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Denmark mibrbestteam 
Answer this question: There are atheists who say that the main purpose of man is to survive and reproduce. There are other atheists who say that the human being is a parasite that is consuming the resources and destroying the nature, and therefore, the human race has to be extinct so that the nature survives. There are still other atheists who say nothing in the world has purpose, so it does not matter whether nature or whether the human being are destroyed. There are also other atheists who say that truth is subjective and everyone is right at the same time. So in your worldview who is the judge who decides who is right or wrong?
2019-03-18 13:05
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Faroe Islands The_Muslims 
Go ahead and kill some infidels instead of posting here mr religious individual.
2019-03-18 13:08
Atheism helps kill millions of babies in abortions, and atheist / socialist countries have killed countless people.
2019-03-18 13:13
I wonder if people that got killed because of religions is less than the ones by abortion. Also what does socialism have to do with atheism? About abortion; it's totally OK if someone doesn't want to be responsible for the individuals coming to this shitty world (thanks to religions once again).
2019-03-18 13:16
Do you have any moral basis for criticizing this in atheism? What is your moral standard to criticize? The difference is that religion says: killing is wrong. Atheism says: To kill or not to kill is subjective, there is nothing wrong and not right with that, people are worthless because they are just cosmetic dust. Therefore they can not be criticized
2019-03-18 13:19
You are either braindead or your parents didn't educate you well if you can't get what's good or bad without reading a book. I don't see any point arguing with a dumbshit like you after seeing that you can't separate if killing is ok or not LMFAO. Also Christianity says that killing is ok in some sort of situations but whatever you are clearly low IQ or a massive baiter.
2019-03-18 14:16
You have stated that I have a low IQ. Is this a subjective and relative opinion or truth? Where do you find the truth in atheism?
2019-03-18 15:24
Not arguing with a dumb religious cumbubble who believes in fictional characters, so won't waste my time educating an idiot anymore since you're a worthless piece of human trash.
2019-03-18 15:34
Let's go with braindead
2019-03-18 17:25
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Poland Astoner55 
Actually, religion says: removing a few cells is bad, because it's already a human!!!!1 When Atheism says: Removing a few cells that didn't form a human yet is up to you if you want to remove it or not, science proved it to be cool, because the cells don't feel anything. Yeah, giving people choice and using science is so bad, it's better to have no choice and ignore facts LMAO Smart
2019-03-18 16:22
You dont seem to know a lot about abortions pal. Its not as harmless as you may think.
2019-03-18 22:33
First show me where you find basis for morality, worth and human dignity without Christianity, Mr Atheist. Atheism says: Who cares? Christianity says: Killing is wrong, you are hypocrites!
2019-03-18 13:23
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Denmark MrLagzy 
Please show me how Christianity got their moral background without the teachings of the atheist philosophical geniuses back in Greece? The whole moral foundation in Christianity is stolen directly from Epicurus and Aristotle's teachings of morality and virtue. And BTW - Christianity says that killing without a proper cause is wrong. This means that there are plenty of reasons you could kill without sinning for Christians. For an example: Leveticus 20:13 - 'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." Therefor it's morally right to kill homosexuals if you're a Christian. This is just one of many reasons where the holy bible of christianity deems it morally right and just to kill people. For Atheism there are no absolute guidelines that teaches how they have to live, what their morals and ethics have to be and who to kill. For Atheists morality is something that is build in collaboration with humanity. Therefore it's done in the interest of the individual and the society - what is best for both? This is where equality comes into play. If I'm a master and I have a slave, I live in a good position, but my slave doesn't. Therefor slavery is bad (slavery is both accepted and condemned in the bible) Morality should be something that works for all humans to give them equality, meaning equal freedom, equal responsibility and equal opportunity. I'm an atheist and I live by the teachings of Epicurus and Aristotle. Nichomachean Ethics by Aristotle is a good read if you want to live as a good human being.
2019-03-18 13:55
I think you just owned him
2019-03-18 14:05
#51 You are making mistakes or lying because Aristotle was not an atheist as you mistakenly stated, he acknowledged God's revelation as the "Unmoved mover" a concept of the existence of a supreme principle of nature. Secondly, Aristotle creates in a universal absolute law, and not in mere subjective opnions. Even Aristostéles wrote a few things about theology, it follows that he was theist, not atheist as you have misleadingly stated; for it is impossible to obtain some moral principle from the atheistic worldview, but if you consider it possible, i am challenging you to explain where you obtain the moral standard of atheism-materialist-evolutionist and show me the basis of human dignity and worth, for which you must respect some person. So, you can not open your mouth to criticize anything morality at all until you first show where to find morality, worth, and human dignity in atheism. when the Gentiles, which have not the law [ 10 commandments], do by nature the things contained in the law [ 10 commandments ], these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) Romans2:14,15 The Stoics before Christ who did not know the law of Moses said that in the universe certain laws operate that man breaks for his own risk, and that these laws are of nature and that man must live according to it. Plutarch, another Greek philosopher said: Who will govern the governor? It is the Law, the Queen of all mortals and immortals, which is written in reason within the soul and never leaves its soul deprived of moral direction But, this does not exist in the atheistic worldview. Where do you get the universal law from atheism? They all recognized the UNIVERSAL Law above humanity , above society, and this law which God has implanted in all of us is the basis upon which all men will be judged, and no one can justify himself on the day of his judgment. Everyone has the moral law of God written in their conscience, including you, people who have never heard the gospel, most primitive tribes, all know that they should love and respect their neighbor, because God wrote in their hearts, lying and defaming is wrong, and when they do they violate their conscience and know that God is their judge. The most primitive tribes that had ever spoken of the philosophers cultivated some moral principle as: to take care of the old and the sick people, to protect the children, to consider betrayal and adultery wrong, to punish thieves; showing that it was not the philosophy that brought these standards to the world. But your problem, my atheist friend, is that without God you have no basis to say why we should respect and love next and why they have any value and dignity. Atheism gives you no basis to criticize anyone, the only foundation that atheism gives is that you can live like an animal and there is nothing wrong with that.
2019-03-18 15:21
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Denmark MrLagzy 
Never did I say that Aristotle was an Atheist. I said he was against anthropomorphizing God or gods. Very big difference. Dogmatic religions such as Christianity, judaism, Islam, etc has an anthropomorphized God. Yes Aristotle viewed god as the "Unmoved mover" someone who was outside the known universe, the essence that set things in motion. What he did not do was anthropomorphize God. Very big difference in how Aristotle perceived of a God and how the Christian God is. out of the 10 commandments, only few are laws we have today. What is the moral law of god? How did God invent these laws? Do you question his decision or do you just take it at his word? That's is incredibly ignorant. Also - a lot of what you say about Aristotle and his universal law is misinterpretations by Thomas Aquinas. One should read and understand Aristotle without the interpretation lens of Christianity. Remember, Aristotle predates the Christianity all together. Also with God, religious people have no basis to say whether it's morally wrong or morally right. It's just morally wrong or morally right because "god said so" which is the equivalent to "mom said so!" when siblings fight. This is quite an authoritarian view on god - believing that whatever he does must be the right way, and if you don't follow you go to hell. BTW Aristotle was against authoritarianism. Also.. We are all animals. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens who developed over time through evolution. Evolution is currently an irrefutable fact of life. So living like an Animal is okay, because our current way of living is living like animals. Also as an Atheist, I have all the right to criticize and question ideas and people. It's up to people to take the choice whether they want to answer or not. Also how I would, and probably how ethics and morality has developed over time as our intelligence grew over the past hundred thousand years, is through observation. Just look at my comment about slavery. Some day you might learn and actually sound less like someone who just read something based on a google search.
