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WESG = worst final ever?
aliStair | 
Russia og_loc 
wtf men, either windigo or ago is going to win $500k
2019-03-17 07:20
#1
Stewie2K | 
Europe Ron1e 
But windigo atleast top30, when ago tier30 😎
2019-03-17 07:24
#60
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
i desagree... this wesg shows wendingo is coming strong. U can laugh all u want, mibr is still top 3 team this year. Astralis top1 for sure, but i can see so many teams rising for the top 2-3
2019-03-17 08:59
Yes TRUE, WINDIGO Strong Like AVANGAR can make Team LIKE ASTRALIS & MIBR SWEAT +1
2019-03-17 09:03
#66
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
AGO not sure, since they only beat fnatic , but they show incredible potential for sure ( when i say "only fnatic" i mean that fntic isnt same tier as liquid, mibr, navi etc, but still HUGE) .... anyway i cant wait to see this year next tournaments... hopefully we will have a team to beat astralis...
2019-03-17 09:05
Yeah Can't WAIT for CS:GO Next Major On STARLADDER in BERLIN, gonna be Much More Good CS Gameplay Once Again .:)
2019-03-17 11:50
#113
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Slovakia gayzera 
yes, WINDIGO and AVANGAR have potential to defeat Astralis
2019-03-17 12:52
AGREED +1
2019-03-17 12:53
#143
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France mat660 
OMG so true +1111
2019-03-19 08:18
#68
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Denmark Xipingu 
So true. ENCE proved it is possible, and I am sure that run has created an incentive for teams like Windigo to push it to the limit because they now know it's possible to get there. I foresee CS:GO soon going back to a very competitive back n forth era.
2019-03-17 09:06
#71
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
yeah.. cant really see any of these beat astralis nowadays... so incredible to see them... they use so many things from LG/SK era but they make it to a huge perfection... it envys any team in the world. I hope we see a team win astralis this year, would be incredible..... hard to imagine hahahah
2019-03-17 09:07
#80
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Denmark Xipingu 
Hard to imagine, but most definitely possible as I overheard that Windigo runs the same scheduling as Astralis (picking certain events to attend and be very prepared), and I think that is how to beat Astralis atm - put in the work to do it. And I think a lot of teams are starting to understand that. Also why teams like FaZe are coming short, because they still aren't doing that. But yeah it's very good CS. Would be great to see a shift soon though, it's been great to finally see Astralis get a place in history as one of the greatest CS:GO teams to touch the game, but still.
2019-03-17 09:22
#80
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Denmark Xipingu 
Hard to imagine, but most definitely possible as I overheard that Windigo runs the same scheduling as Astralis (picking certain events to attend and be very prepared), and I think that is how to beat Astralis atm - put in the work to do it. And I think a lot of teams are starting to understand that. Also why teams like FaZe are coming short, because they still aren't doing that. But yeah it's very good CS. Would be great to see a shift soon though, it's been great to finally see Astralis get a place in history as one of the greatest CS:GO teams to touch the game, but still.
2019-03-17 09:22
back and forth era between teams fighting for 2nd place
2019-03-19 08:15
#83
FalleN | 
Estonia l3nz 
2019-03-17 09:37
#88
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Russia Islademuerto 
Stoped reading at MIBR still top 3
2019-03-17 10:01
#95
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Montenegro Fraggot 
Mibr top 3 are you a comedian?
2019-03-17 10:14
#96
Stewie2K | 
Europe Ron1e 
>mibr top3 >gaules Ok, now show you real flag bra71lian fanboy
2019-03-17 10:20
+1 my men)))))) xaxaxa
2019-03-17 12:41
get mad all u want, im not brazilian and i cheer for mibr andi love gaules and being realistic , mibr is top 3 team ez. way better than shit navi that is carried by simple
2019-03-18 07:21
Still NaVi has s1mple / flamie / electronic. +Legendary IGL Zeus. And mibr? Yeah, decent IGL, baiter? Wow! If they can stay in top30 its would be good for them
2019-03-18 07:24
being full realistic this year : 1 - astralis 2 - liquid/mibr/navi simple as that.
2019-03-18 07:25
Being realistic. mibr kick 2 brazilians and take unreal stars, major champions + one of them major MVP to make tier1 team (tier4 all year without any tier1 tournament). Then they back TACO & felps and cant win WESG with teams like: Viva Algeria, Panda, Revolution, Singularity, TNC and mixed teams like: Russia, Ukraine. And cant beat top30 team. TOP30 OMEGALUL. Tier3 4 sure.
2019-03-18 07:38
top30 teams can become top 5 easy. Plus cs go is at a huge competitive level. the only team that no1 can beat is astralis.
2019-03-18 23:25
If everyone can beat everyone. Why you say that mibr top3?
