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Swedens only hope?
f0rest | 
Lithuania no_report_pls 
Sure, NiP at there best looking in the past 3 years, but still not enough for wining titles, fnatic is honestly a mess, So I wanna discuss, what player would be in a Swedens dream team? My roster: REZ - Entry, young with great potential, and is insane already. f0rest - 2nd Entry, rifler, God himself, un-aging ledend. KRIMZ - Support , the only player from fnatic that you can count on. Flusha - Lurk and IGL, ik he's on a break, but he will comeback no wonder, Senor Vac still is a beast, and has to be on this team imo. Draken? / nawwk? / JW? - AWP, im actually not sure, nawwk is inexperienced and hasn't proven himself that he can play at the top, Draken is a big risk because of his attitude and playstyle and finally JW, who is in a big slump, but performing average atm vs mouz. Feel free to post ur rosters or comment about mine, cya.
2019-03-18 23:07
Flusha and krimz to nip for Dennis and bot right
2019-03-18 23:09
#3
GeT_RiGhT | 
Macedonia FallY 
that is the cruel truth but you have to give him all the respect, everything he has done for the game(speaking for get right) and yeah -dennis
2019-03-18 23:14
As much i want to disagree, but i have to aswell.
2019-03-18 23:15
no i think Krimz and Brollan to nip would be better, but i want draken on the roster aswellso probably Krimz and Draken for Get_RiGhT and dennis
2019-03-19 08:10
well that nip has no true lurk, and player playing new roles for them is never good, so flusha would be a good pick instead of gtr, ik gtr doesn't lurk that much anymore, but it is still needed
2019-03-19 08:12
Awper more important than lurk, we rarely see lurkers actually lurk anymore. But with Draken NiP would have an awper.
2019-03-19 08:16
Draken is cancer. Kick him ASAP.
2019-03-19 08:43
We'll have to wait three years for that.
2019-03-19 12:53
-draken +twist
2019-03-18 23:12
#7
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Sweden Trkmag 
draken > twist
2019-03-18 23:15
nt draken
2019-03-18 23:17
#13
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Sweden Trkmag 
nt tseries
2019-03-18 23:19
nt IKEA
2019-03-18 23:20
nt forsaken
2019-03-18 23:21
nt espiranto
2019-03-18 23:22
no ty, rather be known from nukkye, not that toxic kiddo
2019-03-18 23:23
suit yourself bro
2019-03-18 23:23
#68
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Austria epiXYZ 
draken>nawwk>jw>top100faceitAwper>twist
2019-03-19 12:51
the guy is under xizt what's he gonna do
2019-03-19 15:53
#53
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Sweden Lagge15 
Lol
2019-03-19 08:17
Nawwk > Draken
2019-03-19 08:43
#84
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Sweden Trkmag 
Not impossible, hard to know until nawwk gets a chance at T1
2019-03-19 18:01
#4
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Pakistan XtraticX 
I'm fan of swedish CS but now it look like they done. No swedish team in top 5 right now
2019-03-18 23:14
#54
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Sweden Lagge15 
Wait a week and you'kl most likely see NiP in top5
2019-03-19 08:18
#61
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Hopefully
2019-03-19 09:42
So unless you're not top 5 you should quit being a pro? XD kkkkkkk
2019-03-19 08:44
#62
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Pakistan XtraticX 
I'm not a pro. Fnatic's bots are pro.
2019-03-19 09:48
#6
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Sweden Trkmag 
REZ f0rest KRiMZ draken flusha sounds reasonable yes if flusha can IGL, if not maybe Golden instead?
2019-03-18 23:15
well flusha IGLed at the major for c9, and they looked pretty solid
2019-03-18 23:17
+1 Get right is done already
2019-03-19 00:32
#63
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Golden instead of draken
2019-03-19 09:51
#85
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Sweden Trkmag 
AWP is important as fuck and draken is really good
2019-03-19 18:01
#87
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Pakistan XtraticX 
f0rest is good in AWP. draken misses shot and team lost round
2019-03-19 18:08
RIP
2019-03-18 23:17
#11
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Russia SP3C73R 
Golden nawwk f0rest REZ KRiMZ
2019-03-18 23:18
Lurk?
