do you see what I'm trying to tell? let the time pass and we'll see what's all about. good (top tier) team should be at every playoff (almost) and consistently be in top 4. your logic says - ence been to 1/4 of london major and to final of katowice major means that they're better than navi. but navi been to final of london major and to 1/2 of katowice major, 4 trophies in 2018, 5 2nd places, 4 top 4 finishes. hmm?