2019-03-19 06:31
#133
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
What the fuck has mibr done to deserve this, theyre so trash
2019-03-18 07:46
+1
2019-03-18 07:51
trash? closest team to defeat astralis so far. u can hate all u want, get blind by the hate... i dont care, im pretty sure mibr will be arround top 2-4 this year
2019-03-18 23:26
#140
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
Avangar almost beat astralis? Almost doesnt matter. Mibr is shit
2019-03-19 08:11
ZOTAC Cup lmao disbanded mouz did better than MiBR
2019-03-19 08:16
Mibr top 3 Hahahahhahahahhahahshhshaha!!!! Really funny!!!
2019-03-17 12:36
#2
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Denmark Menterx 
+1
2019-03-17 07:27
mibr, g2 and fnatic’s fault for sucking horse poop
2019-03-17 07:28
#4
aliStair | 
Russia og_loc 
yea
2019-03-17 07:28
#42
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
+1
2019-03-17 08:43
Best final... so if fnatic,mibr or g2 were in the final it will be the best for u... but if 2 teams that pracc hard and destroy t1 teams are in the final its worst for u.... nice newbie
2019-03-17 07:29
#6
aliStair | 
Russia og_loc 
flag checks out sry
2019-03-17 07:31
reg check out cry 12 years old kid
2019-03-17 07:36
Both statements are wrong(( I'm not 12 and I'm not crying(((((
2019-03-17 08:29
#45
Delpan | 
Bulgaria Ju7y 
Around 12?
2019-03-17 08:45
around 9
2019-03-17 08:45
#9
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Bulgaria Gulasczek 
flag checks out too
2019-03-17 07:46
flag checks out too
2019-03-17 08:16
how?) I'm neutral towards both these teams/countries they represent
2019-03-17 08:28
#37
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Bulgaria Gulasczek 
because team russia isnt in final and now you are mad
2019-03-17 08:38
C'mon men, I don't care about such things at all. Moreover, team Russia was garbage, just like the whole russian cs scene
2019-03-17 08:41
Yes CIS is completely garbage
2019-03-17 12:38
#144
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Belarus c0mmi3 
Better then botllan
2019-03-19 08:19
russia=/= cis na'vi and avangar are decent cis teams
2019-03-19 08:32
#10
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Europe lalt 
> fnatic, mibr, g2 > tier1 teams pick one
2019-03-17 07:52
So onlly t1 teams can be in the finals in any tournament?? Tier1(fnatic,mibr,g2) rekt !!!
2019-03-17 08:02
#23
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Europe lalt 
There isn't any tier1 teams in WESG so ofc some shit tier team will win shit tier tournament.
2019-03-17 08:25
ofc not, but you always expect them to be there, not ago or windigo
2019-03-17 08:30
#16
VINI | 
Brazil r1qu1nho 
+1
2019-03-17 08:15
why is this happens?
2019-03-17 08:27
Error 404: Tier 1 team not found
2019-03-17 10:13
#107
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Denmark fnx_2_major 
+1
2019-03-17 12:36
exss won 300k or smth last year who cares
2019-03-17 07:35
Ago or windigo will win 500k price pool before S1mple omegalul
2019-03-17 07:54
Lmao +1
2019-03-17 08:20
#79
rain | 
United Kingdom EKersh 
lmaoo
2019-03-17 09:21
windigo_500k_prize_pool_win_s1mple...
2019-03-17 23:09
#12
k0nfig | 
Denmark QDouble 
worst final for that kind of a money
2019-03-17 08:02
WESG = worst ever seen games
2019-03-17 08:04
+1
2019-03-17 23:09
#15
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Australia Sk8erBoi8713 
I mean, with the prize money being 500k for first place, and 200k (Correct me if I am wrong), then that means that AGO and Windigo might pick up new talent from other countries and maybe get a new roster? Just a wild stab in the dark, with all that money going to an ORG, that it what I would do (After paying the members of the team of course... don't want to pull a Denial)
2019-03-17 08:10
I think you're heavily overestimating how much the orgs get... Orgs get a very minimal cut of winnings, with some top orgs even giving player a 100% cut of all prizes. Orgs probably get 5-20% with 20% being very generous
2019-03-17 08:20
#22
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Australia Sk8erBoi8713 
Eh, you never know, while I do know that players get a healthy cut, I don't know how much an org gets. Some top orgs give most if not all money because they have a good brand with many fans. E.G Fnatic, they have a heavy scene in CS and Dota and probs LoL so they have more leighway with their players and winnings.
2019-03-17 08:23
It's just a different final, it will be cool
2019-03-17 08:16
Sux to see cs go turned only money game most teams don't wanna practice and then complain they can't defeat astralis Scene is so dull nowadays
2019-03-17 08:22
AGO 1 major s1mple 0
2019-03-17 08:26
PGL Major final was worse.In WESG you had only tier 2 teams at best like mibr,fnatic,g2. At PGL immortals had the easiest road the final ever and gambit was so lucky to beat astralis and fnatic.