2019-03-18 16:12
You said that you question ideas. Do you question your own reasoning and senses? His thoughts are products of a random evolution, his ancestor was an amoeba. How do you know that your reasoning and senses are valid? You can not give me a circular answer . You also use your reason and sense to interpret what the scientists say. Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? Atheism gives the whole foundation for you to live as an animal, but not morality. The animals have sex and shit on the street with no shame. you do this? Answer me, what is the moral grounding in atheism-materialistic-evolutionary at random? Where do we find truth and lies in atheism? What makes cosmic dust called by ourselves worthy, value and respectful human beings? To begin a discussion of morality you have to show where you find grounds without God. To assert that aristosteles pre-wrote some , are they absolute or relative? Repeating," i am challenging you to explain where you obtain the moral standard of atheism-materialist-evolutionist and show me the basis of human dignity and worth, for which you must respect some person. So, you can not open your mouth to criticize anything morality at all until you first show where to find morality, worth, and human dignity in atheism."
2019-03-18 17:38
#78 "Just look at my comment about slavery. " 1 - In the first place , you have to show why in the atheist-evolutionist-materialist world somebody has some dignity, value and respect. Only then will there be some genuine reason why you should free the slaves. For if there is no reason, then you can live as an animal and enslave whom you want. Who cares? that is natural selection. Atheists always accuse Christians of not accepting reality, but you who do not accept the reality of the implications of you worldviews. You do not live in the reality that you yourself defend. 2 - "I live in a good position, but my slave doesn't. Therefor slavery is bad " How can you know that your reasoning and sense are valid to make this judgment? You made a statement based on your arbitrary will. Now is it you who decides what is good and bad and what should we ( humanity) do? Have you become The King or God among men? If a group of people disagree with you, who will be the judge and decide who to be correct? 3 - You said "morality is something that builds in collaboration with humanity" So the highest standard is society, so you have refuted yourself, because you do not have a standard above society to be able to criticize slave society 4- So happiness is what judges what is morally right? Men can be happy for a lot of different and strange things. - 5 - My challenge continues. If you can not demonstrate, just surrender and abandon your false and foolish worldview.
2019-03-18 18:13
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United States MitchJones 
First of all greeks weren't atheist, second Christianity got nothing from them in terms of morality.
2019-03-18 16:16
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Denmark MrLagzy 
I know that Greeks weren't atheists.. but Epicurus was. You don't read what I say and you assume stuff I didn't say.
2019-03-18 21:28
#82
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United States MitchJones 
"Christianity says that killing without a proper cause is wrong" ????????? are you kidding source?
2019-03-18 16:17
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Denmark MrLagzy 
One of the commandments says "Thou shalt not kill" and then the bible gives so many reasons why it's okay to kill certain people.
2019-03-18 21:37
In the New Testament? I arent think that
2019-03-18 22:35
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United States MitchJones 
"This is just one of many reasons where the holy bible of christianity deems it morally right and just to kill people." You are ignorant, please don't talk about things you don't understand or know nothing about, please, Thank you.
2019-03-18 16:18
#84 You merely ran away from everything I asked, proving that atheism has no moral foundation whatsoever.
2019-03-18 17:12
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Uruguay zero`SAMA 
Are you aware of how many people were brutally killed by the so called "Holy Church" just because they didn't believe in their imaginary friends? I've nothing left to say tbh, if you want to believe go ahead.
2019-03-18 14:17
#63 In atheism worldview this is simply natural selection, who cares? Wrong and right are subjective, and not absolute truths. We came from a random world. we are mere cosmetic dust. the only foundation that atheism gives is that you can live like an animal and there is nothing wrong with that. I as a Christian can criticize the Catholic church for this, i can call them murderers and hypocrites, but you as an atheist have no basis for it. If you have it, then show me. What is the moral basis for people having value and dignity in atheism? First you have to show why this is wrong in your worldview. If you have no basis, then you must repent of your false worldview and believe in Jesus Christ
2019-03-18 15:33
Are you literally that retarded to understand that killing people is not OK for humans and it's called common sense which is something you are lacking since you are below 65 IQ. Hilarious how can someone be that ignorant, you are fairly a waste of oxygen. PS: Not replying you anymore just so you know fucking dumb kid.
2019-03-18 15:38
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Uruguay zero`SAMA 
You are asking me why is wrong killing others because they don't believe in what you believe is truth ? You are telling me I've to be a Christian to criticize what the Church did years ago with their so called "Crusades" and all that stuff ? I believe there is a form of God greater than all of us, what I dont believe is in Religions, most corrupt, brain wash entities created by men.
2019-03-18 15:39
SHOW ME THE FOUNDATION that in atheism the human being has value and dignity and must be respected. "common sense" where does this sense come from? This is an affirmation of absolute truth. So you agree that there is absolute truth? How do you know your senses are valid? We have a society that has already decided to kill Jews, so why did not they act according to "common sense"?  You are appealing to a universal law and recognizing that there is an absolute standard of goodness and evil, welcome to the Christian worldview, read Romans 2: 14-15. You are using the standard of the Christian to affirm that it is not good to kill people, because you can not affirm such a thing without using the standard of God, because you are a dependent creature of Him. I'm telling you to stop stealing the morality from the Christian worldview and responding according to your atheistic worldview.. I am asking in the atheistic-materialist-evolutionist worldview, why do people have value and dignity? . What is wrong with living like animals? We are cosmic dust without purpose. Who cares? This is merely natural selection. Atheists always accuse Christians of not accepting reality, but they are voices who do not accept the reality of the implications of their worldviews Only the Christian can consistently criticize the Catholic church, but you can not do this without contraband the standard of Christian morality. You use God's moral standards all the time and you are not thankful to God for this, because you only want to use it when it suits you, when God tells you to judge you you will refuse. Are you thinking straight about what I'm talking about my friend?
2019-03-18 16:51
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Uruguay zero`SAMA 
Stealing morality? bruh, the church / christianity lost all morality years ago, christians are just too blind to see. As said, most corrupt, brain wash entities created by men. Have a good day mate. Im done reading your BS.
2019-03-18 16:51
I'm not saying that you go to church or read the Bible. I'm saying that you have no basis for accusing immorality from an atheist point of view. I am saying that you know the principles of divine goodness in your heart, because you know that God exists, you know what is good and bad for your conscience, and you have an absolute principle about it, as the bible says. You know you must not kill, you know must not steal, you must respect your parents; but all these things do not come from the atheistic world, all these things come from God, even if you do not credit God for it. That is why whenever I say: "Show me the foundation by which man should be valuable, worthy and respected in atheism worldview" You run away and do not respond me directly when the Gentiles, which HAVE NOT the law [ 10 commandments], do by nature the things contained in the law [ 10 commandments ], these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) Romans2:14,15
2019-03-18 17:06
Atheists always accuse Christians of not accepting reality, but you are who do not accept the reality of the implications of atheist worldviews. You seek for "freedom from the laws and judgment of God," but you do not want to accept the destruction of living as an animal. Do you want to use God's absolute and universal moral law to try to criticize God? The only reason you try to criticize God (even if you have no moral basis for it) is because you are a sinner and want to justify your sins by accusing your judge rather than acknowledging them.
2019-03-18 17:07
The first part makes no sense, what is "the destruction of living as an animal?". In the second part, you still haven't answered the question of natural selection causing morals. I don't want to sound like a stupid Redditor, but this talk about being a sinner is just blatant ad hominem.
2019-03-18 17:29
#119 What I am saying is that in the naturalist-atheist-evolutionist worldview there is no basis to claim that human being has any value, dignity, and therefore must be respected and loved. In atheism there is nothing wrong with living as an animal, killing and enslaving, shitting and having sex on the street without shame. What's the problem? Who cares? It is just the random course of things, The survival of the fittest in practice. How can this be wrong if we are products of chance, mere protoplasms, descendants of amoeba without purpose, cosmetic dust. This is the same as looking at a stone and saying that the stone is worthy and deserves respect and love. if you disagree with me, then show me the legitimate morality on atheism. I am challenging atheists to explain where they get the moral standard of atheism-materialist-evolutionist and show me the basis of human dignity and worth, for which you must respect someone. And every time atheists criticize something in history, they are smuggling their own absolute morality Christians, not using their own foolish worldview. And every time they do this, they presuppose (albeit without admitting God) that the law of God exists and God exists
2019-03-18 19:13
I am saying that they steal the absolute standards of Christianity when it suits him
2019-03-18 19:15
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Brazil FERRAZ4tw 
I respect you. However, you know you can be a good person without an imagine friend and the bible? Right? That is unfair you saying atheist people has no moral basis. Sorry, How old are you?