2019-03-18 23:36
#77
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France DirtyPerez 
-REZ (love him but you gotta make choices) +Flusha
2019-03-19 17:00
NIP is doing just fine - they'll be a top5 contender for sure
2019-03-18 23:19
disband swedish CS is dead (like br CS)
2019-03-18 23:19
#83
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Indonesia Razerzer0 
The only scene that isn't dead is Danish CS
2019-03-19 17:10
-draken for sure, when he's playing well he can compete with most awpers in the world. But draken is to unstable, his level of play is so inconsistent. And when he plays bad he's not even on semi pro level.
2019-03-18 23:19
brollan twist krimz flusha/golden REZ
2019-03-18 23:22
#22
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
Xizt (Support) Pronax (Support) Golden (IGL / Entry) Get_Right (Lurker) Znajder (AWPer)
2019-03-18 23:24
LMAO xddd
2019-03-18 23:26
ez bots
2019-03-18 23:27
Sorry, but this team would only be TOP2, my team TOP1.
2019-03-18 23:27
#64
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Pakistan XtraticX 
You mean 3 IGL in a team
2019-03-19 09:53
f0rest REZ GeT_RiGhT lekr0 draken EZ <3
2019-03-18 23:26
#28
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Denmark shaekbye 
lekro for the 5th. and its sick i guess
2019-03-18 23:30
could be an option too, noticing that NiP, Liquid and other teams are doing fine without a dedicated awper
2019-03-18 23:31
#31
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Denmark shaekbye 
yes seems like, they nearly won against astralis on awp2
2019-03-18 23:41
Señor VAC will save sweden Imagine making a swedish superteam and not having the best swedish player
2019-03-19 00:03
f0rest, krimz and flusha is a must need
2019-03-19 07:50
Getright Forest Lekro Krimz Golden * didn't add flusha because he's currently taking an extended break from cs * If flusha comes back, we'll replace getright
2019-03-19 02:32
Could work aswell, because this has a true IGL and teams without true awpers are not that strange anymore, works almost as well as others.
2019-03-19 07:50
guys...no NiP player is good enough to be on swedens superteam
2019-03-19 07:52
So who is better rn than f0rest in the Swedish scene? REZ and Lekr0 also on the top 10 of the scenes best players also
2019-03-19 07:54
Pronax obviously. no joke mens
2019-03-19 07:56
well i would say he's top2 player in sweden, maybe top1, but there is still places for these players to be at the top10 right?
2019-03-19 07:57
I dont know, i dont watch csgo anymore lmao, they added way too many tournaments. I liked it way better when it was 3-4 majors a year without all the minors and shit
2019-03-19 07:58
Well the minors were always there, but the amount of good teams made even the EU minors look like a t2 tournament aswell
2019-03-19 07:59
okay nvm I overrated twist too much but I would still not take him since I have serious doubt about his motivation swedish top 10 players arent enough for the swedish superteam
2019-03-19 08:08
Jimmy Åkesson is swedens only hope [*]
2019-03-19 07:54
swedish cs died with 1.6
2019-03-19 07:57
2016*
2019-03-19 07:58
it really sucks sweden has no igls xizt is mediocre lekro ? lul just played with pronax and pretend hes good at calling golden - honestly the best sweden igl rn, but some team are just stupid to sign him (nip stupid) freddieb/hampus - omegalul igls but if anything id really like to see this roster golden - igl obv krimz olof/forest rez nawwk - give him a chance, hes very talented
2019-03-19 08:00
a promising team aswell, but i wouldn't even consider taking olof, and nawwk is a risk, but he needs a chance i agree, im also intrested how would lekro perform now without the igl role.
2019-03-19 08:02
#48
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Sweden ScineLy1 
Golden ( there is no other igl's ) Lekr0 flusha krimz olof
2019-03-19 08:06
-flusha. + GTR -DRAKEN +OLOF. (2ND change is risky coz the roles dont match up)
2019-03-19 08:23
Get GTR off the scene and it will rise on its own slowly.
