and law for 15 years. The US gov has had one policy of complete domination and the building of an empire for 170 years and it all began when they conquered us in the Southern States. We know first hand how evil and brutal this system is having experienced the worst of it. 3 months after they conquered us they began their genocide against the native tribes who the founders had made treaties with and the empire building hasn't slowed down since. Don't worry though, it's going to collapse. All empires do.
2019-03-16 16:49
#15
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India EnfyB 
We can just hope but there are for now no Superpower that are actually near to US
2019-03-16 16:56
The US doesn't have an outside enemy to fear so much as its own pride and arrogance. The lust for power knows no bounds and doesn't know when to stop. Plus, there is a reason half the 18+ population in the US doesn't even vote -- we know it's all a scam and the system is beyond corrupt. Most likely the US empire will crumble due to internal strife rather than some outside force.
2019-03-16 17:01
#26
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India EnfyB 
Yep! I completely agree. I believe world will actually become better place after crumbling of American empire
2019-03-16 17:07
+1
2019-03-16 17:09
If american empire crumbles another will rise and become power hungry
2019-03-17 14:55
No, first Chaves, now Maduro, they ruined their own contry on purpose, the goverment are literally killing their own people by starving to death - Holodomor reloaded? Also people who rebel are being shot, soldiers from the Venezuelan army are FLEEING from their own country, it's a goddam dictatorship and you blame the US? legit braindead tl:dr venezuela = proof that socialism doesnt work
2019-03-16 16:56
Sanctions hurt all nations that have them imposed. I'm no leftist and don't support the Venezuela gov but I also don't support nations getting in other's people business. The US gov has no moral authority and can't stand in condemnation of anyone.
2019-03-16 17:03
To bad the US did nothing about Holodomor and was buddies with Stalin. They even had propaganda in American media at the time talking about how great Stalin was and the "rumors" of mass starvation were not true.
2019-03-16 17:06
The only involvement in Venezuela by USA was during Obama's time as president. Even then they did not send many soldiers down there. Obama and many other socialist democrats supported Maduro for his political beliefs. Since Trumps take over tho, he has cut all ties with Venezuela because of their human rights violation. The fact of the matter is that the US did put this shit guy into power. However, this was all because of the corrupt politicians at the top. Not the fault of the people. You cant blame the US tho, they didnt find this guy and put him into power. They just supported him verbally. They did not send any troops there
2019-03-16 17:40
It's so hard to know what to believe when it comes to international politics. I don't trust any of the information I hear from any side. You could be right though.
2019-03-16 17:42
Well I suggest you go to your government website. Cia.gov fbi.gov and read some declassified documents. You would be amazed whaat your country did
2019-03-16 19:03
The leaders don't ruin a country, the people do. Every south American and central American country is garbage. So they all have terrible leaders? The people are trash and when they come to America they remain trash.
2019-03-17 05:16
+1 People get the government they deserve. Governments in almost all cases are a reflection of the people they rule over. Although, calling people trash might be bit much.
2019-03-17 05:50
Just...no Have u heard of communism? How people starve to death because of the dictatorship? That's exactly what's happening, i live in Brazil, every single state in Brazil has people from Venezuela because they are leaving their country, a lot of countries sent FOOD to Venezuela, but their president blocked the roads, some trucks got through and the food was tossed away by the goverment agents. Also a truck with food was chased by military forces and pretty much shot down (literally). People have no food, cats and dogs from the street no longer exist because they became dinner. The US pretty much said they aren't buying that bullshit and the guy better stop doing these f'd up things.
2019-03-16 16:51
Did you steal these talking points from a mainstream media outlet teleprompter?
2019-03-16 16:54
hot take
2019-03-16 17:15
#85
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Venezuela 643 
Yeah, you seem to have a pretty good notion regarding venezuelan people - and even USA's foreign policy modus operandi, which is hard to find nowadays. Just a correction: the guy who proclame himself the interin president is not the one who lost the election to Maduro. In fact, before all this shitstorm began, only 5% of the venezuelan people knew him; even now, with all the media and a few puppet leaders bashing on Maduro, most of the people still recognize him as their president.
2019-03-16 19:19
As far as I know the guy that the US is backing was actually educated in the US as well. It's funny how so many of these "leaders" around the world were "educated" in US Universities.