2019-03-18 15:39
You just answered your own question, natural selection decides morals.
2019-03-18 17:27
#102
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Estonia Henrioad 
wait what?? atheism kills babies via abortion?? im atheist and i a pro life
2019-03-18 16:59
#162
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Europe deVulse 
+1 gotta agree on 2nd point
2019-03-18 19:50
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France ripmypickems 
lmao there are people who shouldn't have children so they get abortion that's better than getting a child you don't want and won't love as you should Plus how does it affect you that a woman gets an abortion ? That's none of your business at all
2019-03-18 20:00
No one judges, that's the point bro
2019-03-18 13:09
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Germany cucKing 
if u don't have the capability to decide what is right or wrong without reading some 2000 year old book you are sub 80iq
2019-03-18 13:09
MR IQ
2019-03-18 13:15
I do not have the capibility to judge from the atheistic worldview, because there is no absolute standard of truth, and because I am not an atheist. But if you're an atheist and have the ability, then answer me. This is a problem that atheists have to answer I have the capability to decide based on Christianity, not on atheism.
2019-03-18 13:16
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Germany cucKing 
Oh wait do you mean who is the judge to what world view is right? Or who is the judge to what actions are right?
2019-03-18 13:17
In comment # 4 you judged me stating that I have low IQ. So, your statement that I have low IQ is a merely subjective and relative opinion or is it the truth? Where do you find truth in atheism? #17 In atheism world view, Who o what decides which opnion is right or wrong? To assert that everyone is right is to go against the law of noncontradiction, but I suppose that this law does not exist in atheism, because it belongs to God
2019-03-18 13:54
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Germany cucKing 
Well obv I was a bit "aggressive" in #4 cuz your threads are annoying and I guess it was an assumption of sorts. Also, in the comment I meant that if you can't decide who is right or wrong in actions, like if killing a person is right or wrong, that's what I meant there. where do I find the truth? Well, with science and stuff. Depends on what I want to know the truth of. The truth is facts, i.e. my table is made of wood. That's a fact and if I tell you that then that's the truth. Obviously I can't know everything and therefore the truth about everything. Your question is a very weird one. What do you want to know the truth of? How the world was created? Which worldview is right? be more specific
2019-03-18 13:59
#53 ok
2019-03-18 16:11
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BnTeT | 
Germany cucKing 
Well, if another person is negatively affected by your actions, it is wrong (i.e. slavery is wrong, abortion is a little more complicated) How do I know my reasoning and sense is valid? Well, if I showed my table to 100 people on the street and asked them what it was made of they would agree it is made of wood. I trust my reasoning and believe that the human brain is capable of accurate reasoning. If for example a scientist claims that cheap sunglasses can hurt your eyes (due to not blocking UV light and your pupils dilating) then I apply my knowledge and reason to confirm that he is right. Basically, I trust my reasoning and senses because for simple questions, like if my table is made of wood, everyone who has seen it would agree with me that it is. As a result, I believe that I can also trust my reasoning and senses in more complex scenarios.
2019-03-18 16:24
"if another person is negatively affected by your actions." - How can this be wrong if we are products of chance, mere protoplasms, descendants of amoeba without purpose, cosmetic dust. This is the same as looking at a stone and saying that the stone is worthy and deserves respect and love. With what foundation in the atheist worldview can you say that someone has value, dignity and therefore deserves love and respect? " I showed my table to 100 people on the street and asked them what it was made of they would agree" - You would have to have someone with valid reasoning to show whether yours is valid or not. But the problem is, where would you find this person? The only person who can validate your reasoning has to be infallible, incapable of making mistakes. But you told me that you would ask others descendants of randomly evolved amoebas, assuming their reasoning and sense are valid. How can you know this if you do not know that your own sense and reasoning are valid? It's illogical! And you would anyway have to use your reason and sense to interpret what they are telling you, then you still have to solve this problem: How can you know that your sense and reasoning are valid? If everyone said that the earth is flat, then would it be flat? Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know?
2019-03-18 18:45
#53 I think you will agree with me that Truth is the Reality, whether we believe it or not; but if you accept it, you will have to accept that there is an absolute and universal truth. The laws of logic, for example, are universal, absolute, independent and immutable, otherwise there would be no science You said that you know your table is made of wood. But you do this based on the interpretation of using your reasoning and sense, that are products of a random evolution. How do you know that your reasoning and senses are valid? You can not give a circular answer, because you know that human knowledge is limited. You also use your reason and sense to interpret what the scientists say. Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? If our brains thoughts are merely chemical reactions, then which chemical reaction is true or not? If I shake two bottles of soda, then which one will be the true and false chemical reaction?And how do you prove morality by science? How do you prove that truth comes only through science? In my worldview I can answer all these questions, But can you do this using the atheistic worldview? I do not have the authority to decide anything, but in christian worldview God has revealed the truth in His word, He is the ultimate authority for it, and everything that contradicts his word is false. The problem of the atheist is that in the moment that you rejects God, you has to seek authority in himself or in society (majority). But all these things are relative. There is a society that laws prohibit abortion and another society that allows abortion. Which one is right and wrong? Slavery was also supported by society, so if you adopt the worldview that society is what defines right and wrong, then it will have no pattern above society to be able to criticize slavery society. In the atheist world everything is subjective and there is discordance at various levels.So, then who decides what is real or not real?
2019-03-18 16:23
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World mukas17 
Your understanding of what science is seems to be very basic. Read some of the proponents of the descriptive school (Kuhn, Lakatos, Feyerabend). Science doesn't search for The Truth, it solves problems, one at a time. There isn't a single scientist who goes into his laboratory each morning with the goal of finding The Truth. Only people with a weak will and character crave absolute, unmovable truths. One must be swift and nimble as one traverses the ever-changing reality, not stay fixed upon truths that were true 3 thousand years ago but might not represent the actual world of today OR the reality of SOME people, like people who aren't Christians or Westerners. You want an eternal guarantee for your truths - well there isn't one. If that scares you then it's because you lack belief in yourself and so in mankind. People fix truths by the power of their own intelligence within the paradigm they work in, the best that the best of us have been able to come up with so far. Christianity was fixed as the leading paradigm in large part by violence. Christianity as the one Truth worked while the West was insulated within itself and this one single paradigm was enough to explain away occasional dissent as temptation of the devil, but it's not enough to explain the atrocities that it eventually lead to, aka modernity. Because the big social projects of the 20th century (Nazi Germany and USSR) are the ultimate consequence of the way of thinking that Christianity proposes - the big guy controlling the rest of us with some randomly elected guys as the mouthpiece of the unknowable god. There's nothing wrong with Christianity as a paradigm and it was THE paradigm for two thousand years, but then the majority of people decided that it failed and that they wanted to emancipate themselves and give another paradigm a shot (free market capitalism). Maybe our current one will lead into an even bigger failure, but we will have to live and see.
2019-03-18 16:56
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Germany kabu3000 
Mainly, you and those around you judge what's right and wrong. So a lot of things are defined by the society you live in and the experiences you have had throughout your life. But the world is not black and white, not everything is clearly right or wrong. It's hard to explain...I guess I decide based on the data I have and my personal experiences.
2019-03-18 13:22
#21 Thank you for at least not attacking me, but responding in a friendly way. There are societies that approve abortions and others do not. If society is the standard, then which one is right? all societies right? If your answer is "yes". So you are in favor of slavery? because society has approved slavery and you do not have a moral standard base above society. And how can you be absolutely sure that your reasonings and senses that capture reality are valid?
2019-03-18 14:02
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Katie | 
Germany kabu3000 
I might have explained that a bit wrong. Society may be the standard but it's not the absolute rule. There are plenty of laws and customs I dislike or don't agree with. Abortion for example is allowed in my country. That doesn't mean that I now say "oh, abortion is legal here so that means that I must agree with that". What I do is, I look at the facts, I see what other people's opinions are and decide based on that. Obviously, I'm talking about today's world, so of course I'm not in favor of slavery. As for your last point, I suppose I can't be 100% sure, just like we can't be sure that we're not all living inside a simulation. I'm guessing you're religious and therefore you can be sure that your logic and senses are accurate since they are given by God?