2019-03-19 08:47
#60
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Syria Asiimov 
+1 i dont understand what GTR brings to NiP... He has been washed up since like 2015 yet players like draken, allu and friberg got kicked before him
2019-03-19 08:50
It is litterally a mystery why the Organization still keeps him.
2019-03-19 12:00
Brand Name Unmatched Work Ethic, things like he does a LOT of demo viewing and it isn't unlikely that he helps Lekr0 develop starts or at least be more aware of things for a matchup Good Support Player, he plays for information and to be a support and it works well. If they removed GeT_RiGhT they'd become a lot more exploitable. I don't get why you guys give him so much shit, there's more to a player than getting kills, both in and outside of the server.
2019-03-19 16:03
GTR is doing better than dennis and at least as good as Lekr0 if you consider their roles. f0rest REZ draken best players
2019-03-20 16:19
flusha f0rest lekr0 draken REZ Sorry GeT_RiGhT, but it's time to move along.
2019-03-19 09:57
Remove GeT_RiGhT for another rifle and the entire team can be exploited a lot more, he plays a real good supportive and information-gathering role.
2019-03-19 15:59
Flusha is better than GeT_RiGhT in every possible aspect.
2019-03-19 17:03
I'll kindly disagree with you. GeT_RiGhT has better chemistry with the existing team, he has an incredible work ethic, it's not much of a stretch to assume with how much demo viewing he does that he is a big help to Lekr0 as an IGL, He plays a real good support and a real good lurk if need be. I think Flusha is a fantastic player don't get me wrong but, try and understand removing a support from a team for a rifle (Let alone one that plays an important role in many things) only results in shit for the team. SK experienced it, mousesports experienced it, and many more teams in the future will experience it too.
2019-03-19 20:37
Chemistry and work ethic is something that pretty much any player can improve and work on. And there's nothing that says that flusha won't get along with the other players, or that he does have a poor work ethic. Rather the opposite. Keeping a player that can't pull his weight because he's friends with the other players is just dumb from a performance perspective. Like I said, flusha can literally do everything that GeT_RiGhT can, but only better. And has proven him self over and over again, while GeT_RiGhT pretty much has been MIA since 2015.
2019-03-20 11:10
That is the problem. You have theoreticals, sure hes flusha COULD dedicate the time and effort GeT_RiGhT does in (He doesn't, never has, and likely never will.). Everyone goes on and on about GeT_RiGhT not being there as a player, tell me why do f0rest and GeT_RiGhT have such close ratings, but one is considered a god of CS still, and yet the other is considered dead and a bad player. I'll be frank you're absolutely ridiculous, flusha cannot lurk like GeT_RiGhT does, it requires a different way of thinking than how flusha plays. He COULD, but he's more than likely not going to and doesn't want to.
2019-03-20 12:13
You don't even have theoreticals. You just assume that GeT_RiGhT has better work ethic and chemistry than flusha will have. Literally nothing that backs that up. The facts are that flusha isa statistically better player in every single aspect of the game. That he's the highest ranked swedish player in majors of all time (5th highest overall) and that he has proven that he can do everything from being a star player to a lurker, which he was in previous iterations of the fnatic rosters he was a part of.
2019-03-20 14:43
Then there's an option of not having an awper and just removing dennis/draken for flusha, flusha lurks, gtr fully supports, + SWE doesn't have a top10 awper anymore, and teams without dedicated awpers are doing fine these days.
2019-03-20 14:47
Chemistry is self-explanatory. He's been working well with the other members and they're friends. You have better chemistry with someone you know better (Lekr0 is the only player who has played with Flusha on a team before.) Work Ethic, take simply the comments of people over the years and even now, he's always been praised for his work ethic and still does a lot even currently (or so we're told). Stats don't mean everything, TACO had shit stats but the moment he left the entire SK lineup fell off a good level. They never really got back to that level until they got the damn guy back. It's a good example, STYKO as well being removed for 'not doing enough' then the team falling back a level with a clutch but somewhat fluke victory at ESL NY without him (Not saying they didn't play well or didn't deserve, but they overperformed and it didn't match future results). If anything there's a lot that tells me that GeT_RiGhT should probably stay. This meta nearly requires someone with a good work ethic and is smart with the game. Even if they are not IGL they need to be able to support teammates properly and help the IGL if they aren't already it. I'm not trying to say Flusha isn't a better player, but GeT_RiGhT is the better fit for NiP of the two.