2019-03-17 16:17
#166
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Venezuela 643 
People see this and still prefere to think it's all coincidence. USA has invaded 42 countries since its foundation, but hey, they probably do care about human rights on Venezuela. Nothing to do with their nationalized oil :)
2019-03-17 18:07
Of course it's not about oil. World leaders are all upstanding moral people who only want the best for their slaves...I mean citizens -- whom they rule...I mean...govern...no, I mean serve. ;)
2019-03-17 18:14
#169
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Venezuela 643 
+1
2019-03-17 18:16
Thanks for the correction. I admit my knowledge of the subject is very limited since I haven't personally researched it. I've listened to others speak about it from various perspectives and formed my own conclusions. I was not aware that the guy the US is backing wasn't even part of the election. That is super suspicious. As far as understanding the modus operandi of the US gov. read #11 I'm a student of American history for the past 20 years of my life having spent thousands of hours pouring through books and research and going back to the source material. The US has for 170 years been in full-fledged empire building. It began with what is known as the American Civil War (though we in the South call it "the war of northern/yankee aggression" or "the war for Southern independence" -- since they invaded us after we declared our independence from the US. Today they tell people we fought for slavery to hide the truth that the exact opposite is true). My Southern ancestors saw what the US government was seeking to do and therefore separated and fought the bloodiest war in our history because they understood how important it was to stop this juggernaut that had grown out of control. We lost -- the rest is history. I'm proud my people fought it though -- the South stands guiltless in what the US has become. PS. This is why I don't use the US flag. I don't believe in flying the banner of the people who oppressed, murdered, raped, and destroyed my people.
2019-03-17 18:39
#171
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Venezuela 643 
Nice to hear different parts of a given situation. I, for exemple, being a nationalist - or at least a "let our country mind our own business" kind of guy - always saw Hamilton and Lincoln as good influences to what a country should do in order to acquire its independence/sovereignty. Specially Hamilton focusing on national development through protectionism and national impulse in detriment of the free market incentivaded by England
2019-03-17 18:49
I would say this is the case because victors write the history. We in the South have never been allowed to tell our side of the story to the world. 99.9% of people only get the Yankee mythology of what happen so they appear the good guys -- and we the bad, wicked, racist slave owners. The Jeffersonian's were the good guys in American history and the South was Jeffersonian -- the north Hamiltonian. Jeffersonianism is based on small government, limited powers, and strict construction of the Constitution -- Hamiltonianism is based on large govenrment, unlimited powers, and loose interpretation of the Constitution which leads to empire. In the 1820's men of the north started to rewrite and retell the the story of American history. The north began to be propagandized that the States were never sovereign but the whole people (the federal government) was the true sovereign and the States its subjects. This is the exact opposite of the truth. The South never adopted this view but always held onto what the founders had said and did and it was ingrained into their culture and education. They saw their States as being where their ultimate loyalty lied (though they loved the Union and put up with abuse for 40 years before finally saying enough and seceding) and the Union was a creature of the sovereign States in convention -- which it is. This is a complex issue which in no way could be hashed out here since it takes many volumes to really start understanding the complexities of the situation and its causes and results. Allow me to share some links to some excellent lectures on this issue. It's a playlist on my YouTube channel I personally put together that tells the true history of America in the 1800's. youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_DhMZTtV7D9Q.. youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_DhMZTtV7D_x.. Here's all my playlists if you care to browse them. youtube.com/user/Imucarmen/playlists PS. Read a book called "Crimes of the Civil War, and Curse of the Funding System" by Henry Clay Dean published in 1868. He explains very well the take over which took place and how it was all financed and perpetrated by banks and money interests. And he was a northerner who was put in jail for 2 years during the war for speaking out against what was taking place.
2019-03-17 19:20
I dont know if youre baiting or not, but if you don't know, the "guy" USA doesnt want in power won the elections in 1999. Hugo chavez was his name. He ruled for 14 years, then he died I guess, and left the country to the vice president, which was Maduro. He has been ruling since then.. So I think its way more likely rhat dictatorship and socialism ruined venezuela, than the USA trying to do something 20 years later after "losing the influence" over venezuela, dont you think?
