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blast = worst format?
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Europe francesc0 
srsly no excuses for any teams for losing bo1s but come on, 2 days and so many of them played nearly in a row. 3 bo1s and 1 bo3 grand final, they should at least split the schedule for more days
2019-03-23 00:11
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Denmark BRCSLUL 
Blast was always a shit *format with upsets
2019-03-23 00:13
#9
Pogba | 
Europe francesc0 
+1 only 1st one was good, maybe the delays actually caused it
2019-03-23 00:12
#35
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Germany Fabbsen 
The first one was hype and good matches but it was all in one day. I mean an entire tourney in one day. I actually liked all Blasts so far eventho the format can be random. And there's only one BO3. I would prefer the 1st Place to go to the final, and a Semi between 2nd and 3rd. And the 4th can choose between the remaining two teams for the Stand-Off. Means more BO3 and a better chance for the teams to win the tourney.
2019-03-23 00:22
#48
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Europe keNLey94 
games are bo1 or bo3 and sometimes a final bo5 so why should this event be worst than others? come on watch and enjoy instead of wasting time in here
2019-03-23 00:32
#54
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Finland Jansk1h 
Because this format is fucking terrible and Blast are a fucking joke?
2019-03-23 00:46
#91
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Europe keNLey94 
explain? you just says it's a joke how? so ESEA MDL? esl pro league which is bo1 aswell so it's a joke aswell?
2019-03-23 01:40
#94
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Finland Jansk1h 
Does ESEA also have sudden death 1v1 aim duels in case of a tie? Does ESEA also have no overtimes which means that you have to win every map in regulation? Yeah didn't think so either
2019-03-23 01:43
#100
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Europe keNLey94 
except the overtime then it's the same this is group stage so overtime should only be in playoffs which it is on blast, and the rest you said it's a proffesional event so bo1 bo3 bo5 it doesn't really matter you play for one thing in csgo and that is winning so winning 16 rounds in bo1 or 32 in bo3 doesn't really matter at all so please what your saying is ridicilous
2019-03-23 01:47
#103
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Finland Jansk1h 
I literally don't understand a word you're saying. You're writing like a fucking retard. Go learn english and come back when you can form a coherent sentence.
2019-03-23 01:49
#107
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Europe keNLey94 
xD sure you don't understand me, let me quess is that because you don't have a reply? or just an idiot who keep saying dumb thinks all the time on internet?
2019-03-23 01:52
#109
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Finland Jansk1h 
I don't understand you because your post makes no sense and is terribly written. Try writing in comprehendable sentences next time.
2019-03-23 01:54
#111
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Europe keNLey94 
If you litterly can't make any sense out of my words. I think you have a terrible format since my words maybe need a little changing but not alot. And all i asked for you was to explain yourself, I never asked for a internet fight so please
2019-03-23 01:58
#114
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Finland Jansk1h 
Why the fuck should I explain myself to an absolute cretin that can't even form a basic sentence correctly.
2019-03-23 02:01
#140
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Europe keNLey94 
course you decided to comment in here :)?
2019-03-26 20:21
lmao are u having a stroke mate?
2019-03-23 02:49
#10
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Denmark mindgames 
Kind of agree. Not a shit tournament but surely a bad format.
2019-03-23 00:12
#15
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Denmark BRCSLUL 
yeah i mean the format my bad, the tournament and org is great.
2019-03-23 00:13
#68
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Finland Jansk1h 
LUL. Can't wait for REFRESH to run out of VC money and fall flat on their face. Terrible company lmao
2019-03-23 01:12
yeah I love the production as well, but they should do something with the format, I don't like having 3 games simultaneously mostly
2019-03-23 00:14
#58
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Finland Jansk1h 
Exactly. This guy gets it.
2019-03-23 01:01
#2
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United States BubbleFlameszz 
It's unique
2019-03-23 00:11
unique = shit deal with it
2019-03-23 00:12
#16
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Finland Jansk1h 
This doesn't mean it's good.
2019-03-23 00:13
no ? they are doing something differnet and challenging the teams to prep different and play different. this is good change imo.
2019-03-23 00:12
+1
2019-03-23 00:12
#21
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Finland Jansk1h 
Just because it's different doesn't mean it's good. It's terrible for viewers and for competitive play. I hope this format will not catch on and will stay as a gimmick that Blast does to stay relevant.
2019-03-23 00:15
Just because its different it doesnt mean its bad. i just ruined your logic idiot
2019-03-23 00:17
I dont want this format to spread all around either but its good change and challenge to teams. I prefer the normal formats and tournaments but something like blast just has to happen here and there. Its good for the scene.