2019-03-17 08:28
+1 on that
2019-03-17 08:29
#31
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United States Jammin800k 
Nah gambit played comprehensively better than Astralis that series as a unit
2019-03-17 08:32
astralis did mistake in veto ,they should've picked nuke due they were top 1 at this map and gambit not playing it all.Would've been 2-0.
2019-03-17 08:44
#52
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United States Jammin800k 
Doesnt change my statement
2019-03-17 08:50
Nah it was fluke.Mou had incredible first map and astralis did some mistakes on train that cost them victory(glaive teamkill,dupreeh holding ladder and dying 3 rounds in the row to zeus LMAO).It wasn't gambit playing super well but astralis underperforming.Of course I don't want to take it anything from gambit because they've played great at pgl.
2019-03-17 09:09
#74
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United States Jammin800k 
Still doesn't change what I said, gambit played better counterstrike than astralis. Also good tactics make enemy teams look stupid and star players can carry, that's part of the reason they're there.
2019-03-17 09:12
Have you seen gambit playing in final/semi of any tier 1 tournament before pgl major?Nope Have you seen gambit playing like they did at plg major at any tournament after pgl?Nope Astralis before pgl major:winning eleague major,iem katowice,semis/finals in all of tier 1 tournaments. Astralis after pgl major still top 3 contender and rn they have greatest era we've ever seen. It was fluke and stop being delusional.I've watched that game and it was massive underperform like vs vp at eleague 2017 major(even though they've won).Gambit shouldn't have beaten fnatic at pgl but dennis/flusha fucked up.
2019-03-17 11:25
#103
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United States Jammin800k 
Well Zeus and kane left directly after so it's hard to say about after. Fluke and luck are two different things.
2019-03-17 11:36
#32
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United Kingdom szkk 
Its something different, and is interesting at least. Every final is nice, when Boringstralis isnt in it.
2019-03-17 08:33
+1 even though it feels strange to see such teams in the finals and not in some t3 quals, they totally deserve it and it's going to be interesting
2019-03-17 08:38
#39
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United Kingdom szkk 
+1
2019-03-17 08:40
AGO and Windigo have proved themselves through the tournament and lets just see how the grand final will be like
2019-03-17 08:34
Yea, both teams are pretty solid, and they obv deserve to play in the final)
2019-03-17 08:36
They clearly deserve it, and chances are it's going to be an exciting match, so I don't see what your problem is...just because they're less known players doesn't mean it'll be a bad final. That usually happens when there's a good team and a significantly worse, like most of the major finals for some reason
2019-03-17 08:38
C'mon, men, I don't have a problem with that at all :) It just feels strange to see these teams in $500k finals not in some t3 quals But I agree that both teams deserve it
2019-03-17 08:39
Then you should've worded the title differently, because it makes it sound like that
2019-03-17 10:11
like astralis vs ence
2019-03-17 08:40
Well duuh
2019-03-17 10:11
who shouldve been in the finals then? liquid who lost to ence and rogue? navi who have lost to ence north and heroic in 1 month? mibr who lost to windigo in wesg?
2019-03-17 10:23
#44
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World Notb8ing 
windigo could have ez been in majors though :), it was very close competition in EU minor, AGO more random finalist though but I suppose they lately at least seem bit better after their slumps x D
2019-03-17 08:46
#47
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Japan Ame_Aoi 
Nice to saw the underdogs get up and kick the "TOP Team"'s ass
2019-03-17 08:46
I'd prefer to see Absolute in the finals Would be ez for god laz
2019-03-17 08:48
#102
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Japan Ame_Aoi 
I don't see the future of them, they do getting better, but the players in Japanese is much less than all the other country, which means they will get less talented player, feels sad.
2019-03-17 11:31
#48
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Turkey anliyorum 
mad because both bulgaria and poland didn't bend over against the soviet union OMEGALUUUUUUUUUUUUL XD
2019-03-17 08:48
ahaha, meen, you got me
2019-03-17 08:49
i feel exposed now
2019-03-17 08:49
#53
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Turkey anliyorum 
imagine being russian and being fan of a capitalist country's team OMEGALUUUUUUUL XD
2019-03-17 08:50
I'm going to be sent to gulag soon(
2019-03-17 08:51
#55
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Turkey anliyorum 
no dude seriously tho both team deserved to be in finals
2019-03-17 08:53
#34, #36 I know, right?)
2019-03-17 09:16
AGO beat fnatic. Windigo beat both mibr and G2. I mean the final is pretty much deserved for both teams. If you dont like it blame it on WESG and their rules.