2019-03-17 16:10
It's possible that many of the problems for Venezuela have come from bad government, and I've confessed multiple times my ignorance on the situation overall. I just know that sanctions are used by larger and more powerful nations to crush smaller ones. Back in the 90's the US placed sanctions on Iraq and it was estimated over 500k Iraqi children died directly due to US sanctions forbidding medicines and other needs imports to enter the country. And that's only one example. There are dozens and dozens of examples of the US using this method to weaken a opponent. Let's be honest though -- do any of us have firsthand knowledge of what is really going on? No. We are all getting our info about Venezuela from third party sources, ie. the media -- who can't be trusted. Anyone who does trust the media is foolish imo.
2019-03-17 16:25
Dude, brazil is literally right next to venezuela. The population in there says everything we need to know all the time. There are thousands of youtube videos, or friends/relatives that live in there. Socialism ruined venezuela. It is that simple. They dont have papers to wipe their asses. When some venezuelan football teams come play here in brazil they need to buy a lot of papers to wipe their asses to bring back home. And funny enough the president and people from his party have everything they need. In this case theres no embargo. And supposing the usa super embargoed them(which is true to some extent, but not as much as youre claiming) dont you think they should be able to at least produce some paper? If they are not able to do this dont you think its time to rethink in abandoning their ideologies and power? Letting the people living in misery is better than sell oil to usa? (which they sell anyway. The usa is the biggest buyer of venezuelan oil). So like I said, plain and simple, its the governments fault. Leftism ruined venezuela.
2019-03-17 16:36
I'm no leftist and hate all forms of collectivism. But to ignore sanctions as a cause of a nations problems is in error. Also, just living near somewhere doesn't give you firsthand knowledge of the true underlying issues of a matter. For instance, something could happen to your neighbor who lives next door and you hear about it. Given the fact you weren't there all your info is second and third hand info and there is no way for you to know the truth since you were not there. Being close to something doesn't mean you have firsthand info. I don't doubt the people are suffering in Venezuela but my point is there are possibly deep and hidden causes as to the truth of why that is. There is one thing for sure when dealing with politics and international happenings -- many secret meetings and agreements take place that we, nor the media have any access to. This is why the media will constantly cite "sources" within the government etc. as being where they got their info. So here we are getting info from someone who got their info from someone who got their talking points and info from someone. There is a chain of command and we little people are so disconnected from the top that to simply latch onto talking points and causes which are given to us is a mistake. The world is much more complex than most realize. People are merely given simple explanations and run around like parrots repeating what they hear. Some may see the results firsthand, but that doesn't mean they have firsthand knowledge of the causes.
2019-03-17 16:47
#164
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Venezuela 643 
Venezuela's HDI is higher than Brazil's. There's this saying that socialism broke Venezuela and that Venezuela was the richest country in SA before Chavez. The second part is actually true, but people don't bare in mind that the inequaty of Venezuela was one the highest, which means the rich were fucking millionaires and the poor were miserable. Since Chavez' arrivel, his social policies made Venezuela a much more "homogêneo" country economy wise. But by focusing only on the social aspect of Venezuela, we get to the main problem of them: lack in diversity relating to production, meaning Venezuela import about 85% of "bens de consumo". So yeah, you can blame Chavez and socialism for their situation and ignore the sanctions USA imposed to them, or you can understand the role Chavez had in reducing poverty, "mortalidade infantil" etc. The only thing he did wrong - and Maduro is also commiting it - is to not develop his national industry.
2019-03-17 17:42
#10
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
Maduro won the election but the election itself was manipulated. In order to become a president in Venezuela your presidential win has to be confirmed by the parliament. Because of the manipulation the Venezuelian parliament has not confirmed his presidency, therefore Maduro is not a rightful president. Juan Guaido is the temporary president confirmed by the parliament, until Maduro is out of power, and until free elections can be estabilished.
2019-03-16 16:48
How can we know for sure if the elections were manipulated? I don't trust elections in any country but often it's hard to prove if they were rigged or not because we little people are so disconnected from the facts and mostly can just get info from third party sources. I'm not saying youre wrong because I haven't studied the situation at all.
2019-03-16 16:52
When the country turns pure garbage and the same president wins the election, we can know for sure the election was not fair
2019-03-16 17:02
That's circumstantial evidence though. As convincing as that may be it's not hard evidence of a rigged election.