2019-03-23 00:21
What? Why is it terrible for viewers? I would argue its the absolute opposite instead, RFRSH are trying to make it more mainstream, and watching a lot of BO3 and/or BO5 games is not viewer friendly.
2019-03-23 00:21
#42
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Finland 7ones 
+1 Totally with you on this one. Lots of games in a row, doesnt take weeks and a little randomness is also a benefit imo. So cheers.
2019-03-23 00:27
#50
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Finland Jansk1h 
I like the fact that they host events in places like Istanbul and Sao Paolo and that they have a pretty decent looking production. (WHEN IT WORKS) but I don't like anything else about it. Splitting the games over 3 streams is retarded. The format is terrible and bad for competitive play- All bo1s, back to back makes for sloppy games and creates fake upsets. I get that the casual retard loves this but for me it's horrible. I just don't get the format at all. It doesn't really even benefit anything. All it does is split the viewerbase and it complicates production. There's never been a Blast that has gone without any issues. Some stream always goes down or goes without audio. I don't get how anyone can actually defend this format lmao :D
2019-03-23 00:40
I agree about it not being perfect, but new formats are needed to make esports get as big as i think we all would like to see.
2019-03-23 01:44
#98
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Finland Jansk1h 
Yeah and I think IEM Katowice set the gold standard for esports tournaments world wide. Blast on the other hand can just fuck off
2019-03-23 01:46
#59
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Finland Jansk1h 
But flip flopping between 3 streams of which 2 have audio issues is viewer friendly? Sure m8 :D
2019-03-23 01:03
Nah of course not, but I would expect that it gets less and less issues like that, with each event. So lets see past any technical issues and focus on the format instead. Having three streams that are nicely named and being able to switch between them is pretty nice actually. btw, astralis just won their game against ence... :D
2019-03-23 01:49
#106
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Finland Jansk1h 
These problems have been going on in every fucking Blast event, and it's always the same shit. Terrible format, terrible company >btw, astralis just won their game against ence... :D and? 14 rounds against a major winner is a good accomplishment.
2019-03-23 01:52
Terrible? That seems a bit harsh. I agree.
2019-03-23 02:12
+11
2019-03-23 00:17
doesnt change the fact that you cant watch 3 games at the same time, its fucking annoying
2019-03-23 00:22
pick the one you like the most, i know it sucks but
2019-03-23 00:24
thats the point, it sucks
2019-03-23 00:29
fucking life sucks... you gotta pick the stuff you like most all the time... its called life, deal with it...
2019-03-23 00:30
#60
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Finland Jansk1h 
This is a terrible way of justfifying anything
2019-03-23 01:04
Deal with it... Thats life... Do prove me wrong lol.
2019-03-23 01:05
#65
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Finland Jansk1h 
Let's not improve anything, lets not complain if anything sucks, just drone on like a fucking automaton and sit in quiet desperation. Thats life. Prove me wrong lol
2019-03-23 01:11
+1 that guy is a massive lowlife
2019-03-23 01:16
imagine trying to find how h2o works... JUST DO IT LOL HAHA THATS LIFE... fuck off.
2019-03-23 01:17
#75
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Finland Jansk1h 
wtf are you even sayig, how does this relate to anything? Vittu mikä vammanen...
2019-03-23 01:21
Lue alkuun asti... saatat ymmärtää jos kävit koulus.
2019-03-23 01:26
#78
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Finland Jansk1h 
Ei oo mitää muuta ymmärrettävää ku että oot vitun vammanen
2019-03-23 01:26
perus argumentti kun ei enää riitä oikeet argumentit.
2019-03-23 01:29
#83
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Finland Jansk1h 
Sähän se olit jolla ei ollu mitään argumentteja :D Hyvä formaatti :D ei mitää vikaa :D älä kato jos et tykkää :D Missä tässä sun vammasen pääs sanaripulissa oli joku oikea argumentti?