2019-03-18 14:10
#23
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Czech Republic Rewask 
It's their own opinion and view.
2019-03-18 13:24
#24
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Finland Headbangeri 
I'm an atheist but I do not share any of those thoughts. We're our own judges and we shape our own small world around us. The purpose in everyones life is up to the individual. I personally aim to be a better version of myself every day, I read and study a lot. Also those that say that we would be capable of destroying nature is minority. The planet itself will go for millions of years after we're dead, we might destroy the ecosystem for ourselves temporarily, but the planet has the capabilities to heal from that. But yeah, those that worry for the planet should start to worry for the humankind. We're destroying ourselves. Truth is not subjective, science will give reasons to as how we're here and where we're heading. I do hope that we would learn from our mistakes and people would start judging themselves more, there's plenty of fingers pointed on others when the fault is on the person pointing that. I hope this clarify your view on atheists more.
2019-03-18 13:24
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Denmark MrLagzy 
Also a great read on morality and ethics are Epicurus and Aristotles teachings on morality and ethics. They both studied morality in and of it self without religious interference but as a subject of it self. Aristotle wrote about being a good person whereas Epicurus wrote about being a good person to become happy. Aristotles book Nicomachean Ethics is a great read. Also Epicurus was a well known Atheist and wrote this trilemma over 2000 years ago. If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist? Aristotle wasn't necessarily an atheist or a religious person, but didn't like the anthropomorphizing of God. Basically his description of what god is, is quite similar to what we think of big bang today. Christianity basically anthropomorphized this Aristotle's view on god and stole from various other religions older than Christianity.
2019-03-18 14:11
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Finland Headbangeri 
Yes, I am very familiar with both Aristoteles and Epikuros. They have been an inspiration in my own way of life, as you can clearly see how I view the world. Also I am very familiar with the origins of christianity and the religions before that, over 4000years old religion had similar stories of a person making a cut in the ocean to walk through it, a child born out of a virgin etc. What the issue here is not how christianity has started, or even is. But how it is organized by the people that believe in such things. You see, spirituality in itself is a healthy way of handling things that seem scary or even down right frightening. We are uncabaple of handling too much negative things in our lives, so we seek help from other ways. These ways are often other people, religion (or any supernatural), drugs, gaming and various other ways. And almost every individual seeks to live a life in hedonistic way, hence we gather materials around ourselves and eat junk way more. Every religion exploits this very fact, they give a possible theory that cannot be proven or disproven for things that scare us people, such as death. It is just a massive way to control and manipulate and it is easy for such thing. On the other hand many have started studying a lot more thanks to the internet and other sources of information that you can gather. People are starting to learn new aspects and ways to live a life.
2019-03-18 14:25
No one decides, since we made up the laws.
2019-03-18 13:26
the reality is it doesn't fkin matter in what u believe in the end ur on your own there is not one giving u shit. u cease to exist and end up feeding the worms. i dont mind anyone who is religious but pls keep that shit to yourself and dont try to force ur beliefs on other ppl. cuz thats what they are belief's.
2019-03-18 13:29
Humankind is it's own judge, jury and executioner, all in one.
2019-03-18 13:28
Me. You're wrong.
2019-03-18 13:28
theres no wrong. or true. humans are stupid and they create a languaje which them dont know how to use. we create words with no meaning and this happened. TAO is god bye bye! ANARCHISM!!!!! TAOISM!!!! scepticism!!!!! NIHILISM!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA BAKUNIN, BUKOWSKI, LAO TSE, KIRKEGAARD, DESCARTES, NIETZCHE, FREUD AND MYSELF
2019-03-18 13:31
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Norway Aqw0rd 
Who determines what is right/wrong is really up to the context of the situation. I determine right/wrong for actions that I do to myself and does not affect others. Society determines what is acceptable behavior, wrong behavior may result in exclusion. Government (which Society determines) determines what is right/wrong legally. In this sense I mean society as people around you. It can be family, friends, your city, your country etc.
2019-03-18 13:35
#37
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Finland Jodecast 
oh and again the religious idiot is back
2019-03-18 13:37
#44
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Croatia mds818 
Not exactly an atheist but, if someone was deciding who's right and who's wrong there wouldn't be so many bullshits in the world and so many innocent people dying(being murdered)
2019-03-18 13:46
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Portugal xteck009 
Just to start , you are just trying to throw shit at everyone that don´t believe in your god so you clearly a dumbass. Second , i can´t say that I´m atheist or not because I think that can exist a God BUT I can´t say which God could It be so I just try to live by my own actions but always thinking about doing it in a good way and when I die I will discover which God is (It could be a God that isn´t from any religion) or I don´t even discover nothing.
2019-03-18 13:51
#47
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Turkey tastemycobra 
i think all of them are wrong. first of all, human can be a moral being without needing a religion. human potential should never be underestimated. that being said, if it comes down to the origins of our existence, yeah we are not special creatures in the universe. our composition mainly consists of carbon which is the most common stuff in the universe and it is very likely there are other life forms somewhere in the universe in some planets within their solar systems' habitable zones.
2019-03-18 13:52
Religion in 2019 OMEGALUL, I think i wont survive to the times when ppl won’t believe in “gods” created by humans.
2019-03-18 13:53
#49
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United Kingdom Peath 
I love your bait so I'm going to keep responding to your idiotic threads. YOU are the judge of right and wrong. If you think pedophilia is OK, who am I to tell you that you're wrong? I'm no one. Society says it's wrong, and by that wider context, I can glean that it is wrong, and I will tell you as such, but if I was born into a society where it was encouraged, I would probably tell you that it was OK. You don't tell me who's right, I don't tell you who's right, God doesn't tell you who's right, nobody on their own can determine right or wrong, societies tell you, and from what everyone else says, we can tell for ourselves what we should consider right and wrong.
2019-03-18 13:55
#50
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Russia NOD777 
Noone
2019-03-18 13:55
Religion is for people who are afraid to die.
2019-03-18 14:14
Why does there need to be someone who decides?
2019-03-18 14:15
#65
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Brazil Smartzilian 
+1 It's a pointless question at all.
2019-03-18 14:30
Islam is righteous way Islam is the way to Heaven
2019-03-18 14:17
Nothing happens even if we die and this whole planet die. Probably there are big creatures in the universe and might not even know us. They might be so big that we are like a dirt to them. Thing universe might just be a big anus of a fat whore. With planets shit pieces. The sùn would be opening of the asshole. The day she shit we all will go flush in a toilet and we will just die. No one will know that we existsed. The big whore wont even realize her asshole had a whole fucking colony which had humans and they were developed so much like self driving cars etc
2019-03-18 14:17
"There are atheists who say that the main purpose of man is to survive and reproduce" Are you serious ????? That not a fucking Atheist PoV .... Thats simply Nature. its what we are here for
2019-03-18 15:15
#70
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Germany NatsuS 
There is no judge
2019-03-18 15:30
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Jordan xrealx369 
And there are atheists who say religion is the reason for war, but they never talk about hitler
2019-03-18 16:15
wtf are you talking about ?
2019-03-18 16:18
Hitler was a christian man fighting for his (immoral and unjustified) beliefs that Jews and other minorities (non-ethnic/christian Germans) were worth less. Although Hitlers WW2 was not only for the purpose of religion vs. religion, it was most definitely not an Atheist war. edit: forgot a part, so I added it
2019-03-18 16:23
Hitler may not've been a traditional christian, be he was hardly an Atheist. But since he's no longer alive and able to verify whether he would consider himself Atheist or un-traditionally christian, all we can do is speculate on the meanings of old words. My view on the matter is that Hitler believed that God and Jesus exist(ed) but to that of his wretched world view, instead of traditional Christianity. Taken straight from that very wiki-link: In Hitler's early political statements, he attempted to express himself to the German public as a Christian.[9] In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches prior to and in the early years of his rule, he described himself as a Christian.[10][11] Hitler and the Nazi party promoted "Positive Christianity",[12] a movement which rejected most traditional Christian doctrines such as the divinity of Jesus, as well as Jewish elements such as the Old Testament.[13][14] In one widely quoted remark, he described Jesus as an "Aryan fighter" who struggled against "the power and pretensions of the corrupt Pharisees"[15] and Jewish materialism.[16]
2019-03-18 16:33
#96
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Jordan xrealx369 
Can't disagree.