2019-03-17 08:56
#65
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
More like blame it on fnc and g2 and mibr sucking
2019-03-17 09:04
Not really. Mibr having vacantion in China, Fnatic being dead team and G2 without their new 5th wouldnt be a better final than AGO vs Windigo.
2019-03-17 09:08
it would be because these are two of the biggest org in this scene and theyve Huge fanbase, + we all know were going to hear a lot more about these two teams in the future than windigo who's org is even trying to sell its team and ago
2019-03-17 09:19
Depends. I enjoy the underdog stories, dont tell me ENCEs run at the major wasnt impressive even though the final was utter boring.
2019-03-17 09:48
Thats not my point
2019-03-17 09:49
It kinda is though? People talk much more about Liquid and NaVi(s1mple) than ENCE, both teams got defeated by them.
2019-03-17 10:33
Having mdl match as final is a disgrace.
2019-03-17 09:03
#67
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United States Jammin800k 
Dont think you can call it the worst final when it literally hasnt happened yet. But what I will say is that it's quite off putting that it feels like the 3rd place decider has a bigger reflection on the future of the scene than the final. Wouldn't be surprised if fnatic g2 has more views.
2019-03-17 09:05
thats funny shitty team win 500k$ XD
2019-03-17 09:06
#70
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Denmark Xipingu 
Meh, I'd say the only thing I am pissed about this event is the fact that there's as many technical issues as there were per standard in 2015/16, which is a joke in 2019.
2019-03-17 09:07
Probably, retards that love to see favourite teams fail will tell you otherwise but the reason why this is a trash final is that we 100% wont hear about the teams playing the finals after this trash tournament while the teams playing 3rd place match are 2 of the biggest org in this scene that can always do huge roster change and be relevant even if things dont go well
2019-03-17 09:16
#84
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Bulgaria RzE 
Windigo are playing in ESL Pro League so you will hear about them. Last season they were 1 place behind the ESL Pro League Finals.
2019-03-17 09:48
Windigo org was even trying to sell their team prior to this event but you have that flag so I wont mind you
2019-03-17 09:50
#105
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Bulgaria RzE 
So that does not prove your point. Do you make difference between team and organization ? Also windigo players signed new contracts with the organization just before the event.
2019-03-17 12:35
#78
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Finland Vkims 
Why is it worst final? I dont get it?
2019-03-17 09:19
That AGO and Windigo got to the finals via big wins against fnatic, mibr and g2 proves they are much better than previously thought.
2019-03-17 09:30
it will be a closer match than Ence vs Astralis
2019-03-17 10:01
#90
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World dammo 
best final ever 😎 cuz no mibr 🤣
2019-03-17 10:03
#94
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Finland James Nelson 
It's best final. Finally something fresh and new. I hope it's a close game
2019-03-17 10:14
#99
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Poland boltzzon 
I hope Windigo won't rape AGO ))
2019-03-17 10:29
#98
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Poland LucaS04 
Because There is no your country team. If fucking team Russia where There u Would never wrote this thread
2019-03-17 10:26
No. If there would be Virtus pro it's would be much better
2019-03-17 12:43
You don`t know anything about CS scene ) this guys are top 1 tier2 team. They can beat every tier 1 team. They deserve to be here in finals. For AGO it`s just best time, they are trash team. After this final they will like always throw every single game. Same as ence
2019-03-17 12:43
No the worst final was Ence vs Astralis major
2019-03-17 12:45
Braindead post delete it please
2019-03-17 13:21
you are taking this too personal. I respect both of these teams, it just feels strange to see them in $500k finals and not in some t2 quals
2019-03-17 23:06
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s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Ence vs Astralis worst ever
2019-03-17 13:33
why worst? its just a different one and that's what makes it better
2019-03-17 23:11
#117
2019-03-17 23:12
As a tier 2-3 national team it’s actually a good idea to practice hard for wesg since you know t1 teams won’t show up especially after major and it’s an easy 500k. Don’t know how much you can read into it in terms of Windigo and agos form but we’ll see
2019-03-18 07:28
I'm happy for bulgarian guys, who for the first time earned money from winning and not from throwing
2019-03-18 07:34
#126
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
im so sorry that windigo faced, movistar riders, fnatic, mibr, g2 and ago and manged to win so u can feel bad. Now look at G2's opponents.
2019-03-18 07:32
#117
2019-03-18 07:33
#129
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
i am not taking this personal by any means, lol. Just Windigo fully deserved it beating top teams on Lan bo3.
2019-03-18 07:36
#130
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Poland misioneos 
That was much better than last two major finals lul
2019-03-18 07:37
+1
2019-03-18 07:50
Yes
2019-03-18 07:38
Worst final was all those Astralis vs Brazilian Liquid finals
2019-03-18 23:28
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