2019-03-23 01:35
#115
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Finland 7ones 
Kotona kannattaa vielä kasvaa. Tollanen kuumeneminen ei kyllä yhtään Janski lisää sun vakuuttavuutta - vaan päin vastoin. Taitaa olla videopelit vähän liian iso osa elämää siellä. Kyl varmasti isot massat tykkää tälläsestä formaatista. Yhden kartan matsit on hyviä pikku makupaloja, joissa ei koko iltaa mene (y)
2019-03-23 02:08
#118
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Finland Jansk1h 
Ja painu sinäkin vittuun siitä projisoimasta. Ja kun kerran otit itse turnauksen puheeksi, niin kyse ei ole pelkästään noista bo1 matseista vaan turnauksen jakamisesta 3 streamiin, surkeasta round robin järjestelmästä ja tiebreakkereiden ratkaisusta 1v1 aim dueleilla. yms yms. Mut joo vitun hyvä formaatti
2019-03-23 02:22
its good format wtf
2019-03-23 00:12
#51
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Finland Jansk1h 
What's good about it? I can't find anything good about it
2019-03-23 00:41
how? Having 6 Top 8 teams play simultaneously seems like a waste of good content. I'm not one to watch vods so I will always miss most of two matches.
2019-03-23 01:47
#124
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United Kingdom Johal 
scheduling doesnt equal format
2019-03-23 02:55
you are right. I was thinking about the scheduling not the format. Round robin, however, is not great either imo, but if you want a short and action packed tournament you'll have to make sacrifices somewhere.
2019-03-23 03:03
#131
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United Kingdom Johal 
yeah, round robin works, just not with a short tournament, long week long tournaments that use the round robin as seeding is the only way it works properly
2019-03-23 03:06
I really like blast format, it's faster
2019-03-23 00:12
#52
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Finland Jansk1h 
why is it a good thing? They could play all the games in 2 days with 1 stream if they'd get rid of the pointless show match that fucking nobody cares to watch
2019-03-23 00:44
#125
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United Kingdom Johal 
nah, the showmatch is 20 minutes long, the showmatch doesnt slow it down at all, and alot of people enjoy the showmatch
2019-03-23 02:56
#7
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Sweden flippig 
agree this is the worst format imo
2019-03-23 00:12
#8
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Denmark ennec2107 
bad format for viewing experience, good format for the players.
2019-03-23 00:12
tbh I don't think 4 games played one day is a good format for the players..
2019-03-23 00:13
4 bo1's, who cares. This is nothing different for players than playing one Bo3
2019-03-23 00:16
#53
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Finland Jansk1h 
This is just not true at all lmao :D
2019-03-23 00:45
no overtime's, longer breaks between games
2019-03-23 00:46
#56
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Finland Jansk1h 
But in a bo3 you can start to pick up player tendencies and you get a feel of the opponent. You've also had a chance to scout the opponent better and you don't have to remember the scouting info for 15 players. Only good thing is no overtimes, but that just means you're not gonna make it to playoffs if you don't manage to win in regulation
2019-03-23 00:51
it's easier than one bo3
2019-03-23 00:18
#31
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Denmark ennec2107 
Think that through again and then let me know if you still think 4 bo1's isnt a better format.
2019-03-23 00:21
#62
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Finland Jansk1h 
Id rather play 2 bo3s than 4 bo1s any day. I have to remember the scouting info for only 2 teams, and I can practice and prepare for the maps better. Literally no contest
2019-03-23 01:06
#67
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Germany Roflcopter234 
they know their details about every team, doesnt matter for them
2019-03-23 01:12
#70
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Finland Jansk1h 
You must be retarded if you actually think that
2019-03-23 01:13
#72
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Germany Roflcopter234 
its not like they study other teams till 5am in the morning. The teams prepare before they tournament and they actually have a brain. 99% of the work is done pretournament
2019-03-23 01:17
#74
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Finland Jansk1h 
Yes, and what's your point? It's easier to remember scouting info for 2 teams than remembering it for 4 teams. The brain has limited capacity so you can't remember all the info for all the teams. You also can't pick up on player tendencies the same way you can with bo3s
2019-03-23 01:20
#77
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Germany Roflcopter234 
they dont pick player tendencies up mid game. They know them before and 2 months after the games. thorin and moses once did a podcast with glaive and karrigan and they could talk about each others tactics very detailed. karrigan for example explained a situation where he antistrated astralis and that was weeks after the tournament. you can hear that in other podcasts with pros or ex-pros, too. They remember those things years long, cause its their job. construction workers dont need to learn how to build a house for every house they build. They learn it and dont forget it. Some things might change, but thats why teams are praccing
2019-03-23 01:26
#82
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Finland Jansk1h 
>they dont pick player tendencies up mid game. This is just straight up wrong lmao. Yes they scout the opponent before hand but things can change during the game and a major part of the game is actually the small adjustments teams make during the game. Your parable about the construction worker is flawed also. The players all know the fundamentals of cs, but at a high level the fundamentals aren't enough and that's where the strats come in. It's just easier to remember the info for 2 teams rather than 4 and it's just down to the limited capacity of the human brain.