2019-03-18 16:45
#97
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United States MitchJones 
"Hitler was a christian man fighting for his" "Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs have been a matter of debate; the wide consensus of historians consider him to have been irreligious, anti-Christian, anti-clerical and scientistic" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of.. Why are you talking about things you know nothing about or are you just lying? i fucking hate anit-christian liars.
2019-03-18 16:48
#94
2019-03-18 17:06
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United States MitchJones 
"Although Hitlers WW2 was not only for the purpose of religion vs. religion, it was most definitely not an Atheist war." Superiority of german race is an idea which is dead anti-christian since christianity is about all man being equal, that's where that idea came from btw. I don't know if you just lie or just ignorant.
2019-03-18 16:51
Unsure of why you replied twice, could've been just one big reply. #94
2019-03-18 17:06
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United States MitchJones 
Regards to his early political statements it was obvious that he used religion in order to gain trust of the nation which was mostly Christian, he would done it without it but if he would come up as an atheist earlier he would be denied. I don't know what is "Positive Christianity" but i'm sure it's not a Christianity in anyway as it denies divinity of Christ and they were regarding one race as superior, i guess it was another politcal trick him to make German people more comfortable because of the familiarity of the word "Christianity" In anyway, Christianity didn't had anything to do with nazism and world war 2 and at the end of the day Hitler wanted to get rid of it.
2019-03-18 17:12
Never claimed Nazi ideology had anything to do with Christianity, I simply came to the conclusion that Hitler still believed in a Christian God, and is therefore an untradtional kind of christian.
2019-03-18 17:29
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United States MitchJones 
#97
2019-03-18 17:32
#94 You can come to different conclusions depending on your world view, this is not a subject based in pure fact.
2019-03-18 17:39
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United States MitchJones 
It's not subjective especially in this case as far as most historians agree and i adressed why you can't come to that view. It's about facts.
2019-03-18 18:08
Fact is that it's still being debated by said historians, just because the majority agrees doesn't make it true. Sorry if I hurt your religious feelings. /out
2019-03-18 19:50
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United States MitchJones 
OK OK, take a look at this, i guess you will find this very interesting. youtube.com/watch?v=NH3ihwoNqmw Watch whole video if you are interested or skip it to 5:44 and watch it to 6:30 Hitler with his own words.
2019-03-18 19:54
Sure was interesting, still doesn't change my mind that he was an alternative type of twisted christian.
2019-03-18 20:18
So. What is the foundation of morality atheist worldview provides for you to criticize someone as a hitler? I can criticize Hitler for the Christian worldview, but what about you? Atheists say they dont belive in God, but they love using divine absolute universal law to criticize hitler. Stop stealing this from the Christian worldview and first explain how man has some value in atheism world view
2019-03-18 19:24
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Brazil Collee 
Atheism is NOT like christianism. It doesn't establish ways to live or to think. It doesn't establish what humans should do with their lives. You simply can't use atheism to explain why Hitler was wrong. You don't need to. There were and still are people who think he was "right". He's generally seen as a villain/bad human being because most people think so. It's the collective consciousness. Being right or wrong is subjective to individuals, and individuals form the society. Your individual consciousness can always determine a different view from the collective
2019-03-18 20:09
If you are so sure what you believe is true why do you keep making threads about it? Your man made god is fake, just like all the others we made up before him that people used to worship and now don't. There is the possibility of a creator but no proof either way, so who gives a fuck live life and dont try and force yourself to lie to yourself because of fake baby jesus and his dad
2019-03-18 16:17
+1
2019-03-18 19:26
You say that there is the possibility of the creator, but you do not believe that it is possible for him to make himself known to the people he created. What an illogical statement! You affirm that God did not give you any proof. But proof presupposes truth, logic and knowledge. So, but you have a worldview unable to accept truth and absolute knowledge, because presupposed that does not exist. then how will you find the absolute God, when you already assume or pressuposed that absolute truth does not exist? so the problem is your intellectual dishonesty, when you yourself contradict yourself. God has already given you clear proof of his existence, but it is you who dishonestly misinterprets it, because you presuppose everything as if there is no truth of anything. Is this what you said is true or just a relative and subjective opinion? Does absolute truth exist or not in your worldview? Where do you find the truth in atheism?
2019-03-18 19:35
Yeah that's lovely and sounds nice and fancy but: 1)Why keep making posts if you are so sure? 2)Show me the proof you're talking about 3)"you have a worldview unable to accept truth and absolute knowledge" I accept it and part of that is proof so show it 4)"Does absolute truth exist or not in your worldview?" does just have to prove it, so go ahead 5)"proof presupposes truth, logic and knowledge" it needs to exist to do that, so..again...show it
2019-03-18 19:35
you have a worldview unable to accept truth and absolute knowledge, because presupposed that does not exist. then how will you find the absolute God, when you already assume or pressuposed that absolute truth does not exist?
2019-03-18 19:36
copy pasting your last comment isn't proof it's...copy pasting your last comment. Nothing in that proves anything. Ever consider you make all these threads because you're desperate to prove it to yourself? edit: ok fine you have now edited that... I am saying this: If what you are saying is true, prove it is true. Until you can do that it is logical to suppose it not true. That's how the world works
2019-03-18 19:41
And you only interpret dishonestly because you do everything to try to hide from the divine moral judgment, but it is no use hiding, you know clearly about His existence, and you have no excuse for using dishonesty, you see and cover your eyes to not see.
2019-03-18 19:43
show me and everyone the proof I don't see anyyyything because there is nothing to see. Your god is made up even if there's a creator (which would still require proof), the god YOU worship...we made that shit up like Santa!
2019-03-18 19:44
What do you say is true or merely relative and subjective? What did you say is important or unimportant? Explain to me, how do you know that your reasoning and senses are valid? Can you be wrong about everything you know? Whenever you claim to possess some knowledge, you demonstrate that you know that God exists.
2019-03-18 19:43
So I need to be wrong about everything I know for your God to be real? We made it up, we as humans wrote a book...we have done it many times. DO you believe what muslims and buddhists believe? You would if you were in a different geographical location. Here is what I know: You can't prove shit and inside you know that, which is why you desperately make these threads. Your belief is fundamentally that weak.
2019-03-18 19:46
If a person pressuposed firmly that he is dead, even though you shows her evidence and more evidence that he is alive, she will still think he is dead. For example, if you cut her finger to show that the dead do not bleed, she will interpret that the dead bleed. The problem is not the evidence, but the false assumption or pressuposition and the intellectual dishonesty with which you interpret the clear evidences that God gave you about His existence
2019-03-18 19:40
Wrong. You to presuppose someone is dead means you can still investigate it, if proof then shows otherwise you change your opinion. If someone does not change their opinion that they're "not dead" then they are mentally ill. " she will interpret that the dead bleed" no she will say "stop cutting my finger you cunt that hurt" "but the false assumption and the intellectual dishonesty " no the problem is the evidence because you can't provide anything so you keep saying presupposed and for some weird reason talking about dead girls. Show evidence, or stfu. Faith is when you have to just blindly believe because you have no proof. You're just describing faith NOT fact but you want to present it as fact for your own bias. Prove what you say is true is true, the end
2019-03-18 19:41
If a person firmly assumes to be dead, even if you show all the evidences of the world for her showing that she is alive, she will continue to think she is dead. If you tell her that the dead can not move, then she will look at herself and say that the dead move. If you tell her that the dead can not think, then she will look at herself and say that the dead think
2019-03-18 19:45
Ok who is this person? You just made them up. We did the same shit with your God, just made it up.