2019-03-16 17:07
Lack of hard evidence is a result of oppressive government restricting the free speech. When the shithole that Soviet Union was fell, 97.7% of people voted to keep it alive kek.
2019-03-16 17:09
The Soviets were retards lol *I mean the leaders -- not the people. The people were just caught in a bad situation which they had no control over. Perhaps it's the same for the people of Venezuela but my position is the US needs to mind it's own business. Plus, them meddling in others country is completely unconstitutional and outside of powers granted to the federal government.
2019-03-16 17:13
As retarded as they were, they weren't hit by inflation this big
2019-03-16 17:12
To be fair, I haven't spent any time studying this issue for myself because I don't know what info to trust. I've just listened to some people speak about it from various positions and made my own judgement. I just want the US to stay out of other nations business.
2019-03-16 17:14
I understand that, it's pretty obvious US is playing world police. But as a citizen of country one would say US is meddling in, I'm grateful for that.
2019-03-16 17:21
I don't know much about Ukraine's situation either. Is the US helping you guys keep Russia out?
2019-03-16 17:29
It helped us with getting rid of the russian puppet we had. And US is helping with sanctions against Russia, so it doesn't go full-davay with it's crazy militaristic/imperialistic delirium against us.
2019-03-16 18:13
Thanks for the reply. It's always nice to get a natives perspective on their countries situation.
2019-03-16 18:23
#21
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Canada Rubronegro 
Most people didn't vote for the election but even though as a miracle Maduro had billions of votes plus most of the opposition wasn't allowed to participate or were in jail.
2019-03-16 17:03
But these are reports from mainstream media which I don't trust at all since they are all paid liars. I have no way of knowing if any of this is true.
2019-03-16 17:08
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India EnfyB 
Can be easily manipulated by US it's easy for them
2019-03-16 17:15
Yes it is. There is massive evidence that the US military and later the CIA have for the last 100+ years been solely involved in setting up puppet governments throughout the world. Especially in third world nations. There have been many former military and CIA who have backed this claim. check out this book google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q.. And look up Smedley Butler. He wrote a book after 33 years in the military called "War is a Racket". Here's a quote from it : "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
2019-03-16 17:25
#47
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Canada Rubronegro 
Manipulated? You can take 30 min of your life and search what happened to the opposition. Also, the government nationalized most of the companies inside Venezuela which made the inflation sky rocket Btw there is no free press in Venezuela. The government all the newspaper that weren't controlled by the government. Left wing destroyed South America. Workers party in Brazil , Kirchner in Argentina and chavismo in Venezuela
2019-03-16 17:28
As I've said, I have no way of knowing the truth since I can't access first hand information. In my 39 years on this earth and thousands of hours of conscience study and observance I've learned that people are liars, and especially those in power and in information propagation circles. I'm not saying you are wrong though.
2019-03-16 17:32
Weird. Both under chavez and worker pty in br, their economy grew shittons. And always by coincidence when their economy is going slightly bad for a period, an american backed president comes in the story??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
2019-03-17 14:46
#31
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
actually it is really easy to prove that electons are being manipulated
2019-03-16 17:10
#86
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Venezuela 643 
International observers confirm the election was legal/not manipulated.
2019-03-16 19:21
#100
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
the election itself was illegal, since elections have to be announced at least 6 months before they are being held, thats what the Venezuelan constitution says, elections were announced in january and held in may
2019-03-16 21:25
#101
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Venezuela 643 
International observers confirm the election was legal/not manipulated
2019-03-16 21:31
#104
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
Did you even read what i just typed ? the election was illegal
2019-03-16 22:47
#105
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Venezuela 643 
it was not
2019-03-16 22:49
#106
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
bro if something is against the constitution its illegal
2019-03-16 23:01
#107
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Venezuela 643 
are you seriouly gonna stick to this "constitution" argument? don't you see the situation as a whole?
2019-03-16 23:08
#108
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
how can someone be a president when he wins an election which is illegal
2019-03-16 23:15
#109
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Venezuela 643 
except it wasn't, but of course foreign governments won't recognize a nationalist in front of the #1 oil reserves country
2019-03-16 23:18
#111
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
the constitution is a set of laws and rules which cannot be broken Maduro wipes his ass with it
2019-03-16 23:40
#112
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Venezuela 643 
there were some shady shit happening before he even took actions. He is more than right in doing was he has done
2019-03-17 00:20
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Argentina rawe1337 
"How can we know for sure if the elections were manipulated?" Seems you're a total outsider
2019-03-17 04:46
I am. I've on several occasions admitted my ignorance of the situation.