2019-03-23 01:34
#84
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Germany Roflcopter234 
the strats are the fundementals for them... they dont learn them for every tournament lmao
2019-03-23 01:36
#85
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Finland Jansk1h 
But they antistrat the other team. They study the opposing teams players and their tendencies. This is match specific information that isn't the fundamentals
2019-03-23 01:37
#88
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Germany Roflcopter234 
depends, as I said with my glaive karrigan story. I mean obviously 1 bo3 is "better" then 4 bo1, BUT if the format is really bad or players have problems with it yoh would have heard it. If they say its fine its fine
2019-03-23 01:39
#116
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Finland Jansk1h 
No it doesn't depend on anything, because you're just plain wrong. Just because 2 in-game leaders who are both the best of best can talk about specific rounds and strats doesn't mean the average pro remembers all of them, and even if they remember it's a completely different thing to remember the key take-aways of those rounds and apply them in a meaningful fashion in a heated competitive setting. Antistratting is a part of the game, but it's a completely different thing to antistrat 1 team vs 2 teams. Karrigan can remember the things against Astralis because he specifically prepped against them because they were Fazes number 1 rival at the time. Of course you're gonna remember that shit a week from now on. Do you really think he would've done the same thing to 4 different teams and still dedicate as much time and remember things as clearly? Of course not. It's just simple mathematics really.
2019-03-23 02:12
#87
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Denmark ennec2107 
Blast only made this format to benefit the players. RFRSH also took feedback from alot of teams in order to come up with this format. So i think its made specifically for those competing.
2019-03-23 01:38
#89
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Finland Jansk1h 
DOUBT
2019-03-23 01:40
#95
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Denmark ennec2107 
???? they literally said how they gathered information from the teams on how they'd like a tournament to be..
2019-03-23 01:44
#101
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Finland Jansk1h 
That's bullshit lmao :D No team would ever suggest a 1v1 aim duel in case of tie breakers for example. But just keep drinking the REFRESH kool-aid
2019-03-23 01:47
#105
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Denmark ennec2107 
Whats wrong with 1v1 aim duel - i think that pros like to play games that aren't of the "usual kind".
2019-03-23 01:50
#108
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Finland Jansk1h 
Because that's not counter strike. Might aswell play quake at that point
2019-03-23 01:52
#126
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United Kingdom Johal 
4 in 1 day? day one is over and theres only been 2 games for each team
2019-03-23 02:57
I meant the 2nd day: 3bo1s+1bo3
2019-03-23 11:33
#134
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United Kingdom Johal 
4 in one day isnt good for the players, it wares them out quickly
2019-03-23 13:59
#11
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World Notb8ing 
I think whole idea is that it is short event so people don't lose interest and crowd can see most of the event. I do quite like idea of short event like this. Not every event need to be 1 week or some shit.
2019-03-23 00:13
#57
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Finland Jansk1h 
I don't have a problem with the short event but I don't get the 3 streams. You could still have a 2 day event with a single stream if you spread it over 2 days and get rid of the boring show match that nobody wants to watch
2019-03-23 01:01
#128
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United Kingdom Johal 
nah, the showmatch is 20 minutes long, the showmatch doesnt slow it down at all, and alot of people enjoy the showmatch
2019-03-23 02:59
Yes.
2019-03-23 00:13
Well.. I dont think they are trying to make like a prestige tournament, but more friendly for new viewers.
2019-03-23 00:14
#63
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Finland Jansk1h 
How is flipflopping between 3 streams more newbie friendly? Like this is such a bullshit take that has no basis in anything :D
2019-03-23 01:07
Well for mainstream TV, they only show one game anyway
2019-03-23 01:12
#18
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Sweden fxzo 
I love this format, maybe made the same format but with more days xd. But I love blast
2019-03-23 00:14
#20
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Australia sad_faze_fan 
nice overlay tho
2019-03-23 00:15
+1 probably the best one
2019-03-23 00:18
#23
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Finland Vkims 
Format is fine
2019-03-23 00:16
#122
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Turkey AtheisTurk 
0/8
2019-03-23 02:51
#28
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
I think its a fresh style, it forces the teams to prepare in a different way and shows who can adapt more quickly than other.
2019-03-23 00:19
yeah, good point. actually though this format is literally made for upsets.
2019-03-23 00:23
#64
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Finland Jansk1h 
You only like it because it favors Astralis at the moment. If Liquid would've beat them in D2 you'd be crying how terrible this format is and how it causes bullshit upsets.