2019-03-18 19:47
Making up scenarios and telling me the results of them isnt proof and doesn't substitute for proof it's random confirmation bias based scenarios you've just made up out of nothing
2019-03-18 19:43
You presuppose that there is no absolute truth, so you can not find the absolute Truth. But I will not assume that you do this with good intentions, but that you do because the truth condemns your sins. The problem is your intellectual dishonesty. Where do you find truth in the atheist world?
2019-03-18 19:47
No I presuppose there is absolute truth and I want you to show me it All I ask is if someone says something is fact, they provide evidence to back that up as fact. You can't.
2019-03-18 19:49
Oh btw one of my favourite questions, did Noah exist?
2019-03-18 19:50
About Noah, I will only respond to you if you first respond me "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Gn 1:1 - Do you believe in this text or not? If you start from the materialistic presupposition, then you will not believe in miracles, however starting from the correct presupposition, then God is able to do everything He wants, because nothing is impossible for God.
2019-03-18 19:54
I believe that text exists because a human wrote it - it was then used as a means of explaining existence at that ancient time and also as a hierarchy of control of the masses. Your turn, noah, you believe in him too? If God is able to do everything he wants, why is he not able to enable you (over and over) to show he exists?
2019-03-18 19:55
What evidence do I have to give you to convince u that the God of Bible has given you clear evidence of His existence and Will, but you suppress it? For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness; because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, [even] his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse: Romans 1:18-20 I can not give you more evidence than God has given you my friend. I know that the lie is not in God, I hope you abandon it and repent
2019-03-18 20:17
A man wrote the quote you are giving, when Brazil was invaded believers of that brought it and brainwashed your ancestors...and now here you are presenting it as truth. You are the bitch of people that existed hundreds of years ago that destroyed your own people. The very fact you have to ask me what evidence you have to give me shows me you have none. That book = man made. You'd be telling me the same shit about the quran if you lived somewhere else.
2019-03-18 20:17
God does not treat atheists as innocent my friend, so it is no use to take refuge in this lie .. You know that God exists because God implanted this sense of divinity in all of us, and we know through created things, yet you refuse all divine knowledge and part of dishonest pressuposition. You say you want the truth, but firmly presuppose that there is no absolute truth, this is a lie!. You also know His will because you know your Law, you know that lying and defaming is wrong, you know that killing is wrong, you know that hat disrespecting parents is wrong , and you still know that He is the judge. There is no refuge in atheism my friend, So do not think that God will treat you as innocent. The only reason you do not find God is because you're running from Him as a criminal runs away from the police, and worst of all, still blaspheming by claiming that God is a liar and not giving you clear evidence of His existence.
2019-03-18 20:30
"God implanted this sense of divinity in all of us" then by your own definition God see's me as divine
2019-03-18 20:28
God is not defined by man, it is God who reveals himself and we all know of his existence, his eternal power, his divine nature, that is, that he is God sovereign and judge of all and no one has an excuse . Everyone knows about the true God but suppresses this knowloged. No one in the court can plead innocence for being an atheist or for worshiping the wrong God, for they did so only for rebellion against the God who knew that he existed and wrote in his consciences Your moral laws.
2019-03-18 20:33
"we all know of his existence" No we don't as I don't and you can't prove it "No one in the court can plead innocence for being an atheist or for worshiping the wrong God" and nobody does, they are in court so have to prove things...ironic really If you lived in a different time you would be claiming Zeus exists, if you lived in a different location you'd claim whatever their version is real and go against the God you're defending now.
2019-03-18 20:37
How do you know what's true? Where do you find the truth in atheism? How do you know your reasoning is valid? Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? Now you have a false knowledge. which can not validate why humans are valuable, worthy and deserve respect and love; Where did the laws logic come from ? which are universal, uniform, immutable and independent; and you can not even claim to have some knowledge, because it could be wrong about everything and there is no way to validate your thinking. You could say the absurdity of Socrates: "The only thing I know absolutely, is that I know absolutely nothing" That's because you rejected the knowledge of the truth. But do you know what God did to forgive dishonest sinners like you and me, who live in defiance of Him? He sent Jesus Christ into the world, his Son, to die on the cross and redeem sinners, and rose again from the dead declaring to all that He is the true Son of God. And whoever repents and believes in him will be forgiven.
2019-03-18 20:45
"you have a false knowledge. How do you know what's true? Where do you find the truth in atheism? How do you know your reasoning is valid? Could it be wrong about everything you think you know? You have a false knowledge" You know what projection is?
2019-03-18 20:43
My friend. Answer the questions. All the questions that I ask you, I can answer you for the Christian worldview. How can you answer these questions by atheism worldview? Come on, try it!
2019-03-18 20:49
Just like you with Noah, I will answer (even though you never did) on one condition: Do the only thing I have asked...show me the proof, not words from a book, not made up scenarios about a dead girl...proof.
2019-03-18 20:50
"How do you know what's true? Where do you find the truth in atheism? How do you know your reasoning is valid? Could it be wrong about everything you think you know?
2019-03-18 20:49
projection
2019-03-18 20:50
What does projection mean?
2019-03-18 20:52
hahah
2019-03-18 20:54
#208 Let me explain to you better what I'm trying to ask you : You're a random cosmic accident, your thoughts are products of a random evolution, his ancestor was an amoeba. How do you know that your reasoning and senses are valid? 1 - If you answer a circular argument "I know my reason is valid because my reason is valid" It will be an idiotic argument, because you know that you do not know all things, and what you do not know can contradict what you think you know . 2- If you respond that validates your reasoning through other people, you will be ask others descendants of randomly evolved amoebas, assuming their reasoning and sense are valid. How can you know this if you do not know that your own sense and reasoning are valid? It's illogical! 3- And you would anyway have to use your reason and sense to interpret what they are telling you, then you still have to solve this problem: How can you know that your sense and reasoning are valid? If everyone said that the earth is flat, then would it be flat? Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? 4 - The only person who can validate your reasoning has to be infallible, incapable of making mistakes. You would have to have someone with valid reasoning to show whether yours is valid or not. But the problem is, where would you find this person? And if you find it, will it have sense and reasoning to recognize him?
2019-03-18 21:04
I know that took you a lot of time...but, show me what you are saying is true (you've failed over and over) until then stfu Love from, a child of God x
2019-03-18 21:09
say me, why in the atheist-evolutionist-materialist world somebody has some dignity, value and deserve respect and love. How some attitudes may be right or wrongif we are products of chance, mere protoplasms, descendants of amoeba without purpose, cosmetic dust. This is the same as looking at a stone and saying that the stone is worthy and deserves respect and love. With what foundation in the atheist worldview can you say that someone has value, dignity and therefore deserves love and respect?
2019-03-18 20:52
atheist = ok if that's what you're saying is true, show me the proof of it...until then I won't believe it. I can fly, but im not going to prove it to you I want you to just believe me. If you are correct and God made me, that is why I deserve love and respect because I am God's creation and who are you as a child of God to say something he has created does not deserve that? Are your feelings more than God's? "in the atheist worldview can you say that someone has value, dignity and therefore deserves love and respect?" I respect, value, love and dignify others for who and what they are as a person nothing more or less...just the core of them. That's my world view x
2019-03-18 20:58
Let me explain to you better what I'm trying to ask you : You're a random cosmic accident, your thoughts are products of a random evolution, his ancestor was an amoeba. How do you know that your reasoning and senses are valid? 1 - If you answer a circular argument "I know my reason is valid because my reason is valid" It will be an idiotic argument, because you know that you do not know all things, and what you do not know can contradict what you think you know . Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? 2- If you respond that validates your reasoning through other people, you will be ask others descendants of randomly evolved amoebas, assuming their reasoning and sense are valid. How can you know this if you do not know that your own sense and reasoning are valid? It's illogical! 3- And you would anyway have to use your reason and sense to interpret what they are telling you, then you still have to solve this problem: How can you know that your sense and reasoning are valid? If everyone said that the earth is flat, then would it be flat? Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know? 4 - The only person who can validate your reasoning has to be infallible, incapable of making mistakes. You would have to have someone with valid reasoning to show whether yours is valid or not. But the problem is, where would you find this person? And if you find it, will it have sense and reasoning to recognize him?How will you know that your senses and reasoning will be able to recognize him?