2019-03-17 05:07
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Argentina rawe1337 
Of course US is involved in all this stuff and have economic interests, but that doesn't remove the fact that Maduro is a dictator who enjoys seeing their people suffering.
2019-03-17 05:09
I hope for the best for the people of Venezuela. I don't trust the US government and think their only interest in helping is because they will get a good deal on the oil. But if it works out to best positive for the people of Venezuela then I guess overall it's good. I definitely don't want another war. I'm highly against them sending in troops. They probably already have CIA in the country stirring up stuff.
2019-03-17 05:26
#30
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
That's how South America works If you aren’t the USA bitch ur people will suffer the consequences My country is a perfect example
2019-03-16 17:09
#35
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India EnfyB 
Now what's going on in Chile?
2019-03-16 17:14
#53
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Almost every natural resource is owned by foreign companies Our water is owned by americans, Spanish guys own the biggest electricity company so they provide it to all of my country Also china owns a great part of our copper Bro USA even owns our freeways so we have to pay for every city we travel and that money goes to them And i could number things like this all the day But for being other countries bitch We are the best or one of the best countries to live in SA
2019-03-16 17:38
#87
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Venezuela 643 
Neoliberalism brother, Pinochet and the Chicago boys fucked your country. Same seems to be happening here in Brazil with our fag, Trump's dick sucker president.
2019-03-16 19:23
#117
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India EnfyB 
is that actually good? i mean they can easily interfere in internal matters of your nation isn't?
2019-03-17 04:40
#167
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Not really But it's like in any neoliberal country Every decision made by our government is to protect those companies and their business But as I said (sadly) that’s what makes us a tier 1 country (inside our region)
2019-03-17 18:11
What happened to you guys? I'm ignorant of this history.
2019-03-16 17:16
#52
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Canada Rubronegro 
Pinochet saving Chile from a communist dictatorship
2019-03-16 17:33
#54
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Nt 20 years after that happened we discovered that USA was behind all that
2019-03-16 17:38
#88
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Brazil Chiron 
Same here manito =/
2019-03-16 19:26
#89
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Gl for the next years cara :c
2019-03-16 19:40
#94
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Italy InSuu 
+1
2019-03-16 20:06
#40
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
do some research fam, venezuela has oil but its heavy low quality oil and since the oil price is so low now it's hard to turn profit after refining it
2019-03-16 17:16
in south america they blame americans for everything bad
2019-03-16 17:19
I'm Venezuelan, living in Chile for the past year. Okay, its not a secret that these 20 years of "revolution" has been a literal hell, specially these past weeks (there was a blackout COUNTRYWIDE for 6 days straight, lootings everywhere, no police, no nothing) So, what is going on? Last year, Maduro called for presidential elections, in these elections he made it impossible for any party associated with the right or opposition to run a candidate, it was only Maduro and a few others that were associated with him. It's important to say that the CNE (the organism in charge of the elections) is strongly and publicly in favor of maduro. So, these elections were not recognized by international entities because there were no international witnesses, or right parties witnesses. There were NO people voting anywhere yet they say 70% of the population voted as #21 said. Needless to say, maduro "won". The National Assembly (only organism NOT controlled by Maduros ppl) said the elections were null and called a void in power (there was no president). Our constitution says that if that happens, the president of the National Assembly has to take charge and call for elections etc. Enter Juan Guaido. The USA has been suporting and counseling him since the beggining, and tho im sure they have a reason to, Oil, Power, money, i really dont care. People is dying every single day and dictatorships dont go away peacefully. We need all the help we can get.
2019-03-16 17:24
#50
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India EnfyB 
cleared most of my confusion thanks
2019-03-16 17:29
I'm a Venezuelan living in Venezuela and this is the most accurate description of what is happening.