2019-03-20 15:11
You don't measure how good a team is by how good friends the players are. SK had one of the most impressive runs in CS:GO history while it was widely knows that some of the players couldn't stand each other. Just look at the complete disaster that happened when fnatic ruined their most successful rosters ever to build a team where they were they felt great chemistry. Let's just focus at the facts instead, and stop talking about subjective bullshit where we guess how players are personally, and what impact we think they had on specific teams and specific periods of time. That's completely irrelevant and subjective. GeT_RiGhT is obviously not getting any better or younger, and is the weakest link in NiP at the moment. If someone has to go it's obviously him.
2019-03-20 15:53
Let's just cut an important part of the conversation? There is more to some players than what they bring just in fragging. Flusha is by far a better framer and always has had better aim than GeT_RIGhT. That still doesn't mean he'd be a fit for the team, and I don't guess either I stay up to date in the NiP discord (3rd most active user) and I watch or read the majority of interviews with players. It is really not hard to piece together a better picture of it. It's just like what people think of Fifflaren back then, everyone called for his removal for ages, but they kept him in because he was playing an important role and helped the morale of the team amongst other things. This argument is very subjective in general, I mean who is to say that GeT_RiGhT isn't a better lurker or support player or which brings more to the team? It's all subjective, I don't think NiP need any changes at the moment and I think GeT_RiGhT brings more to the team than flusha will, you think the opposite. Let's just agree to disagree?
2019-03-20 16:03
Feels like we're not getting anywhere here. But regarding your Fifflaren argument. To me it got pretty obvious that he wasn't good enough when the other teams started to catch up. NiP was the best because they got a head start and invested more time than everybody else in the scene at the time. Not because they had the best chemistry. On the contrary. Fifflaren was actually really good, and performed well statistically in the first one or two years, mostly because the team destroyed any opponent they faced. Fifflaren was a star player in CS:S after all, but it got pretty obvious that he didn't had what it takes to compete with the best in the end. Let's agree to disagree, have a nice one!
2019-03-20 16:59
You too, thanks for not dragging an argument into the dirt like what usually happens
2019-03-20 17:03
There is no hope
2019-03-19 12:36
If we're talking about teams that could reasonably happen? Lekr0 f0rest REZ GeT_RiGhT nawwk/draken/Maikelele Fnatic players aren't likely to be picked up, and NiP's biggest weakness is their lack of a proper AWP. If they get an AWP and just let them play a more star-like role they'll be golden. The only real player you'd be missing here is Krimz which again as I said just won't happen.
2019-03-19 15:57
well i think Rez f0rest krimz should be in same team and then lekr0/golden as igl and naawk/draken awp
2019-03-19 16:56
naawk is best swe awper atm but as u say not enough experiance and have not faced off with the top awpers yet. if he stick to awp and just a few positions on eache map and lern to play them in diffrent scenarions he will be one of the top 5 awpers soon.
2019-03-19 17:04
#75
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Sweden DanzigOrWar 
swedens only hope is AFS
2019-03-19 16:57
I thought this thread was going to be about some political shit lul
2019-03-19 16:58
just replace Xizt with anyone boom problem solved
2019-03-19 17:01
Anybody really analyzing rez's game play?? He is definitely not a T1 material. Any team with jw & flusha will never achieve anything now coz of past glory & ego, yes flusha is still a super player.
2019-03-19 17:02
#82
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Vietnam comergod1 
flusha KRIMZ REZ JW Stewie2K
2019-03-19 17:07
-jw +autimatic
2019-03-19 18:10
#86
Sweden kMh- 
krimz brollan jw flusha nawwk
2019-03-19 18:03
Sweden's only hope is Pewdiepie
2019-03-20 12:15
#96
Sweden ZAE^ 
REZ F0rest Disco DoplaN Flusha KRIMZ
2019-03-20 15:15
#97
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Indonesia zzk29 
Just bring back early 2018 fnatic and boom you have the best team in sweden
2019-03-20 15:30
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