2019-03-18 21:06
Can you be wrong about everything you claim to know?
2019-03-18 21:05
This is a dilemma you must answer. I can answer easily, but what about you? Read 214 and answer me
2019-03-18 21:10
It's unlikely anyone is wrong about everything they know, you'd have to be wrong about your own name even...seems more difficult Is it possible you can be wrong and have picked the wrong religion (one that you were told to focus on because of where you live)?
2019-03-18 21:12
Atheist can not validate his reasoning. So you will find some atheists who claim to be a laboratory brain living a matrix and not knowing.
2019-03-18 21:11
No I claim you should just live your life and that the things you believe should have some proof behind them and not just require faith which is just guessing because of a lack of proof
2019-03-18 21:12
I can answer this question easily my friend, for I am created the image of God, we are alike with God in some aspects, I find the truth in His word; God knows all things infallibly and has given us a mind capable of understanding reality and His creation, that is the only reason there is a possibility of intelligible conversation between us, otherwise you will not be able to validate a single reasoning from the evolutionist atheistic worldview . That is the point, every time you talk intelligently with someone you are saying that you know that God exists, because you are using the intelligence of God, because you can not validate any of your reasoning in atheism, in the atheistic worldview you will be in an inescapable dilemma and will have to assume, that knows absolutely nothing, because in order for you to know something, you would have to know everything, but what you do not know can contradict what you think you now. That's why you did not answer the proposed dilemma. You will have a false epistomology. "I know I do not know anything"
2019-03-18 21:18
bullshit and honestly...you're so boring - you were brainwashed as a child. Evolve.
2019-03-18 21:18
Yes, my brain is washed by the word of God, and I hope yours is also removed from this mental futility
2019-03-18 21:26
No it was done by the culture you grew up in How can you know that your reasoning is valid? "Can you be wrong about everything you think you know?" no, so rare for someone to be wrong about everything they know "Where do you find truth in atheism?" I dont care about atheism, the truth in my beliefs is proof vs faith. I rely on proof, you rely on faith...faith is belief without proof and thus weaker. " Because you can not validate rationale in atheism" Sure I can, the things I have require proof not faith.
2019-03-18 21:26
You will never solve this dilemma. How can you know that your reasoning is valid? Can you be wrong about everything you think you know? Where do you find truth in atheism? What is the foundation in the atheistic worldview that man has value, dignity and therefore must be loved and respected? You can not answer any of these questions, because your worldview is false, so abandon atheism. For you to have an intelligible conversation with me, you have to smuggle the Christian worldview and use the thoughts and logic of God,even if you do not credit God for it. you know why? Because you can not validate rationale in atheism. The dilemma continues my friend.
2019-03-18 21:29
I did not ask if it's rare for people to be wrong about everything, that's a fallacy, begging the question. I asked how do you know that your reasoning and sense are valid? validate your rationality first. You can not understand proofs without first validating your reasoning, because you will not understand anything.
2019-03-18 21:29
"I asked how do you know that your reasoning and sense are valid?" My beliefs require proof, you have non and will lie to yourself and otehrs your whole life because retarded
2019-03-18 21:34
Ai ai
2019-03-18 20:42
"you have a false knowledge. How do you know what's true? How do you know your reasoning is valid? Could it be wrong about everything you think you know? You have a false knowledge" You know what projection is? edit: it's ok I copy pasted what you said before you edited it out - nice confidence in your own words
2019-03-18 20:43
#233 What you said is valid? And every time you say you can not know that your reasoning is valid. I'll ask you. Is it valid what you just stated? I have an answer in my worldview that validates the intelligibility of this conversation, knowledge and logic. Can you do it in Atheism? Can not! For your vision of the world is false. You can not know if your reasoning is valid. So you validate your own reasoning in your own reasoning? Lol The only way you know something is if you know everything, or have the revelation and a brain donated by a Person who knows everything It is impossible for the weak atheistic worldview to solve this dilemma. Because you do not have intelligibility in the atheistic world, you only contraband the thoughts and intelligence of God. You can not know anything with absolute certainty, unless you use the thoughts of God, although you do not credit God for it.
2019-03-18 21:46
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2019-03-18 21:49
How do you know your reasoning is valid? You then believe that your reasoning is valid only by faith by that you reasoning is valid, and you're criticizing my worldview? Lol Is it valid what you wrote? How do you know ?
2019-03-18 21:49
Because it's based on the fact you have no proof
2019-03-18 21:52
Is your statement valid or invalid? First show how your reasoning is valid.
2019-03-18 22:08
Exactly, my one and only request of you since the start show your reasoning is valid...prove what you're saying is true, but you couldn't
2019-03-18 22:28
You just talk to me because of my worldview, because of the Christian worldview, you can not justify an intelligible conversation in your vision of evolutionary atheist world
2019-03-18 22:09
So I don't claim atheism I just want proof Just like you, you disregard all other religions and gods but your own so you know what it is to disbelieve a god because you do it too. For the same reason you do that I do it to all of them because I was not born in your culture...but when it just comes down to culture it all falls apart
2019-03-18 22:27
And even as they refused to have God in [their] knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; Romans 1:28
2019-03-18 20:19
Man made book quotes without proof mean nothing
2019-03-18 20:27
Do you see my friend? I am telling you that the problem is your false presupposition. You are dishonest, claim to want evidence of truth, but firmly pressuposed that there is no truth, so not all the evidence in the world works for you. Therefore you will be judged by God, although knowing the truth, you preferred to reject it
2019-03-18 19:59
No, I presuppose there is truth - why would anyone presuppose there isn't truth?! But truth requires proof by definition. There is one thing you have shown me and proven to me, if your God exists it has not chosen you as someone to be able to prove they exist as you have failed to do that. At best for you that means your God does not value you, at worst it means that your God hates you and deems you unworthy. But either way you have failed them and are a failure in their eyes. ...or, humans wrote a book and the culture and environment you were born in to convinced you that it's fact not fiction.
2019-03-18 20:03
In other words, you do not find God for the same reason the criminal does not find the police. You are running away from Him, even though He has clearly revealed you and you are trying to stifle and reject all divine knowledge and therefore you are guilty
2019-03-18 19:50
He isn't clearly revealed. Show me if it's so clearly revealed where the evidence is. ..shit, show it to yourself too...not a made up story, not just words...some real proof show it to you and I where is it?
2019-03-18 19:52
I've never seen a clear proof of his existence, would you care to tell me your clear proof.
2019-03-18 19:46
#86
India h8or 
Dont believe in religions Dont be atheist Be spiritual - Hindus, Buddhists, Tao, Jains
2019-03-18 16:21
Flag checks out.
2019-03-18 16:23
TY Hard to accept, but its the ultimate truth.
2019-03-18 17:49
dude...don't your people worship cows?!
2019-03-18 19:27
#165
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Azerbaijan JohnyZade 
dont u worship tacos
2019-03-18 19:50
Mainly taco sometimes burrito
2019-03-18 19:52
We dont worship cows. Its a common misconception. However, cows are considered sacred in our culture since time immemorial. Maybe 5000 years or even older. Infact, Hinduism believes that every living being has a soul and no living creature should be harmed intentionally.
2019-03-18 21:14
I still just love there's Humans that think cows are sacred...I have no 'beef' with cows, its jsut hilarious you think they're sacred. Deer got so close and...didn't quite make the cut...lmao
2019-03-18 21:15
8000 or 10,000 years ago, when civilization first started taking shape in India, there was no technology. People were just farmers. They kept cows for milk and probably for farming. Ingenious cows in India have milk quality called A2 which is the most purest milk found in the world. The milk from the cows obviously provided lot of nutrition and people would have felt that it was as good or even better than mother's milk. Since then, the practice of respecting and considering them sacred started. And since ours is a continuous civilization, the oldest pagan culture in the world, the same practice has continued. Some of these might be facts, some may be assumption based on my experience being a Hindu. It might be hard for you to digest all that. :) But try thinking in this way, probably will help you understand.