2019-03-16 18:11
#95
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Italy InSuu 
nt iraq
2019-03-16 20:07
they are getting rid of their cancer dictator president
2019-03-16 17:29
#57
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United States PsychoLogical 
Venezuela went from the richest Latin American country to now the poorest due to Maduro mismanagement and made himself a dictator and with food and medicine shortages resulting in mass migration of venezuelans which over a million went to colombia. Maduro gets reelected which was declared rigged and illegitimate by the international community which probably was. Then near the end of January came Juan Guaido who declared himself as the Venezuela's legitimate president. Then support came soon after with USA, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, the Bahamas, DR, Haiti, Honduras, Guatemala, and Canada being the first nations to recognize him. USA likely had nothing to do with this at all despite past involvement in LA nation politics in the past. Then Russia, China, and Turkey declared support for Maduro followed by multiple others like Syria, El Salvador, and Iran. Mexico also declared support for Maduro but retracted that decision and went into neutrality. 52-54 nations currently support Guaido while only 22 support Maduro.
2019-03-16 17:50
Does not matter if Mars supported the other guy because Maduro was and elected leader. This new guy is just claiming he's president. That's not a democracy. We are trying to starve the people until they revolt. Maduro has done no crimes so we can't just walk in and kill him but the people can.
2019-03-16 18:05
#61
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United States PsychoLogical 
Maduro has done no crimes? That lie is worse than people saying the Iraq war was reasonable.
2019-03-16 18:09
What crime?
2019-03-16 18:11
Maduro cheated all his elections. He was just appointed by Chavez since the electoral body as well as all other powers are controlled by him, except for the National Assembly which Guaido presides along with the presidence. He did NOT proclaim himself, the constitution says he can take charge and he did. Maduro is criminal he has killed many people in protests and by mismanaging the country and giving no medicines to the public hospitals, there is a genocide happening because of him. Dont talk or defend him if you have no clue
2019-03-16 18:17
All the vids I see the people look pretty darn fat to me. Starving people? Hmm. How do they get all this energy to protest with no food?
2019-03-16 19:12
"All the vids I see" You really gotta be ignorant to judge and say something like that by watching some vids.
2019-03-16 19:56
Should I just listen to random people?
2019-03-16 21:11
#134
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Venezuela cubek 
Well, have you ever seen the ugly part of Dubai? How much of it have you ever seen in the mainstream media? Now, GTFO with your shitty statements and listen to the people who actually live there
2019-03-17 08:11
That's what they get for being such a weak country. The oil will be under our control soon.! BAHHWHAWWWHWAH
2019-03-16 18:03
maybe we are a weak country but that so easy to say, what is a strong country for you?
2019-03-16 18:22
America is pretty strong. All your people keep coming to America illegally with their hands out for free money. We need to hurry and get that wall built to keep the trash out. I really don't get why we take over countries around the world but won't just conquer All of South and Central America. Those are the real enemies of America. Every city they enter they trash it.
2019-03-16 19:14
#121
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Brazil Mentecapto 
hey man I'm a pretty cool guy
2019-03-17 04:45
#70
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Europe LowAlching 
stop botting in runescape ffs
2019-03-16 18:28
#71
autimatic | 
United States nohj 
the only thing Venezuela has to blame is socialism
2019-03-16 18:29
The American sanctions are not helping though.
2019-03-16 19:15
#96
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Italy InSuu 
+1
2019-03-16 20:10
Some facts from a Venezuelan living in Venezuela for the world to KNOW: Guaido did NOT proclaim himself, the last elections(as long as the 585858585 other ones) were illegal and there was a void in power so he can take charge as interim president as he is the president of the National Assembly(Our constitution says so) Maduro is killing our people by not providing the hospitals with supplies, power cuts, basically because he stole the worlds biggest chunk of money a country has EVER received About 6.5million people have left the country because most people cant afford even food, minimum wage is about 5$ per month, the current price of 1 meal outside in a place Maduro and Chavez created and currently finance+arm paramilitary groups to kill people at protests or anything he wants. ALL the army bodies are publicly in support of Maduro which is illegal, and they have said they will NOT betray him, along with all the public institutions/powers The Cuban intelligence is inside ALL the important roles of our country and it is publicly known Basically we are trapped in this shit alone, then the US+59 other democratic countries show support + recognize Guaido and the whole world thinks US is evil(Yeah it is but its our last hope) Guaido has brought hope to our country. Hopefully all this nightmare will be over.(Even if US is behind, people here know it and WANT help from US, around 95%) STOP SAYING MADURO IS LEGITIMATE/GOOD
2019-03-16 18:52
Don't worry, the US can't do anything until they create a false flag attack. Dress up some thugs as soldiers and have them shoot up a crowd and blame Maduro. We never enter a country to help the people, we come to rape the resources.
