only Astralis is tier1 team
Yes I do think so but still they need to beat Astra in 2k19
In theory, all the top10 teams are tier 1.
yes, T1 right now is Astralis/Liquid/Na'vi/mibr/FaZe/NiP
nip can have a close match against liquid and navi and can beat any team below them (except mibr for some reason) but they're not completely tier 1 as they struggle to get to double digits against astralis sadly, so no. they're one of the better tier 2 teams though
close but not yet. If they adjust the roster a bit they would become T1. For example -dennis permanent and +nawwk/drakeN. Also I would -Get Right and +flusha
I think this could be the moves to have a really good NiP again.
In terms of firepower no. But indeed t1 overall.
NiP fan but they are T2. Don't have the consistency for T1 and need to beat T1 teams more often.
Astralis, Liquid, navi tier 1, then there's like 10 tier 2 teams
Following their 2-1 win against Faze I would say yes (if you consider Faze a t1 Team)
But astralis is so far ahead, they are an own tier, like Tier 0.5 or so.
It depends on your definition of Tiers.
It's a very flawed topic that varies from user to user. Myself? I consider Tiers in higher and lower forms, with a high Tier 1 being the tip top of the crop with teams like Astralis, Liquid, Na'Vi, etc. I'm an NiP fan so I am biased but I rank them at this level, around the 6th place mark in the current. I consider Tier 1 to span down to teams that play the best quality of Counter-Strike as well. You'd probably get as low as #13 before I start backing up towards higher Tier 2.
High Tier 2 is what teams like G2 or Windigo are playing, games that can be top in the future, but that need refinement or time. Generally this is still a very entertaining level and you can expect this level of team to be able to upset even into Tier 1 teams.
I don't think I need to paint a larger picture you likely get the point already. The idea of 'tier' differs from person to person, I know some who consider Astralis to be the only Tier 1 team because they're on a different level a lot of the time, I know users who stretch their Tier 1 teams into the first 20 teams (I used to do something like that before refining a bit), and hell I even know users who base their tiers off of if a team can counter the best team and entirely around that idea (I mean it puzzles me because this is CS, not SSB, but you get the point, a lot of variety).
If you're asking whether NiP are a good team, one of the better in the world, as a fan I'll say yes. They're a skilled lineup with REZ, f0rest, Lekr0, and now draken, with decent supportive elements from GeT_RiGhT alone. They lack a truly proper style similar to Na'Vi yet have the reputation for being able to (normally) grind out at least a single map of the best kind of Counter-Strike in a BO3 like MIBR is infamous for, I think NiP are almost like a gateway into the top of Tier 1.
While I think they could be greater and win events, I think currently they oddly resemble the role Virtus.pro used to take in the scene.
I think astralis, navi, liquid, faze and mibr are tier 1
Ence, nip, vitality, c9, nrg, fnatic, avangar, big etc. are tier 2
they are on the verge of tier 1. Maybe in the next tournaments if they step up, we could classify them as tier 1.
Yes they are. The scene would not be the same without them. They might not be the flashiest team everytime but they play their hearts out and pull some great matches out of their sleeve.
Yeah i agree with NiP being T1.5, they are not quite yet a T1 team, but i would not consider them T2
Still, Tiers are really subjective
Only S1mple is a tier 1 team
Yes. They take part in tier1 competitions.
They are supposed to be a tier1 team . but they are not
They are not even at the top of tier 2. I only see Astralis, Liquid and Navi as tier 1
Not atm, if they get draken and flusha/hampus/Golden for dennis and Lekr0 then yes
They haven't been a tier 1 team for probably 5 years now
Sorry..but its the truth
hltv top10 -> tier 1
hltv top20 -> tier 2
and so on
On a good day they can beat any other team (maybe except Astralis since nobody beats them atm) but on a bad day they lose T4-5 teams. I think thats too unstable to really call them a T1 team
Also i dont really see a good structure, its mostly just forest or rez carrying the shit out of the rest, if thats not happening -> lose to T4
They're easily top 10. But idk how you define it. Everyone has their own metric.
cs scene in limbo sans astralis
Nip are definately a tier 1 team
nip need new young players like nawwk plopski hampus and others imho in the end of this year will be roster changes
they are in transition, they can prove that they belong to t1(2) if the play good at Blast Pro
Tier 2 for sure, just waiting for f0rest and get_right to retire then will be competitive again
Yeah id call NiP and tier one team, but a lesser tier one team.
The best in the world cant afford to them lightly, it doesnt matter who you are, you cant sleep against NiP as they have some great skill on their team.
top 1 after they win blast madrid and sao paulo
Depends on how you define tier 1.
Right now there is only 3 teams that you can safely say are definitively better than NiP those being Astralis, NaVi and Liquid. You can make a case for MiBR but really they haven't proven themselves yet with this lineup.
Faze are not clearly better than NiP, you can make the case that they are better sure and i'd be inclined to agree even though im a NiP fan but when an argument and case is needed as to whos better then its not clear.
In my opinion it goes like this
Tier 1 - Astralis, Liquid, NaVi.
Tier 2 - Faze, MiBR, NiP, NRG, ENCE, Renegades maybe
Tier 3 and below is a shit show of instability especially right now in the player swapping season.
they are tier1 2-3 months an year
NiP never has, and never will, be a tier 1 team.
T1 teams = attending in 90% big lans
Astralis Liquid NaVi FaZe MIBR
T1.5 teams = ENCE, Vitality, NRG, NiP etc
They are either the worst t1 or the best t2 team.
NIP always have the chance for a upset against any t1 team but also just lose quite often to teams they should beat easily
Imo tier 1 teams are teams that can go to finals and beat each other I only see Astralis NaVi and Liquid doing this, they can go to finals consistently and beat each other but ofc with Astralis supremacy.
Ofc I'm talking about global CS because if we want to separate Tier 1 CS in NA and EU there will be other criteria.
Tier 1 teams are teams that are invited to tier 1 events. Depending on if the invite isn't because of a regional event, like how G2 will get invited to Marseille even though they are shit at the moment( but will be better by the end of the year for sure.