2019-03-18 21:27
No those very simple comments aren't hard to understand, even from someone as wise as Hindu which is amazing i know. Why don't you think crocodiles are sacred? They might have survivde the KT exteinction, have decendants in your country, have insane immune systems and...theyre crocoildes dude! They've got "I roc" in their name!
2019-03-18 21:33
Its funny how people are so quick to believe a man walked on water and turned water to wine yet when you say something like " Unicorns are real " they tell you hell no even though Unicorns are more realistic than the entire Christian belief
2019-03-18 16:28
somehow i knew it was you
2019-03-18 16:31
#109
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Brazil UKita 
We are our own judges, the perception of good and bad changes as times goes by
2019-03-18 17:19
#110
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Italy InSuu 
atheism is ignorance. I myself am an agnostic
2019-03-18 17:21
What is agnosticism?
2019-03-18 17:25
#117
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Italy InSuu 
Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable. This definition can be slightly bent though.Also it doesn't have to be god it can be something else
2019-03-18 17:28
So if your view is that it is unknowable, doesnt that mean that agnosticism is by definition the acceptance of your ignorance? Sounds more like agnosticism is ignorance than atheism.
2019-03-25 13:05
#265
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Italy InSuu 
Explain the BigBang to me.Dont ask just do
2019-03-25 17:01
#269
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Italy InSuu 
this thread was created due to ignorance
2019-03-25 17:08
Agnosticism is the cowardly way to live your life
2019-03-18 17:43
Moral doesn’t exist
2019-03-18 17:23
Nothing is right. Nothing is wrong. Things happen.
2019-03-18 17:24
#122
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Sweden Dguyg 
Nobody is the judge. It is up to every individual to do what they feel like doing. As long as they are following the laws of course.
2019-03-18 17:41
#268
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Italy InSuu 
no
2019-03-25 17:07
go ahead and pray It wont change anything tho, besides you wasting time
2019-03-18 19:08
there is no such thing as right or wrong
2019-03-18 19:27
#138
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
Quoting Shakespeare: there is nothing either good or bad, thinking makes it so. Edit: with which I obviously mean: there is no judge for good or evil, only people who can give those words meaning.
2019-03-18 19:28
#144
tarik | 
Turkey Kebait 
Year is 2019, still there is so many atheists lol
2019-03-18 19:40
#160
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Azerbaijan JohnyZade 
With such name youre killing many braincells. Hell doors are open.
2019-03-18 19:49
#172
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Brazil Collee 
You can have your own opinion and judge the opinion of the others, just like they can judge yours. This is all subjective. Atheism stands for not believing in deities/gods. I don't see any relation between atheism and the main purposes of men or nature. Surely atheists opinions will diverge on these topics. The only things in common you should expect are related to god/gods existences, like not thinking a god is responsible for judging our actions, or that we exist because he/she/they want to
2019-03-18 19:55
#177
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Argentina Nawll 
The only truth is that we were born to pass our genes to the next generation and that is our purpose as a species. There is no philosophical "meaning" in life but that doesn't mean you cant find a purpose to it, whether it is spending time with your loving ones, enjoying your hobbies, learning as much as you can, etc.
2019-03-18 19:59
#195
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Ukraine ACTIONFENIX 
>>So in your worldview who is the judge who decides who is right or wrong? You and other people. But decision != truth.
2019-03-18 20:36
#197
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Turkey ChPLI 
I used to be religious and I want to believe in god; however, Atheist or religious no one is right and no side is nicer than the other. Some religious people show kindness to others and don't insult others for insulting them, there are Atheist who show kindness to others because they feel the need to show kindest without needing a reason to be. There are good people on both side as well as negative people but if you're religious don't force others to think that God is real! If you're atheist don't convince others god isn't real, no one truly knows. If we want to show that there is good in humans than we must start now whether religious or not. I'm not stating god is real or that he's not but we have one life on this earth to spend with our loved ones and others, even though I'm atheist I see no reason to wonder how the universe was made, I just want to live my life to the fullist and die with no regrets, do what you want to do with YOUR life not others, the most important person in your life is you ( unless you're religious, I'm guessing god will be the most important)?
2019-03-18 20:40
#201
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Europe md2019 
Jewish > Atheism :)
2019-03-18 20:44
To put it simple, I'm an atheist because I don't believe on the existence of any god, but it's not a conclusion based on science (or on other logical factors): I don't have faith and it's just that. I also believe that it's impossible to prove god using this own world, I like to put it like: "God can exist, there's no problem on that, but he created the world in a way that it doesn't imply him or his existence", a reason for that could be that God wants you to have faith above anything in him and, then, you would have an supernatural experience. Personally I don't have faith and can't bring myself to having it. Without offense, it's like a knowledge I have, like you thinking that God exists is a knowledge to you. Therefore, discuss and fight for the existence or non-existence of a God, for me, it's pointless.
2019-03-18 21:00
only low iq people believe in god in 2019
2019-03-18 21:12
#224
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Slovakia belgar242 
Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities....its not your world view thats different for everyone
2019-03-18 21:16
#239
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United States stephcurry30 
whoever has the most power
2019-03-18 21:59
You ask some OK questions. I´m more of a humanist, than Atheist - people can keep their religion (and other beliefs), as long as they don´t bother anyone. I beleive that Jesus did live and did say a lot of clever things, that deeply affects the values of modern humans - a lot about tolerance and caring for other people. In that sense, I believe he was more of a humanist ahead of his time, than a prophet/son of god/God. We make the meaning of our own lives. To some it is to reproduce, to some it´s to help others, to some it´s chasing and achieving personal goals. To many it´s finding true love. But most people change the purpose of their life, as their life changes. In any society there is rules. The religious rules are many centuries old and deeply outdated. Anyone whose life is guided by a 1500-3000 year old book is misguided. Especially when it comes to human rights and womens rights in particular. When society makes rules for issues like abortion, use democracy and common sense, not some old book.
2019-03-18 22:05
atheist 2k19? XD kek so much
2019-03-18 22:30
Only you can be the judge of your own worldview. So you will have to decide for yourself which of the named opinions is most reasonable, if not an entirely different one. Just like with any vaguely deep question -.-
2019-03-18 22:40
another braindead monkey thread 0/8
2019-03-19 04:53
#254
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United Kingdom ban66 
tfw argues for God because he can't handle someone not being there to tell you what's right and wrong. Maybe bait, but flag checks out.
2019-03-20 11:23
Dude, you attribute to atheists the same qualities that religion has. In religion, there are Catholics who do not consider the main goal to multiply, but live mainly for themselves. There are Muslims who believe their purpose is to produce offspring, to the glory of his religion, and the murder of an unbeliever for them is not considered sin. You know what I'm saying? For atheists there is no judge who decides what is right as well as for believers. Only the person and his environment can evaluate the correctness of actions and behavior.
2019-03-20 12:04
#262
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Brazil FERRAZ4tw 
Open your mind. Try it to think for yourself. Atheist does not need to prove anything for religious people or whoever. Live and let die, boy. "There are atheists who say that the main purpose of man is to survive and reproduce." This is so stupid.. I have been trying to say something about that for a while and I can`t. Please, do a favor to you and everyone here, stop acting like someone from the middle ages.
2019-03-25 15:13
no one, mr. 12 iq
2019-03-25 15:15
#264
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Brazil Nickzim 
Just do whatever you want without harming other people or living creatures that can process pain.
2019-03-25 15:17
God is santa clause for grown ups.
2019-03-25 17:02
there are also people who literally do not give a fuck about anything and just do their thing. i like to put myself with those people
2019-03-25 17:03
morality. The reason why u ask such a question about religion just shows how incapable brazilians are of actually using their intelligence to come up with thoughtful answers.
2019-04-01 11:48
#274
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Finland James Nelson 
atheist = boring , they think they start living because of good luck, haha enjoy pain after die, thank RA for having me
2019-04-01 11:51
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