2019-03-16 19:18
Don't think anyone in his right mind would want his people suffer. I also think that Maduro is a dictator but also i never saw a country prosper after U.S's involevemnt. Why U.S wants to suppor Guaido? Is it just because they think Maduro is dictator? Don't think so. But i can freely tell you that it's all for your petroleum. You're just giving up your independence. It was Maduro now will be US. US is the main reason why your economy got rekt, now they are the helping angels, 2 faced show. Of course when there is someone like Maduro whom known as dictator, its so easy to blame on him.
2019-03-16 20:00
Also i also believe if Guaido becomes legitimate president, your country could take a breath after US sanctions expire in short term. On the other hand, in long term do you really think that it will be okay and you will prosper after US tried so hard to break Maduros and Russias influence just for the glory of satan of course?
2019-03-16 20:11
#118
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India EnfyB 
yea dude i was wondering the same why on Earth US will try to interfere if they're not getting any sort of profit from it
2019-03-17 04:42
#153
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Austria db42 
given the current situation i still think even if the US plans are to milk the country for their own gain, playing world police is prolly still a better plan here than the let them suffer under the rule of maduro, regardless whos evil and who's not theres fucked up shit going on in the country right now
2019-03-17 14:40
Oh, so they will not suffer when US becomes successful? Short-sighted man indeed.
2019-03-17 14:50
#157
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Austria db42 
less than not having basic health aid, no electricity and living on top of an economic depression where you cant even buy a single meal with your monthly loan. ofc they will suffer being americas oil bitch, i even mentioned that in my first sentence, learn to read with context.
2019-03-17 15:08
#91
2019-03-16 20:01
#119
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India EnfyB 
Dude i heard somewhere that China and Russia have back of Maduro? is that true?
2019-03-17 04:43
BUMP! IT took me like 10min to write all that and people have to know the TRUTH Forgot to say that ALL the media in the whole country is controlled by Maduro and if someone live on TV/radio calls Guaido "President" they shut down the channel/put them in jail
2019-03-16 18:54
#97
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Italy InSuu 
u want war
2019-03-16 20:11
#75
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Germany Bier 
Dude they have literally no power rn. So ofc not
2019-03-16 18:50
#103
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
They don't need aid because there is no crisis or empty shelves.
2019-03-16 22:07
#125
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
you should watch Hohn Oliver shows about it. Explain it very well. Their Dictator is crazy.
2019-03-17 05:11
Most countries have corrupt governments, but nothing big is happening in them. The problem is that Venezuelan thieves do not want to share with other thieves, which is why these thieves are angry xD
2019-03-17 14:21
#143
Pimp | 
Brazil kaiknux 
South America learned the hard way that the United States know how poor countries politicians think and abused it over decades. Leftists in the whole continent will hate the US and guess what- they are right doing so. Problem is: they are corrupt, have this concept politicians are some kind of evolved superior human being and think poverty and lack of education is something impossible to change. Venezuela is in a mix of USA abuse and terribly traumatized leftist government, which trends to be dictatorial to be ideologically strong against the amount of shit external interests can do to a country. As someone getting news of waves of thousands of immigrants and hearing about black out, lack of toilet paper, food, inflation over 1000% I think Maduro should be killed or impeached, but damn things are complicated on the other hand.,
2019-03-17 14:31
USSR
2019-03-17 14:37
I find this thread quite funny lmao never change hltv
2019-03-17 16:00
#173
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Argentina XaiDN 
Venezuela will sooner or later end up like the countries of the Middle East, from one civil war to another with interventions from the US. In addition, the countries with borders (Brazil and Colombia) and even others that are closer (Ecuador Peru) are receiving immigrants and do not like them very much.Although the United States is also doing its thing in poor Venezuela
2019-03-17 19:20
go away with your bad jujus. hopefully we are done with this nightmare in the coming days with less possible casualties. And we have a really good reputation wherever we go.
2019-03-19 04:40
#176
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Argentina XaiDN 
For sure friend!
2019-03-21 23:00
BUMP!
2019-03-18 03:58
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