2019-03-23 01:09
#110
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Astralis has actually had problems several times in the Blast Pro tournament, for example, they lost at home ground last year in Copenhagen and earlier in 2017 the same place One of Astralis forces is there preparation, that dont suits well in this tournament form for them.
2019-03-23 01:56
#113
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Finland Jansk1h 
Yep and that's actually the core for my argument. This format isn't good for good teams.Now Astralis benefit because they only have to pracc for 1 map. Most of the time it's terrible for tthem. I like to watch the best counter strike and Blast aren't it.
2019-03-23 01:59
#120
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
But it dont favor Astralis if you look at earlier events. And if the "good" teams cant perform at map 1, are they then really a good team? A good team in my book can adapt to all king of tournament forms. Evovle or get lost in dust, that phrase suits earlier great team like MibR or Faze for that matter...
2019-03-23 02:42
#123
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Finland Jansk1h 
As I said, most of the time it's terrible for them. Can you read? Using your logic Astralis was a bad team in Eleague Boston then? Where they bad in Blast Copenhagen? How about ESL pro league season 7? Each one of those had a bad format that lead to upsets and in each one of them Astralis failed. In other tournaments they dominated and absolutely crushed the field. Your argument holds no water
2019-03-23 02:53
#137
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Keep crying mate, your not making any sense
2019-03-23 16:37
#139
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Finland Jansk1h 
How am I not making sense?
2019-03-23 16:40
#29
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Germany polycarp 
i dont like the format because i hate having games at the same time, especially if its three. i also dont think round robin bo1s is the best format for a true competition. but i understand why its structured like that because it gives you a fast paced tournament which is nice for "casual" viewers i guess.
2019-03-23 00:21
#32
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Nice format for the viewers. It's surely fast, but yet entertaining.
2019-03-23 00:21
#33
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
It's not a great format but since it's only a two day event I'm ok with it.
2019-03-23 00:21
blast is more of a fun tournament tbh
2019-03-23 00:24
#40
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Lithuania arres 
francesc0 = worst hltv user. Talking nonesense, nobody cares about him, making no reasonable arguments and all in all shit person
2019-03-23 00:25
you must have a sad life don't you?
2019-03-23 00:30
#119
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Lithuania arres 
Yeah... You got me ;( gonna go cry myself to sleep now
2019-03-23 02:24
#41
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Brazil davidzor 
It's more a showmatch than anything and it has already proven that its worth for the players and crowd.
2019-03-23 00:25
#44
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Germany zeolikk 
2019-03-23 00:30
yeah, I'm not talking about Faze this time though (as they just suck rn and wouldn't win anything)
2019-03-23 00:31
Blast is not a serious tier 1 tournament. It's just a chill showmatch, like cs_summit, to please the fans with more budget.
2019-03-23 00:36
+1111
2019-03-23 01:41
#69
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Russia fnyke 
Very nice format If you cant fully concentrate and show your bestest on one map, you dont belong to elite club
2019-03-23 01:12
yes
2019-03-23 01:27
the event is a coin toss
2019-03-23 01:29
#86
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United States xiquo 
but i like listening to 6 casters at once and going crosseyed trying to watch all streams at once!
2019-03-23 01:37
worst tournament format, blast is always shit
2019-03-23 01:40
#93
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Europe loonek4 
They also for some reason play all 3 matches at the same time
2019-03-23 01:43
Yeah the format is ass, 3 games played at the same time so you cant watch them all, Bo1's, its stupid.
2019-03-23 01:44
#132
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Russia fnyke 
Its shitty schedule, not format
2019-03-23 06:22
#102
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Finland kommunisti 
Absolute shit format. 3 bo1 games at the same time is total bullshit. The whole tournament seems completely meaningless.
2019-03-23 01:49
#112
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Bulgaria mango_csgo 
blast first day no overtime but 2nd day overtime allowed? i dont get why
2019-03-23 01:59
wait, what ? where did u get that info ? no way that's true
2019-03-23 14:03
Yes, it's awful, event with almost only bo1s shouldn't even be considered as a tier 1 event.
2019-03-23 02:58
It's good because it's the only way the other teams get a chance to beat Astralis LUL
2019-03-23 03:00
#136
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Sweden Lagge15 
Mibr fan spotted
2019-03-23 14:06
blast shitty match times they play in middle of the night so europeans cant watch live
2019-03-23 16:39
#141
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Brazil RIPInPiece 
Its a more compact and fast paced. I think its entertaining. Would not like manualmente other tournaments having this format though. But as longas as its Blaster Pro Series own thing It works
2019-03-26 20:39
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